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Today I lost the speaker and mic in my 8125. I don't know what's the problem. I can't hear anything from the speakers nor use the microphone. The headphones work but not the internal speaker. What could be the problem?
I need help!!!
Diego
Still no microphone nor speaker in my 8125. I tried restoring to original set up without a change. I think it's a hardware problem and I';m taking it to CIngular for a exchange.
If anyone can help, please let me know.
Thanks
Diego
exact same thing for me. had this playing music when i removed the head phone jack and was surprised to hear that no sound came out of the external speakers ...
now i can't even use the phone ... WTF?!?
Well, I contacted Cingular Suport on the phone and they're sending a replacement. Apparently is a defect of the 8125 hardware and many have reported this problem too.
@MeatPopSci
Contact your service provider to get a replacement.
Diego
Well, I contacted Cingular Suport on the phone and they're sending a replacement. Apparently is a defect of the 8125 hardware and many have reported this problem too.
@MeatPopSci
Contact your service provider to get a replacement.
Diego
Dont Worry Bro Its No Big Deal, Calm yourself down and listen carefully, The reason its not working is that when you insert the headphone jack into it (there is a small jumper in it which works through a spring so when you insert the jack inside so it disconnects the main audio circuit) so sometimes due to some dryness or may be somethingelse it doesnt connect back, I just recently fixed one Device with the same problem but since i know how to open it and so i did but for you, i guess the top priority would be not loosing the warranty and that you surely will once you tried opening it but ofcourse you need tools for that, so heres a small tip which may work, Open media Player, Play a song and than try inserting the jack back into it and take it out, do it with a little force, it may start working but that will still not be a proper solution to it. Thats all i can help, if there is still you need my assistance in understading the way how to open it than dont forget to drop me a reminder mail on my mail box and ill check back and will tell you more if it didnt work.
Thanks man, a replacement is coming anyway, but it's good to know.
Diego
fsl13 said:
Dont Worry Bro Its No Big Deal ... you more if it didnt work.
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first i thought software was the problem so after a soft reset followed then a hard reset both failed to restore the sound i figured it had to be mechanical.
so i basically did what you said till TOOL started playing via the external speakers.
needless to say i am very concerned that this $$$ phone is so easily made useless.
BTW thanks for the help!
No Problem! It made me happy
Well, im so glad my idea worked n yes u know for me if it stinks, its chemistry
if it hurts, its biology
n if it doesn't work,
its definately physics(electronics) lol
so i dont depend or trust electronics
Anyway the pleasure was all mine, no need to thank
takecare!
Ever since I unlocked my 8525 with a code provided by a remote imei unlocker, no one can hear my voice when I place or recive calls. I've tried both a cingular sim, and t-mobile sim, neither has any affect, and they work perfectly in other phones. used a remote imei unlock because I thought that you couldn't downgrade from the 1.09 bootloader which I had, but I found out you could, so i downgraded it and I made it supercid, but it didn't seem to have any affect since the phone was already sim unlocked
I only want to do this to see if the sim unlock is the reason why my voice cannot be heard (the headset doesn't make a difference either), or if it is a hardware problem and then go about looking for a place that can repair it. Is it the microphone for calls the same as recording notes?, because I can voice record notes just fine.
I also seem to get "no service" alot even though before I unlocked it i got perfect coverage and I've tried three different radios and neither one made a difference.
cjchriscj said:
Ever since I unlocked my 8525 with a code provided by a remote imei unlocker, no one can hear my voice when I place or recive calls. I've tried both a cingular sim, and t-mobile sim, neither has any affect, and they work perfectly in other phones. used a remote imei unlock because I thought that you couldn't downgrade from the 1.09 bootloader which I had, but I found out you could, so i downgraded it and I made it supercid, but it didn't seem to have any affect since the phone was already sim unlocked
I only want to do this to see if the sim unlock is the reason why my voice cannot be heard (the headset doesn't make a difference either), or if it is a hardware problem and then go about looking for a place that can repair it. Is it the microphone for calls the same as recording notes?, because I can voice record notes just fine.
I also seem to get "no service" alot even though before I unlocked it i got perfect coverage and I've tried three different radios and neither one made a difference.
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Hmm... Please post your Device Details so that we can see what you versions of the ROM, RADIO you have and be able to point you to the right direction. PPL here are great in helping you solve your problems but you have to post what versions of the ROMS, OS versions etc you have.
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Hmm... Please post your Device Details so that we can see what you versions of the ROM, RADIO you have and be able to point you to the right direction. PPL here are great in helping you solve your problems but you have to post what versions of the ROMS, OS versions etc you have.
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Cingular 8525
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Rom Version: 1.35.255.2
Bootloader Version: 1.04
First of all, You did not have to pay to get the 8525 Unlocked. There are unlockers here for Free. Hmm..
Did you try going to this ROM for 8525 i.e "1.30.502.1"
cyberdrakula said:
First of all, You did not have to pay to get the 8525 Unlocked. There are unlockers here for Free. Hmm..
Did you try going to this ROM for 8525 i.e "1.30.502.1"
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I payed because I upgraded to the latest rom, with bootloader 1.09, and I thought it was impossible to downgrade it to be able to run the unlock program. I went on ebay, and gave some guy my imei number and he gave me an unlock code that worked. 2 days after this, i found out that it was possible to downgrade from the 1.09 bootloader with an kinda "illegal program" and I succesfully downgraded.
Before I try the lokiwiz tool, i want to know if it will not brick my 8525 since it was made for wizards. Will it work on a hermes? has anyone tried it?
a. relocking it will not fix your voice problem, has nothing to do with it
b. hard reset and see if it fixes it, it might be a software problem
c. if hard reset does not fix it, take it to the repair centre
d. awizard will not work on hermes
pof said:
a. relocking it will not fix your voice problem, has nothing to do with it
b. hard reset and see if it fixes it, it might be a software problem
c. if hard reset does not fix it, take it to the repair centre
d. awizard will not work on hermes
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I did a hard reset, and it didn't make a difference, its not a software problem. Where would I find a repair center in the North Eastern part of the US, and is the microphone for the voice recorder and phone different?
Where exactly is the voice mic located on the 8525 (maybe I can open it up and see if it got disconnected), and if a headset violently came of the usb port could that have caused my problem?
Ok, I did some more experimentation. If I put my mouth directly on to the bottom of my 8525 and blew into it or spoke loudly, i could faintly be heard. Anyone have any suggestions? Like I said before recording in notes work perfectly, and also sound is present on videos that I record. I bought this on ebay in november and was working perfectly. It started acting up this month either after I sim unlocked it or, or after the headset got violently ripped out (both happened on the same day) Also there seems to be a "crack" in the center of the bottom metal part of the USB port. im not sure if thats supposed to be there because on the cable there seems to be a "crack" in the same exact place
i just found another problem, when i have no service and i attempt to turn off the radio from the comm manager, it just turns right back on. Has this happened to anyone else?
ok, ive come to the conclusion that the problem has nothing to do with the software, sim or the phone being locked. How do you change the title of the thread, i want to change to micropone problems
Ive looked at the pictures of the Hermes in the wiki, and i still don't see the microphone, what does it look like?
cjchriscj said:
Ive looked at the pictures of the Hermes in the wiki, and i still don't see the microphone, what does it look like?
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I will try to remember and post a picture of it tonight. (few hours).
EDIT: In the meantime on the wiki pictures find motherboard side 2. On right hand side is a black rubber part which covers the microphone. On the assembled device it has a hole near the soft reset hole. If I get a picture later it will be with rubber cover removed.
The above basic motherboard picture is also here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com
Cheers
Mike
mikechannon said:
I will try to remember and post a picture of it tonight. (few hours).
Cheers
Mike
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thanks, earlier this morning, i dissasembled it, but stopped short because i could not remove the main board, i didn't know what was holding it and I didn't want to force it. Right now im using an old bluetooth headset that i had lying around. I am so confused about what the problem could be because the bluetooth headset works fine, but the wired one doesnt (I can still use them as headphones) and the mic, which works for other programs (well the built in notes program is the only one i tested) but not for calls
A side note (question) is it unusual for the device to not allow the phone module to turn off (through comm manager) when it has no service, and to not stay off when it has no service (keeps turning on after it turn it off when it says it has no service)? This requires a softreset to fix
I have just read through all the posts here.
There is only one microphone so if it works for notes then it's ok. It's just possible the ripping out of the headset has caused a crack in the board for the phone side of things but not damaged the mic. (i'm a little skeptical though).
At work so will reply in more detail later.
And lets hear from others who have a problem with the person being phoned not hearing what's being said.
Mike
mikechannon said:
I have just read through all the posts here.
There is only one microphone so if it works for notes then it's ok. It's just possible the ripping out of the headset has caused a crack in the board for the phone side of things but not damaged the mic. (i'm a little skeptical though).
At work so will reply in more detail later.
And lets hear from others who have a problem with the person being phoned not hearing what's being said.
Mike
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Yea, has anyone else had microphone problems?
I got a reply from Pocket Pc Techs, I emailed them earlier asking if they could repair my pda, and they said that they "Unfortunately we do not yet offer any repairs for the Cingular 8525." Think I could fix it myself?
cjchriscj said:
I got a reply from Pocket Pc Techs, I emailed them earlier asking if they could repair my pda, and they said that they "Unfortunately we do not yet offer any repairs for the Cingular 8525." Think I could fix it myself?
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Cannot answer that. As the mic is working for the recording functions then there is not a microphone fault. Also the mic is soldered directly to the main board so connection / cabling problems are ruled out. There may be a hairline crack on the boaed at some point but you'll be hard pushed to find anything without basic test equipment.
The Hermes is not the easiest to test when the back casing is removed as you need a way to keep the battery connected, something the case does in normal use.
You could go for the take it apart check the multi connectors (there's two) by unpluging reinserting and re-assembling - this involves no testing no "real" changes but can in a rather unscientific way sometimes sort basic problems related to a poor contact or connection.
Before doing this I would do at least a couple of full hard resets, and make a test call. If I had a warranty I would return the device.
If you fancy opening it up again to remove and reinsert the main board then look here:
cancel the little pop-up box that asks if you want language support:
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
Mike
mikechannon said:
Cannot answer that. As the mic is working for the recording functions then there is not a microphone fault. Also the mic is soldered directly to the main board so connection / cabling problems are ruled out. There may be a hairline crack on the boaed at some point but you'll be hard pushed to find anything without basic test equipment.
The Hermes is not the easiest to test when the back casing is removed as you need a way to keep the battery connected, something the case does in normal use.
You could go for the take it apart check the multi connectors (there's two) by unpluging reinserting and re-assembling - this involves no testing no "real" changes but can in a rather unscientific way sometimes sort basic problems related to a poor contact or connection.
Before doing this I would do at least a couple of full hard resets, and make a test call. If I had a warranty I would return the device.
If you fancy opening it up again to remove and reinsert the main board then look here:
cancel the little pop-up box that asks if you want language support:
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
Mike
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I did three hard resets and there wasnt any difference, i have already opened it voiding the warranty, and what are the multi connectors that you are talking about?
Hi Guys!
My TyTn is acting strangely. In use, the display is first pixelating, getting lines (noise pixels as well), and then fading to completely white. When so it doesn't responde to anything anymore. So a soft reset is needed.....
Also the ringtone when called, is 'out of tune', like a old record player when you push your finger on the record.. LOL
Before I send it back to have it fixed by HTC, do you guys have any idea whats wrong, and maybe even a tip to help me fix this myself?
Tried numerous soft resets, hard reset, and a reinstall of the original WM6 rom (in Dutch).
Did not install any new programs lately, or did change anything on the unit...
Don't want to miss my TyTn... so hate to send it away... as many of you I am hooked badly to my beloved digital companion
Greetzz Antal
It acts like hardware incompatible.
How about flashing with WM6 English version.
I don't think it is software problem.
I agree, not likely to be software. It did not get dropped or take a knock did it?
The two issues of pixelation/white screen may, if you are lucky, just be a connector thats loose. The sound I think is unrelated but again sounds like a poor connection at the white rear speaker connector block - not uncommon.
Both of the above could be caused by a sharp knock. There have also been cases of poor battery connections causing problems.
If you have a warranty use it. If not you can follow the dismantling guides or service manual to dismantle - check connections and re-assemble. Be prepared though, that sending it in might still be required!!
Mike
Will send it in
Hi Guys, Thanks fr your replies.
I will take the unit back to the store today.
I am not aware that I bumped it, or neither it has dropped. May be a connection that was allready quite loose to begin with. Lets see what HTC and the store will tell me
Strange thing is, that without my sim in it, and not using it, it stays normal... Have put it aside, and used a very old phone instead, and it is still normal..
Antal said:
Strange thing is, that without my sim in it, and not using it, it stays normal... Have put it aside, and used a very old phone instead, and it is still normal..
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Mmmm... that's important information and changes things a bit. Could be a sim card contact or something about the sim. Anyway it tends to suggest that other thoughts about hardware issues may not be correct!
Hope you find the answer at the store.
Mike
Well ladies and jerks, I regret to inform you that my MDA is completely dead. I was in a car accident the other day and it went flying through the air and when I grabbed it off the floor of my car the USB charge plug was loose and had trouble connecting to the computer but still worked. Since then I had put a drop of super glue in there to hold the plug still and everything was fine untill this morning. My phone was left off with no battery in it untill the glue dried and still, everything was fine.
Now this morning when I went to grab my phone it was completely frozen and had 1% of battery life left so I soft reset and plugged the phone in and it was charging fine. I connected it to the computer and it would not connect at all. Now after playing with the cable a bit to get it to connect to the computer, the charge port is completely dead. It will not even let it charge with the charger and the little silver piece inside the plug is falling out.
Does anyone here have any idea what I should do to save my Wizard? I fear it may be the end for it.
Here's the big problem though. My device is CID unlocked and still has the TNT.1437 firmware on it so my warrenty is completely void. T-Mobile will not send me a handset exchange like this.
hi
t-mobile wouldn't send you a warranty replacement even if you had the official windows mobile on it. that is because, after you read the terms and conditions of the warranty, it does not include and in fact states quite clearly that 'excessive' use of the usb cable resulting in damaged charging port will not be replaced.
i realise this is not very helpful, so allow me to be helpful!
download the wizard service manual, if you PM me your email address i can email you a copy of one
what you will have to do is first obtain a new mini usb port from ebay or somewhere similar, i will try to hunt one down in america for you
following the service manual, you need to dismantle your handset, use some sort of rubbing alcohol (nail varnish remover) to get rid of the super glue you put on, first try to re-solder the old connector back onto where it came, or if not solder on the new one after removing the old one.
to be honest, you dont have anything to lose, but you could gain a working mda again!
good luck, and just a disclaimer to say im not responsible for any damage done to yourself, your device or anything else.
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hi
t-mobile wouldn't send you a warranty replacement even if you had the official windows mobile on it. that is because, after you read the terms and conditions of the warranty, it does not include and in fact states quite clearly that 'excessive' use of the usb cable resulting in damaged charging port will not be replaced.
i realise this is not very helpful, so allow me to be helpful!
download the wizard service manual, if you PM me your email address i can email you a copy of one
what you will have to do is first obtain a new mini usb port from ebay or somewhere similar, i will try to hunt one down in america for you
following the service manual, you need to dismantle your handset, use some sort of rubbing alcohol (nail varnish remover) to get rid of the super glue you put on, first try to re-solder the old connector back onto where it came, or if not solder on the new one after removing the old one.
to be honest, you dont have anything to lose, but you could gain a working mda again!
good luck, and just a disclaimer to say im not responsible for any damage done to yourself, your device or anything else.
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I sent you a PM with my email
dharvey
hi
so sry to hear about ur accident and damaged MDA
t-mobile will certainly wont give u warranty replacement. It happened with me once also and only way out was ,I took it to a mobile repair shop and got the usb connector replaced for very nominal price.
duke_stix is right,get a mini usb and solder it. If u can do it,very well or take it to a techy to do it properly.
Once it's repaired it will be as good as new,goodluck
duke_stix said:
hi
t-mobile wouldn't send you a warranty replacement even if you had the official windows mobile on it. that is because, after you read the terms and conditions of the warranty, it does not include and in fact states quite clearly that 'excessive' use of the usb cable resulting in damaged charging port will not be replaced.
i realise this is not very helpful, so allow me to be helpful!
download the wizard service manual, if you PM me your email address i can email you a copy of one
what you will have to do is first obtain a new mini usb port from ebay or somewhere similar, i will try to hunt one down in america for you
following the service manual, you need to dismantle your handset, use some sort of rubbing alcohol (nail varnish remover) to get rid of the super glue you put on, first try to re-solder the old connector back onto where it came, or if not solder on the new one after removing the old one.
to be honest, you dont have anything to lose, but you could gain a working mda again!
good luck, and just a disclaimer to say im not responsible for any damage done to yourself, your device or anything else.
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Good advice except don't use rubbing alcohol, it damages plastic. Use adhesive remover instead. (At my hospital we use little adhesive remover wipes similar to the alcohol prep pads.) We are told to use this method when cleaning adhesives from plastics and it works.
duke_stix said:
hi
t-mobile wouldn't send you a warranty replacement even if you had the official windows mobile on it. that is because, after you read the terms and conditions of the warranty, it does not include and in fact states quite clearly that 'excessive' use of the usb cable resulting in damaged charging port will not be replaced.
i realise this is not very helpful, so allow me to be helpful!
download the wizard service manual, if you PM me your email address i can email you a copy of one
what you will have to do is first obtain a new mini usb port from ebay or somewhere similar, i will try to hunt one down in america for you
following the service manual, you need to dismantle your handset, use some sort of rubbing alcohol (nail varnish remover) to get rid of the super glue you put on, first try to re-solder the old connector back onto where it came, or if not solder on the new one after removing the old one.
to be honest, you dont have anything to lose, but you could gain a working mda again!
good luck, and just a disclaimer to say im not responsible for any damage done to yourself, your device or anything else.
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Thanks. Have you had any luck trying to find a service manual? I have been looking but with no success...
Well I managed to find a wizard service manual written in English for the US and got my MDA taken apart correctly without damaging it(I hope) only to find that all 9 contacts for the USB port are completely severed. Unfortunately I don't have the soldering skills to fix this on my own and there are no local repair shops where I can get it fixed seeing as how I am also out of a car...(see first post) so I am back to a Razr... UGH.... Anyways, I will remain an active member of the community and continue to help others with issues they may be having and help others flash roms because I found that I enjoy helping others.
I will, however, be leaving for a period of time in a few months because I am being deployed and most likely will not be returning with a Wizard but an HTC TyTN II. Don't worry though, I won't forget my friends back here in the Wizard forum( I know too much about these things to just pack up and leave now...)
Hi
sry to hear that,
But just another idea popped in my mind,if u can manage to get mini usb port than u can take it to any electronics repair shop, like tv,radio or any pc repair shop,it can be soldered,since u say u have the service manual u can show them the circuit layout,they can fix it.
yet,if u happen to have any sort or make of mobile (Motorolla,Nokia,samsung) which is pretty old and spent,of which u got no use,c if it has a mini usb port,usually every mobile does have it,and it has 9 connectors,take it out and get it soldered to ur mda.
Well, since its gonner,there's no harn in trying,
zabardast_1 said:
Hi
sry to hear that,
But just another idea popped in my mind,if u can manage to get mini usb port than u can take it to any electronics repair shop, like tv,radio or any pc repair shop,it can be soldered,since u say u have the service manual u can show them the circuit layout,they can fix it.
yet,if u happen to have any sort or make of mobile (Motorolla,Nokia,samsung) which is pretty old and spent,of which u got no use,c if it has a mini usb port,usually every mobile does have it,and it has 9 connectors,take it out and get it soldered to ur mda.
Well, since its gonner,there's no harn in trying,
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Thats a good idea, but I will probably just end up buying a new one off ebay for my girlfriend and play with hers all the time and then I already bought a TyTN II for myself.
Thanks.
So how about that manual??
That would be Sweeeet !!
[email protected]
Thanks for any consideration this may get :thumbsup:
TainT said:
So how about that manual??
That would be Sweeeet !!
[email protected]
Thanks for any consideration this may get :thumbsup:
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Here is a download link. I just uploaded it.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BEG0XKM8
and a mirror:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E11DVNQC
What a resource
The links an awesome asset, Im sure peepz will be benefiting for years thanks to you.
Thank You Sir...
dharvey4651 said:
Well I managed to find a wizard service manual written in English for the US and got my MDA taken apart correctly without damaging it(I hope) only to find that all 9 contacts for the USB port are completely severed. Unfortunately I don't have the soldering skills to fix this on my own and there are no local repair shops where I can get it fixed seeing as how I am also out of a car...(see first post) so I am back to a Razr... UGH.... Anyways, I will remain an active member of the community and continue to help others with issues they may be having and help others flash roms because I found that I enjoy helping others.
I will, however, be leaving for a period of time in a few months because I am being deployed and most likely will not be returning with a Wizard but an HTC TyTN II. Don't worry though, I won't forget my friends back here in the Wizard forum( I know too much about these things to just pack up and leave now...)
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First and Foremost,
Thank you sir, for answering the call of your nation. This American & his family thanks you from the bottom of our hearts.
In my ancestral culture's view, a patriot is second only to Saints & the Lord himself. May God watch over you & your team members.
I HAD to tell you that because every serviceman needs to know just how much Americans honor and cherish you!!!
(NEVER pay attention to the liberal media, they are sick diseased haters & hypocrites who are lucky to live in a land where they are allowed to lambast & denegrate those who are truly honorable.)
About your wizard, there are several ways to connect electronic components these days. If an adhesive was used, forget about it. If it was truly soldered, nothing can be easier! You can do it yourself (make sure to get a bulb vacuum for removing old solder and a modern soldering gun). It is so easy, in fact, that a authorized repair facility may do it for you for cheap! And you could always mail it to them, too.
Good Luck & God Speed dharvey4651.
similar problem?
My MDA will charge fine through the USB cable, but will not sync/connect -- it's not even appearing in Device Manager.
Does anyone know if this is definitely a hardware issue, presumably involving the USB port?
Thanks in advance,
Will Stewart
it is possible, your USB cable has problem or try another PC.
If you still cannot fix, donate to me ...
Hello! could people please share tips and things to remember when buying a used universal? I mean what are the things that you should do to check or find tell tale signs of defect, hardware, the firmware the os, I have already done a search in the forums and already know some, but there might be things that I have missed, so help would be very nice, I will be meeting the seller so I get to inspect the device up close so it would be nice to armed with the info how to inspect the device from how to check the bootload etc.
Thanks for the help and I hope that this helps others too
The Universal can be bought cheap at german eBay. Look for MDA PRO. You should be able to purchase one for around or less than 100 Euro.
Preferably look for the following signs:
1) Unmodded. Many users got the Universal within a contract from the operator, but did not use it much, because it is too big for them. Such Universals are normally in good condition. When advertised that it ships with an OS different than WM5, you know that the owner has been flashing it. I personally don't like that, because that means it belonged to a power user and must be more worn out.
2) Warranty stickers. Make sure the hinges have the warranty stickers inside. If they are missing, the device has been opened. You don't want to purchase one that has been opened.
3) Screen. Screen should be without scratches and should have had always a screen protector.
4) Speaker. The external speaker which is used for calls can break, as it is fitted with some kind of pogo pins. Make sure it is working.
If you get to test the device first, do as this:
- do a call (bring your SIM card)
- check WLAN and Bluetooth (bring a headphone and try it somewhere with WLAN activity)
- bring a SD card and see if it is read
- check for bad pixels
- play a song
- take a picture
- try the keyboard and touch screen
- try all the buttons
If everything works, that is the best you can check it for.
Of course it could break the next day, but it shouldn't.
Cheers,
vma
Great guide vma!
I´ll just add:
Take special care on the swivel piece (The one that gives Uni it´s great and unbeatable form factor: PDA - Micro Lap top)
take care of another thing when i bouted my universal after i used it for about 1 week the phone was hangs soo much the reason was in the memory crd .....so you must try a memory crd and play a small video on it about 10 minutes
The most important thing everyone forgot to mention is USB port. When looking for a device, see if the port moves in any way or wiggles in its opening. See if the device synchronises with AS, charges etc.
The fact the device had been flashed or opened wouldn't play a huge part for me if everything else works well and the body is in sound condition, e.g. the hinge is not loose, the screen rotates and closes properly, all keys are present and work, keyboard backlight works with and without sensor etc.
Speakers don't just break, as post No2 claims (POGO PINS??), but it is good to check that phone is capable of making/receiving calls, you can hear the other party and the other party can hear you, can play music and earphone plug is in working condition/attached properly
Not reading SD or SIM card is a biggie, dim screen, lost touch sensitivity, scratched or damaged digitizer, worn out buttons - all obvious signs. You can open the back, remove the battery and SIM card and check for a small white blotting paper sticker covering the small mainboard pins under the SIM card, any change in color towards pink - do not buy.
@enigma1nz:
Shame on me, I did indeed forget the USB port!!! You should of course check both: charging and Active Sync connection. A broken USB connector is a mayor issue and hard to solder without proper equipment.
Regarding the speaker: I am speaking out of experience, as one faild on me. The speaker is like a small button and it has two contact plates. They are not pogo pins, but act like them. The speaker will be pressed by the case against two contact points on the PCB. What happens is that apparently some car-holders do too much pressure on the sides of the Universal casing, causing the speaker contacts to bend back and forth everytime the phone is placed or removed from the holder. After a few months the contact gets worse and worse until one of both plates brake off. Because they are so tiny, it is impossible to repair the speaker - believe me, I have tried. I ended up buying a new speaker cell at eBay.
Cheers,
vma
vma said:
@enigma1nz:
Shame on me, I did indeed forget the USB port!!! You should of course check both: charging and Active Sync connection. A broken USB connector is a mayor issue and hard to solder without proper equipment.
Regarding the speaker: I am speaking out of experience, as one faild on me. The speaker is like a small button and it has two contact plates. They are not pogo pins, but act like them. The speaker will be pressed by the case against two contact points on the PCB. What happens is that apparently some car-holders do too much pressure on the sides of the Universal casing, causing the speaker contacts to bend back and forth everytime the phone is placed or removed from the holder. After a few months the contact gets worse and worse until one of both plates brake off. Because they are so tiny, it is impossible to repair the speaker - believe me, I have tried. I ended up buying a new speaker cell at eBay.
Cheers,
vma
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And believe me, I repair devices for a living. Thanks for the run-through, although I could give you the same. It happened to you, doesn't mean it happens often or it is a fault in design. I could give you a list of design faults in quite a few models of expensive cellphones on the market today, the mentioned speakers are not one of them.
I appreciate, the help people! any more inputs? I am happy that all the previous posts were, about how to inspect the device upfront and some other useful tips what to check other inputs will be highly appreciated
Battery can be also considered. Some are sold with good batery some with dead battery. It is not so expensive, but costs something. In general if battery shows less than 50% and devidce still works (even under load) that is a good sign.
Also as for the touch screen - the best test is to open note taker and try to paint something. The painted line must exactly follow the stylus movement if it jumps somewhere, then the touch sensitive layer is bad. I bouht such UNI on eBay (was described as perfect working order), had to replace the digitizer myself.
I do prefer buying not working UNI's on Ebay with good display. Once I bought not booting one - mtty job fixed that. Other time I bouht one where the display was still off - the flex cable popped out from connector. Etc....
Thanks for all the advice people! now, please welcome me to the HTC universal family, (well actually, I have a Dopod 900 but what the heck all are the same right?) your inputs had been essential, for me to get my new baby without any hitches I hope that nothing manifests after the one week assurance the seller gave me
Special thanks to enigma1nz for all the patience and help provided to me I asked her a lot of questions in the pm's but she answered in full detail
Now I have my own device so I will be flashing away, I hope without any problems. Again my thanks to the community hopefully there are more inputs for others who are thinking of buying their 2nd hand universal via meet ups
Excellent news! Congratulations!!! And welcome to the Uni family, of course. As you can see, we are one friendly bunch, all help and support will always be available. Have fun
Damn, I was hoping to do a very good Marlon Brando Godfather impersonation with 'Welcome to the family'
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You started in the right direction!
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orb3000 said:
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You started in the right direction!
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No, sweetie, the right direction would be an Orb3000 impersonation and 'Welcome to the forums', but I was worried, being Orb2000, hehe, that I simply won't be able to compete with a more updated version
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No, sweetie, the right direction would be an Orb3000 impersonation and 'Welcome to the forums', but I was worried, being Orb2000, hehe, that I simply won't be able to compete with a more updated version
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LOL.........
enigma1nz said:
No, sweetie, the right direction would be an Orb3000 impersonation and 'Welcome to the forums', but I was worried, being Orb2000, hehe, that I simply won't be able to compete with a more updated version
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Thanks dear, you´re nice
you´ll be Orb4000!!!
Cheers and have a nice weekend,