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Official UK upgrade is here.
Rom 3.14.13
Radio 4.16
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/xda/romupgrade/0,,170,00.html
very dissapointed really
No promised MMS, no signal improvements, and although I have yet to install, it looks like there is no fix to the following problems either
1 - SMS name fix, althought the patch on this site does that so feck em!
2 - Switching to phone app after sending sms AFTER a call has been made/received
3 - O2 CS in general, look at all the other international releases, yet O2 are still waaay behind.
4 - Action update is beyond a joke!
Kevin
What? 3.14.13? .... I am expecting a new rom with MMS fuction...
Is it just me or are people not bothering to read the O2 site properly.
They didn't actually promise the MMS update in March. This is due "later in in the year", along with modem capabilities and other stuff.
MMS or sms name fix is not built into any ROM available anywhere. I know somebody who works for O2 and has the next ROM/Radio being tested and apparently this doesn't have this either.
I agree, lets kick their ass on how long it's taken to release this, but lets get our facts straight first.
Lets be realistic. A lot of the stuff we want is not going to be available until PPC 2003, so we will all have to buy new devices by then.
absolute disgust !!!
this is a shambles I wonder how this company continues to exist ?
how can they promise items in an upgrade then basically take 4 months longer than anyone else to put out this "upgrade".
Seems to me like they have the attitude "we have your money so [email protected] you"
I WILL NEVER purchase another XDA from o2.
the idea was fantastic the way they treat people is an absolute disgrace.
could you imagine the rebellion there would be if you bought a telly that kept on losing the channels you had programed when it felt like it.
this was a total waste of money on my behalf.
I will go back to my ipaq and nokia combination.
does anyone want to buy a pretty ppc with a half functioning toy phone built in.
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THIS IS CRAP!
radio 4.16 still has the unable to re-aquire signal unless plugged into the cradle.
****e ****e ****e I gave O2 the benefit of the doubt for tha last 6 months with the promise that this radio version would fix this problem but it does not. I repeat NOT !
now my blood is boiling time to start a campaign.
The problem with not reaquiring the signal is SIM card related. Get a new SIM card and the problem will disappear.
Atleast this is what I found.
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
Now, now, settle down or there'll be tears before bedtime. It is ****e though isn't it? How many people do you think O2 have got working on software? Could it be as many as one? Do you think he(she) works full time, maybe he has a day job as a plumber, very busy time of year this! The nokia/ipaq option is looking good.
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amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
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Unbelievable you are so wrong
I have contacted o2 on many occasions and it is a "KNOWN BUG" so keep your simple minded comments to yourself.
i have tried 3 sim cards in the phone and all are the same.
I have 2 friends who suffer tha same complaint and there are also many people reporting the same problem on the official source o2 website.
it occurs if the phone loses signal for any extended period of time and if the battery is less than 3/4 charged.
when dropped back in cradle the extra power seems to kick it back up.
if signal is not lost ie local in good area then the phone functions normally
even with low power.
get your facts straight before making childish comments.
P.S. i only ever fall over when i trip over idiots like YOU !
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Now, now, settle down or there'll be tears before bedtime. It is ****e though isn't it? How many people do you think O2 have got working on software? Could it be as many as one? Do you think he(she) works full time, maybe he has a day job as a plumber, very busy time of year this! The nokia/ipaq option is looking good.
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I could not agree more with your comments.
Look i agree O2 has fail on many level but their failure in understanding what we need shouldnt reflect on us... cool down and lets focus on how to get o2 to make the necassary changes
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Peace...
Yeah!
Peace, brothers and sisters.
cool down and lets focus on how to get o2 to make the necassary changes
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I did. See this new topic...
Being in the UK never helps
Why is it that we in the UK have some of the best engineers in the world. But we can't get a simple thing like a bleedin phone to work!
People come from all over the world to get education in the UK. We are a great nation. So O2 UK get yer arse into gear FFS ! ! !
~MArtin
Hi,.
I'm the first Guest who replied about it being the SIM card. I had the problem and I found that my friends O2 SIM fixed the problem. I ordered a new SIM card and it did the trick. If anyone else has the problem and their friends "NEW" SIM card don't fix it, then I too would suggest that it is your XDA that is at fault.
O2 say that it is a known bug which is true - but a bug that can be fixed with a new SIM.
Trust me or not, I was only trying to fix your problem.
@amarko 5
i have problem that may be same as you reported. phone frozen and does not load the radio on a soft reset ? impossibe to use, turn off radio etc. didn't think the power was low to be exactly the same as your problem tried putting back in cradle and on usb hot sync cable - nothing was running radio 408 and 3.14.13. only possible was a full hard reset reset which cured and reloaded radio. have now upgraded to radio 416 as per new o2 update. is this ongoing problem from your knowledge?? will an upgrade to 3.15.xx eng (dutch o2 i think ??) fix it as mentioned in earlier posts??
The Problem still existed after the upgrade (well several re upgrades as well)
I appreciated Guests suggestion of sim card but I have tried 3 simms now 2 of which are just a few weeks old.
It didn't solve my issues.
At present O2 support seem to admit they knew about it and have agreed to take my XDA back to fix (I really hope they do)
so at present i am without my XDA as it's in the post back to O2.
I really didn't want to mess with any unofficial upgrades as you suggest as it may have invalidated warranty.
I may have been a bit slow in getting this sorted but at first O2 just denied a problem it is only recently they seem to acknowledge it.
BTW this BUG seems to affect a lot of people of you read the newsgroups on O2 source newsgroups.
I hope you have better luck with the upgrade if not then i suggest a visit to an O2 shop or call the support line to return it.
dont suffer like i did.
I also hope they compensate me for the useless functionallity of the sp called phone but i have my doubts maybe i will have to consult trading standards or watchdog :wink:
time will tell and i will keep you informed of progress.
Is there some kind of matrix available showing which country is at what ROM/Radio thing? All very confusing for amateurs like me.
Also, would it not be more productive for HTC to do the updating, make it a universal download, but with localised add-ons available
If I'm hopelessly out of my depth here, throw me a lifebelt...
soft reset
Hi,
My xda have the same problem but after a few
soft reset or adjusting the power settings
it now works fine.
same problem
amarko5 said:
Unbelieveable said:
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
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Unbelievable you are so wrong
I have contacted o2 on many occasions and it is a "KNOWN BUG" so keep your simple minded comments to yourself.
i have tried 3 sim cards in the phone and all are the same.
I have 2 friends who suffer tha same complaint and there are also many people reporting the same problem on the official source o2 website.
it occurs if the phone loses signal for any extended period of time and if the battery is less than 3/4 charged.
when dropped back in cradle the extra power seems to kick it back up.
if signal is not lost ie local in good area then the phone functions normally
even with low power.
get your facts straight before making childish comments.
P.S. i only ever fall over when i trip over idiots like YOU !
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I had exactly the same problem. They suggested that i get a new sim card because the sim is 2 years old but i couldnt be arsed with that. i phoned XDA fault centre and they said i could send it back for repair. 3 days later, i got it back, and it was working normally again, with a couple of hickups.
what is the cheapest one? in Dubai, it has been introduced for 1350 USD which is too much. anything closer to 1100 USD from any markets?
P.S. i saw the black one yesterday, for the first time, and the baby is gorgeous. the pictures you see and videos of the devicde dont do it justice IMO. it looks smaller than i thought and it looked sleek and beautiful!
thanks!
The device you saw in Dubai.....was the ROM arabic enbaled? Or it was only english?
Keyboard was also having arabic letters?
Thanks in advance.
it was english. the arabic version will not be introduced until the end of this month.
the upgrade will be offered for free. im not sure how they will approach the keyboard issue though!
me in Saudia....I purchased here for SR-5000 or USD-1300.
It is in english....I tried the arabitizer software (imignet) of universal and P3600 to alteast make it recongnize arabic and have a arabic virtual keyboard on screen....But unfortunately it didnot work....I think it is not compatible with the Advantage's ROM.
hmmm..
perhaps htc will release some updated roms soon. the guy told me it is going to be available on their website and on a CD!!
not sure but how often do you use the physical keyboard? isnt the virtual one more usable in general?
it looked sweet though. bu ttoo expensive. perhaps the price will drop a bit once the nokia E90 is released (end of this month from what i have been hearing).
for me its a choice of of the following:
-advantage
-E90
-E61i
E61i has a very favorable price tag which i may got for eventually. but the black advantage looked really sweet!
yes, virtual key board is awesome....and arabic on it would be just perfect....I do not carry keyboard...only advantage...
Well I also thought about E90...but I was unable to make comparison....because one is symbain and another runs windows-5...there are thousand things that we can run on WM OS....that we can not on symbian....E-90 will only play movies in MP-4 and rm version (this sucks).
It is having the same GPS chip and software that N95 is having and tell you what, GPS on N95 is hopeless and a major disappointment.
I heard the way we play on multiple programs on Advantge, it is not possible very effectiely on E-90 because of low speed process and RAM. There is no TV output as well....and Mirco soft office compability and syncronization with E-90 is horrible as well.
So for me....HTC Advantage was the only choice and I am happy with it I just miss arabic on it though
D_G said:
what is the cheapest one? in Dubai, it has been introduced for 1350 USD which is too much. anything closer to 1100 USD from any markets?
P.S. i saw the black one yesterday, for the first time, and the baby is gorgeous. the pictures you see and videos of the devicde dont do it justice IMO. it looks smaller than i thought and it looked sleek and beautiful!
thanks!
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i can get it for $1150
Wu,
but how can i then switch the physical keyboard to arabic?
also about the arabic software for virtual keyboard? any ideas?
will the warranty be valid if sent from overseas?
thanks.
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Wu,
but how can i then switch the physical keyboard to arabic?
also about the arabic software for virtual keyboard? any ideas?
will the warranty be valid if sent from overseas?
thanks.
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the warranty will be valid, but i have no ideas of the arabic issue.
I ordered three units from this site and they have great service.
It's $1190.00 here and in stock for same day shipping. You can ask the vendor about the keyboard and see what they say.
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=79&osCsid=2ac7c55759aaab4ce9ceea47d2701740
wu5262 said:
i can get it for $1150
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Is that for the Black version? And does that include shipping? Thanks
mad monkey boy gadgets has it for 1135 usd in stock and dave is a great guy to work with!!
djsell
[email protected] said:
mad monkey boy gadgets has it for 1135 usd in stock and dave is a great guy to work with!!
djsell
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Oh...that is what David sold it to you for?I received mine with next day shipping from David for a total of $1098.00 and purchased some other things.David sold me my JASJAR.If you want the cheapest,goto David.On another note.What ever price you find on the internet-DAVID WILL MATCH OR BEAT THAT PRICE!http://www.dweiniger.com/ check him out if you already havent!
ltxda said:
I ordered three units from this site and they have great service.
It's $1190.00 here and in stock for same day shipping. You can ask the vendor about the keyboard and see what they say.
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=79&osCsid=2ac7c55759aaab4ce9ceea47d2701740
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WoW, that's a very good price. Did you receive it already?
Yes I got all three units in already. That vendor is great. No complaints at all and explained everything when I had questions. I would recommend them to everyone.
i have not yet made the plunge for the advantage but have purchased phones and accessories from dave (mad monkey boys gadgets) with excellent service in the past!!
djsell
[email protected] said:
i have not yet made the plunge for the advantage but have purchased phones and accessories from dave (mad monkey boys gadgets) with excellent service in the past!!
djsell
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If you were to purchase one.I would say get it from David.As of right now this is the lowest price found :http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=147445
Total is :$1,050.00.David will match the price of the cheapest like i stated before.And if you need accessories for the X7500 ,if it is on mobile planet he will sell the merchandise to you cheaper(alot cheaper!!)Than what you find on their site.So make that plunge!!!
ltxda said:
Yes I got all three units in already. That vendor is great. No complaints at all and explained everything when I had questions. I would recommend them to everyone.
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I actually was going to purchase from them,because they state on their website that if you find merchandise cheaper somewhere else,they will match the price.The only thing is that i could not locate a phone number,address etc. anywhere on the website.Only an email address.When you are transferring that kind of money,you would like to speak to someone on the phone or have your nerves be at ease by knowing for a fact that it is not a scam.Same complications arose when the outbreak of the JASJAR arose.There were several people making ficticious websites scamming people.They also were price gouging people(charging 70.00 for shipping).So for me i like to speak to someone on the phone as well as be able to know that they are well established.No offense my friend.
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I actually was going to purchase from them,because they state on their website that if you find merchandise cheaper somewhere else,they will match the price.The only thing is that i could not locate a phone number,address etc. anywhere on the website.Only an email address.When you are transferring that kind of money,you would like to speak to someone on the phone or have your nerves be at ease by knowing for a fact that it is not a scam.Same complications arose when the outbreak of the JASJAR arose.There were several people making ficticious websites scamming people.They also were price gouging people(charging 70.00 for shipping).So for me i like to speak to someone on the phone as well as be able to know that they are well established.No offense my friend.
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Agreed. That's why I emailed them asking for the number and got a prompt reply with it. I wouldnt have ordered if I didn't have a number. I think the guys name Stan. Hope this helps.
even though it's still expensive
do u think The price will drop down a bit?
I got my JasJar when it was released about 1150$ and to be honest I don't want to pay this price on a Pocket PC again
Yes i'm giving away my old Universal.
i'll even help with shipping
i've upgraded to the TOUCH HD, and want to leave my Uni to someone that could benefit.
the way i figure it, i've loved it since i had 3 years ago and if it wasn't for the hard work of the cookers who cracked the updates and even WinMo6, i would have been a lot less happy.
they're very responsible for a lot of the productivity and fun i've had along the way, which i've payed forward. now this is a little direct payback .
The forum members have been great support too, and this community has been a constant source that fuels the evolution of our Uni's.
Included is :
1) HTC Universal G3 (very good condition)
2) 2gb SD card
3) USB to Mini-USB (for data and charging)
4) Tomal's 8.2 ROM (excellent)
5) 2 stylus' (replacement for the original i wore out!)
6) replacement battery (bought 2008, 1600MaH. original wore out)
*pics upon request*
I'd like it to go to one of the cookers that may need an new/extra Uni for testing, so that it can help with their efforts in supporting the rest of the Uni lovers here.
if there are no takers from any of the cookers, i will happily leave it to anyone else that wants it
now, how do you get it? simple.
for ONE WEEK i invite any cookers to PM me or post here their interest here in a free Uni.
if no cookers want it, then i'll accept interest from anyone else that cares to have ask for it.
p.s.
my partner upgraded to a Samsung Omnia, if anyone wants a free Nokia 7710 give me a prod
I'll take both, cover shipping, and give you something for your troubles if you u have them.
-Mc
I am very interested!
Hope you consider this request
%Thanks in advance
some people already PM'ing and posting here.
i'll keep the option open for a single week to let more prospective people get a chance as i want the devices to go to the best person for the greater good.
all people responding are automatically "on the list" to be chosen.
happy bidding (wait, wrong website)
greeting from hong kong
looking for replacement for my uni. my uni RIP need to rewrite boot loader
first i have to say that you must be the kindest soul in the human race to want to give your handsets FOR FREE and not sell them on ebay..
and second becouse i loved it,becouse i admired it and becouse i cant live without a touch screen and i want it like mad.. PLEASE SEND ME THE NOKIA
cheers.
ps
i live in london
well i believe the small amount of money i could sell it for on Ebay (a few hundred dollars AU) and how i could invest that much money, compared to some that can actually use a free device for the greater good is no comparison for me.
there's an Ebay sale HERE where the person has a great offer for a complete Uni with accessories, for a reasonable price.
seriously the value of a few hundred bucks means little to me compared to the value of the device in the best hands.
think of it like:
*giving $300 to a starving stranded man on an island.....or giving him a $50 picnic hamper.
*or, a wealthy person giving $10 to someone in need, compared to a poor person giving $10 to someone even more in need.
there are many energy forms of value, depends who you're relating to and how. that much money in my life isn't worth much, those devices in other lives could mean a lot.
So there's no loss for me, i've already gained enormously from the device and i already have a replacement. i have an efficient upgrade.
someone can benefit a free device/s and gain enormously. an efficient upgrade too.
just sharing the energy
singer12 said:
first i have to say that you must be the kindest soul in the human race to want to give your handsets FOR FREE and not sell them on ebay..
and second becouse i loved it,becouse i admired it and becouse i cant live without a touch screen and i want it like mad.. PLEASE SEND ME THE NOKIA
cheers.
ps
i live in london
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well consider yourself on the list simply by your interest
i'm glad there are people wanting the Nokia, i thought it would be difficult to find interest as it is a phone that not many people liked when it came out.
i'm happy these devices will goto good homes
Sent you a message, No matter who you pick you're doing something that deserves respect, so you have mine.
I resent just now, let me know if you received it properly.
User665 said:
Sent you a message, No matter who you pick you're doing something that deserves respect, so you have mine.
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hmm....haven't received any PM, but no matter as your interest here is noted. just let me know which device/s your were interested in
try PM again, if no success just post here.
Hello, that's a very generous thing from you, there should be more people like you out there
I would like to have your UNI, but reading the forums here I saw theseas's posts about being scammed by shakal007, so it seems he lost his UNI. I don't know, but maybe he could get a replacement by you If he wanted, of course....
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Hello, that's a very generous thing from you, there should be more people like you out there
I would like to have your UNI, but reading the forums here I saw theseas's posts about being scammed by shakal007, so it seems he lost his UNI. I don't know, but maybe he could get a replacement by you If he wanted, of course....
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I think this is a very good idea as well, it must be bad to loose something this way in good faith!
regards
Jay
User665 said:
Sent you a message, No matter who you pick you're doing something that deserves respect, so you have mine.
I resent just now, let me know if you received it properly.
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received and replied
Wow! I agree with the person that said you have to be the kindest soul. You're a shining example of niceness and I hope it rubs off on all of us. Thanks for your shining presence.
Is it G4 or G3?
Cotulla said:
Is it G4 or G3?
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hmm... been a while since i knew, remind me what the easiest way to check is?
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hmm... been a while since i knew, remind me what the easiest way to check is?
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Put it in bootloader mode. You can see small note at the bottom of the screen, if it starts from 1, then its G3. If it starts from 2, then its G4.
satanisme said:
Put it in bootloader mode. You can see small note at the bottom of the screen, if it starts from 1, then its G3. If it starts from 2, then its G4.
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ah, yes that rings a bell
The Uni a G3.
info added to main post.
Hi
Any news on the winner?
Please let me be me to win the nokia
I just recently purchased an x1i for what I thought was a bargain price. At half the retail, i got the phone in perfect condition and a charger. i didn't mind back then and have been using the phone on a daily basis and it works great. I never questioned why I just got the phone, seeing how adding a box and manual can't be that hard. I wanted to update my ROM to R2A today and when I took the battery out I noticed for the first time: "Prototype build:AP1" and underneath it "Prototype not for sale". So here's my question, is this a prototype and is it in anyway inferior to a retail model?
Thats why it was so cheap
Mine not say prototype....
But you should not care about that if it works well...And have no cracks
prototypes tend to have downgraded hardware than the actual retail
do you have pics of it? please show them! i'm curious to know if yours has a button on the bottom left corner.. kinda like the camera button but instead it's on the left side. iirc the prototype models had that button and one of the reviewers said it was supposed to be made for switching between landscape/portrait.
This is not supposed to be sold! I work there at Sony Ericsson, last time somebody sold a prototype version of a phone he got fired. This guy is either stupid or careless
Depends how old the prototype is then the hardware might be inferior (less ram). One advantage you have is that your phone is most likely "Security Unlocked"
Have a look at the back, what week was it produced on?
As for the person that sold it, they shouldn't have. It's not meant for resale!
I can confirm that anything above 08W25 is good
thanks
thanks for tbe info. mine says 08W26. as for the button to switch between portrait and landscape, it doesn't exist on my x1. The phone is security unlocked. I'll post some pictures up soon.
I bought a proto p990i, didnt know it was a proto. I kept it for spare parts since the firmware couldnt be updated. When I used any function besides calling someone it would lock up on me
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Quite the opposite: SE prototypes ALWAYS have the final HW inside, it's usually the initial sw that's pre-RC - which does not effect him as his most likely been upgraded to MR1 at least...
rc3ilynt said:
I just recently purchased an x1i for what I thought was a bargain price. At half the retail, i got the phone in perfect condition and a charger. i didn't mind back then and have been using the phone on a daily basis and it works great. I never questioned why I just got the phone, seeing how adding a box and manual can't be that hard. I wanted to update my ROM to R2A today and when I took the battery out I noticed for the first time: "Prototype build:AP1" and underneath it "Prototype not for sale". So here's my question, is this a prototype and is it in anyway inferior to a retail model?
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Yes, it is a final prototype for operators to test. This means that it is probably someone outside of SE that has sold it.
It is not inferior in any way, but you can probably not upgrade firmware via SE tools. And you can forget getting help at a SE service location if needed. Some operators also disables the prototype IMEI number in their net after some time, which will make it useless as a phone.
Best thing to do: Turn it in to the nearest SE Service center with details of who sold it. You might be rewarded with a retail X1.
AviatorEkis said:
Yes, it is a final prototype for operators to test. This means that it is probably someone outside of SE that has sold it.
It is not inferior in any way, but you can probably not upgrade firmware via SE tools.
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False. Login to to Emma and take a look - if you have a real proto with operator test release sw then you can upgrade it, provided you have access to Emma (you're an authorized SE service center, a SE employee or anyone with Emma login.)
And you can forget getting help at a SE service location if needed.
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False again. They will help you but it won't be free as it's not covoered by warranty - but again, any used phone you buy won't have warranty or max. one year - if it was retail - anyway.
Some operators also disables the prototype IMEI number in their net after some time, which will make it useless as a phone.
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I assume you have link or some other evidence, right?
Because if you don't have I have to call it on its name: baseless rumor, pure FUD.
Best thing to do: Turn it in to the nearest SE Service center with details of who sold it. You might be rewarded with a retail X1.
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What an utter nonsense - why would ANYONE give him this entirely malicious advice to GIVE HIS PHONE AWAY, hoping that - even bigger nonsense! - someone willl GIVE HIM A NEW PHONE FOR FREE!!!
The only thing I can't decide is that whether you're truly believe in this crap or you're just another @ss retailer trying to keep up high prices of his stuff...
goldenchild7801 said:
I bought a proto p990i, didnt know it was a proto. I kept it for spare parts since the firmware couldnt be updated. When I used any function besides calling someone it would lock up on me
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It can be updated but not by you - bring it to any authorized SE retailer and ask him to log in to Emma and update it - they will probably charge you for it but it's worth the price, trust me.
szlevi said:
False. Login to to Emma and take a look - if you have a real proto with operator test release sw then you can upgrade it, provided you have access to Emma (you're an authorized SE service center, a SE employee or anyone with Emma login.)
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Emma ? How archaic
Of course you can fla**** with internal SE tools, but not via Update Service. And sure you can find a service center that does not bother thats it is an AP. But not an SE one.
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False again. They will help you but it won't be free as it's not covoered by warranty - but again, any used phone you buy won't have warranty or max. one year - if it was retail - anyway.
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Again, you can find service centers that does not bother since they will get cash for the job. But not on a SE Service Center.
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I assume you have link or some other evidence, right?
Because if you don't have I have to call it on its name: baseless rumor, pure FUD.
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A link ? Some operators do, others don't. Believe it or not.
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What an utter nonsense - why would ANYONE give him this entirely malicious advice to GIVE HIS PHONE AWAY, hoping that - even bigger nonsense! - someone willl GIVE HIM A NEW PHONE FOR FREE!!!
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Not someone, SE. You know the company that pays rewards for getting help tracking down users and sellers of stolen protos.
szlevi said:
The only thing I can't decide is that whether you're truly believe in this crap or you're just another @ss retailer trying to keep up high prices of his stuff...
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Well I don't know anything about you, but if I discover that somthing I bought was stolen goods i'd sure as hell would contact the owner.
szlevi said:
It can be updated but not by you - bring it to any authorized SE retailer and ask him to log in to Emma and update it - they will probably charge you for it but it's worth the price, trust me.
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I got rid of the p990i awhile ago, Im sporting an X1 now
rc3ilynt said:
thanks for tbe info. mine says 08W26. as for the button to switch between portrait and landscape, it doesn't exist on my x1. The phone is security unlocked. I'll post some pictures up soon.
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My X1i is also prototype 08W25, and it doesn't have another button, also all hardware is the same as in final device. You can update rom to any in this forum without any problems, of course it also mean you can update to official R2A rom. I had about 5 X1i different prototypes, older and newer (with extra button and without, full ram 288mb and half 128mb and all can be updated to any newest rom available. But for this which have only 128mb ram I recommend R1A rom which have less ram requaiment (ie there is some problems with running some apps on R2A roms after few hours of use on 128mb ram device becouse much ram is missing then).
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Oh, and prototype devices have much better cover/housing, I have mine more then 5 months (and it wasnt new when I bought it) and it still don't have any crack on the cover!
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Emma ? How archaic
Of course you can fla**** with internal SE tools, but not via Update Service.
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It is not *internal* at all, ask first if you have no clue - any service center with SE connections has - or can have - a login.
And sure you can find a service center that does not bother thats it is an AP. But not an SE one.
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As I said, false. Once again: why don't you ask first instead of spreading stupid rumors?
Again, you can find service centers that does not bother since they will get cash for the job. But not on a SE Service Center.
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Do you actually know WTF are you talking about? SE service centers are regualr private, authorized 3rd party shops - they are the one who have logins to EMMA.
Stop talking bull when you obviously don't know much about them, please.
A link ? Some operators do, others don't. Believe it or not.
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Thanks for confirming it's obviously a stupid rumor, nothing else.
Not someone, SE.
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Never heard of anything like this - any link?
Let me guess you don't have any...
You know the company that pays rewards for getting help tracking down users and sellers of stolen protos.
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You are truly clueless: these are most likely not stolen but sales samples, pal. Another newsflash: tracking users are borderline illegal in most countries (unless you have a criminal case and police/court/law is involved.)
Well I don't know anything about you, but if I discover that somthing I bought was stolen goods i'd sure as hell would contact the owner.
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Again: why don't you ask before you post silly assumptions as facts?
FYI: almost all protos are given away and their owners are free to sell it later. (it isn't nice to sell it when it's still new, khm. )
Once retail products are out en masse most protos end up either collect dust on a shelf or end up on eBay.
I'm sure few end up being stolen but they are just like any other phone - nobody traces them down at all unless someone requests it.
As mentioned I am trying to uck up the courage to go for the hd2!
My worries: (and I hoped you experts will be able to help me out!!)
1) large thread on vodaphone website suggesting (from what I can make out!) the hd2 has been abandoned (some suggest irreperable h/ware issues?)
the reviews I hve read rate this phone so highly so it's a shame if this is the case!
2) pink tinge on camera - is this hard or firmware and is the issue fixed?
3) played with a demo unit in the o2 store and the browser pinching doesn't work! Is this likely down to a "demo unit" thing?
4) how does the experience compare to any previous xda users? Had 3 xdas in the past including an orbit and ended up ditching them because of poor browser and crap data rates!
5) any recommendation on the difference between networks welcomed in terms of data as on an unlimited iPhone tariff which ends now so was using my collateral with that to source the phone!
Kind thanks for your thoughts, advice and recommendation!!!
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1) large thread on vodaphone website suggesting (from what I can make out!) the hd2 has been abandoned (some suggest irreperable h/ware issues?)
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I don't think even Vodafone could answer this question for you! I wouldn't want to try and get one from them though, as there are so many on back-order now that you could be waiting a looooooooooooong time!
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2) pink tinge on camera - is this hard or firmware and is the issue fixed?
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It varies from phone to phone, as to how serious this actually is. The camera fix has definitely improved things though, and a couple of setting changes make it pretty much disappear. Personally, it's never been bad enough for me to see it as an issue, and since the fix I really couldn't care less if it is there or not, as pics are looking a LOT better!
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3) played with a demo unit in the o2 store and the browser pinching doesn't work! Is this likely down to a "demo unit" thing?
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Pinching works on Opera, but not on IE. There is a system style pinch-to-zoom that you can enable on most apps, but it's not the same and, in my opinion, a bit of a blag. When it is real, it looks great. Opera has become my favourite mobile browser since getting this phone.
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4) how does the experience compare to any previous xda users? Had 3 xdas in the past including an orbit and ended up ditching them because of poor browser and crap data rates!
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Data rates, well that's down to your provider isn't it. As far as browsers go, the massive screen, pinching to zoom, and the overall speed of Opera make browsing on this phone a real joy. I started my xda journer with a Touch Diamond, moved to a HD, and then on to the HD2, and it's just got better and better every time!
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5) any recommendation on the difference between networks welcomed in terms of data as on an unlimited iPhone tariff which ends now so was using my collateral with that to source the phone!
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I'm afraid that's where I bottom out. I've gone for a basic tarrif on a monthly rolling contract so that I'm not tied to any one provider. I currently use O2 and find them cheap and have had no problems with them (except 1 day where I couldn't get HSPA at work). I get HSPA coverage everywhere I normally go, and that's the most important thing for me. Basically, shop round and see what suits you. I don't think anyone can really answer this question - just advise you.
All-in-all GET IT!!! Hahaha. Like I explained, my xda journey has been a good one, where each phone blew the last phone away. This is the biggest leap I've had so far, in terms of performance and just generally being happy and impressed with the phone.
Yeah, there are some issues, mainly due to the fact that the phone is so new, but I bet 90% of people on here would rather have a phone with some bugs now, than wait till March next year before they get it.
Good luck on finding a good deal. Hope you get it sorted mate
Hello and Welcome,
I know how you feel about plucking up the courage to take the plunge. The press reviews are very positive; however users on here tell a different story which is a mixed bag.
If you are happy to take the time to tweak the device to get around some of the known problems then that's a positive. If you don' feel able to do so then you might want to hold fire until HTC have all the issues ironed out.
I suggest you do the following:
- start by reading this thread end to end...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
- when done take a look at the first few pages of each sub forum of the LEO forum to get a summary of where people are at with this device
- then search for 2 threads which are both polls: one is on the sms problem and the other is on (I think) peoples overall views of the HD2.These should help give you a sense of balance and perspective.
Once you have done all this you should be able to judge for yourself whether you want to take the plunge or not.
By the way, tip on asking for help on here is to search first then, if you can't find what you are looking for come back, tell us where you have searched and we will help you out. I don't have a problem answering questions but you might get slaughtered/flamed by others who are not so patient.
Come back if you need more info.
All the best.
WB
I agree with the other comments. If you want the best phone out right now this is it despite some problems.
I would add that GPS is awsome I get signals inside buildings now and the large screen is great. To get it running the way I want I had to load the unoficial 1.61 TUR-WWE Rom as I had problem with bluetooth.
Its slightly too big for my tastes having jumped direct from a diamond but this is a personal preference. Also the glass screen 'seems' fragile Ie. Im always carefull not to drop it, I used to throw my diamond about everywhere.
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As mentioned I am trying to uck up the courage to go for the hd2!
My worries: (and I hoped you experts will be able to help me out!!)
1) large thread on vodaphone website suggesting (from what I can make out!) the hd2 has been abandoned (some suggest irreperable h/ware issues?)
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Well, it all seems to be down to not being able to get stock? Well, the real deal IMHO is that they are about to launch another certain phone which is rather good at most of the things the Touch HD2 is good at. I reckon this is the real reason, they don't want to water down their iPhone launch.
There is PLENTY of Sim Free stock around, cheapest I found 2 days ago was Insight UK, £482 and £17 cashback if you go via Quidco.
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2) pink tinge on camera - is this hard or firmware and is the issue fixed?
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Not had a chance to play yet, only had it a full day so far. Other reading I have done suggests its pretty much fixed. Lets face it, you don't get a WM device for great photos, but this seems to be best one so far.
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3) played with a demo unit in the o2 store and the browser pinching doesn't work! Is this likely down to a "demo unit" thing?
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Almost certainly using IE and not Opera?
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4) how does the experience compare to any previous xda users? Had 3 xdas in the past including an orbit and ended up ditching them because of poor browser and crap data rates!
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As other people say, data rates down to your Telco, but I will say in early testing here, the wi-fi pick up is easily the best WM device I have ever used, it finds it everytime you turn back on, not always the case with WM, and something the iPhone has always done superbly.
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5) any recommendation on the difference between networks welcomed in terms of data as on an unlimited iPhone tariff which ends now so was using my collateral with that to source the phone!
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Well I am gonna see how long I can use it WITH my iPhone SIM before getting a warning from O2
But, IF you do not make many calls and texts (like me), it can be worth running devices like this with a SIM from a Mobile Broadband dongle.
I have a 3UK one which has 5GB of data for £7.50 a month, calls and texts are 20p I think but I use so few it dows not matter.
I also use a Vodafone PAYG one which you just top up £15 and it lasts ages, not so sure about phone calls though.
Over on my blog at http://www.kevwright.com I have been trying to dump an iPhone 3GS for a while now, and will shortly start adding entries from the HD2 vs the iPhone to go along with the current ones comparing S60 phones with the iPhone. May be of interest.
Kev
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Wow, i can't thank you all for your thoughts, tips and advice
I remember why i joined here five years ago.
Sorry if it seemed i posted questions when info is still readily available, but i have scoured scores of pages on o2 and vodaphone and felt i would get a more definitive and exact answer here as it was blowing my brain!
Going to O2 tomorrow as they are in stock got a choice of free at £45 or £93 phone on £35! Quite excited, need to buy lots of 16gb memory cards now!