just recently a guy posted about the *#*#4636#*#* code and changing network preference. well fooling around at work yesterday i tried it out and i picked "WCDMA only" and before this, i get prettu good 3g and H signals but very few edge spots (inside). after i selected that though my signal was still on H speeds so i didnt think much of it but its been 15 hours and ive been around and my phone hasnt even as much as dropped down to 3g. so maybe or maybe not this could help you guys out but i just wanted to give a heads up. try out for yourself
p.s. i also heard it helps with battery because your phone isnt always busy switching back and forth between network.
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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There's a g for that
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dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
johnxjets said:
There's a g for that
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Yeah. I've seen E, G, and H on my G2... granted I rarely ever see G. I actually thought it was a glitch when I saw it lol.
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
H and G only in West Texas
Out here we are still stuck on a 3G network. (No idea when HSDPA or + will be here), but NO EDGE, unless you roam... It is 3G/H or GPRS... It kinds sucks, thank goodness for WIFI..
bigstunta101 said:
no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
I wanna get more replies and see from more people, the problem with me is, at school in campus the signal is really spotty, where I can even have 3 or 4 bars and be still on edge.
Another thing is where when the signal goes haywire, it will drop from either utms or hspa into edge and the data connection will just stop and it won't work unless I get the H. Its been happening for a week now and I'm up to a week on my remorse period and want to handle this before its too late.
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
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What he said + if you do this and u get to were there is no 3g or 4g then you will get no signal because the phone isnt looking for an egde but only 3g/4g.
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
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I think that they were saying for the OP to download that widget so that they will know when they are on HSPA+ or 3g. I'm pretty sure they didn't think the OP was already using the widget or they wouldn't have suggested downloading it.
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Hi,
Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not blackstone is truely 3g capable and it will just take some software effort to tweak/enable 3g support?
Thanks.
EDIT: sorry, I'm in the us and I always forget. let me clarify, does it support 850/1900 ? Essentially, is it possible by only modifying the software to make it work on ATT 3g network for the data?
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Hi,
Has anyone been able to confirm whether or not blackstone is truely 3g capable and it will just some software effort to tweak/enable 3g support?
Thanks.
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what do you mean truly capable? yes it is 3g. it is advertised as 3g. and i have used it last week.
erm... if you mean by video call, i dont know, if you mean by download speed, yes.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
his asking about US! bands for 3G! ... if someone has figured out a way to do it or not?
tyronne1126 said:
his asking about US! bands for 3G! ... if someone has figured out a way to do it or not?
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Not yet.....
I've had my Touch HD in the California Bay Area for about a week. Lately, the G icon has appeared way more often. In fact, today I watch as I walked out doors for 15 minutes to lunch with the G symbol displayed. Previously, I thought it was bad signal that randomly showed 3G while it was searching for a network. But I am seeing the G icon is areas of known good reception. I'm on the ATT network.
Maybe there's hope.
G stands for GPRS, which is actually worse than EDGE, but probably the phone did use EDGE, phone just doesnt have own icon for that one. Available icons are G, 3G, H, from lowest to fastest: GPRS/EDGE, 3G, HDSPA/HSUPA
Vinski- said:
G stands for GPRS, which is actually worse than EDGE, but probably the phone did use EDGE, phone just doesnt have own icon for that one. Available icons are G, 3G, H, from lowest to fastest: GPRS/EDGE, 3G, HDSPA/HSUPA
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That's incorrect. There is an E icon for EDGE (I see it right now). I guess there are 4 icons. G, E, 3G, and H.
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That's incorrect. There is an E icon for EDGE (I see it right now). I guess there are 4 icons. G, E, 3G, and H.
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Yeah ur'e right, I've seen it too, my bedroom i only get EDGE connection, totally forgot
Thanks for correcting!
So I looked down at my phone last night and instead of the usual E hanging out above my bars, there is a G. I am on AT&T...how is this possible???
Does the G mean something other than 3G? (2G? I thought that was Edge...hence the E).
Sadly, it means GPRS. Even slower than EDGE.
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Sadly, it means GPRS. Even slower than EDGE.
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That is sad...what would 3G look like? I am guessing maybe a 3 and a G?
Thanks for the info!
you would be correct. 3G
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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On a theme you can change the 3G icon to the H and make believe
I'm surprised he got G thought that was impossible to still get that after seeing all those A&TT commercials about coverage.
on cyan's rom I go from 3g to H alot during the day. Where i am at im mostly on H.
Ace42 said:
On a theme you can change the 3G icon to the H and make believe
I'm surprised he got G thought that was impossible to still get that after seeing all those A&TT commercials about coverage.
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hey, G is still coverage!
HSDPA is actually still a part of 3G, the display icon when in use is not enabled by default likely because it would confuse the holy living CRAP out of the masses (and still confuses a great deal of XDA'ers). H is more like 3.5G. Rom's like CM5 have enabled it so that when HSDPA is in use, the 3G icon changes to H, and it goes back to 3G again when UMTS is in use.
CDMA networks have a technology (spectrum) limitation that requires them to move to 4G (WiMax or LTE) sooner than GSM providers. Right now I believe Verizon is building out LTE, and Sprint is building out WiMax.
Personally, I'll be happy when the carriers put in the backbone necessary everywhere to support the wireless speeds.
boxmander said:
AFAIK listed from slow to fast
G = GPRS (like gunnner mentioned)
E = EDGE ( think 2g)
3G = 3G ( 3rd generation)
H = HSDPA ( High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
I have only seen H on nexus one in pictures.
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more like
GPRS is still 2G, while EDGE is 2.5G, like how there is 3G and 3.5G(HSDPA)
for all you AT&T and Verizon people here... watch this vid...
http://gizmodo.com/5473135/man-confuses-reality-with-a-verizon-commercial
I'm curious if.the custom ROM's enable the H icon only or if they actually enable HSDPA. Reason I ask is because I'm only getting UMTS- like speeds and I've heard others mention they're getting much faster speeds in my area.
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I'm curious if.the custom ROM's enable the H icon only or if they actually enable HSDPA. Reason I ask is because I'm only getting UMTS- like speeds and I've heard others mention they're getting much faster speeds in my area.
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when u see the H you are indeed using hspa. even if you dont have a custom rom you may still be using it, you just dont get an icon because it would confuse the average consumer as stated by someone else in this thread.
I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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Were you running a custom rom? Stock doesn't/has never shown this for me. I get the slightly higher speeds I believe though.
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I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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3g = h.
h = 3g.
Only custom roms show H. But even if it "just" shows 3g, you're still connected to the same network.
It's like the difference between pancakes and flapjacks. Some people call em pancakes. Some people call em flapjacks.
In the end they're the same damn thing.
^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
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^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
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The distinction sometimes refers to basic UMTS, but at least in the United States, every UMTS tower has HSPA upgrades. The reason the distinction even started was because in Europe, there were many towers that were UMTS-only without HS[D/U]PA upgrades. That's not the case here.
On the other hand, now ROMS sometimes show H for HSPA+ areas. That is all fine and dandy, except that your Vibrant doesn't go faster than 7.2mbps HSDPA, or 5.6mbps HSUPA. It's not like when your phone is showing "H", that you're magically going to get faster speeds than your phone was designed to achieve.
So when it comes back to the OPs question, of "connecting" to a faster network, it's irrelevant. Once you're on 3g, it's all the same network. HSPA+ and HSDPA and UMTS are all the same network - just different data upgrades. And your phone will ALWAYS try to access the fastest data upgrade that it can.
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I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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it's depend on the phone i think. Before i switch to the vibrant (3G display), I used HD2.
On the HD2, i got H notification all the time. And speedtests on both phones yielded same results.
^^ great read, and I understood all of it... I just never understood why sometimes I got 3G and sometimes I got H in the notification bar, makes sense I suppose. I realize the same speeds were usually achieved.
Does anyone know if the G2 displays hspa+ in the phone signal? I only see UMTS or HSDPA and I live in Dallas which supposedly was one of the first cities to get HSPA+.
I've searched around but I have never found any concrete evidence regarding the issue. Fastest speed I've seen is about 6 Mbps, which I think is just standard 3G.
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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StockDroid said:
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
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Which part of Dallas were you in when you got those speeds?
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When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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Surely you mean if it says HSDPA it's either on HSDPA or HSPA+ ?
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
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I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
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I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I was rocking a N1 before and it clearly was on HSDPA... This was months before HSPA+ was officially released in Chicago.
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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Is that so? My mistake then.
My phone almost never stays on G and if nothing else, is only on H and fluctuates to edge in some of the weaker signal areas.
G = gprs
e = edge
h = umts/hsdpa/hspa+, (3g/"4g")
g<e<h
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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That does seem pretty rubbish, if it shows "H" even on when you're on plain 3G speeds.
Just so everyone knows. This discussion is not about the H in the status bar. We already know it displays H for all high speed connection types.
It is about the network type displayed in the staus and how to determine if you ade on HSPA+.
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Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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I do use that and I see 3G and H, but I assumed I would see H+ when it goes to HSPA+.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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Its showing me h all the time. My hspa+ speed sucks then lol I only get like 3mbps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
It will never say hspa+ just hsdpa
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I occasionally get HSPA+ from where I live and even then, my speeds are below 1 Mbps. At least the rest of you are approaching 3 or better, I'd kill for that.
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When I am in a 3g only area and I see other people with t mobile connected to 3g but my nexus 4 can't connect to 3g only 2g(E). My home will only show a (H) and a (E) but never a 3G! is there a reason why?
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4963
I've only ever seen G+H here, not sure why.
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H is better than 3g
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H is better than 3g
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i know H is better than 3g! but 3g is better than E!..... i mean where im in a area i know there's 3G im getting Edge instead of 3G..... I think i've never seen my phone once display 3G ever!! and i travel allot!
Depending on your carrier, if tmobile then usually H and 3g usually are one in the same because H technically is 3g uhh 3g(+).
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Depending on your carrier, if tmobile then usually H and 3g usually are one in the same because H technically is 3g uhh 3g(+).
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H is 3g, you are right.
here in the nyc area, i almost always see an H(rom enabled H+ when on a H+ network), at certain places i see an E. every once in a few months, i see a 3G and a G.
Go to dialer, then type in *#*#4636#*#* then choose phone info, then scroll down and you might see a little rectangle with "WCDMA Preferred", choose that and change it to WCDMA Only if you want to only have 3g/H signal. But note that if you're in an area with no 3g signal then you wouldn't have any signal on your phone, you'd have to choose GSM Only (only 2g networks such as edge or gprs, saves more battery) or back to WCDMA Preferred.
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Seems it's a "bug" or whatever you want to call it in the Nexus 4 radio and even the old SGS2 (international) had this with newer ICS/JB radios.
I'm on AT&T and I noticed after some point when the radios would come out for that phone it would no longer show 3G when idle and H or H+ when active, it was "idle" on H all the time. Without moving my location i can restart my phone (talking about the SGS2 here) and flash between new and old radios and it would either be on 3G all the time when idle or H. Don't think there was a battery loss as a result but still it's a bug or towers need to be updated or something.
The Nexus 4 came with newer radios obviously and from day 1 it would sit on H all the time. Some other people in other parts of the country show it dropping down to 3G when needed but not here in the NYC area.
3G is not the same as H but i guess without being technical you can say it is .
3G = UMTS
H = HSPA (and up to 14,4Mbps)
H+ = HSPA+ (HSPAP)
I was thinking AT&T disabled UMTS around here but as I said, my SGS2 with an older radio will still show 3G (both running same ROM).
I haven't tried a T-Mobile SIM but seems to be the same anyways.