Hardware USA ATT 3g capable? (looking for confirmation?) - Touch HD General

Hi,
Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not blackstone is truely 3g capable and it will just take some software effort to tweak/enable 3g support?
Thanks.
EDIT: sorry, I'm in the us and I always forget. let me clarify, does it support 850/1900 ? Essentially, is it possible by only modifying the software to make it work on ATT 3g network for the data?

joshjdevl said:
Hi,
Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not blackstone is truely 3g capable and it will just some software effort to tweak/enable 3g support?
Thanks.
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what do you mean truly capable? yes it is 3g. it is advertised as 3g. and i have used it last week.

erm... if you mean by video call, i dont know, if you mean by download speed, yes.

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100​

his asking about US! bands for 3G! ... if someone has figured out a way to do it or not?

tyronne1126 said:
his asking about US! bands for 3G! ... if someone has figured out a way to do it or not?
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Not yet.....
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I've had my Touch HD in the California Bay Area for about a week. Lately, the G icon has appeared way more often. In fact, today I watch as I walked out doors for 15 minutes to lunch with the G symbol displayed. Previously, I thought it was bad signal that randomly showed 3G while it was searching for a network. But I am seeing the G icon is areas of known good reception. I'm on the ATT network.
Maybe there's hope.

G stands for GPRS, which is actually worse than EDGE, but probably the phone did use EDGE, phone just doesnt have own icon for that one. Available icons are G, 3G, H, from lowest to fastest: GPRS/EDGE, 3G, HDSPA/HSUPA

Vinski- said:
G stands for GPRS, which is actually worse than EDGE, but probably the phone did use EDGE, phone just doesnt have own icon for that one. Available icons are G, 3G, H, from lowest to fastest: GPRS/EDGE, 3G, HDSPA/HSUPA
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That's incorrect. There is an E icon for EDGE (I see it right now). I guess there are 4 icons. G, E, 3G, and H.

shortcut3d said:
That's incorrect. There is an E icon for EDGE (I see it right now). I guess there are 4 icons. G, E, 3G, and H.
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Yeah ur'e right, I've seen it too, my bedroom i only get EDGE connection, totally forgot
Thanks for correcting!

Related

Determined to shine some light on 3G "850" working on X1i

First, for anyone interested in the subject here is a little list of threads I found discussing the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4579528
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442144
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2888831
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2843884
As you can see, there seems to be a lot of contradictory information from seemingly knowledgeable people.
My goal is to find a way to get the X1i on Rogers' 850 band they use in most places where they advertise 3G coverage. This might also be beneficial to some AT&T users as I believe they use the same bands.
I live in a suburb of Montreal. I never get anything better than EDGE and same goes when I am in class on the island of Montreal. However, when I go out once in a while and end up in downtown, in my drunken stupor I notice a little 3G symbol where the E used to be... Ha! My guess is that Rogers is using 850MHz all over the place and 1900MHz downtown. It would make more sense because '850' is better for covering vast areas that aren't so populated and '1900' is better at covering densely populated areas (downtown!).
My phone uses the Sony Ericsson supplied ROM for UK (OEM R3..) with a the 1.17 radio found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565182 .
Here's something I discovered that triggered the spark:
-press the call button (get to the dialer)
-press menu (bottom right)
-options
-band
I am now presented with a box to chose my GSM/UMTS band:
"Auto"
"GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)"
"GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)"
"UMTS(2100)"
UMTS 1900 and 850?? Well well well...
Okay...still EDGE... Another phone (Samsung) supplied by Rogers has 3G right beside me.
Come on people, this really shows that the ROM is intended for a quad band phone. Plus there was a thread that I cannot find anymore with posted PDF's of the phone's chipset specs and it mentioned nothing of the phone being physically different between the X1i and X1a in terms of networking...
I really want to get the ball rolling on this because I have yet to see any solid proof that the X1i cannot do UMTS 850.
you sir, are my savior. thank you for posting and starting this thread. i myself have an X1i in the states and have been reading and reading about this for months on end with lots of conflicting information.
i can connect to HSDPA and Edge network, but never 3G. ONE TIME i saw the 3G logo for about 2 seconds, then it switched over to HSDPA...... i just can't stand the super duper slow edge network
but HSDPA is faster than 3g is it not??
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but HSDPA is faster than 3g is it not??
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correct, but HSDPA doesn't cover everywhere. in some deadspots i'm only on Edge, and i always wonder if i could get 3G instead.....
@ Jonny4911 : HSDPA IS TO 3G what EDGE is to GPRS...that's a good analogy I can think of. Yes, it is faster than regular 3G.
@ asayamalaka : If you have HSDPA, you shouldn't be worrying about 3G Or maybe you meant something else? This little utility should tell you about your connection speed (just type in the address in your phone's browser) : http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Until the devs / savvy guys and girls chime in, it would help a lot if anyone can contribute more interesting links to this thread. I am particularly looking for the those PDF's from Qualcomm but I can't find them anymore...
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asayamalaka said:
correct, but HSDPA doesn't cover everywhere. in some deadspots i'm only on Edge, and i always wonder if i could get 3G instead.....
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Oh... I see. Have you tried what's in the first post with the phone setup? See if it helps...
Look with your eyes and not your mouth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4373262&postcount=12
Hannigan174 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4373262&postcount=12
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Hannigan is right with this link, in that you cannot force the X1i to use HSDPA/HSPA+ on the 850mhz band, because it is not in the hardware. With all of the knowledgeable people out there, if it was possible to change it by flashing/hacking/etc., then it would have been done by now. I don't believe that we'll see 850mhz HSPA+ on our X1i's.
That being said, I myself have noticed my lil' ol' X1i receiving the "H" symbol while in the boonies (far away from the downtown core). I believe this is because there have been reports that Rogers is ramping up their support for HSPA+ on the 1900mhz band, in preparation for the Olympics out west. If this is the case, then the ODD time that your phone does not find the 850mhz band (or 1900mhz is more prevalent/strong), then it will hop on that frequency and you'll be able to use HSDPA.
What I was looking for, was not a hack to enable 3G on the X1i's 850mhz band, but rather some kind of "band preference" setting where you could force phone to look for and connect to the 1900mhz band over the 850mhz band (or even disable 850mhz all together, but that might give us less reception). As far as I know (and have been hunting the net), this isn't quite possible.
I am thinking that our (well, specifically mine because of where I live), only hope is that if Rogers continues to grow their 1900mhz network which supports HSDPA, and hopefully our X1i's will choose that network over the 850mhz one. My only worry with this is that the phone might see both frequencies, and pick the 850mhz one because it has more penetration in densely packed areas, making it the primary choice for the phone (since the 1900mhz signal would probably be weaker).
Anyways, I'm speculating a bit, as well as reporting the facts that I've heard from users on this forum and others (HowardForums has a topic open as well).
Let's hopefully continue to keep this thread going as a base reference for our issue here, because getting 3G/HSDPA on our X1i's would SIGNIFICANTLY improve our usability!
@andreitu just to clear one thing up for you, the X1i is a quad band phone, however the quad band is only in reference to GSM bands and does not apply to UMTS bands. The X1i is only Tri band UMTS...
To anyone getting the HSDPA in the US with an X1i, it's because the area you are in is served by a UMTS 1900 enabled cell. (i'm in dallas and am almost always on HSDPA on AT&T)...
Also to answer another point which was raised in both in this thread and in this one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4373262#post4373262
On AT&T you will almost neevr see just a 3G connection, since AT&T has performed an upgrade t all base stations that enables HSDPA for 3G - so that everyone gets the fast speed possible when connected to 3G...!
scar45 said:
Hannigan is right with this link
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It wasn't just a link, I was quoting myself. It was a link to something I already said in another thread that covered the EXACT same thing.
Maybe I have been here too long, but I am starting to get irritated by seeing the same questions numerous times. I will at least give the thread starter some credit for showing an attempt to look at other threads first, but please do multiple google searches related to your subject before starting a thread.
This question was asked a lot when the phone was new. The 1900/850 option in Phone Settings is just a hardcoded dropdown. It does not magically enable WCDMA on 850MHz on the X1i, the hardware cannot do it.
You can receive 1900MHz signals because the X1i is tri-band 900/1800/2100 (even though the drop down does not indicate so).
In future, please, for the love of god, use search!
rwholden said:
On AT&T you will almost neevr see just a 3G connection, since AT&T has performed an upgrade t all base stations that enables HSDPA for 3G - so that everyone gets the fast speed possible when connected to 3G...!
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i figured this much but wasn't 100% sure. good to know, thanks
I live in california, i also have the x1i, and i have sometimes seen the 3G for like two seconds too. From reading the threads i have noticed that in deed H is faster than 3G, and myself i get H the whole time while in my room but when i go to my friends house downtown i get a "full H reception signal" and oh man dat is even faster than my brothers HTC Fuze>
azteca85 said:
I live in california, i also have the x1i, and i have sometimes seen the 3G for like two seconds too. From reading the threads i have noticed that in deed H is faster than 3G, and myself i get H the whole time while in my room but when i go to my friends house downtown i get a "full H reception signal" and oh man dat is even faster than my brothers HTC Fuze>
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oh man, words can't even describe how fast full blown H is. i think i clocked it at 1mb/sec on a speedtest last week...makes my roommates iphone 3Gs look like a toy. i've always known it was faster than Edge and 3G, just wasn't sure about the 3G till now
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oh man, words can't even describe how fast full blown H is. i think i clocked it at 1mb/sec on a speedtest last week...makes my roommates iphone 3Gs look like a toy. i've always known it was faster than Edge and 3G, just wasn't sure about the 3G till now
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Which is ironic since the iPhone 3GS is HSPA (7.2Mbps) capable...lol. HSPA is fast though. I regularly get between 1.5Mbps and 2.2Mbps here in Raleigh, NC.

The G is showing up..and I am on AT&T

So I looked down at my phone last night and instead of the usual E hanging out above my bars, there is a G. I am on AT&T...how is this possible???
Does the G mean something other than 3G? (2G? I thought that was Edge...hence the E).
Sadly, it means GPRS. Even slower than EDGE.
gunnner said:
Sadly, it means GPRS. Even slower than EDGE.
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That is sad...what would 3G look like? I am guessing maybe a 3 and a G?
Thanks for the info!
you would be correct. 3G
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
boxmander said:
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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On a theme you can change the 3G icon to the H and make believe
I'm surprised he got G thought that was impossible to still get that after seeing all those A&TT commercials about coverage.
on cyan's rom I go from 3g to H alot during the day. Where i am at im mostly on H.
Ace42 said:
On a theme you can change the 3G icon to the H and make believe
I'm surprised he got G thought that was impossible to still get that after seeing all those A&TT commercials about coverage.
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hey, G is still coverage!
HSDPA is actually still a part of 3G, the display icon when in use is not enabled by default likely because it would confuse the holy living CRAP out of the masses (and still confuses a great deal of XDA'ers). H is more like 3.5G. Rom's like CM5 have enabled it so that when HSDPA is in use, the 3G icon changes to H, and it goes back to 3G again when UMTS is in use.
CDMA networks have a technology (spectrum) limitation that requires them to move to 4G (WiMax or LTE) sooner than GSM providers. Right now I believe Verizon is building out LTE, and Sprint is building out WiMax.
Personally, I'll be happy when the carriers put in the backbone necessary everywhere to support the wireless speeds.
boxmander said:
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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more like
GPRS is still 2G, while EDGE is 2.5G, like how there is 3G and 3.5G(HSDPA)
for all you AT&T and Verizon people here... watch this vid...
http://gizmodo.com/5473135/man-confuses-reality-with-a-verizon-commercial
I'm curious if.the custom ROM's enable the H icon only or if they actually enable HSDPA. Reason I ask is because I'm only getting UMTS- like speeds and I've heard others mention they're getting much faster speeds in my area.
j.bruha said:
I'm curious if.the custom ROM's enable the H icon only or if they actually enable HSDPA. Reason I ask is because I'm only getting UMTS- like speeds and I've heard others mention they're getting much faster speeds in my area.
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when u see the H you are indeed using hspa. even if you dont have a custom rom you may still be using it, you just dont get an icon because it would confuse the average consumer as stated by someone else in this thread.

Anyone ? currently on Tmobile with a HD2 getting 3G? or Edge?

I'm wondering if there is anyone that has an HD2 that is on Tmobile.
What data, EDGE or 3G, are you getting.
I understand Tmobile uses 1700 & 2100, and that there are other treads that have said the current version available are not suppost to work on Tmobile.
If there is someone!
If you would please, I would like to know what some of you registry keys contain for what ever service you get. Please specify.
These are the keys I'm asking about
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\BandType
ItemName1
ItemName2
ItemName3
ItemName4
I'm currently using a HD2 test phone for Tmobile in the US (it has a splash screen when it boots up. You know... "Stick Together").
It does work with 3g and EDGE. I'm scared to flash a new ROM because I'm not sure I'll continue to get 3g. But in answer to your registry questions... Here is what is in my reg:
ItemName1 = Auto
ItemName2 = GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
ItemName3 = GSM(1900+850)
ItemName4 = UMTS(2100+900)
theisdept I'm curious if this helps you. please let me know.
And if anyone knows if I can keep 3g in the US on Tmo with a cooked ROM, let me know. Should I look for a ROM that won't change my Radio?
3G is hardware related. So if you change roms, it won't affect your 3g connectivity. I wasn't even aware any versions of the HD2 worked on T-Mobile's 3g network yet. You are one lucky man! I can't wait to get my hands on the hd2
I'm always confused about this.
Is the HD2 in Edge mode when you see the H in the bar?
Also. Is Edge faster or slower than 3G?
Fuse8499 said:
3G is hardware related. So if you change roms, it won't affect your 3g connectivity. I wasn't even aware any versions of the HD2 worked on T-Mobile's 3g network yet. You are one lucky man! I can't wait to get my hands on the hd2
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Thanks for the advice.
I do consider myself lucky. I just know someone who knows someone... I heard the Tmous version will have more ram when it is released (rumor = march 24th). It is a sweet device already.
htc-hd2 said:
I'm always confused about this.
Is the HD2 in Edge mode when you see the H in the bar?
Also. Is Edge faster or slower than 3G?
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normally you'll see edge when a phone is on edge and 3g when a phone is on 3g not sure about on the hD2 or other phones.
thats just my experience with the g1 and mytouch
and 3g > Edge
H > 3g > e > g
mazzarin said:
H > 3g > e > g
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Even more confused now...
So.. Is H the fastest, or G ?
I got 3G on ATT in some areas in dallas
htc-hd2 said:
Even more confused now...
So.. Is H the fastest, or G ?
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H = HSPA = 3.5G (fastest, this is a bolt-on to 3G. Your voice is '3G', your data is '3.5G')
3G = UMTS = 3G
E = EDGE = 2.5G (Bolt-on to G. Your voice is '2G', your data is '2.5G')
G = GPRS = 2G (slowest)
If you see H then it is in hsdpa - 7.2mbps. I have seen this.
If you see 3 then it is in 3G I presume - 384kbps. I have not seen this icon personally yet as 3G always turns to H when i try to get data.
E for edge - 128kbps or so. quite slow but ok for email. I have seen this.
Gsm - xxx??? dunno, but slow - I have seen this as G.
The phone stays in 3G mode until data is needed then it flicks into H mode.
pokeycd said:
I'm currently using a HD2 test phone for Tmobile in the US (it has a splash screen when it boots up. You know... "Stick Together").
It does work with 3g and EDGE. I'm scared to flash a new ROM because I'm not sure I'll continue to get 3g. But in answer to your registry questions... Here is what is in my reg:
ItemName1 = Auto
ItemName2 = GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
ItemName3 = GSM(1900+850)
ItemName4 = UMTS(2100+900)
theisdept I'm curious if this helps you. please let me know.
And if anyone knows if I can keep 3g in the US on Tmo with a cooked ROM, let me know. Should I look for a ROM that won't change my Radio?
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Why is there no 1700 (aws) band listed in your registry as this is needed for Tmous. Not saying you are lying, but I'd like to see some speedtest results while you are on Tmo 3g.
Thank you mazzarin and chris_ah1,
All is clear to me now. When I use network access (exept wifi) it will alway go from 3G to H, and when done back to 3G
reocej said:
Why is there no 1700 (aws) band listed in your registry as this is needed for Tmous. Not saying you are lying, but I'd like to see some speedtest results while you are on Tmo 3g.
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I don't know why there's no 1700. This isn't a european phone. It's a test phone for Tmobile USA. I know someone who works at HTC in America. They let me use it. It doesn't have the official release rom. I've even flashed a custom rom, and it still has 3g. The speedtest below is actually with my laptop tethered via USB cord to my HD2. If anyone wants 3g with their HD2, I'd suggest waiting until Tmobile USA releases it, as I gather that it is entirely hardware related. I also heard from Tmobile tech support that the US version will have more RAM. I don't know if the Tech was referring to the 576MB ram that we can all get right now with the latest Radio (2.08.50.08_2)
Here's the speed test results:
EDIT: I've seen a spec sheet on the web for the Tmous version. It is claiming 576MB of RAM, which is already available on most units (my test phone included). But according to the leaked spec sheet, the ROM is doubling to 1GB for the Tmobile versions. We'll have to wait and see if this is true.

for those with network signal (possible help)

just recently a guy posted about the *#*#4636#*#* code and changing network preference. well fooling around at work yesterday i tried it out and i picked "WCDMA only" and before this, i get prettu good 3g and H signals but very few edge spots (inside). after i selected that though my signal was still on H speeds so i didnt think much of it but its been 15 hours and ive been around and my phone hasnt even as much as dropped down to 3g. so maybe or maybe not this could help you guys out but i just wanted to give a heads up. try out for yourself
p.s. i also heard it helps with battery because your phone isnt always busy switching back and forth between network.
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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There's a g for that
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dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
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There's a g for that
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Yeah. I've seen E, G, and H on my G2... granted I rarely ever see G. I actually thought it was a glitch when I saw it lol.
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There's a g for that
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
H and G only in West Texas
Out here we are still stuck on a 3G network. (No idea when HSDPA or + will be here), but NO EDGE, unless you roam... It is 3G/H or GPRS... It kinds sucks, thank goodness for WIFI..
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
I wanna get more replies and see from more people, the problem with me is, at school in campus the signal is really spotty, where I can even have 3 or 4 bars and be still on edge.
Another thing is where when the signal goes haywire, it will drop from either utms or hspa into edge and the data connection will just stop and it won't work unless I get the H. Its been happening for a week now and I'm up to a week on my remorse period and want to handle this before its too late.
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
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What he said + if you do this and u get to were there is no 3g or 4g then you will get no signal because the phone isnt looking for an egde but only 3g/4g.
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dronepop said:
Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
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I think that they were saying for the OP to download that widget so that they will know when they are on HSPA+ or 3g. I'm pretty sure they didn't think the OP was already using the widget or they wouldn't have suggested downloading it.

[Q] regarding sudden network changes and lack of LTE

Hi All. Ive looked around but haven't seen a similar issue to mine, but it might not be a "bad" issue..not sure...here goes!
Samsung galaxy s4. Fido (Canada) so equivalent to the AT&T version.
The top of my S4 has what network i am on. Sometimes it says "3g", sometimes "h+" (i am guessing HSPA) and sometimes "4G" (i am guessing LTE but i am not certain)
Never does my phone give me an icon of "LTE", and i am in an LTE zone in Montreal. Ive done multiple speedtests, and when its on "4G" i get good speeds between 20 and 50 mbps down
My question : Is the S4 supposed to say "LTE" and i am not getting it for some reason?
Or
Does "4G" actually mean LTE?
If anyone knows or has experience in this i would really appreciate the help and clarification
ps. I just upgraded to an S4 from my 2009 Iphone 3gs, and im so happy
ALex
I Like Good Food said:
Hi All. Ive looked around but haven't seen a similar issue to mine, but it might not be a "bad" issue..not sure...here goes!
Samsung galaxy s4. Fido (Canada) so equivalent to the AT&T version.
The top of my S4 has what network i am on. Sometimes it says "3g", sometimes "h+" (i am guessing HSPA) and sometimes "4G" (i am guessing LTE but i am not certain)
Never does my phone give me an icon of "LTE", and i am in an LTE zone in Montreal. Ive done multiple speedtests, and when its on "4G" i get good speeds between 20 and 50 mbps down
My question : Is the S4 supposed to say "LTE" and i am not getting it for some reason?
Or
Does "4G" actually mean LTE?
If anyone knows or has experience in this i would really appreciate the help and clarification
ps. I just upgraded to an S4 from my 2009 Iphone 3gs, and im so happy
ALex
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I just got my s4 today from rogers in Ontario, it does say LTE at the top, hasn't ever dropped to 3g or anything else yet. Make sure you have a LTE micro sim, i had to get a new one as the one in my iphone 4s was not LTE.
Dillinger05 said:
I just got my s4 today from rogers in Ontario, it does say LTE at the top, hasn't ever dropped to 3g or anything else yet. Make sure you have a LTE micro sim, i had to get a new one as the one in my iphone 4s was not LTE.
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I do have a micro lte sim. Thank you for your reply I'll call fido soon and see what's up. I am afraid they will not know though.
I Like Good Food said:
I do have a micro lte sim. Thank you for your reply I'll call fido soon and see what's up. I am afraid they will not know though.
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You might want to make sure your "APN" is correct for LTE connections in your area. You can use google or the forums search function to learn more about what your APN should be if it isn't already correct.
scott14719 said:
You might want to make sure your "APN" is correct for LTE connections in your area. You can use google or the forums search function to learn more about what your APN should be if it isn't already correct.
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Ive looked around the forums and i beleive i have the correct APN (Fido LTE). Looking around other settings, under "network mode" the icon i have selected is "LTE/GSM/WCDA (auto connect)"
I guess now i am more at the stage of defining the various icons. Ive found many definitions on XDA but these definitions are all for various roms.
for instance:
Originally Posted by BNaughty http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31827119
AOSP ROMs will always be G, E, 3G, H, H+, 4G
G - GPRS
E - Edge
3G - 3G
H - 3.5G down
H+ - 3.5 G up/down
4G - LTE
in other pages ive seen H+ mean 4g, and LTE meaning LTE.
So a more specific question now.
According to Android 4.2.2 (android 4+ anyways, should be the same) with touchwiz, what do the icons correspond to?
According to the samsung SGH I337M manual:
E refers to connection/communication with the edge network.
3G refers to connection/communication with the UTMS network.
H+ refers to connection/communication with HSPA or HSPA + network.
LTE refers to connection/communication with an 4G LTE network.
Issue is that i get an icon that is not on this list. I get an icon that says simply "4G"
Not sure what this icon refers to..possibly LTE, possibly HSPA+? I called samsung canada, and they dont seem to know either...neither does fido, but im not surprised.
again if anyone knows, i would appreciate it

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