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We all know that Athena is the successor of the Universal. But why is htcphonestore.com listing Universal still for $1100 and Athena for $1500? Why is there such a low price difference? Isn't there a major progress from Universal->Athena? Should the price of Universal now be $600 and Athena $1500?
What do you all think? Is the Universal almost as good as Athena? Maybe something else? Please give technical comments only!
nuclear said:
We all know that Athena is the successor of the Universal. But why is htcphonestore.com listing Universal still for $1100 and Athena for $1500? Why is there such a low price difference? Isn't there a major progress from Universal->Athena? Should the price of Universal now be $600 and Athena $1500?
What do you all think? Is the Universal almost as good as Athena? Maybe something else? Please give technical comments only!
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actually, Athena is not successor of Universal, the successor of Universal is call Omni, it will be out in Q3. Got this confirm from HTC a while ago now
HTC OMNI
wu5262 said:
actually, Athena is not successor of Universal, the successor of Universal is call Omni, it will be out in Q3. Got this confirm from HTC a while ago now
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Hai wu, excuse me for bit of out topic, but you said if Omni is the successor of Universal. SO is that device is exis?
If yes is there any confirmations about the specifications, is the screen real 800x600? If the Omni out you still hold your Athena or you'll change it?
Sorry for many question, but i like to buy a new device (Since I sold my Alpine, and being cheated coz I bought a refurbish of Universal) my budget is only about US $1200 for one device, so if I buy Athena I won't able to upgrade to omni again.
Any sugestion? I miss vibrate, keyboard backlit, earphone piece from athena, but overall how do you think?
Thank you in advanced...
cornelius said:
Hai wu, excuse me for bit of out topic, but you said if Omni is the successor of Universal. SO is that device is exis?
If yes is there any confirmations about the specifications, is the screen real 800x600? If the Omni out you still hold your Athena or you'll change it?
Sorry for many question, but i like to buy a new device (Since I sold my Alpine, and being cheated coz I bought a refurbish of Universal) my budget is only about US $1200 for one device, so if I buy Athena I won't able to upgrade to omni again.
Any sugestion? I miss vibrate, keyboard backlit, earphone piece from athena, but overall how do you think?
Thank you in advanced...
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there are a few thing i am sure of, first, OMNI does exist, it will be out in Q3, and yes screen is 800x600. i can not get other spec to be confirm so i would say it's a bit early to compare Athena and Omini right now. Anyway, i think it's likely i won't go to Omni because of the big screen of Athena, this will depend on people, but i feel like Athena is really suitable for me
Hmmm
wu5262 said:
there are a few thing i am sure of, first, OMNI does exist, it will be out in Q3, and yes screen is 800x600. i can not get other spec to be confirm so i would say it's a bit early to compare Athena and Omini right now. Anyway, i think it's likely i won't go to Omni because of the big screen of Athena, this will depend on people, but i feel like Athena is really suitable for me
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Hmmm. Thanks... now I'm really confused.... Huffff wich one i would buy? Any sugestion?
What the reason so you feel if Athena suite to you?
Buy Athena / wait for omni/ buy Athena / wait for omni...
Still can't decided...
cornelius said:
Hmmm. Thanks... now I'm really confused.... Huffff wich one i would buy? Any sugestion?
What the reason so you feel if Athena suite to you?
Buy Athena / wait for omni/ buy Athena / wait for omni...
Still can't decided...
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if you want the big screen, then go for Athena. That's all i can say at this moment, because the spec of Omni is not confirm. One thing you can be sure of is it doesn't have 5 inch screen.
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if you want the big screen, then go for Athena. That's all i can say at this moment, because the spec of Omni is not confirm. One thing you can be sure of is it doesn't have 5 inch screen.
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Ok... Thanks I'll figure it out..
Athena is a sole device and is not a successor then.... So Omni is going to be way better than Universal. I guess I will now cancel my pre-order of Athena and look out for HTC Omni. I already knew that HTC Omni and HTC Kaiser and HTC Atermis and all these other devices are there. And O2 XDA Flame. O2 XDA Atom Exec versions. Well all these devices are coming. I suggest you wait. I will go for the HTC Omni if it has better spec's. I am going to cancel my pre-order on HTC Advantage. Why is HTC Athena also called HTC Advantage? That sounds really dumb to me! I am cancelling my Pre-order on HTC Advantage right away.
Please let me know when HTC Omni is expected. I dont have my Universal anymore but I found it as a lovely device that met most of my requirements. Now I want something that meets them all and I have a feeling that Omni is just it! ^^.. well if the specs of HTC Advantage > HTC Omni then I will not cancel my pre-order.
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Athena is a sole device and is not a successor then.... So Omni is going to be way better than Universal. I guess I will now cancel my pre-order of Athena and look out for HTC Omni. I already knew that HTC Omni and HTC Kaiser and HTC Atermis and all these other devices are there. And O2 XDA Flame. O2 XDA Atom Exec versions. Well all these devices are coming. I suggest you wait. I will go for the HTC Omni if it has better spec's. I am going to cancel my pre-order on HTC Advantage. Why is HTC Athena also called HTC Advantage? That sounds really dumb to me! I am cancelling my Pre-order on HTC Advantage right away.
Please let me know when HTC Omni is expected. I dont have my Universal anymore but I found it as a lovely device that met most of my requirements. Now I want something that meets them all and I have a feeling that Omni is just it! ^^.. well if the specs of HTC Advantage > HTC Omni then I will not cancel my pre-order.
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firstly, Omni is not going to be out until Q3, so that is at least 5 months waiting. Second, spec of Omni is not confirm yet, all i know for sure is it doesn't have a 5 inch screen. It all depends on what you are looking for. I enjoy my Athena and will not change to Omni because of the smaller screen.
So think carefully what you are really going to use the device for, then decide.
BTW, Athena is the code name of this device, this is a tradition of HTC, they always name their device with a code name when in development. e.g. HTC UNIVERSAL
Advantage is the actually name of the device when it hits market, just like the DOPOD U1000 and T-mobile Ameo.
It'a about you, and what you want from device.
I think wu right, bigger screen on athena...
1. No vibrate: use bluetooth vibrate headset
2. No keyboard backlit, i think i wouln't use at total dark room
I think the prices of both devices don't reflect their value in relation to each other, but in relation to the rest of the market. Both these devices are (still) the top-end of the market and the prices reflect that. The specs of a universal are still worth the kind of money asked, especially if you compare it to a low-end ppc. As to the price of the Athena, if HTC asks any more it will be too expensive for people to buy. The device would then be more expensive than a dedicated UMPC with windows xp.
Universal vs Athena?...You cannot be serious?!!?
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I think the prices of both devices don't reflect their value in relation to each other, but in relation to the rest of the market. Both these devices are (still) the top-end of the market and the prices reflect that. The specs of a universal are still worth the kind of money asked, especially if you compare it to a low-end ppc. As to the price of the Athena, if HTC asks any more it will be too expensive for people to buy. The device would then be more expensive than a dedicated UMPC with windows xp.
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It's not until you own an Athena do you get to appreciate the reason for its seemingly steep price.
The Universal screen, sharp as it is, is seriously lacking now that I have experienced the Athena.
Universal is underpowered comapred to Athena (not noticeable in normal useage - but try something like opening several web pages simultaneously while playing music in the background and answering phone calls!). The Athena can do this no problem...it's a beast of a powerhouse.
The build quality on the Athena is the best I have seen on any Wm device...Period. Solid.
Best screen.
Athena can be used for serious work and serious entertainment. Movies are a joy to watch on this thing. No game yet developed seems worthy enough for this screen.
USB host works beautifully with external USB HDD and full USB keyboard and scrolling functionality of a full USB Mouse.
TV-Out is first rate and so is it's implementation.
Try using Remote Desktop on a 2.8" or 3.5" screen...just not worth the trouble. Now try it on the Athena...Wu and some others can report the UMPC like experience of using Vista or XP Pro via the 5" Athena screen.
Did I mention that the Athena looks great on a 42" LCD or Plasma screen?
No denying it, the Universal was and still is a great device and was ahead of its time 18 months + ago.....but it is no match by any means for the HSDPA enabled heavyweight that the Athena is.
Do I love the Athena? Hell yeah...as far as materialistic gadgets go...this one is the nuts.
Beautifully put and I fully agree
Hello partyppl.
Quick specs are
quote modaco post:
"Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Qualcomm 7201A processor @ 528MHz
512MB ROM / 256MB RAM (+32MB on processor)
WVGA
115mm x 62.8mm x 12mm
'In stores for Santa'
GPS / HSDPA etc. etc.
5 Megapixel camera (no flash)"
Enjoy the pictures.
what about the hardware and os ? will it be compatible with wm7 ?
it looks awsome anyway
that what i think it is?
dream?
*wrong post
That's a nice looking phone. HTC sure has many new and interesting models coming
I love this phone
looks GREAT to me
Finaly, Htc made their own big touch-screen, sure beats iPhone and Xperia (3.5 and 3.0):333
Tech and Os specs would be great !
Taken off of Engadget
I am using Hermes (AT&T). Was very tempted to get Kaiser. And I've been saving money for Touch Pro.... I really hope they will make Touch HD Pro with a slide-out keyboard and normal audio jack (not a mini-USB).
P.S. iPhone sucks!
looks good, kind of like the omnia. and actually, the iphone doesn't suck.
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I am using Hermes (AT&T). Was very tempted to get Kaiser. And I've been saving money for Touch Pro.... I really hope they will make Touch HD Pro with a slide-out keyboard and normal audio jack (not a mini-USB).
P.S. iPhone sucks!
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i don't think that it has an keyboard, its too small
If they ever release a CDMA version i'm getting one. If it has a capacitive touchscreen, i'll be in heaven.
I so want that, I posted earlier and now when I`ve seen specs etc. it looks promising.
I might upgrade my Kaiser to that when time comes
As nice as the phone looks to be, I can't help but say I'm disappointed in HTC. I feel they are oversaturating the market with products and not allowing any one phone to have some sort of longevitiy. This phone makes the Diamond the new Touch Cruise and the Touch Cruise the new Touch. Over time people will realize that if you wait a few months something much better is going to come out from HTC, so you may as well wait for it.
This is really shocking to see so soon after the Diamond, which really hasn't even had a chance to peak in the market if you ask me. Any potential sale they were going to have with the Diamond is probably gone now. HTC needs to consolidate their offerings to put out better spec'd equipment and to give people their money's worth.
But still, nice phone.
Here is what I posted on the other thread with some pictures I am using from the original post over at the other forum...
Here are some more pictures....taken from here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/272214/introducing-the-htc-touch-hd/
halorin said:
As nice as the phone looks to be, I can't help but say I'm disappointed in HTC. I feel they are oversaturating the market with products and not allowing any one phone to have some sort of longevitiy. This phone makes the Diamond the new Touch Cruise and the Touch Cruise the new Touch. Over time people will realize that if you wait a few months something much better is going to come out from HTC, so you may as well wait for it.
This is really shocking to see so soon after the Diamond, which really hasn't even had a chance to peak in the market if you ask me. Any potential sale they were going to have with the Diamond is probably gone now. HTC needs to consolidate their offerings to put out better spec'd equipment and to give people their money's worth.
But still, nice phone.
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I kinda feel the same way. I was just getting ready to upgrade my Sprint Touch for the soon to be released Touch Diamond, but then I see this which is just about perfect for my needs.
I'll probably still get the Touch Diamond for now and plan to upgrade next in 2009 to a WM7 device, well unless this gets a capacitive touchscreen then it'll have to be mine.
EliteXen said:
I kinda feel the same way. I was just getting ready to upgrade my Sprint Touch for the soon to be released Touch Diamond, but then I see this which is just about perfect for my needs.
I'll probably still get the Touch Diamond for now and plan to upgrade next in 2009 to a WM7 device, well unless this gets a capacitive touchscreen then it'll have to be mine.
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Notice how the baby does not have a joystick?
How are you going to Scroll Zoom without that Capacitive JoyPad?
Not to start the Rumour Mill or anything but..... Maybe you should be a nice boy so Santa takes good care of you
Just let me dream a bit here.
agree, cannot imagine how to use windows mobile without d-pad? is it a fault?
Really a nice model!
Only problem I see, there is no keyboard... but still is a good candidate
Screen is 3.?" right?
I've got to say I love my HD. Almost everything about it... The big let down for me is the camera. I can get some fantastic shots out in the open during the day. But go inside and introduce people to shot and its a crock of ****. I've got the topaz cam cab installed but it makes little difference. Nearly all pictures of my kids come out blurry.
So, I've started looking around for what to get next. Sadly, at the moment, I dont seem to be able to find anything that comes close to my expectations. That Toshiba TG01 sounds good, but I hate the look of it. I like the look of the HTC Hero, but reviews let it down, saying its essentially a magic with a style upgrade.
What are other people considering after their Touch HD's?
The Omnia II looks like a great phone and would be the phone I would upgrade to, but since its not a HTC phone it gets no XDA support which could be a big blow (is for me). If your okay with that, I'd recommended the Omnia II.
It feels as if we have come to the end of the road whit the Blackstone,
yet there is nothing new at the horison.
The next thing I expect from a phone is multitouch, still only iPhone
has that to offer. Isnt that strange?
Basicly Id like a HTC Hero whit better hardware, multitouch and something new...
Read about nVidia haveing a new better chipset and prosessor.
When will that hit the market?
I agree with you KB, lack of XDA support is a big no no for me as well.
Ethania, pardon me being a newb, but what defines a multitouch device?
Which current HTC product has the best camera?
I'm looking for something with mindows mo/symbian, better camera with flash, no bigger than the touch hd and lots of programs to play with.
Currently looking at the Omnia 2, Omnia HD, N97/86 or waiting for HTC to make a phone with a decent camera. I played with a mates SE C905 yesterday and I could see myself going for the Omnia 2 or Omnia HD for the camera - miles better than anything on a HTC device.
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Ethania, pardon me being a newb, but what defines a multitouch device?
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I would say:
A device which tracks more than one point on the screen simultaniously.
How does that sound? Maybe Im forgetting some important technical term,
but for us mortals, I think this is enough
i wish id held out for an n97 having been a nokia man for years naturally i wanted a n97 but im on o2 and they dont want to sell it because here in the uk that's who you get an iphone with, so i got a touch hd and im deeply disappointed no 3d graphics, crap camera, no native networking/file sharing support, slow wifi transfer speeds, crap video playback, poor music player all things i could do out of the box without hasstle on my old 1st gen n95! not to mention its SLOW!!!
i shouldn't have to hack n mod my phone to make it work reasonably
touch hd for sale 2 months old good as new !!lol!!
sorry if im ranting just for my first winmob im not impressed
matt_not_andrew said:
I'm looking for something with mindows mo/symbian, better camera with flash, no bigger than the touch hd and lots of programs to play with.
Currently looking at the Omnia 2, Omnia HD, N97/86 or waiting for HTC to make a phone with a decent camera. I played with a mates SE C905 yesterday and I could see myself going for the Omnia 2 or Omnia HD for the camera - miles better than anything on a HTC device.
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If you don't mind waiting, the HTC Firestone/Leo is suppose to come this year and is supposed to be the successor to the BlackStone/HD. I think it upgrades all of the hardware.
www.zii.com
kevin666 said:
www.zii.com
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Looks good, but what the hell?
Can u put win mob on it? Is it android only?
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www.zii.com
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I thought the Zii Plaszma was just a media player? like an ipod touch, so no phone...
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If you don't mind waiting, the HTC Firestone/Leo is suppose to come this year and is supposed to be the successor to the BlackStone/HD. I think it upgrades all of the hardware.
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Thank you Killer Bee, this is exactly what Im looking for
Hopefully the camera will be better in low light situs than the touch HDs cam.
The Leo looks effing brilliant
I like the Omnia 2 but couldn't stand the dangling stylus! Why can't they build it into the device!
I like the HTC design but is disappointed with its quality. My HD has to go back to service twice and the service centre is in another state so the turnaround is slow.
After sales service is important for me and I understand there is a Samsung walk-in service centre here in Sydney Australia.
The NEXT PHONE...
Sony Ericsson Xperia X3 (Rachael)...
Excellent Now I have two to choose from when they arrive, the X3 and the Leo
To be fair Ive always got on well with Sonys. The cameras are always tip top on them.
walkin service sounds like a winner - I like the fact that there are many SE ad Nokia centres around the UK but I'm yet to see a drop in HTC one - although their base is in Milton Keynes which is in the next county - still too far and too many annoying roundabouts!
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The Zii isn't a phone though.
did a quick research and I think there are three or maybe 4 devices to wait for -- SE X2 , SE X3 , HTC Leo -- theyre all almost equal by spec except Leo has more ram (screen size doesnt count ) the fourth device (60% that Im wrong) could be the rumored HTC device with Nvidia chipset-- I have a big "I dont know or Im confused" about that device, cuz maybe its the Leo with the chipset!!!
BTW: what happened to those rumors about microsoft phone with tegra??
sorry - double post - some connection issues!
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BTW: what happened to those rumors about microsoft phone with tegra??
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They were just that, rumours.
The upcoming Zune HD will use the Tegra chipset but, like the Zii that was linked-to on the previous page, it's just a media player.
Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
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HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone
Wait for the 5" Dell mini 5 on Android!
I think the new iphone will be very similar in specs to the ipad and it will not have any special '4G' apps. But I could be wrong.
4G is supposed to be the name of the new iPhone... I'm not thinking about new apps, only better specs: display, camera, faster cpu, etc...
By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
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You are right my friend, but once more I want to make an attention call for this: iPhone 4G, it's only the name of the device. It doesn't mean it's built for 4th generation networks. At least, it's the name already seen in the source code of the latest updates of iPhone OS. The new iPhone, will be called 4G the same way it could be called 3GSS, or something else...
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I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing. HD2 or Supersonic, really have great displays, but they are uncomfortable big to carry out on your pocket (pants pocket of course).
About Windows 7, let's wait and see. To say the true, I've always been a Linux/MacOS user and fan (I work as IT Security Specialist, so Windows is always a bad work tool), but to be honest, I've never had problems with Windows based mobile devices...
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing.
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Yeah, NOW... but as I said, by the time the Bravo gets available, you may already have seen WM7 and may not find the Bravo appealing anymore.
You should just wait now, it's a long time until Bravo, iPhone 4G etc. get available and with the speed that smartphones are evolving, what seems appealing now may already be boring with a month.
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
But if you don't mind waiting, just stop wondering now about what you should buy and wait what will happen.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
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Which would make it the best mobile OS
(says someone who has never touched Mac OS X again since the first beta of Windows 7)
freyberry said:
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
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Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7? This is probably the most popular question on the forum about the HD2, and if it really has some "hidden" memory to support it...
About it's size, I tried one in the shop when I was carrying my i780. It is bigger than the i780 and it really feels that big in my pocket, even without the leather case. Bigger than my i780, which is uncomfortable in the pocket (front left pocket of my pants) specially when driving... but I forgive it for the awesome display
Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7?
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The HD2 definitely supports it. It does not need any hidden memory, the official specs are enough. I can promise you this.
What I can not promise, is that HTC will release an official upgrade. If they don't there's still a chance that WM7 for the HD2 will be leaked.
But if you want to be sure, just wait another two weeks, cause it's likely that if they will release an official upgrade, they will announce it at the same time Microsoft annouces WM7.
My advice is: Wait for two weeks, and if you like WM7 and there will be an official upgrade, then buy the HD2.
If you don't like what Microsoft shows at MWC, then you can still think about what device to buy. Right now, wondering about what to buy is just a waste of time, because a lot will change in the next few weeks.
The wait will kill me
Anymore opinions?
JorgeMPVCosta said:
Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
Reference links:
HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone
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whats the point in waiting ? every few monats a new really cool phone come out. and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
Um, what about the Diamond 3/Obsession, or whatever it will be called???
I'm itching to buy an HD2, I even went and had another play with one today : ) However, there are two things stopping me buying it. One is size, the other is that the lack of an AMOLED display.
At the end of last year I bought an Acer S200 with Snapdragon chip. It was awesome because it was so fast : ) The downside was the lack of people developing stuff for it here on XDA, so when the headphone jack failed after two weeks, I sent it back. The next phone I tried was an Omnia II, which was dog slow compared to the Acer, but, of course, it was a little bit smaller than the Acer and it had a beautiful AMOLED screen...
So, I reckon, if you're unsure of the size, wait until the MWC in a couple of weeks and see what is announced. If HTC release a WinMo device that is the size of the Bravo or smaller, but still has a 3.7" sreen and Snapdragon chip, I'm buying it ; )
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
If you want a new phone now, buy the HD2 as it is by far the best one out there. If you can wait, there is always something better coming in the future.
But then, if "something better" is finally out, there will probably be another something better if you can wait another while...
Ouzo said:
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
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Don't believe the bull**** people spread on the internet. The HD2 runs WM7 perfectly.
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and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
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What he said. To me from what I've tried android is a big "meh", so it's out. iPhone is even more out for lack of multitasking, closed environment, etc. So that leaves only the HD2. And, good news, I've loved it when trying it. So my order will go out next week
You cannot chase technology and win my friend, whatever you buy now will be old in 4 months time. R&D is always way ahead. Whatever you buy, buy it for your needs and learn to be satisfied, remembering that they will ALWAYS be something new just around the corner, and if you don't adjust your thinking you will always be unhappy as soon as the next thing comes out.
So I've been using an HD2 for a few months, and I absolutely love it, being able to run Phone 7, Android, Ubuntu, and just having so much freedom with it. However, it is an aging device, and while it hasn't had any problems for me as of yet, I'm still considering what my next device will be. My question is: are there any phones out as of now, or to be released soon, that are/could be the next HD2? I mean, I also have a Touchpad, which as of now seems to be heading towards HD2 awesomeness, but I can't quite fit that in my pocket. Any suggestions/thoughts?
Yea I want to know too. I also have an HTC HD2 and a Touchpad. The HTC HD2 is getting really old and the battery life isn't up to par with current smartphones.
In my opinion, there will be no other phone as hackable as the HD2 with the ability to run multiple Operating Systems. Windows Phone is just starting to pickup but give it sometime as it will slowly be hackable. We got no other choice other than Android, Iphone or (Correct me if im wrong) Nokia Meego. I will just wait for next year and wait what HTC or Nokia will bring us.
Yea I've been due for a upgrade for months, just not anything I've seen worth 2years.
Well, if you guys are considering ditching your HD2s drop me a line ;-)
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Well, if you guys are considering ditching your HD2s drop me a line ;-)
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Ha, I browsed Craigslist for a month waiting for a decent price one, then got damn lucky and bought one off some guy LNIB and unlocked for $85 USD. Such a great phone at a great price.
Anyways, there's that Phone 7 Nokia phone coming out soon, the Lumia I think it is? Do you guys think there's any chance for that being super hacked? It seems like a possible contender....
I don't know, I still have my nokia e71 unlocked, the first phone in the States with a front facing camera, and that was three years ago, but after a 4.3inch screen of the HD2, I cant see myself with a smaller screen. So the nokia is a no go for me.
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So I've been using an HD2 for a few months, and I absolutely love it, being able to run Phone 7, Android, Ubuntu, and just having so much freedom with it. However, it is an aging device, and while it hasn't had any problems for me as of yet, I'm still considering what my next device will be. My question is: are there any phones out as of now, or to be released soon, that are/could be the next HD2? I mean, I also have a Touchpad, which as of now seems to be heading towards HD2 awesomeness, but I can't quite fit that in my pocket. Any suggestions/thoughts?
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I have the same issue as you, one month ago; I switched on Sensation Black, a very good phone for daily usage (regardless its battery issues) but, I manage to keep also the HD2 which is the most tweak-able device I've ever used.
best regards
I'm feeling left behind now that most high end phones are dual core, and quad core are right around the corner! Not that I need that kind of power, I'm just afraid that stock Android will start to lag on the HD2 and I'll have to upgrade [ or be stuck with a slow phone :O ]
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So I've been using an HD2 for a few months, and I absolutely love it, being able to run Phone 7, Android, Ubuntu, and just having so much freedom with it. However, it is an aging device, and while it hasn't had any problems for me as of yet, I'm still considering what my next device will be. My question is: are there any phones out as of now, or to be released soon, that are/could be the next HD2? I mean, I also have a Touchpad, which as of now seems to be heading towards HD2 awesomeness, but I can't quite fit that in my pocket. Any suggestions/thoughts?
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Dear,
try to check the SonyEricsson Arc, it's very nice one
The Arc is a nice phone, but its not a flagship device like the hd2 was when it was first released.
As for a phone worth upgrading to, there are none that fit the bill just yet. I'm personally waiting for Qualcomm's S4 quad core CPU (2.5Ghz per core, each core running at 25% power of the snapdragon in the hd2) to be released into a phone before I upgrade. Theres quite a bit of waiting involved, however. I think the dual-core variant is already being shipped to manufacturers, and the CES conference in February should release more information.
FYI, the rumour mill is already at work regarding these chips - http://androidandme.com/2011/11/news/rumor-first-28nm-snapdragon-s4-devices-to-arrive-by-february/
First quad core device codenamed HTC Edge (running Tegra 3 quad core @ 1.5Ghz per core) - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/11/htc-nvidia-quad-core-tegra-3/
Kusay said:
Dear,
try to check the SonyEricsson Arc, it's very nice one
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I actually love the Arc ROM available for the HD2, and I would consider an Arc [ or the Arc HD], only thing is that I don't think they're available to us here in the US...or is it called something else here?
WOW - that HTC Edge device looks awesome - would love a windows phone with similar spec.
Maybe last WP7 device will be next HD2? (if they switch to W8)
I don't feel the need to replace my HD2 yet, but I'm still looking after "new HD2", to see what might be worthwhile updating later. But I'm yet to see something like that.
Maybe it will come, after HD2 gets really old (when majority of games and heavy apps will not run smooth) and start loosing developers at very fast rate. After all, developers will have to go somewhere. Let's just hope that they will all move to same device.
See samsung galaxy tab sII. Number 1 in many reviews.
In fact, although HD2 is stable at android, wm6.5, wp7,
but it more like a toy...
if you need stablest communication, you may buy a nokia....
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See samsung galaxy tab sII. Number 1 in many reviews.
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Do you mean galaxy tab or galaxy s2? If first, we are looking for phone here.
And I don't care about reviews. I'm looking for must customizable and developed phone, not necessarily best one.
So far from I have seen the only other phone that looks like it might be competition is the Galaxy sII.
But, I have had a horrible experience with the last one(A true POS - the Vibrant).
Yet the new one looks pretty promising. . . . Maybe
But, I just can't swing a close to 500 Dollar price tag.
Here in the UK the SGSII is still too expensive SIM free, considering how long it has been out. If it were 50% cheaper I would buy one to tide me over...
Other than that, the jury is out for me. Every time I see a new handset announced that interests me, the manufacturer screws it up by omitting something that is important for me that I already take for granted - e.g a MicroSD card slot (Micro SDXC is the way forward - especially once I start to watch hi-def movies on my phone and stream to my tv).
I'd also like the same size screen or slightly bigger, but in a smaller device. It will happen in time I'm sure but I'm amazed how long it is taking. Why are so many OEMs are focusing solely on the thickness of the device? Okay, so the Razr (or part of it) is super thin, but it's wider than our HD2 for goodness sake!?!?
Finally.....I like buttons. There, I said it, my shame is out in the open. I remember when just about every hardware button on a device could be programmed for both short and long presses. Notification LEDs rock too. Oh dear, now I have publicly humiliated myself completely.... ; )
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Finally.....I like buttons. There, I said it, my shame is out in the open. I remember when just about every hardware button on a device could be programmed for both short and long presses. Notification LEDs rock too. Oh dear, now I have publicly humiliated myself completely.... ; )
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So true, I don't like having a single button to wake the phone up. Even the iPhone has 2.