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Is this article re Supersonic credible?

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/405306/htc_supersonic_exposed_as_android_hd2.html
March release date? Seriously? That would suck to have an N1 now only to have this pop up in a couple of months

I was thinking the same buy it couldn't be too much different besides the shape&carrier.
Maybe it willbe sold by google like the n1,just being for sprint. I've had a feeling thateach carrier supporting android will have a "flagship phone" each that will be soldby google&they'd be the top tier android phones.

I've read in other articles, aside from the one the OP linked to, that it will have a larger screen and 1gb of ROM.

It does not matter much to me. I've got all I wanted in the N1. (Flashlight and hopefully FM too)
Waited 3 years for it !

britoso said:
It does not matter much to me. I've got all I wanted in the N1. (Flashlight and hopefully FM too)
Waited 3 years for it !
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My Nexus 1 has arrived in the box - what advantages will I have, this being a Google phone, in terms of software support - compared to HTC only branded phones which come in the future?
I Really don't want to regret having this phone because one is coming in a couple of months >.<...
Will MT become officially available?
Will those touch sensitive buttons be fixed so that they are more responsive?
Navigation coming to UK?
To be honest, if these 3 issues did not exist, I would have opened the box already!

my shortlist was between hd2 and n1 - I went for the n1 and am pleased.
The hd2 was tempting because of the big screen, i saw one in the o2 shop and they do look awesome. I wanted to get off WM though and try Android.
Now if there is going to be a android hd2 that would be good for some people.
The main reason I wanted to upgrade was because i had an xperia x1 and since my eyesight is not as good as it was and the screen was hard to read at times due to the default fonts and dialogs on WM. The N1 screen is better in many ways not just the size over the x1 but the oled and lack of plastic laminates used for the resistive touch screen used on the x1 make it much more readable.
In summary then, I dont think I need the massive screen of the HD2 or the android version of it, and I am enjoying how thin and light the N1 is.

Freezey said:
I was thinking the same buy it couldn't be too much different besides the shape&carrier.
Maybe it willbe sold by google like the n1,just being for sprint. I've had a feeling thateach carrier supporting android will have a "flagship phone" each that will be soldby google&they'd be the top tier android phones.
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Unlikely, the Supersonic isn't a google branded phone. if rumors (and pictures) are true it's shipping with HTC's Sense UI, meaning it won't be a google branded phone and all support, updates will go through HTC as usual.

ma2k5 said:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/405306/htc_supersonic_exposed_as_android_hd2.html
March release date? Seriously? That would suck to have an N1 now only to have this pop up in a couple of months
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What does it matter? Its just a verizon-CDMA junk version of the same thing with an HTC-cripple-UI.

There are always nicer phones coming out just a few months away... you should really get used to and accept it.

HD2 VS Supersonic

what do you guys think about this?? t-mobile it's getting the hd2 and sprint might get the supersonic, supposedly the supersonic has 3.7 or 4.3 screen inch same as hd2, but hd2 runs windows mobile and supersonic will run android, what do you guy think about this two powerful smarthphones? which one would be better? will t-mobile have any chances of getting the supersonic? will supersonic launch on june of 2010?
HTC Supersonic:
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xok9E8SRCS0
link 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6kaJ9mFjKg&feature=related
HTC HD2:
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEUiYg4oeL8
tell me what you guys think about this two monsters.

adrian_nene16 said:
what do you guys think about this?? t-mobile it's getting the hd2 and sprint might get the supersonic, supposedly the supersonic has 3.7 or 4.3 screen inch same as hd2, but hd2 runs windows mobile and supersonic will run android, what do you guy think about this two powerful smarthphones? which one would be better? will t-mobile have any chances of getting the supersonic? will supersonic launch on june of 2010?
HTC Supersonic:
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xok9E8SRCS0
link 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6kaJ9mFjKg&feature=related
HTC HD2:
link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEUiYg4oeL8
tell me what you guys think about this two monsters.
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get supersonic if it has 4.3 display android now is better

I'm not going to change carrier just for a phone. They're pretty much similar in specs and the battle between WinMo vs Android comes down to personal preference, really. Still, at the end of the day, I'd rather have a SIM card than not (Sprint has horrible receptions around here anyway).

lol @ questions about speculating.
If the Supersonic gets released, and it has the same hardware as the HD2, then it will be just as much of a monster as the HD2.
I REALLY don't understand the mentality of people who believe Android is the best mobile OS right now. Currently owning a G1 since launch day (and a Nexus One for a week), I can testify to it's many shortcomings. Windows Mobile isn't perfect, but in terms of stability it's on a different level entirely.

i have t-mobile and i will buy the hd2 since i dont really like sprint but.. the supersonic seems good too, i hope doesnt come with 4.3 in screen because i will be soo jealous because most the people in this forum want android in hd2 and supposedly the supersonic will be just like hd2 but in android, i have never got an android phone but ill stick with the hd2 maybe if the supersonic it has same hardware as hd2 people from xda can hack it and we can be able to use it on hd2, who knows

In my oppinion , to answer your question, how developed is Android & how deeveloped is Windows. Seems Windows has more experience than Android. To me the Supersonic is coming out of left field to try & imitate & take some of the glory away from the King-HD2, me, it's HD2 all the way.

Oh yea Sprint is on it's last breath, not very many people use sprint, regardleess they say it's #3(which doesn't make sense, w/lousy customer support included) & Tmo is #4 with the best plans & the best phones & great customer support (been to them all & Tmo is where I'm going back to w/no complaints). a year & a half I've been waiting & next week I'll be happy again.

yeaah king-d2 sounds good, do you think there's going to be an htc hd3 by november?

Well i don't think so but it's posible you see Win7 seems to be their new direction which seems Ok in a way concidering the big hassle Apple is giving so many manufactures which leaves Windows free & clear. Personally, maybe I'll use Win 7 on my PC but I don't have all that much of a need for it on the HD2. Check Engadget & Boygeniusreport for starters to recognize the many sites that will keep you updated.

i will never stop saying that the Genius's are here.

yeah.. well i dont know bout those hd3 "specifications" that were on the internet, i hope they are true i wanna believe so bad but only time will tell
what do you guys think

Should I Buy an HTC HD2.. I am keeping th G1 though

I like the HTC HD2 screen size but... ITS WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5! YUCK!
Hopefully Android will be ported over to it when the HTC Evo 4g comes out right? I would kill for that phone
Any opinions as I am making this decision soon...

Greatest hardware in the world is still crap if it's crippled with WM 6.5.

Android was ported but not to the American Version. It probably won't be a long wait though.

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Android was ported but not to the American Version. It probably won't be a long wait though.
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Any links? I've been searching for quite some time and haven't found anything yet and my heart skipped a beat when I read your post

I lied. Don't listen to me, I have no life. I listen to KanYe West. But they have ported it onto the other models of the HD2.

Your better off getting a WMP7, the UI is great and reminds me of my Zune HD. I like winmo, iphone os, and now android too

G1BRICKED said:
I lied. Don't listen to me, I have no life. I listen to KanYe West. But they have ported it onto the other models of the HD2.
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I'm slightly scared.

Blackman778g said:
I like the HTC HD2 screen size but... ITS WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5! YUCK!
Hopefully Android will be ported over to it when the HTC Evo 4g comes out right? I would kill for that phone
Any opinions as I am making this decision soon...
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Why not just get a GN1? Its a better phone and has the benefit of coming with android 2.1 and not giving a single penny over to evilMS.

Ace42 said:
Your better off getting a WMP7, the UI is great and reminds me of my Zune HD. I like winmo, iphone os, and now android too
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Yeah it reminds me of the Zune HD, but as a phone I think the OS is a stupid design. It doesn't seem fluid at all. This, of course, is coming from someone who hasn't had first hand experience. I have only seen videos, and of those videos, I am not impressed.

nolimit78 said:
Yeah it reminds me of the Zune HD, but as a phone I think the OS is a stupid design. It doesn't seem fluid at all. This, of course, is coming from someone who hasn't had first hand experience. I have only seen videos, and of those videos, I am not impressed.
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Ditto. I've never liked Windows Mobile. Symbian was way better than it, and I have to say, Android has blew symbian out of the water now. But didn't xda port android to it? Meh, I've never been a fan of ports, either. Here's what I'm doing: waiting till an upgrade period and if there's any whispers of a phone after the N1, I'll just wait for it and get that.

I have been lurking awile and I wanted to give opinion on the hd2 because I was in the same sitiaution when the hd2 came out. I was following the hd2 since october. And I was e excited about it. I was at the store early got it and I returned it the next day. I have been using a G1 since it came and then played around with a jailbroken and unlocked iphone and the hd2 was terrible. The. Phone itself is gorgeous but once you get over the bells and whistles its not user friendly and it locked up on me 5 times the period I had it.. I am just sticking to my G1 until somethin better comes out I cam say I prefer my rooted eclair G1 over the hd2 and the only other phone I would replace my g with now would an N1 but I don't want to pay the hefty price tag. I know you can flash the hd2 and all that but I don't like the idea of flashing a phone just to get it to work but rather flash, root, jailbreak to make it better. My G1 works fine out the box but its totally different. Beast when you root it.. aside from the freezing issues with the hd2, its just not. User friendly and the phone quality is terrible imo. You can get one for yourself but I would stick with my trusty g1..

htc evo 4g answers all your prayers my friend
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G1BRICKED said:
Android was ported but not to the American Version. It probably won't be a long wait though.
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Oh, for real... If so then maybe i'll consider it.
Shrivel said:
Greatest hardware in the world is still crap if it's crippled with WM 6.5.
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I KNOW!!! It aggrivates me to see such a great phone with crap for an operating system.
lbcoder said:
Why not just get a GN1? Its a better phone and has the benefit of coming with android 2.1 and not giving a single penny over to evilMS.
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I was considering that but then I guess i'll have t save up some extra cash.
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Ditto. I've never liked Windows Mobile. Symbian was way better than it, and I have to say, Android has blew symbian out of the water now. But didn't xda port android to it? Meh, I've never been a fan of ports, either. Here's what I'm doing: waiting till an upgrade period and if there's any whispers of a phone after the N1, I'll just wait for it and get that.
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Yeah, I think i'll wait it out aswell untill something in the stores for t-mobile comes.... Im hoping for an GSM version of the HTC Evo

mattv888 said:
htc evo 4g answers all your prayers my friend
Sent from my HTC Dream G1 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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Yes!!!! It does but it is not for GSM carriers...
j0hnee said:
I have been lurking awile and I wanted to give opinion on the hd2 because I was in the same sitiaution when the hd2 came out. I was following the hd2 since october. And I was e excited about it. I was at the store early got it and I returned it the next day. I have been using a G1 since it came and then played around with a jailbroken and unlocked iphone and the hd2 was terrible. The. Phone itself is gorgeous but once you get over the bells and whistles its not user friendly and it locked up on me 5 times the period I had it.. I am just sticking to my G1 until somethin better comes out I cam say I prefer my rooted eclair G1 over the hd2 and the only other phone I would replace my g with now would an N1 but I don't want to pay the hefty price tag. I know you can flash the hd2 and all that but I don't like the idea of flashing a phone just to get it to work but rather flash, root, jailbreak to make it better. My G1 works fine out the box but its totally different. Beast when you root it.. aside from the freezing issues with the hd2, its just not. User friendly and the phone quality is terrible imo. You can get one for yourself but I would stick with my trusty g1..
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Yeah, the G1 never let me down or crashed onme once and i've always installed random apps I don't need or use for one day. But... whe I rooted my G1... I WAS ALL OVER IT!
Windows Mobile is a complete let down then... I would never switch to it.

There was an article on Wired that interview the guy from XDA that flashed an Android ROM on a WM phone. Pretty interesting except he is in the UK so I would be hesitant to try it just yet

Hungry360 said:
There was an article on Wired that interview the guy from XDA that flashed an Android ROM on a WM phone. Pretty interesting except he is in the UK so I would be hesitant to try it just yet
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Hmmm.. I'll have to pay attention to that.
Do you have the link?

I had a G1 and now have a HD2. I love the hardware and the winmo is just okay. My phone works great and the screen is awesome.
I do miss my G1. Everyone who likes winmo says it is great for business users. I am just an average user and miss my android apps. I played euchre on my G1 and the only euchre game I can find for winmo is $12.99. Not near as many apps and not many free apps.
I am patiently waiting for android to be ported to the HD2. There are no working ports of android on the HD2 so far. As is says in the previous post they have android ported to a winmo phone. But if you read the thread on XDA, the android port for the HD2 is really not even close.

Don't know about everyone else, but I bought the G1 at launch (10-24-08) and my contract won't be up until November.
I'm hoping for some good Win 7 phones by that time, with a physical keyboard.

SiXiam said:
Don't know about everyone else, but I bought the G1 at launch (10-24-08) and my contract won't be up until November.
I'm hoping for some good Win 7 phones by that time, with a physical keyboard.
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i have to say.... im waiting for ANY good phone with a keyboard. companies seem to be stuck on touchscreen as most people like it because it's "sooo cool." cool as it is, it's a pain in the end. my main issue is the lag of the keyboard... it can't keep up with me! at least physical seems to NEVER lag unless the actual phone itself is encountering a laggy moment.
tf442 said:
I am patiently waiting for android to be ported to the HD2. There are no working ports of android on the HD2 so far. As is says in the previous post they have android ported to a winmo phone. But if you read the thread on XDA, the android port for the HD2 is really not even close.
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if you read my post i said i thought they did. i don't keep up with hd2 as i don't have one. i thought i saw it on the portal one day, though.

HD2 or Incredible

Well after my ATT Razr finally ave up the ghost last week I ended up getting an HD2 T-Mobile. My first smart phone so I have no experience to compare Winmo/Android/Iphone.
First off I LOVE the large screen and sleek form factor of this phone. It is pleasure for me just to look at it and hold in my hand. Also the sense UI is very nice and thanks to XDA I have this thing tweaked nicely with Cookie's Home Tab, tetherings, etc. It might even be better if I flach the ROM.
That said I do seem to get a lot of freezes and crashes. Also with T-mo I am on Edge a lot and never was with ATT. I have an Incredible that will be waiting for me at Verizon on Thursday but I am a bit conflicted about giving up the HD2. I'm hoping for some feedback from more experienced smart phone users on this forum. some pros and cons for me:
Incredible runs Android. I guess this is the big one. May be more stable, more apps to download, etc.s. Maybe a much better user experienced.
love the big screen on HD2 (but I guess3.7 aint shabby)
Better network with Verizon but a bit more money
HD2 is quad band world phone.
OLED screen on Incredible is supposed to suck in daylight and the HD2 may be something I can use better outdoors. I guess the battery life is better with OLED but I would rather carry a spare battery and be able to see the thing on the street.
I have until Friday (2 more days) to return my HD2 so your feedback is appreciated.
Thanks................Marc

Return the HD2, get the incredible, if you dont like it, return that and get the HD2 again!
or just play with one in the shops. we arent gonna be living with the phone, you are, and so what I may like may not be what you like
That said, I want the Incredible, cos i wanna experience android, but I like the HD2 aswell! I cant have both, and since the incredible isnt coming to the uk, i guess thats my decision made for me!

U can put an Android system to HD2..and prolly U can also put a WM to Incredible
personally Ive got an HD2, but Id love to have the incredible..but for now its only for states 4g stuff..but really..before the Incredible got out..HD2 was the best phone on the planet earth..IMO

Android to the HD2 is far off in the future if at all.

tgerbracht said:
Android to the HD2 is far off in the future if at all.
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man..Im sure I saw it in some youtube video..plus the guy like could switch between the WM and Android..
Ill try to find and post it here..

imauser said:
man..Im sure I saw it in some youtube video..plus the guy like could switch between the WM and Android..
Ill try to find and post it here..
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Was probabaly the Touch HD, not the HD2

I think that HD2 was not much ruined by Tmobile installing their software on it... I have seen lots of poeple complaining about HTC Andorid based devices with Verizon - Droid and Eris... I simply cannot believe HTC would want something like that on the market. Droid is 5 times worse than my old HTC Wizard (MDA)...
Don't get me wrong - android is somewhat of a good concept and good OS - but sweet lord can branding of the carrier can ruin the phone...
I am actually pretty happy with how Tmobile kept HD2 up to speed with the manufacturer unlocked device - side by side - more memory for Tmobile HD2 and only downside is "Tmobile" sign on it - everything else seems to be same - meaning Tmobile did not ruin it... Verizon or AT&T including Tmobile would ruin the phone terribly ...
Example - AT&T ruined Nokia E71 - they castrated Nokia out of 99% of all the guts and presented it in the worse possible way - just to promote iPhone... I had E71 and it is not easily replacable... Even with HD2 I had to give up some very useful things that I am researching and slowly getting on HD2...
LOVE HD2 - go for it you won't make a mistake...

Incredible is only 3.7 inch screen where the evo4 is 4.3
Both android. Evo is bang on the same as the HD2 but android.
Still waiting for detailed specs to see bands supported.

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Incredible is only 3.7 inch screen where the evo4 is 4.3
Both android. Evo is bang on the same as the HD2 but android.
Still waiting for detailed specs to see bands supported.
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off the top of my head, evo has an updated snapdragon (i.e. the model after sorta thing but still 1ghz), better camera (8mp i think), hdmi out and 720p recording i thinkkk. so evo is a bit better than the hd2!

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off the top of my head, evo has an updated snapdragon (i.e. the model after sorta thing but still 1ghz), better camera (8mp i think), hdmi out and 720p recording i thinkkk. so evo is a bit better than the hd2!
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I don't think evo has an "updated" snapdragon. It just has the CMDA version and not the GSM. So I wouldn't expect any real differences there.
But otherwise, evo should be the updated HD2.
I think hardware vise it ends up like so:
1) EVO
2) Incredible
3) HD2
However, HD2 vs Incredible is a question of screen size. Furthermore, you still have to look at software and carrier. In the end it all comes down to the user and then it's 'to each their own.'

Incredible = Verizon = CDMA = skip!
Not that T-Mo has much of a network...

[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?

I think no atm,

I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...

For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?

evilwise said:
Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...

Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
Sent from my Desire-HTC HD2 using XDA App

The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.

I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.

wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!

Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...

AntonJart said:
I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.

Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!