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Are you guys going to upgrade (soon) to the Touch Diamond?

Not sure if this has been asked before on this forum, so I'll ask now..
The Touch Diamond has been around for a couple of months now, and will be coming to all countries very soon. Do you guys think it's worth it to make the upgrade from Elf/Elfin to the Diamond?
I guess it all depends on what your needs are. I mean I don't watch videos on it, and I mainly use it for PIMs, documents and GPS.
However, the Diamond has the following features which look very enticing:
- Higher res
- Better procesor
- Better camera
- Integrated GPS (no more Bluetooth receivers!)
- Almost same height but thinner than Elf
PIMs/Camera/GPS/MP3 in one unit is pretty amazing.
I'm thinking of getting a used Elfin (a second one) just for ROM cooking purposes, but now I think I could save that couple hundred dollars on a future Diamond (along with selling my current Elfin to help pay for it).

I might be. It's a matter of funds and what kind of limitations Rogers puts on getting one. I really don't see a need to upgrade to better phone when I have had to nerf some of the features on my Elfin because Rogers wants my first born child as payment to use them.

sprecker said:
I might be. It's a matter of funds and what kind of limitations Rogers puts on getting one. I really don't see a need to upgrade to better phone when I have had to nerf some of the features on my Elfin because Rogers wants my first born child as payment to use them.
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Hmm. Do you think Rogers will get the Touch Diamond? No word yet as far as I can tell. Rogers already has the new iPhone; Bell has the Samsung Instinct, and Telus is coming out with the Touch Diamond.

The 2.8'' screen sounds too small for 640x480 res. Also 65k color is crappy comparing to iPhone.
I think I'll wait for the next model.

DairyKnight said:
The 2.8'' screen sounds too small for 640x480 res. Also 65k color is crappy comparing to iPhone.
I think I'll wait for the next model.
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Why should it always come down to comparing to the iPhone? It's a great Windows Mobile phone in its own right. And the iPhone is only 480x320 with a bigger screen.

I'll buy the first NAM 3G device that is as small as the Touch. I've been waiting patiently for a very long time. To answer your question, absofrigginlutely.

The only thing that worries me about the Touch Diamond in the inavailability of a microSD slot and battery life. That's why I have a penchant for the iPhone 3G at the moment. Is the battery life so terrible?

not convinced by TD, will wait for X1 and omnia ..

MaroO said:
The only thing that worries me about the Touch Diamond in the inavailability of a microSD slot and battery life. That's why I have a penchant for the iPhone 3G at the moment. Is the battery life so terrible?
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No MicroSD? Ouch, that sucks, how can we do a backup of our files? I guess the memory is divided into 2 places for storage then.

Yes, it's second 4 GB storage visible as Internal Memory.

Well then, it's really not that bad then

Waiting for PRO
I just pre-ordered the Touch Pro. I need the microSD.

indiana99 said:
I just pre-ordered the Touch Pro. I need the microSD.
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Whoa, that keyboard really adds a lot of thickness.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-pro-aka-raphael-hands-on-video-and-images-2712290.php

Best HTC phone of 2008???
I currently have the Touch and recently upgraded the ROM...very nice with GPS.
I will definitely upgrade if Sprint will let me keep my retention plan and not switch to the everything plan.
This website says the Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com
Anyone disagree? I think I agree...it should be an awesome phone.

onitalwin said:
This website says the Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: [B]http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com[/B]
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Well this website is going to be biased for obvious reasons

onitalwin said:
I currently have the Touch and recently upgraded the ROM...very nice with GPS.
I will definitely upgrade if Sprint will let me keep my retention plan and not switch to the everything plan.
This website says the Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com
Anyone disagree? I think I agree...it should be an awesome phone.
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Yeah, the G-sensor is amazing... have you seen Teeter? Link to video: http://www.vimeo.com/996448
If you have incoming call and you'll turn Diamond screen to bottom it will stop ringing, but won't discard call... great

Touch Diamond best phone of the year
This site that says the HTC Touch Diamond will be the best phone of 2008: http://www.mytouch-diamond-phone.com
Does anyone agree or disagree??? I currently have the HTC Touch...great phone. Also does anyone know if Sprint will force me to upgrade to their everything plan or can I keep my current retention plan when I upgrade to the Touch Diamond? Thanks.

I just upgraded from an Atom to an Elf on Monday, so I don't think I'll be moving up to the Touch Diamond any time soon ;-). Personally, these top flight units cost waaay to much money for me to consider being an early adopter. However, if it came down to it and I had to upgrade, I would personally go for the Touch Pro over the Diamond because of the keyboard and microSD slot. The extra thickness isn't that great but I think the keyboard would outweigh that con.

i have a tytn II and are going to swap as soon as the touch pro comes out, the dimond to me seams no better than mine at the moment, and i want a qwerty keyboard like the tytnII

Not yet
DairyKnight said:
The 2.8'' screen sounds too small for 640x480 res. Also 65k color ...
I think I'll wait for the next model.
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The only thing that worries me about the Touch Diamond in the inavailability of a microSD slot and battery life
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I will wait too... i am quiet happy with my 1$ elf ;-)

HTC Blackstone / Touch HD

Hello partyppl.
Quick specs are
quote modaco post:
"Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Qualcomm 7201A processor @ 528MHz
512MB ROM / 256MB RAM (+32MB on processor)
WVGA
115mm x 62.8mm x 12mm
'In stores for Santa'
GPS / HSDPA etc. etc.
5 Megapixel camera (no flash)"
Enjoy the pictures.

what about the hardware and os ? will it be compatible with wm7 ?
it looks awsome anyway

that what i think it is?
dream?

*wrong post

That's a nice looking phone. HTC sure has many new and interesting models coming

I love this phone

looks GREAT to me

Finaly, Htc made their own big touch-screen, sure beats iPhone and Xperia (3.5 and 3.0):333
Tech and Os specs would be great !

Taken off of Engadget

I am using Hermes (AT&T). Was very tempted to get Kaiser. And I've been saving money for Touch Pro.... I really hope they will make Touch HD Pro with a slide-out keyboard and normal audio jack (not a mini-USB).
P.S. iPhone sucks!

looks good, kind of like the omnia. and actually, the iphone doesn't suck.

nemets said:
I am using Hermes (AT&T). Was very tempted to get Kaiser. And I've been saving money for Touch Pro.... I really hope they will make Touch HD Pro with a slide-out keyboard and normal audio jack (not a mini-USB).
P.S. iPhone sucks!
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i don't think that it has an keyboard, its too small

If they ever release a CDMA version i'm getting one. If it has a capacitive touchscreen, i'll be in heaven.

I so want that, I posted earlier and now when I`ve seen specs etc. it looks promising.
I might upgrade my Kaiser to that when time comes

As nice as the phone looks to be, I can't help but say I'm disappointed in HTC. I feel they are oversaturating the market with products and not allowing any one phone to have some sort of longevitiy. This phone makes the Diamond the new Touch Cruise and the Touch Cruise the new Touch. Over time people will realize that if you wait a few months something much better is going to come out from HTC, so you may as well wait for it.
This is really shocking to see so soon after the Diamond, which really hasn't even had a chance to peak in the market if you ask me. Any potential sale they were going to have with the Diamond is probably gone now. HTC needs to consolidate their offerings to put out better spec'd equipment and to give people their money's worth.
But still, nice phone.

Here is what I posted on the other thread with some pictures I am using from the original post over at the other forum...
Here are some more pictures....taken from here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/272214/introducing-the-htc-touch-hd/

halorin said:
As nice as the phone looks to be, I can't help but say I'm disappointed in HTC. I feel they are oversaturating the market with products and not allowing any one phone to have some sort of longevitiy. This phone makes the Diamond the new Touch Cruise and the Touch Cruise the new Touch. Over time people will realize that if you wait a few months something much better is going to come out from HTC, so you may as well wait for it.
This is really shocking to see so soon after the Diamond, which really hasn't even had a chance to peak in the market if you ask me. Any potential sale they were going to have with the Diamond is probably gone now. HTC needs to consolidate their offerings to put out better spec'd equipment and to give people their money's worth.
But still, nice phone.
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I kinda feel the same way. I was just getting ready to upgrade my Sprint Touch for the soon to be released Touch Diamond, but then I see this which is just about perfect for my needs.
I'll probably still get the Touch Diamond for now and plan to upgrade next in 2009 to a WM7 device, well unless this gets a capacitive touchscreen then it'll have to be mine.

EliteXen said:
I kinda feel the same way. I was just getting ready to upgrade my Sprint Touch for the soon to be released Touch Diamond, but then I see this which is just about perfect for my needs.
I'll probably still get the Touch Diamond for now and plan to upgrade next in 2009 to a WM7 device, well unless this gets a capacitive touchscreen then it'll have to be mine.
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Notice how the baby does not have a joystick?
How are you going to Scroll Zoom without that Capacitive JoyPad?
Not to start the Rumour Mill or anything but..... Maybe you should be a nice boy so Santa takes good care of you
Just let me dream a bit here.

agree, cannot imagine how to use windows mobile without d-pad? is it a fault?

Really a nice model!
Only problem I see, there is no keyboard... but still is a good candidate
Screen is 3.?" right?

no more athena from htc?

while i was browsing www.htc.com i noticed that there's no more athenas there, even at http://www.htc.com/www/product_all.aspx
what do you think guys/gals?

Well, it is still in the support pages, so I guess it is discontinued.
http://www.htc.com/www/FAQ_Detail.aspx?act=faq&p_id=87&cat=268
For what its worth - as much as I like mine, it just didn't find its place. It was too "weak" to be a full featured UMPC, and way to big to be a portable smartphone. The funny thing is, I have never used mine on a cellular network (got it from CompUSA's firesale), and as a PDA it does well... but how many people want to buy a $600 pda....

Sad to see it go w/o a viable replacement. Love mine!

I predicted this a long time ago because of very low sales of the X7510. It does not surprise me anymore. I just hope Samsung or Sony make more Windows Mobile phones, because I am staying away from HTC after my X7510.

I just hope Samsung or Sony make more Windows Mobile phones, because I am staying away from HTC
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check the specs of the Omnia II, will ever Samsung make something like that with Athena size screen an ill be there in a wisp, even as it is the screen is not that small.
Also a launch so early after Omnia I gives me the impression that Samsung launched the firs as a test product, whatever the case i believe that Omnia II is only available in Japan ATM.

omnia2?
hey pbl, where did you get the info about "samsung omnia ii"? any specs online?
i was planning to buy my wifey an omnia.
ciao!

PBL1 said:
check the specs of the Omnia II, will ever Samsung make something like that with Athena size screen an ill be there in a wisp, even as it is the screen is not that small.
Also a launch so early after Omnia I gives me the impression that Samsung launched the firs as a test product, whatever the case i believe that Omnia II is only available in Japan ATM.
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I would have bought the Omnia if it wasn't for the screen resolution and lack of keyboard, otherwise the specs are excellent. I sure hope they follow-up with a clamshell device.

hey pbl, where did you get the info about "samsung omnia ii"? any specs online?
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there you got
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/03/samsungs-t-omnia-all-that-and-double-the-i900-omnis-resolutio/
I would have bought the Omnia if it wasn't for the screen resolution
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Check the link
drool

The HTC Europe page still displays the HTC Advantage.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product_all.aspx
I think it is Bye Bye for folks in North America.
I would expect the next version of Athena to come off the Qualcomm Snapdragon platform.
Snapdragon Platform is the ideal one to build the next Advantage.
There are already 30 devices under development to support this platform. Hopefully we get a new announcement on this by 1st half of next year.
--Srini

I would expect the next version of Athena to come off the Qualcomm Snapdragon platform.
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Great,
Adobe is releasing Flash for mobile devices any day now
we have internet explorer 6 but better still mozilla is unleashing a very promising fox into the wild ( alfa stage as we speak)
WM7 under development and android starting to walk
OLED screens starting to appear
haptics or multi touch or whatever you want to call it is becoming the standard touch interface
solid state drivers are getting cheapper al the time and faster
mram is under development
dubya is out of the picture
the future looks sunnier

PBL1 said:
Great,
Adobe is releasing Flash for mobile devices any day now
we have internet explorer 6 but better still mozilla is unleashing a very promising fox into the wild ( alfa stage as we speak)
WM7 under development and android starting to walk
OLED screens starting to appear
haptics or multi touch or whatever you want to call it is becoming the standard touch interface
solid state drivers are getting cheapper al the time and faster
mram is under development
dubya is out of the picture
the future looks sunnier
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LMAO, good post as I do look forward to seeing a full flash mobile s/w in the near future from Adobe.

Yes more new Athena from HTC
New Athena is coming out.Check the link below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_2009_roadmap_leaks_in_pictures_seems_quite_promising-news-733.php

For what its worth, the X7500, x7501, and x7510 page is still up:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/advantage/overview.html

I just hope that the leaked information from HTC about new Athena is real, as I love mine and a new version with (hopefully) 800x480 (or more) screen, faster CPU and maybe even usable graphics acceleration would be really nice...

I hope it's true too. I hope they do put in the new NvDIA processor, and I hope they use a faster processor than 624.

What to get after the HD?

I've got to say I love my HD. Almost everything about it... The big let down for me is the camera. I can get some fantastic shots out in the open during the day. But go inside and introduce people to shot and its a crock of ****. I've got the topaz cam cab installed but it makes little difference. Nearly all pictures of my kids come out blurry.
So, I've started looking around for what to get next. Sadly, at the moment, I dont seem to be able to find anything that comes close to my expectations. That Toshiba TG01 sounds good, but I hate the look of it. I like the look of the HTC Hero, but reviews let it down, saying its essentially a magic with a style upgrade.
What are other people considering after their Touch HD's?

The Omnia II looks like a great phone and would be the phone I would upgrade to, but since its not a HTC phone it gets no XDA support which could be a big blow (is for me). If your okay with that, I'd recommended the Omnia II.

It feels as if we have come to the end of the road whit the Blackstone,
yet there is nothing new at the horison.
The next thing I expect from a phone is multitouch, still only iPhone
has that to offer. Isnt that strange?
Basicly Id like a HTC Hero whit better hardware, multitouch and something new...
Read about nVidia haveing a new better chipset and prosessor.
When will that hit the market?

I agree with you KB, lack of XDA support is a big no no for me as well.
Ethania, pardon me being a newb, but what defines a multitouch device?
Which current HTC product has the best camera?

I'm looking for something with mindows mo/symbian, better camera with flash, no bigger than the touch hd and lots of programs to play with.
Currently looking at the Omnia 2, Omnia HD, N97/86 or waiting for HTC to make a phone with a decent camera. I played with a mates SE C905 yesterday and I could see myself going for the Omnia 2 or Omnia HD for the camera - miles better than anything on a HTC device.

Dilinja said:
Ethania, pardon me being a newb, but what defines a multitouch device?
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I would say:
A device which tracks more than one point on the screen simultaniously.
How does that sound? Maybe Im forgetting some important technical term,
but for us mortals, I think this is enough

i wish id held out for an n97 having been a nokia man for years naturally i wanted a n97 but im on o2 and they dont want to sell it because here in the uk that's who you get an iphone with, so i got a touch hd and im deeply disappointed no 3d graphics, crap camera, no native networking/file sharing support, slow wifi transfer speeds, crap video playback, poor music player all things i could do out of the box without hasstle on my old 1st gen n95! not to mention its SLOW!!!
i shouldn't have to hack n mod my phone to make it work reasonably
touch hd for sale 2 months old good as new !!lol!!
sorry if im ranting just for my first winmob im not impressed

matt_not_andrew said:
I'm looking for something with mindows mo/symbian, better camera with flash, no bigger than the touch hd and lots of programs to play with.
Currently looking at the Omnia 2, Omnia HD, N97/86 or waiting for HTC to make a phone with a decent camera. I played with a mates SE C905 yesterday and I could see myself going for the Omnia 2 or Omnia HD for the camera - miles better than anything on a HTC device.
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If you don't mind waiting, the HTC Firestone/Leo is suppose to come this year and is supposed to be the successor to the BlackStone/HD. I think it upgrades all of the hardware.

www.zii.com

kevin666 said:
www.zii.com
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Looks good, but what the hell?
Can u put win mob on it? Is it android only?

kevin666 said:
www.zii.com
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I thought the Zii Plaszma was just a media player? like an ipod touch, so no phone...

Killer Bee said:
If you don't mind waiting, the HTC Firestone/Leo is suppose to come this year and is supposed to be the successor to the BlackStone/HD. I think it upgrades all of the hardware.
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Thank you Killer Bee, this is exactly what Im looking for
Hopefully the camera will be better in low light situs than the touch HDs cam.
The Leo looks effing brilliant

I like the Omnia 2 but couldn't stand the dangling stylus! Why can't they build it into the device!
I like the HTC design but is disappointed with its quality. My HD has to go back to service twice and the service centre is in another state so the turnaround is slow.
After sales service is important for me and I understand there is a Samsung walk-in service centre here in Sydney Australia.

The NEXT PHONE...
Sony Ericsson Xperia X3 (Rachael)...

Excellent Now I have two to choose from when they arrive, the X3 and the Leo
To be fair Ive always got on well with Sonys. The cameras are always tip top on them.

walkin service sounds like a winner - I like the fact that there are many SE ad Nokia centres around the UK but I'm yet to see a drop in HTC one - although their base is in Milton Keynes which is in the next county - still too far and too many annoying roundabouts!

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The Zii isn't a phone though.

did a quick research and I think there are three or maybe 4 devices to wait for -- SE X2 , SE X3 , HTC Leo -- theyre all almost equal by spec except Leo has more ram (screen size doesnt count ) the fourth device (60% that Im wrong) could be the rumored HTC device with Nvidia chipset-- I have a big "I dont know or Im confused" about that device, cuz maybe its the Leo with the chipset!!!
BTW: what happened to those rumors about microsoft phone with tegra??

sorry - double post - some connection issues!

Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
BTW: what happened to those rumors about microsoft phone with tegra??
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They were just that, rumours.
The upcoming Zune HD will use the Tegra chipset but, like the Zii that was linked-to on the previous page, it's just a media player.

NEWS: Sprint HTC Supersonic - > HTC Evo - Summer 2010...

Probably not the right forum, but I thought I'd break the news to you guys:
It seems like that the rumored Sprint HTC Supersonic is gonna be called, "HTC Evo" and it will be released on Sprint in Summer of 2010.
How do I know this? Engadget's coverage is sponsored by Sprint, and even though it's not officially released, they already have a banner that popped up as an advertisement and linked to a Coming Soon Sprint page.
Just thought I'd share the news !

That phone looks very hot. If I didn't already have an HD2, I might have switched to Sprint!

Was just reading that and droling over engadget pictures and videos of this monster aka possiblity the best phone ever!
Would love to put the HTC desire keyboard on there and play with this baby!
Has anyone got any info on availability (GSM / Europe)?

The Supersonic/Evo caught my eye a few weeks ago, but I'm not sold on Android just yet. Most of what I hear is a pretty and fun OS, but not really for getting down and dirty for business. I dono, maybe I'm misreading.

dondian said:
Would love to put the HTC desire keyboard on there and play with this baby!
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It'll have ezinput like all the other HTC phones? Or does the Desire do something differently?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/htc-evo-4g-is-sprints-android-powered-knight-in-superphone-armo/

@mazzarin: If you look at those pics on engadget, it has the same keyboard as HD2..
I for one, hate that keyboard since it has this arrows on the bottom, and when in landscape they're on the right.. So typing in landscape means keyboard is not "centered" (if you know what i mean, i'm sure HD2 users do).
So optimal solution would be that desire HTC_ime, since it's also 800x480
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
Again, anyone has availability info (GSM / Europe)?

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Again, anyone has availability info (GSM / Europe)?
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I do hope this come to Europe cause probably this is going to be my next phone. So long WinMo phones!!! M$ just digged their own grave with the WP7...

not sure about u but its going to be my next phone no more winmo

Cool beans. I will keep my HD2 and hope one day we get WM7 running on it. But come summer, I am getting this baby which will most likely become my primary phone.
Its like my prayers were just answered.

can we port the android software from HTC Evo to the HTC HD2

The Qualcomm 8650 chip does support GSM as well as CDMA, so is say there's a possibility for a GSM version.

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The Supersonic/Evo caught my eye a few weeks ago, but I'm not sold on Android just yet. Most of what I hear is a pretty and fun OS, but not really for getting down and dirty for business. I dono, maybe I'm misreading.
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You should try Android... it works for business just fine. I can't ever see going back to Winblows

I've got a Sprint Hero, and use it as my primary phone. Work, play, addictions. It's great at just about everything. (Android, the Hero is kindof lacking cajones)

I'm using an HTC HD2 on AT&T's network. I absolutely love the phone. Coming from a long line of qwerty keyboard packing HTC phones, getting used to typing on the screen has taken a few weeks. I have also been playing with a nexus one. I truly believe that Android will kill off Windows Mobile. This is a shame because the HD2 running WM6.5 is an extraordinary device. This device comes a little too late. HTC should have built something like this two years ago instead of that touch pro with the little teeny screen. I digress.
It will be a miracle if MS can pull off WM7. They are already so far behind Apple and Android. Even if WM7 is great, Android will be so far ahead by then in term of apps and numbers. Even of MS gives the operating system away for free, it may be a tough sell.
This is sad but the writing's on the wall. Heck, there isn't even a Kindle app for WM. It seems developers have already pronounced WM DOA before the announcement of WM7.
I'd love to use a GSM version of the Supersonic. CDMA is such a lousy network. The battery has to be much larger to last even a day. With Wimax going, the thing will be lucky to last half a day per full charge.

*Wonders if this device will have the multi-touch functions and screen rotation animations...*

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*Wonders if this device will have the multi-touch functions and screen rotation animations...*
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...AND.... Surf the web while listening to music... (multi-tasking capabilities)....