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Reason to still get a Nexus One?

I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o

Mokurex said:
I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
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Pros of Nexus One vs desire
Will get Froyo soon (with full flash support)
two mics with one being used for noise cancellation
Cons of nexus one vs desire
3g issue(not as strong 3g signal if held in hand and weaker signal then other 3g phones)
no outlook calender support by default
Pros of desire vs nexus one
sense ui (if you like sense)
outlook calender support by default
Cons desire vs nexus one
Will not get Froyo or other udates soon or at all
one mic with no noise cancellation
If it was me I would go with the evo 4g but if I had to choose N1 vs desire I would get the nexus one. You will end up using nexus one rom with froyo anyway if you want updates the same year they come out.
Edit: Removed incorrect info about touch screen.

Wow, you basically nailed everything. Thanks for the info man.

I believe the Desire has the same touch screen as the Nexus One, and the same 3G chip. The 3G reception and the limitations of the touchscreen are the same on both.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmnvikY0rg

PrawnPoBoy said:
I believe the Desire has the same touch screen as the Nexus One, and the same 3G chip. The 3G reception and the limitations of the touchscreen are the same on both.
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The desire has the same 3g reception problem???? 0.o
Never heard of that one before. I guess not enough people has the desire yet.

Mokurex said:
The desire has the same 3g reception problem???? 0.o
Never heard of that one before. I guess not enough people has the desire yet.
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That, or they just don't wine about it as much as Nexus One owners do (T-Mobile especially).

I'm in the same boat as you.. (my contract with t-mobile is up in 40 days).. I too am going with the nexus one over the desire and other phones.

Desire has the same identical touchscreen as Nexus, so no pros on the touchscreen. I think you have confused desire with the droid incredible.

I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend

vegetaleb said:
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
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That can't be right, LOL

vegetaleb said:
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
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Same here, lol, but my GF is constantly stealing my N1 from me, she loves the games on it.
Yesterday, at 1am, while still playing with it, she proclaimed that this is actually a "Family phone", so she has a right to use it all the time..
I guess I'll end up buying another one for her.

Yep, the ol lady is making noises. lol

N1:
1. N1 looks sexier than Desire.
2. N1 will get better attention from google.
3. N1 has active noise cancellation.
4. N1 has better development scene.
5. No SenseUI (I'd like to use google's interface).
6. Better support from community.
7. Tri-colour trackball notifications
Desire:
1. Desire has optical trackball.
2. It has more RAM (+50 I guess).
3. Comes with FM (I guess N1 will get it activated in the next update).
They both have the same touchscreen. So no advantages here...

faraz1992 said:
2. It has more RAM (+50 I guess).
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The Nexus One and the Desire have the same amount of RAM. They use the same SOC with 512MB of RAM. HTC must be combining the 64MB of RAM of another processor in the phone into their total while Google doesn't for their specs.

Out of all if these new phones coming out, the only feature I really wish my Nexus had is HDMI out. I could care less about the new screens, or higher res cameras with HD recording (the main upgrades you'll find in the newer phones).. Some people definitely will, but I don't. If none of those three features really matter to you, you can't go wrong with the Nexus. Performance wise there really isn't anything that's even been announced that will trump the N1 in terms of speed and power.
If it comes down to the Desire and Nexus, and you value custom development, then pick the Nexus.

There isnt such a difference between the N1 and the Desire ( except for the noise cancellation, form factor, trackpad, ). They share the same specifications and while the Desire has a bit more RAM on paper, I dont think it will make any difference in performance. The touchscreen technology is THE SAME on both phones, only the Incredible has the new touchscreen technology so hah !!! I currently have the N1 and I have to say that I love every bit of it. If i had a chance to choose one more time between the N1 and the desire, I will still go with the N1 for some subjectively unspoken reasons ( lol ), and I LOVE the glowing notification trackball of the N1, which is just SO cool and not many android devices are equipped with !

There is a thread in the Desire subforum about it's reception dropping when picked up.

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
There isnt such a difference between the N1 and the Desire ( except for the noise cancellation, form factor, trackpad, ). They share the same specifications and while the Desire has a bit more RAM on paper, I dont think it will make any difference in performance. The touchscreen technology is THE SAME on both phones, only the Incredible has the new touchscreen technology so hah !!! I currently have the N1 and I have to say that I love every bit of it. If i had a chance to choose one more time between the N1 and the desire, I will still go with the N1 for some subjectively unspoken reasons ( lol ), and I LOVE the glowing notification trackball of the N1, which is just SO cool and not many android devices are equipped with !
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The HTC Evo also has the new touchscreen. People are not paying it much attention yet..

Mokurex said:
I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
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Are both available in Thailand? If so, what's the price difference?

What's the HD2 Equiv from android hardware wise?

I'm wanting a phone that's got the power (if not more) than the HD2 had but using the Android OS. I've had two of these phones so far and the mms issue is really, really annoying amongst other things people have already mentioned but I'm not going to do that.
Aesthetically speaking the phone was phenomenal as well as its hardware, software wise it just felt on its face for me.
Anyhow any suggestions for things that are coming out that a tmobile USA customer could use I would appreciate it or something that's sort of identical to the HD2 just in android form.

Closest non HTC I have seen running Android hardware wise, is the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10.
Same Snapdragon 1ghz and similar ram setup. Also very sleek and similar design.
I have one of them too, tbh I do prefer the HD2. winmo 6 isnt as bad as previous versions and the HD2 comes with sense. With a few tweaks its doing far more than my X10.
Anyhow, not sure if its available in the US, but I cant see why not.
Hope this helps,
Sp4wn

uh the evo on sprint ius nearly identical hardware with android...how are you on xda and don't know this?

Evo 4G is pretty much identical to the HD2 and it runs Android with sense(has 8mp camera in the back, front facing camera, and hdmi mini out). It's coming out this summer (June i think), but it's for sprint so you'd have to change carriers.
At this time, you're not going to find anything more powerful than HD2, since all it's components are max of what's out there atm.

tbonezx11 said:
uh the evo on sprint ius nearly identical hardware with android...how are you on xda and don't know this?
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I don't make it a habit of frequenting all the other boards all the time and I'm with tmobile USA so I get even more limited with what phones they have to offer and I'm not a huge fan of spending 500+ for a phone if I can help it..
As for the evo, thank you very much - that sounds like something I would be completely interested in going for.
If the Hd2 ends up getting some updates that make sense stop crashing I'd be all over it.

after a brief affair with the hd2.....

coming back to the n1.
long story short, had the n1 since release...sold it to get the hd2. after about 6 weeks with the hd2 i'm selling it. ordered my n1 today and it should arrive tomorrow.
hd2 is a nice device but imo doesnt compare overall to the n1.
no real point to this post other than to state it feels good to come back home.

let me guess, it's the windows mobile. lol

Mokurex said:
let me guess, it's the windows mobile. lol
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pretty much. sense helped alot though

HTC Evo 4g sounds like a winner for you. HD2 form factor+Android.

I had a similar experience, Nexus One then bought the HD2, great hardware, superb device, the problem is Windows Mobile, really bad, so I am back with the Nexus One
Now regarding the EVO, the problem will be Sprint, great device, great OS (Android), not that great service and coverage (no international coverage).
We need an EVO equivalent device with AT&T or Verizon.

i think the 2 areas where the hd2 excelled was screen (however debatable...quality vs quantity) and music (possibly simply for having an eq). just about all other areas i have to give it to the n1.

Mokurex said:
HTC Evo 4g sounds like a winner for you. HD2 form factor+Android.
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I love my Nexus but have seriously been thinking about letting it go for a Evo. That phone seems perfect IMO except for that fact that I will greatly miss the trackball notifications

i currently have both right now and i must say i am using the nexus one more due to the fact that android as an OS has better design, navigation, ease-of-use. However, the HD2 is great for browsing, reading douments, PDF etc..

Had nexus since release, bought hd2 just to sell it a week later. missed it too much and managed to snag a free one which I sold again lol. then here I am with nexus one and another hd2 which I've gotten super cheap. I think I am going to well it for good this time. no matter what I do with it, just doesn't compare to Android. great hardware, screen, design, but win mo is a killer. even with spb mobile I can't get rid of the texting lag with keyboard, maps are users when compared to android, horrid app choice, all apps are ugly. with sense, you literally have to go to your computer to change your wallpaper since the device does not like to size it properly and they come out blurry... with custom roms, you can't just update, have to reset the device every time, meh...

[Q] What to get after HD2...

Hi all
I was just wondering if you can share any comments what smartphone have best apps in 2011.
What you will buy after HD2 ?
thanks

This is a question thats on my mind at the minute as well.
The main problem for me is that Ive become so used to the 4.3" screen that I really dont think I could handle using a phone with a screen of less than 4".
Im currently torn between the DHD, Nexus S, Incredible S, Desire S or the Sensation.
Im seriously thinking about waiting until June for the sensation, my concern is the battery though. HTC seem to be pretty lax when it comes to getting optimal battery life from a phone, the sensation with its dual core and new sense (which will probably be even more of a memory hog than the old sense) is going to tear the arse out of any battery.
Theres also the issue of how long its going to take to acheive root / s-off.... (Im very impatient and will not be able to put up with sense for that long, I really dont like the android version for some reason.)
DHD, obviously very similar to the HD2 with a good amount of development going on. However, poor battery life and the age of the device put me off a little. When I upgrade I'm going to have that phone for 18 months so I feel like I should probably go for a evice thats as new as possible.
Nexus, the only thing really putting me off is the fact that its made of nasty looking shiny plastic and doesnt feel as solid as the HD2. Also not a huge selection of custom ROMS for it from what I can see, compared to some devices.
So errr yeah... lol

Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.

I just took Nexus S, actually looks not bad but screen is noticeably smaller. I did it because I wanted to resell my HD2 while still in warranty and Samsung are offering very good discounts on the SNS in France (it costs less than the Galaxy!). When Sensation comes out and price calms down I'll resell the SNS to get that marvel. Sadly, I'm hugely missing HTC Sense...

seriously even i am kinna confused i i say i want desirehd its been already ported to hd2 & so also nexus...i hope htc comes out dual core hd2...so we can start the fun all over again i know its not possible!
But ATM its just hd2 for me!

I think HTC EVO 3D will be my next phone after HD2 TMOUS

Simple, ....Another HD2

Nimac91 said:
Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
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Sadly I totaly disagree with your Nokia statement - they have lost the plot in high end phones over the last couple of years.
The N8 is a software nightmare, as was the 5800 and that range of phones.
Their new mid range phone C7 - C5 have software issues.
This is not just my view I work it Mobile technical support. Nokia are no longer the top manufacturer - they do not rate the top 5 now. Use Google and read the comments from their CEO, he says about the same!
Incredible is my next phone - if my provider supply it

I think that Iphone 4 is superior for the touch screen and for the smoothness of system...Nevertheless I'm waiting for new devices of Htc like Sensation or evo 3d to make a choice...

Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?

I've been wondering this too. I just bought an HD2, but of course, the phone is a year old already, and smartphones are now getting 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, and dual core processors.
Before long, the HD2 is going to be out of date.
Personally, the most attractive aspect of the HD2 to me is how incredibly hackable it is. If I were to upgrade, I would hope whatever phone I upgrade to would have several OSes available to use too (as opposed to just several derivatives of the same OS).

TheATHEiST said:
Simple, ....Another HD2
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Hit the nail on the head there brother!
The HD7 is a minor temptation, but after playing with a Mozart I found that there is no connecting to a hidden network, or as a mass storage device. A shame as everything else is very nice in WP7.
So I am keeping my eye out for hot deals on HD2's
Edit: Forgot about the non-removeable/expandable storage in WP7 (I have 32Gb in my HD2)

probably getting sensation for daily driver but will be saving this HD2 because its superphone over anything, probably ever because of OS possibilities.
If there doesnt come any other better phones than sensation I will be getting it when it releases.

Kailkti said:
Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
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this or the htc sensation, im tempted to save the money and buy an s2 with the tegra 2 chip. It seems like tegra 2 will be widely supported and it'll have games optimised for it also it may lead to the phone being cracked faster.

For me there realy isnt any phone that beats HD2 (still). Im a WM6.1 ,WM6.5.x fanboy. the only hing that I miss at HD2 is harwware keyboard. but other then that it still is the perfect phone in my opinion. I never oliked phones that you get bored of quickly. HD2 has alot of development going on xda. you can have numerous OSes running on it. It never gets boring. I probably will not change my phone before there is realy something special (no, galaxy S 2 isnt special enough ).

At the moment I'm still torn between different OS's(ssssss). I've been warming to WinPho 7, but after reading over on Pocket Now about some of the things that might STILL be missing even after the Mango update later this year, I don't think I can wait. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-the-missing-features No smart dialing, no flash support in the browser? What on earth are Microsoft doing?
Having said I can't wait for Microsoft to get their act together, if I could stick a super LCD in my HD2 and a better camera sensor, I would happily keep it for another year or two until quad core chips are out and are selling at reasonable money.
The Sensation will be such a rip-off SIM-free here in the UK this summer I couldn't bring myself to buy one; there'll be much better and more efficient hardware out by the end of '11, beginning '12 ; )

G2x
Stock Android
Tegra Dual Core
4g
Supports a WIDE range of spectrums and supports ATT 3g along with T-Mobile's 4g and 3g
All screen and no keyboard.
It's literally future proof (since ATT will be eating Tmobile soon)

The SGS2 looks better than the Sensation in terms of specs?

[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?

I think no atm,

I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...

For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?

evilwise said:
Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...

Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
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The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.

I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.

wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!

Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
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I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...

AntonJart said:
I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.

Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!