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HTC Blackstone / Touch HD

Hello partyppl.
Quick specs are
quote modaco post:
"Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Qualcomm 7201A processor @ 528MHz
512MB ROM / 256MB RAM (+32MB on processor)
WVGA
115mm x 62.8mm x 12mm
'In stores for Santa'
GPS / HSDPA etc. etc.
5 Megapixel camera (no flash)"
Enjoy the pictures.

what about the hardware and os ? will it be compatible with wm7 ?
it looks awsome anyway

that what i think it is?
dream?

*wrong post

That's a nice looking phone. HTC sure has many new and interesting models coming

I love this phone

looks GREAT to me

Finaly, Htc made their own big touch-screen, sure beats iPhone and Xperia (3.5 and 3.0):333
Tech and Os specs would be great !

Taken off of Engadget

I am using Hermes (AT&T). Was very tempted to get Kaiser. And I've been saving money for Touch Pro.... I really hope they will make Touch HD Pro with a slide-out keyboard and normal audio jack (not a mini-USB).
P.S. iPhone sucks!

looks good, kind of like the omnia. and actually, the iphone doesn't suck.

nemets said:
I am using Hermes (AT&T). Was very tempted to get Kaiser. And I've been saving money for Touch Pro.... I really hope they will make Touch HD Pro with a slide-out keyboard and normal audio jack (not a mini-USB).
P.S. iPhone sucks!
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i don't think that it has an keyboard, its too small

If they ever release a CDMA version i'm getting one. If it has a capacitive touchscreen, i'll be in heaven.

I so want that, I posted earlier and now when I`ve seen specs etc. it looks promising.
I might upgrade my Kaiser to that when time comes

As nice as the phone looks to be, I can't help but say I'm disappointed in HTC. I feel they are oversaturating the market with products and not allowing any one phone to have some sort of longevitiy. This phone makes the Diamond the new Touch Cruise and the Touch Cruise the new Touch. Over time people will realize that if you wait a few months something much better is going to come out from HTC, so you may as well wait for it.
This is really shocking to see so soon after the Diamond, which really hasn't even had a chance to peak in the market if you ask me. Any potential sale they were going to have with the Diamond is probably gone now. HTC needs to consolidate their offerings to put out better spec'd equipment and to give people their money's worth.
But still, nice phone.

Here is what I posted on the other thread with some pictures I am using from the original post over at the other forum...
Here are some more pictures....taken from here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/272214/introducing-the-htc-touch-hd/

halorin said:
As nice as the phone looks to be, I can't help but say I'm disappointed in HTC. I feel they are oversaturating the market with products and not allowing any one phone to have some sort of longevitiy. This phone makes the Diamond the new Touch Cruise and the Touch Cruise the new Touch. Over time people will realize that if you wait a few months something much better is going to come out from HTC, so you may as well wait for it.
This is really shocking to see so soon after the Diamond, which really hasn't even had a chance to peak in the market if you ask me. Any potential sale they were going to have with the Diamond is probably gone now. HTC needs to consolidate their offerings to put out better spec'd equipment and to give people their money's worth.
But still, nice phone.
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I kinda feel the same way. I was just getting ready to upgrade my Sprint Touch for the soon to be released Touch Diamond, but then I see this which is just about perfect for my needs.
I'll probably still get the Touch Diamond for now and plan to upgrade next in 2009 to a WM7 device, well unless this gets a capacitive touchscreen then it'll have to be mine.

EliteXen said:
I kinda feel the same way. I was just getting ready to upgrade my Sprint Touch for the soon to be released Touch Diamond, but then I see this which is just about perfect for my needs.
I'll probably still get the Touch Diamond for now and plan to upgrade next in 2009 to a WM7 device, well unless this gets a capacitive touchscreen then it'll have to be mine.
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Notice how the baby does not have a joystick?
How are you going to Scroll Zoom without that Capacitive JoyPad?
Not to start the Rumour Mill or anything but..... Maybe you should be a nice boy so Santa takes good care of you
Just let me dream a bit here.

agree, cannot imagine how to use windows mobile without d-pad? is it a fault?

Really a nice model!
Only problem I see, there is no keyboard... but still is a good candidate
Screen is 3.?" right?

Why I am not buying this phone..!

I was an early adopter of the first generation touch HD and was instantly underwhelmed by this "flagship" phone, mainly due to its poor video capabilities and lack of TV out.
So, we on earth have yet again taken a step back?, no tv out, granted the video capabilites are up to scratch but to not offer TV out at this stage is for want of a better word and insult.
The main contenders the iphone and omnia 2 and omnia HD both offer good tv out but HTC have again decided to offer us a cut down "flagship" phone. For me this is the last straw.
Where I cannot move to IPhone as I hate itunes with a passion that should only be reserved for a child killer it is starting to look like this is the only option as the samsungs have there own little problems.
I have 7 months left on my contract and may even keep the HD until someone comes out with a decent snap drap / arm cpu that has HD out on winmo.
HD2, suck my pole..!

It's true that no TV Out is sad, but in which case should it be usefull?
I always have my computer when i want to watch thing on "big" screen...

stoolzo said:
I was an early adopter of the first generation touch HD and was instantly underwhelmed by this "flagship" phone, mainly due to its poor video capabilities and lack of TV out.
So, we on earth have yet again taken a step back?, no tv out, granted the video capabilites are up to scratch but to not offer TV out at this stage is for want of a better word and insult.
The main contenders the iphone and omnia 2 and omnia HD both offer good tv out but HTC have again decided to offer us a cut down "flagship" phone. For me this is the last straw.
Where I cannot move to IPhone as I hate itunes with a passion that should only be reserved for a child killer it is starting to look like this is the only option as the samsungs have there own little problems.
I have 7 months left on my contract and may even keep the HD until someone comes out with a decent snap drap / arm cpu that has HD out on winmo.
HD2, suck my pole..!
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Never needed a TV out on my phone and don't think I ever will. Guess its time to say bye bye! Main reason I stay with HTC is for the overwhelming support on this forum. Good look on finding that with the Omnia.

Wait til the Tegra phones start coming out, then it's more likely to happen.

I think the usefulness of TV out speaks for itself which is why it is already on the main contender flagship phones and on other HTC devices. Watching movies with freinds, showing photo slidehows with family, business presentations etc, the uses are endless.

I don't understand all the emotion surrounding these phones, if you like it you buy if you don't, buy it not. I was disappointed in the TP2 specs, so I did not buy it. Someone wiser than me once said: Don't leave angry, just leave. It's better that way though, right?

One thing i don't understand... You'r Coming to this Forum to say that you Wont buy a hd2? It's like I go to a ford seller to say that I won't buy a ford... So what?

This comes from the frustration I have witht he HD v1 and HTC's dealing with drivers and video performance (still unaddressed). like me a lot of people were hoping this was going to be the phone the HD1 wasnt, disapointment, not anger really.

12aon said:
I don't understand all the emotion surrounding these phones, if you like it you buy if you don't, buy it not. I was disappointed in the TP2 specs, so I did not buy it. Someone wiser than me once said: Don't leave angry, just leave. It's better that way though, right?
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haha, well said. +1

12aon said:
I don't understand all the emotion surrounding these phones, if you like it you buy if you don't, buy it not. I was disappointed in the TP2 specs, so I did not buy it. Someone wiser than me once said: Don't leave angry, just leave. It's better that way though, right?
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+1 here as well.
I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. Yes, the mobile phone market is now about having as many features as possible on 1 device, but how many people make use of all the features? The more features they can cram into one device the more compromises they make over the quality of them all. There's two lists of requirements, 'must haves' and 'nice to haves', video call, TV-out better camera are all part of the nice to have list. HTC has always been a business oriented company focusing on the needs of the business and they have never set out to be the best of the best. It's was only when Samsung and Apple arrived on the scene that everyone demanded HTC to be more consumer focused. HTC are making slow progress to addressing this issue and they'll slowly get there. Look at Blackberries, they're still going strong and most of their phones have half the features we're expecting these days.
So, if you don't like the HD2, don't complain, you either like it or hate it! Move on!

TOUCH HD vs. OMNIA II vs. HD 2
Hello
I'm coming from an ETEN X500 over a N95 for two years and I want to go back to touchscreen now. I know the usage of the HD from a friend of mine, the Iphone and I have played around for 3 Hours last Thursday with the OMNIA II i8000.
The result is, that the OMNIA has TV Out but you can not use this thing in everydays life. Its awfull slow, the UI is horrible and the touchscreen is bad.
The AMOLED is great, ok. But at the end I think Samsung needs about 2 generations of phones to reach the Touch HD. And if the HD 2 is only half as good as the reviews say its much better than the Samsung devices.
The lag of TV-Out is sad anyway.
Bye

stoolzo said:
I was an early adopter of the first generation touch HD and was instantly underwhelmed by this "flagship" phone, mainly due to its poor video capabilities and lack of TV out.
So, we on earth have yet again taken a step back?, no tv out, granted the video capabilites are up to scratch but to not offer TV out at this stage is for want of a better word and insult.
The main contenders the iphone and omnia 2 and omnia HD both offer good tv out but HTC have again decided to offer us a cut down "flagship" phone. For me this is the last straw.
Where I cannot move to IPhone as I hate itunes with a passion that should only be reserved for a child killer it is starting to look like this is the only option as the samsungs have there own little problems.
I have 7 months left on my contract and may even keep the HD until someone comes out with a decent snap drap / arm cpu that has HD out on winmo.
HD2, suck my pole..!
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your posting is just to personal. I saw numerous complaints about lack video out, but I'm sure just a small amount of users like you will be disappointed, but is this a real deal breaker? It doesn't bother me a tiny bit at all. I was disappointed only by the lack of front camera, but I wouldn't make a thread trying to tell everyone HD2 sucks because it doesn't have one for me. How many phones are that perfect so far? HD2 is pretty much the most perfect phone to me and I'm sure to many others that didn't even bother about your complaint here.

12aon said:
I don't understand all the emotion surrounding these phones, if you like it you buy if you don't, buy it not. I was disappointed in the TP2 specs, so I did not buy it. Someone wiser than me once said: Don't leave angry, just leave. It's better that way though, right?
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You are one Cool dude

mallman said:
haha, well said. +1
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Signed!
Another +1

lol, what a load of lovely "emotional" reactions, if you agree with 12aon's post, in that you actually understand what he was saying then some of you should be asking youselves why you bothered to post and did not just ignore my comments...

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shu8i said:
One thing i don't understand... You'r Coming to this Forum to say that you Wont buy a hd2? It's like I go to a ford seller to say that I won't buy a ford... So what?
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lol damn right, +10

Im not buying the HD2 because i dont like the boot screen!

nicelad_uk said:
Never needed a TV out on my phone and don't think I ever will. Guess its time to say bye bye! Main reason I stay with HTC is for the overwhelming support on this forum. Good look on finding that with the Omnia.
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+1
I don't see the need for TV out either...with a 360 and upnp I can stream from any of my laptops etc, and frankly if I'm brining media elsewhere I'm not going to cross my fingers that whereever I go is going to have the right connector (vga vs hdmi vs component vs svideo vs rca etc).
It's too bad that this is such an important thing to you- my real concerns are lack of a d-pad, but even that won't stop me from picking one of these up like free booze at an AA convention.

clearly you all have much more money than I do, when I buy a new gadget, (now lets not pretend it is anything else as if you just wanted a phone you would still have your 10 year old nokia), I want to get my moneys worth. For me to shell out another effective £500+ on a phone it has to be a decent upgrade.. what are we really getting here?, big screen, so what?, same res as hd1, compass, give me a break, speed - granted you get speed but with the right ROM the HD1 is more than adequate to do most things, albeit with a bit of reenocding.

stoolzo said:
clearly you all have much more money than I do, when I buy a new gadget, (now lets not pretend it is anything else as if you just wanted a phone you would still have your 10 year old nokia), I want to get my moneys worth. For me to shell out another effective £500+ on a phone it has to be a decent upgrade.. what are we really getting here?, big screen, so what?, same res as hd1, compass, give me a break, speed - granted you get speed but with the right ROM the HD1 is more than adequate to do most things, albeit with a bit of reenocding.
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I am no HD Owner but from my raph point of perspective this is a pretty decent upgrade and I feel after all this time squeezing the most out of my raph that this phone out of the box doesn't need any squeezing. When I will cook a ROM for this phone I'm going to make sure that everthing that works now is stays that way and loose the extra's.
If you have a chance to test it or check it out, I would recommend doing so you might be a little more suprised then you suspect. That being said there are still a couple of decent devices in HTC's line up, and if you are HTC HD you might just have to hold on to your HD for a bit, as its probably to young for you to throw it aside ,
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Should i buy a Blackstone?

Hello to all
I want to buy a new pda, cause my Diamond is getting slow, but i don't know witch one to buy.
I like Blackstone but i don't know if it's fast with the new rom's and so, or after buying i will regret it.
I know there are new models and so but were i live they are too expensive, so i have to stik with the older ones
Please give me your feedback.

With the coming of windows mobile 7 and nvidia tegra chipset i predict huge technological leaps in the terms of ppcs by late 2010 so if you can wait a few months i believe you'll be rewarded...
As for blackstone, i wouldn't recommend it personally although i have one and currently love it. I'd save money to get something better by mid-late 2010. Time flies

The original ROM is quite fast, but not very advanced. If you install a custom rom a lot of new functions come availible and the speed stays the same. You can also go for nice eyecandy, but then you will end up with a littlebit less speed.
For you to decide....

the Diamond is alomst as fast or as slow as the blackstone.
so i do not recommend you to buy a HD.
I also had a Diamond and changed to Hd.
It has a bigger screen, that is all.
But this is only my opinion.
Good luck.

zenga said:
Hello to all
I want to buy a new pda, cause my Diamond is getting slow, but i don't know witch one to buy.
I like Blackstone but i don't know if it's fast with the new rom's and so, or after buying i will regret it.
I know there are new models and so but were i live they are too expensive, so i have to stik with the older ones
Please give me your feedback.
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Buy HD2, em 12x sem juros.

+1 for the Touch HD2
If you're going for a Windows Mobile phone, that's the one to get.
The HD has the same CPU and RAM as many other HTC phones, the difference is the 3.8" screen (bigger than any other phone on the market except the HD2).
I use WM 6.1 (topix 3.1.2), I found WM 6.5 and Manilla 2.5 too heavy for this hardware. I do not benefit from a colourful and animation-intensive device if it's slow (like using XP vs Vista on a computer with 1 GB of RAM).

z4kn4f31n said:
With the coming of windows mobile 7 and nvidia tegra chipset i predict huge technological leaps in the terms of ppcs by late 2010 so if you can wait a few months i believe you'll be rewarded...
As for blackstone, i wouldn't recommend it personally although i have one and currently love it. I'd save money to get something better by mid-late 2010. Time flies
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I think you are spot on there. I agree with what you say and even though I currently own a Touch HD, I would also love an Touch HD2, especially for the release of Windows 7 but the price is a big factor. I think it's wise to wait until later this year for the release of other PPC devices that will be competitors to the Touch HD2 and see what they are capable of offering. In my opinion, buying a Touch HD now at this point in time would be a step backwards.
Regards.

In my job I make full use of the 'pda' capability of my trusty Touch HD, and I have been a pda user since the very early 1990s. In terms of upgrading, you just need to ask yourself what you will be using it for! Had to hard reset my Touch HD recently and was very choosey about what software I put back on afterwards. I was really surprised how much faster it was. Easy to be seduced by the impressive HD2 but clearly 2010/11 is going to see some REAL reasons for upgrading from anything that does just about all you want now. Be patient and you are bound to feel your hard earned cash will have been well spent.

hmm, HD isnt much over the Diamond, its essentially the same device with a large display, its a wonderful phone and if you had asked me 6 months ago id say go for it but there is no point just now, too much around the corner later this year, at the very least if you cant afford a new PDA you will find the blackstone price drop and thus save you some cash.

dont get a HD especially on contract as the price between the HD and the HD is not significantly large to warranty bypassing the HD2.
Waiting, thats another discussion altogether, nobody really knows what is coming out and when but if u look at how the market works you will see only slighter better phones trickle out, you wont see major steps i believe. Even if a tegra phone coming out they will find some way to handicap it, perhaps reduced codec support or lack of TV out or something like that.
You really only have three choices I can see, 2 if you discount the nexus if you have concerns about android, Iphone or HD2, iphone if you are not a big tweak fan but you like everything to work well and fast, HD2 if you like speed but love to tweak, then again if you didnt you probably wouldnt be on XDA

The HD2 is ridiculously priced atm though unfortunately. Here's hoping to it dropping down fast into non-business user land.

stuntdouble said:
The HD2 is ridiculously priced atm though unfortunately. Here's hoping to it dropping down fast into non-business user land.
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If I have been given a chance to get a new phone, perhaps it would be the HD2 or the Nexus One (Android) the prices of these phones are just the same as my HD when I bought it last Nov 2008...but the hardware specs have been improved

stuntdouble said:
The HD2 is ridiculously priced atm though unfortunately. Here's hoping to it dropping down fast into non-business user land.
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Prices are relative...
kieboy said:
If I have been given a chance to get a new phone, perhaps it would be the HD2 or the Nexus One (Android) the prices of these phones are just the same as my HD when I bought it last Nov 2008...but the hardware specs have been improved
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Agreed, prices are the same as when the HD first came out if not cheaper in some places due to market competition being more fierce now then ever before.
If WM7 doesn't excite you then go Nexus.

HTC HD2 or wait for...?

Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
Reference links:
HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone

Wait for the 5" Dell mini 5 on Android!
I think the new iphone will be very similar in specs to the ipad and it will not have any special '4G' apps. But I could be wrong.

4G is supposed to be the name of the new iPhone... I'm not thinking about new apps, only better specs: display, camera, faster cpu, etc...

By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.

I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone

blastop said:
By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
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You are right my friend, but once more I want to make an attention call for this: iPhone 4G, it's only the name of the device. It doesn't mean it's built for 4th generation networks. At least, it's the name already seen in the source code of the latest updates of iPhone OS. The new iPhone, will be called 4G the same way it could be called 3GSS, or something else...

freyberry said:
I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing. HD2 or Supersonic, really have great displays, but they are uncomfortable big to carry out on your pocket (pants pocket of course).
About Windows 7, let's wait and see. To say the true, I've always been a Linux/MacOS user and fan (I work as IT Security Specialist, so Windows is always a bad work tool), but to be honest, I've never had problems with Windows based mobile devices...
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.

Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing.
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Yeah, NOW... but as I said, by the time the Bravo gets available, you may already have seen WM7 and may not find the Bravo appealing anymore.
You should just wait now, it's a long time until Bravo, iPhone 4G etc. get available and with the speed that smartphones are evolving, what seems appealing now may already be boring with a month.
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
But if you don't mind waiting, just stop wondering now about what you should buy and wait what will happen.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
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Which would make it the best mobile OS
(says someone who has never touched Mac OS X again since the first beta of Windows 7)

freyberry said:
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
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Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7? This is probably the most popular question on the forum about the HD2, and if it really has some "hidden" memory to support it...
About it's size, I tried one in the shop when I was carrying my i780. It is bigger than the i780 and it really feels that big in my pocket, even without the leather case. Bigger than my i780, which is uncomfortable in the pocket (front left pocket of my pants) specially when driving... but I forgive it for the awesome display

Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7?
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The HD2 definitely supports it. It does not need any hidden memory, the official specs are enough. I can promise you this.
What I can not promise, is that HTC will release an official upgrade. If they don't there's still a chance that WM7 for the HD2 will be leaked.
But if you want to be sure, just wait another two weeks, cause it's likely that if they will release an official upgrade, they will announce it at the same time Microsoft annouces WM7.
My advice is: Wait for two weeks, and if you like WM7 and there will be an official upgrade, then buy the HD2.
If you don't like what Microsoft shows at MWC, then you can still think about what device to buy. Right now, wondering about what to buy is just a waste of time, because a lot will change in the next few weeks.

The wait will kill me

Anymore opinions?

JorgeMPVCosta said:
Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
Reference links:
HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone
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whats the point in waiting ? every few monats a new really cool phone come out. and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.

Um, what about the Diamond 3/Obsession, or whatever it will be called???
I'm itching to buy an HD2, I even went and had another play with one today : ) However, there are two things stopping me buying it. One is size, the other is that the lack of an AMOLED display.
At the end of last year I bought an Acer S200 with Snapdragon chip. It was awesome because it was so fast : ) The downside was the lack of people developing stuff for it here on XDA, so when the headphone jack failed after two weeks, I sent it back. The next phone I tried was an Omnia II, which was dog slow compared to the Acer, but, of course, it was a little bit smaller than the Acer and it had a beautiful AMOLED screen...
So, I reckon, if you're unsure of the size, wait until the MWC in a couple of weeks and see what is announced. If HTC release a WinMo device that is the size of the Bravo or smaller, but still has a 3.7" sreen and Snapdragon chip, I'm buying it ; )
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )

If you want a new phone now, buy the HD2 as it is by far the best one out there. If you can wait, there is always something better coming in the future.
But then, if "something better" is finally out, there will probably be another something better if you can wait another while...

Ouzo said:
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
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Don't believe the bull**** people spread on the internet. The HD2 runs WM7 perfectly.

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and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
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What he said. To me from what I've tried android is a big "meh", so it's out. iPhone is even more out for lack of multitasking, closed environment, etc. So that leaves only the HD2. And, good news, I've loved it when trying it. So my order will go out next week

You cannot chase technology and win my friend, whatever you buy now will be old in 4 months time. R&D is always way ahead. Whatever you buy, buy it for your needs and learn to be satisfied, remembering that they will ALWAYS be something new just around the corner, and if you don't adjust your thinking you will always be unhappy as soon as the next thing comes out.

Still trying to decide

Hi Guys , first post and hoping for some help.
I'm due to upgrade this week and am trying to decide between the Desire Hd and Samsung Omnia 7 . I like the idea of Windows 7 and can probably live with no card expansion . Can anyone tell me how the battery life compares between the 2 ?
Can i also ask if loading mp3s i have on my laptop is possible on the Omnia 7 ?
I'd appreciate any advice anyone can offer
Cheers
Darren

Well i get pretty good battery life I have data always on and go on the internet regulary and listen to music. Get a day and a half out of it.
I like Windows Phone 7. Its nice clean and simple but polished. Games and Apps are far superior to anything on Android anyway.
Cant say anything bad about the Desire HD but that the build quality has gone crap compared to the previous desire. Same happened from HD2 to HD7 transittion. I had a HD2 before and now have HD7 and the build quality is not impressive. its a beautiful phone but im scared to break it
My biggest con on Omnia is the 8GB memory. 300 songs and a few Xbox Live Games on your phone and you will be dealing with memory low warning :S
Its managable but one thing that really could have been thought better before going for 8

evolutionqy7 said:
Well i get pretty good battery life I have data always on and go on the internet regulary and listen to music. Get a day and a half out of it.
I like Windows Phone 7. Its nice clean and simple but polished. Games and Apps are far superior to anything on Android anyway.
Cant say anything bad about the Desire HD but that the build quality has gone crap compared to the previous desire. Same happened from HD2 to HD7 transittion. I had a HD2 before and now have HD7 and the build quality is not impressive. its a beautiful phone but im scared to break it
My biggest con on Omnia is the 8GB memory. 300 songs and a few Xbox Live Games on your phone and you will be dealing with memory low warning :S
Its managable but one thing that really could have been thought better before going for 8
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And putting mp3s from your pc is do-able ?

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And putting mp3s from your pc is do-able ?
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Of course! It syncs with the excellent Zune Player (you can download it from Zune.net to have a taste of it).
Zune IS the software that allows for you to sync all your stuff to WP7, pics, music, podcasts, etc...

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Of course! It syncs with the excellent Zune Player (you can download it from Zune.net to have a taste of it).
Zune IS the software that allows for you to sync all your stuff to WP7, pics, music, podcasts, etc...
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Good stuff mate , thank you

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My biggest con on Omnia is the 8GB memory. 300 songs and a few Xbox Live Games on your phone and you will be dealing with memory low warning :S
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That's why I got the 16GB version
As for the battery, I get a day of fairly heavy use easy. That's with both the data-connection (3G) and WiFi on constantly. Definitely better than the HD2 and also the HD7.

Well you can't get the 16gb version in Ireland :S
Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express

Well that's mine despatched , be with me tomorrow i hope

Forzahibs said:
Hi Guys , first post and hoping for some help.
I'm due to upgrade this week and am trying to decide between the Desire Hd and Samsung Omnia 7 . I like the idea of Windows 7 and can probably live with no card expansion . Can anyone tell me how the battery life compares between the 2 ?
Can i also ask if loading mp3s i have on my laptop is possible on the Omnia 7 ?
I'd appreciate any advice anyone can offer
Cheers
Darren
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T-Mobile customer??? Stuck between the only two decent phones they have to offer??
Yeah me too
Damn you T-Mobile..........
Think Im gonna end up with the DHD to be honest, then flash WP7 to my HD2.
The only thing that puts me off the Omnia7......... its a Samsung
Still in two minds though........
Bit of a pointless post I know but this has been annoying me for months now...

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T-Mobile customer??? Stuck between the only two decent phones they have to offer??
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Having tried two HTC models (HD7 and Mozart), the LG Optimus7 and the Samsung Omnia7 I've come to the conclusion that HTC is no longer what they once were. I would rank them, best to worst, Samsung, LG, Mozart, HD7 - all things taken into consideration. Sure, it's still a Samsung, but it's by far the best device out there, especially if you pick up the 16GB model which, if not available where you live, can be imported from Germany for less than what it costs in the UK anyway (as long as you don't get it "free" on contract of course).

conantroutman said:
T-Mobile customer??? Stuck between the only two decent phones they have to offer??
Yeah me too
Damn you T-Mobile..........
Think Im gonna end up with the DHD to be honest, then flash WP7 to my HD2.
The only thing that puts me off the Omnia7......... its a Samsung
Still in two minds though........
Bit of a pointless post I know but this has been annoying me for months now...
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No i'm on Orange , liking the Omnia though

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Having tried two HTC models (HD7 and Mozart), the LG Optimus7 and the Samsung Omnia7 I've come to the conclusion that HTC is no longer what they once were. I would rank them, best to worst, Samsung, LG, Mozart, HD7 - all things taken into consideration. Sure, it's still a Samsung, but it's by far the best device out there, especially if you pick up the 16GB model which, if not available where you live, can be imported from Germany for less than what it costs in the UK anyway (as long as you don't get it "free" on contract of course).
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Getting it free on contract is pretty much the only way I can get a new phone, unless I sell the HD2 and thats never gonna happen.....
I'm judging Samsung purely on the reputation they have for they're Android handsets because WP7 isnt mature enough to do so. Which may be quite unfair on my part I guess.....
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No i'm on Orange , liking the Omnia though
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Ahh right...
I think the line ups are pretty similar since they're owned by the same parent company.

agree. Non of the HTC handsets are what they used to be.
They feel cheap and fragile. Sold my HD7 and sticking with Omnia 7 for now.
The build quality of HD7 was abosolute rubbish. Speaker quality rubbish. Lag in panorama apps on HD7 was bigger. Battery life is shorter than omnia. Button feedback was horrible compared to omnia
I mean i would look at Samsung as having a bad reputation for Android hansets. But they seem to have hit the spot with the Omnia 7
Biggest Cons of Omnia is the slippery coating and then 8GB is too little space.

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Biggest Cons of Omnia is the slippery coating and then 8GB is too little space.
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Agreed, the phone is way to slippery. I bought some skins from GelaSkins which solved the issue (looks great also) but even though they are thin it's caused an issue with my Brodit active car-holder :/