When I am in a 3g only area and I see other people with t mobile connected to 3g but my nexus 4 can't connect to 3g only 2g(E). My home will only show a (H) and a (E) but never a 3G! is there a reason why?
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4963
I've only ever seen G+H here, not sure why.
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H is better than 3g
Rizy7 said:
H is better than 3g
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i know H is better than 3g! but 3g is better than E!..... i mean where im in a area i know there's 3G im getting Edge instead of 3G..... I think i've never seen my phone once display 3G ever!! and i travel allot!
Depending on your carrier, if tmobile then usually H and 3g usually are one in the same because H technically is 3g uhh 3g(+).
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Teo032 said:
Depending on your carrier, if tmobile then usually H and 3g usually are one in the same because H technically is 3g uhh 3g(+).
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H is 3g, you are right.
here in the nyc area, i almost always see an H(rom enabled H+ when on a H+ network), at certain places i see an E. every once in a few months, i see a 3G and a G.
Go to dialer, then type in *#*#4636#*#* then choose phone info, then scroll down and you might see a little rectangle with "WCDMA Preferred", choose that and change it to WCDMA Only if you want to only have 3g/H signal. But note that if you're in an area with no 3g signal then you wouldn't have any signal on your phone, you'd have to choose GSM Only (only 2g networks such as edge or gprs, saves more battery) or back to WCDMA Preferred.
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Seems it's a "bug" or whatever you want to call it in the Nexus 4 radio and even the old SGS2 (international) had this with newer ICS/JB radios.
I'm on AT&T and I noticed after some point when the radios would come out for that phone it would no longer show 3G when idle and H or H+ when active, it was "idle" on H all the time. Without moving my location i can restart my phone (talking about the SGS2 here) and flash between new and old radios and it would either be on 3G all the time when idle or H. Don't think there was a battery loss as a result but still it's a bug or towers need to be updated or something.
The Nexus 4 came with newer radios obviously and from day 1 it would sit on H all the time. Some other people in other parts of the country show it dropping down to 3G when needed but not here in the NYC area.
3G is not the same as H but i guess without being technical you can say it is .
3G = UMTS
H = HSPA (and up to 14,4Mbps)
H+ = HSPA+ (HSPAP)
I was thinking AT&T disabled UMTS around here but as I said, my SGS2 with an older radio will still show 3G (both running same ROM).
I haven't tried a T-Mobile SIM but seems to be the same anyways.
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just recently a guy posted about the *#*#4636#*#* code and changing network preference. well fooling around at work yesterday i tried it out and i picked "WCDMA only" and before this, i get prettu good 3g and H signals but very few edge spots (inside). after i selected that though my signal was still on H speeds so i didnt think much of it but its been 15 hours and ive been around and my phone hasnt even as much as dropped down to 3g. so maybe or maybe not this could help you guys out but i just wanted to give a heads up. try out for yourself
p.s. i also heard it helps with battery because your phone isnt always busy switching back and forth between network.
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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There's a g for that
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dronepop said:
"H" is what is displayed when you have a 3G signal.
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
johnxjets said:
There's a g for that
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Yeah. I've seen E, G, and H on my G2... granted I rarely ever see G. I actually thought it was a glitch when I saw it lol.
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
H and G only in West Texas
Out here we are still stuck on a 3G network. (No idea when HSDPA or + will be here), but NO EDGE, unless you roam... It is 3G/H or GPRS... It kinds sucks, thank goodness for WIFI..
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no its not. download this app called "mobile signal widget" and it will show you when u cross between 3g and H
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
I wanna get more replies and see from more people, the problem with me is, at school in campus the signal is really spotty, where I can even have 3 or 4 bars and be still on edge.
Another thing is where when the signal goes haywire, it will drop from either utms or hspa into edge and the data connection will just stop and it won't work unless I get the H. Its been happening for a week now and I'm up to a week on my remorse period and want to handle this before its too late.
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Well, according to T-Mobile's G2 Guide:
H = Connected to the fastest 3G networks (UMTS or HSDPA)
E = Connected to the second-fastest network (EDGE)
G = Connected to a 2G network (GPRS)
You will see an "H" while you are using 3G. This means the "H" is shared for UMTS or HSPA as well ("4G"). I don't agree that this is how it should be noted, but that is how it is noted on the G2 without any 3rd party widgets installed.
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What he said + if you do this and u get to were there is no 3g or 4g then you will get no signal because the phone isnt looking for an egde but only 3g/4g.
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Sorry you are wrong. H = 3G or 4G (HSPA or HSPA+)
I have that widget too, but the OP never said that widget is what he was looking at. Presumably, he was looking at the stock notification on the phone, showing "H". My point is that he would see "H" while on 3G or 4G, so he'd only be able to tell the difference by speed tests or some other measurement (such as a 3rd party widget).
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I think that they were saying for the OP to download that widget so that they will know when they are on HSPA+ or 3g. I'm pretty sure they didn't think the OP was already using the widget or they wouldn't have suggested downloading it.
I don't think this was working before the update, but now u can enter the
*#*#4636#*#* command and select WCDMA only to stay on 3/3.5g.
And before anyone asks
WCDMA only means 3g and 3.5g which means if your signal is strong enough, HSPA+/4g
Im just curious where do u enter that code?
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sundar2012 said:
I don't think this was working before the update, but now u can enter the
*#*#4636#*#* command and select WCDMA only to stay on 3/3.5g.
And before anyone asks
WCDMA only means 3g and 3.5g which means if your signal is strong enough, HSPA+/4g
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in that case, shouldn't it be WCDMA Preferred?.... if you end up in a EDGE... only area...?
also... I thought GSM Auto PRL.... was the best option...
G1rome said:
Im just curious where do u enter that code?
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Dialer.
(ten char).
it worked before the update...
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Fair warning... this move will impact your battery life heavily.
gsm auto prl can save u a bit of battery life but usually prefers edge if the 3g signal isn't strong enough.
Wcdma only wont allow for a 3g to edge fluctuation. It will force 3g. Problem is, if your in an area with poor coverage it'll be either 3g or nothing and you may find yourself with no connection at all since the phone wont bring u to edge.
Wcdma preffered is like the opposite of gsm auto prl. It will prefer 3g.
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gsm auto prl can save u a bit of battery life but usually prefers edge if the 3g signal isn't strong enough.
Wcdma only wont allow for a 3g to edge fluctuation. It will force 3g. Problem is, if your in an area with poor coverage it'll be either 3g or nothing and you may find yourself with no connection at all since the phone wont bring u to edge.
Wcdma preffered is like the opposite of gsm auto prl. It will prefer 3g.
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Thanks sheek, I guess my best bet would be to good with WCDMA preferred, since reception is shaky in my area...
I think this might be better since it will waste less energy capturing a weak edge signal in a weak area.
working so far. ill report bat life in due time. i cant see how it would really affect it. i hate when my g2 hits edge. if by not using it because of edge saves battery then im fine with a dying battery. i have spares and extended bats anyway
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Thanks sheek, I guess my best bet would be to good with WCDMA preferred, since reception is shaky in my area...
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Yup. That's exactly what I do too.
I have a friend who lives in Philly; one of the best tmobile footprints exist in this city. Wcdma only and wcdma prefer netted no gains or losses except when he crossed and passed Camden new jersey.
Or search "radioinfo" in the market and get the app named network that pops up in the search.
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gsm auto prl can save u a bit of battery life but usually prefers edge if the 3g signal isn't strong enough.
Wcdma only wont allow for a 3g to edge fluctuation. It will force 3g. Problem is, if your in an area with poor coverage it'll be either 3g or nothing and you may find yourself with no connection at all since the phone wont bring u to edge.
Wcdma preffered is like the opposite of gsm auto prl. It will prefer 3g.
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That's not the only difference between the modes.
WCDMA Only will only lock in the 3G signals and switch over if there is no more signal for 3G reception.
-Only use this if you're in a metropolitan area or are covered in abundant 3G signals.
WCDMA Preferred will drain more battery, the reason being that it'll scan the airwaves constantly in search of better 3G signals. You are right about it having a wider 3G signal threshold.
-Use this if you're in a 3G abundant city but not where if you're noticing frequently 3G to E switching as it'll adversely kill your battery.
GSM Auto PRL will shrink the threshold for 3G signals as well as less frequent scans for better signal. Generally E to 3G/H transitions happens on 1.5 to 2 bars of 3G signal, but the phone will remain on 3G unless there is an EDGE signal that is better and thus may provide better data transfer speeds or if 3G/H signal is gone.
-Benefits for battery life but not great when better signal is a necessary. Would not recommend this mode if signal is scattered.
As you can tell from my city in my sig, I have a choice between the three, I went with GSM Auto PRL due to battery life being of importance to me as I'm not necessarily next to a tap in 8 hour gaps.
Hope this helps better than my original post.
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Or search "radioinfo" in the market and get the app named network that pops up in the search.
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Or the "Network" app.
xmasguy said:
it worked before the update...
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confirmed xxxxxxx
I have never even touched an HSPA+ connection and I live in an area where it's apparently abundant.
Switched SIMs for a newer one and still nothing. I was told to wait for the 2nd OTA that's coming out by the 8th (And I'm still calling BS on that)
Why in the hell would they push out 2 different OTA's in 1 week for a single device?
I'm hesitant to do this because I don't know if it is my phone being flakey or the actual area. According to TMobile's data coverage website I am in the middle of a massive solid high speed zone... but I constantly flake to Edge.
I don't want to change this setting and it cut out on me entirely, that it may be the actual area. But I guess all I can do is try :shrug:
The one thing I've noticed about the phone is that signal drops when holding it to use the keyboard, if this information's any help.
I found I was hemhoragging battery at some point with 50% no signal according to cell standby. But it wasn't caused by selecting WCDMA only - i am bathed in hspa/umta. Instead I turned on airplane mode while plugged in, waited a bit, then off, then unplugged. Then restarted phone to recovery (clockwork), wiped battery stats, and restarted. Running fine now.
I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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Were you running a custom rom? Stock doesn't/has never shown this for me. I get the slightly higher speeds I believe though.
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I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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3g = h.
h = 3g.
Only custom roms show H. But even if it "just" shows 3g, you're still connected to the same network.
It's like the difference between pancakes and flapjacks. Some people call em pancakes. Some people call em flapjacks.
In the end they're the same damn thing.
^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
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^ true, but sometimes in my area I will have 3G, sometiems H, and sometimes Edge... (on my Nexus One). Seems odd that the phone makes a distinction between 3G and H if there is no difference. I also prefer the H and wish it showed on my phone (Vibrant this time) instead.
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The distinction sometimes refers to basic UMTS, but at least in the United States, every UMTS tower has HSPA upgrades. The reason the distinction even started was because in Europe, there were many towers that were UMTS-only without HS[D/U]PA upgrades. That's not the case here.
On the other hand, now ROMS sometimes show H for HSPA+ areas. That is all fine and dandy, except that your Vibrant doesn't go faster than 7.2mbps HSDPA, or 5.6mbps HSUPA. It's not like when your phone is showing "H", that you're magically going to get faster speeds than your phone was designed to achieve.
So when it comes back to the OPs question, of "connecting" to a faster network, it's irrelevant. Once you're on 3g, it's all the same network. HSPA+ and HSDPA and UMTS are all the same network - just different data upgrades. And your phone will ALWAYS try to access the fastest data upgrade that it can.
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I use to notice a h symbol in my notification bar which I assumed my network was connected to hspa but I havent seen it in months how can I connect to it?
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it's depend on the phone i think. Before i switch to the vibrant (3G display), I used HD2.
On the HD2, i got H notification all the time. And speedtests on both phones yielded same results.
^^ great read, and I understood all of it... I just never understood why sometimes I got 3G and sometimes I got H in the notification bar, makes sense I suppose. I realize the same speeds were usually achieved.
Does anyone know if the G2 displays hspa+ in the phone signal? I only see UMTS or HSDPA and I live in Dallas which supposedly was one of the first cities to get HSPA+.
I've searched around but I have never found any concrete evidence regarding the issue. Fastest speed I've seen is about 6 Mbps, which I think is just standard 3G.
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830907
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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StockDroid said:
You didn't read close enough. I am aware about the H displaying for both 3G, HSPDA, and HSPA+. I'm talking about what is displayed in the phone status settings.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I went to Dallas last weekend, and mine showed HSPDA on status... So, I'm not sure... I was getting pretty rock solid download and upload speeds, roughly around 8 Mbps download...
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Which part of Dallas were you in when you got those speeds?
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papeshfoo said:
When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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Surely you mean if it says HSDPA it's either on HSDPA or HSPA+ ?
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Nope the H displays for 3g and Hspa+
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I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
Davidion said:
I see a lot of people around here saying this and it's a bit strange to me. I have very clear E/edge, G/3G, and H/HSPA+ indicators on my phone.
Maybe I got a special build. haha
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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When it says HSPDA it is on HSPA+, UMTS is 3G. Only reason I know this is because I live in Chicago and we just got it, so ever since, it has said HSPDA. Before, it only ever read UMTS.
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I was rocking a N1 before and it clearly was on HSDPA... This was months before HSPA+ was officially released in Chicago.
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umm, the G that displays is actually lower then E.
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Is that so? My mistake then.
My phone almost never stays on G and if nothing else, is only on H and fluctuates to edge in some of the weaker signal areas.
G = gprs
e = edge
h = umts/hsdpa/hspa+, (3g/"4g")
g<e<h
Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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That does seem pretty rubbish, if it shows "H" even on when you're on plain 3G speeds.
Just so everyone knows. This discussion is not about the H in the status bar. We already know it displays H for all high speed connection types.
It is about the network type displayed in the staus and how to determine if you ade on HSPA+.
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Do you know of a way to force the phone to display 3G when appropriate? I think having the phone display "H" at all times is fairly misleading.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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I do use that and I see 3G and H, but I assumed I would see H+ when it goes to HSPA+.
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The only other option you have is to grab the "Mobile Signal Widget" from the Android Market. That will accurately tell you your signal strength and what connection signal you're surfing. I.E it'll show 3G if you're on 3G and H if you're on HSPA+.
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Its showing me h all the time. My hspa+ speed sucks then lol I only get like 3mbps.
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It will never say hspa+ just hsdpa
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I occasionally get HSPA+ from where I live and even then, my speeds are below 1 Mbps. At least the rest of you are approaching 3 or better, I'd kill for that.
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Im confused about the maximum speeds the nexus 4 can handle, the terminology for it and the speeds the carriers offer
In theory the nexus 4 can reach up to 42 Mbps right? but thats still 3g? ive read about 3.5g but does it actually exists or its just marketing? when the phone displays an "H" that's HSDPA ??? HSDPA is still 3g? my galaxy nexus here in germany using vodafone most of the time displays an "H" and my plan has 7.2 mbps of speed but ive seen some phones displaying "H+" im confused , can someone enlighten me?
Also whats the point of google advertising the nexus can have 42 Mbps speeds if pretty much every carrier maxes up at 21 Mbps :/ (at least here in Germany)
The Nexus 4 is a 3G device capable of doing Dc hspa+ up to 42Mbps... If your carrier do not support it then you will fall back to hspa+ 21Mbps...
And for the 3g and the little h on the status bar only means that your are connected to 3G and the little h is when data is transmitting....
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The Nexus 4 is a 3G device capable of doing Dc hspa+ up to 42Mbps... If your carrier do not support it then you will fall back to hspa+ 21Mbps...
And for the 3g and the little h on the status bar only means that your are connected to 3G and the little h is when data is transmitting....
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But ive seen my phone sometimes saying 3g on the status bar, that means i dont have 3g signal in thart moment? or maybe that the phone its switching from edge (2g) to 3g?
If you see the 3G icon in the status bar that mean you have a 3G signal... And when you see the H that means 3G data is being transferred...
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If you see the 3G icon in the status bar that mean you have a 3G signal... And when you see the H that means 3G data is being transferred...
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But even when my phone is idle and i turn the screen the H is on the status bar, so the phone is always transfering data? i have sincronization off
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But even when my phone is idle and i turn the screen the H is on the status bar, so the phone is always transfering data? i have sincronization off
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It's just telling you what kind of data connection is available.
The N4 just shows "H" while some other phones will show "H+" when connected to HSPA+. Custom ROMs will add it.
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GPRS
EDGE
3G
HSDPA (10)
HSDPA+ (21)
DC-HSDPA (42)
LTE (100)
This is how I always saw it.
But in reality, most places 'on average' see LTE and DC-HSDPA share similar speeds on downstream even though LTE should be much faster , whereas upload is always higher on LTE.
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