Ok.. I'm so confused.
I just got a US version of the HTC Dual Touch from Best Buy. Apparently it's not even a Nike device. It's a Neon.
The only reason I know that is because I donwloaded and tried to installed the HTC Keyboard patch and it of course told me the patch was for Nike devices.
Regardless.. the problem I'm having is that in some applications, I cannot get the application to recognize the 20 key keyboard. What I mean is that it only registers numeric keys and the 1st letter of the other keys. So I can type 0-9, q, a, z, o, l, del, enter.
I've tried holding down the SYM key to get it to switch to another text entry mode and it won't.
The biggest problem I'm having is that my company uses Good Mobile Messaging. That means my email, calendar and address book are all served up through the Good suite of apps. And these apps won't recognize the keyboard properly.
I've also noticed this same problem using both the Windows Live and Google Search home screen plugins. They won't recognize the keyboard either.
Keyboard apps like TouchPal seem to work but I bought the dual to get the suretype keyboard.
Any ideas?
Your right.
Never noticed it because i don´t use those apps frequently. Maybe some Niki users could let us know if they ave the same issue.
I have the same problem as well. Got my Touch Dual from Best Buy. Found that the keyboard does not work in Goodlink and some other applications. Exactly the same symptoms reported by adamrogers. I'm disappointed to say the least.
Tried the keyboard patch from HTC's website and ran into the same "this is not a Nike" issue.
This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
sn707 said:
This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
It's just that stupid program from htc wich lets you choose what input to be used, (as far as i recon) the dual won't let you select the right input if you haven't selected a genuine wm textfield (like in opera 9.x, and the above mentioned apps). In my case, i can only enter numbers. Its a shame that htc uses a kind of software that doesn't recognizes those textfields...
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
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PCM Keyboard is an aftermarket keyboard it seems to confuse the device. I ended up using a cab from htc that disables xt9 and am much happier now...
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
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Weird.. Google plugin doesn't work for me. Do you have the 20-key? If so, it sounds like that CAB automatically enables ABC keyboard. Maybe they can make a CAB that enables XT9 by default. Who did you contact or where did you go to get that CAB?
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Does anyone know if and how I can use the touchscreen when the phone is open and I'm using the keyboard?
I like the keyboard, but some functions are not reachable and the touchscreen is disabled when phone is open. Can anyone help please?
Re: Would like to use touchscreen AND hard keyboard together
An alternative to the stick and the touchscreen is a Bluetooth mouse. I have the Think Outside mouse and it is very good. It comes with drivers for Windows Mobile. (And it works very well under Windows XP as well. XP's has built-in HID drivers.)
Practice, Practice, Practice
I put the stylus between my index and middle finger when I'm typing so that I can quickly use it when I need to. The keyboard is missing \ and highlighting, jumping, saying OK, etc. all happen much faster with the stylus. Not a perfect solution but OK.
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I put the stylus between my index and middle finger when I'm typing so that I can quickly use it when I need to. The keyboard is missing \ and highlighting, jumping, saying OK, etc. all happen much faster with the stylus. Not a perfect solution but OK.
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Can you confirm that your touchscreen is still working when you've opened your phone and are using the keyboard. My touchscreen isn't working anymore as soon as I open the phone. I'm looking for a way to use both functionalities at the same time!
thanks
Ys
Yes, I can use both, T-Mobile MDA
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Does anyone know if and how I can use the touchscreen when the phone is open and I'm using the keyboard?
I like the keyboard, but some functions are not reachable and the touchscreen is disabled when phone is open. Can anyone help please?
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Never heard of the touchscreen not working when the keyboard is open. What wizard do you have?
I've tried to use several third party keyboard applications, but none of them will work.
The software installs OK, and the option to select the keyboard is in the dropdown box next to the keyboard icon on the screen, but I can not select the third party keyboard. I can select any of the other input options no problem.
I've tried five different third party keyboard programs now, and none of them work. Any ideas why?
Thanks
Maybe you are low on memory? Try to remove homescreen plugins, reset device and try again. Also you could find Default_IM_WM5.CAB on this forum in order to set default SIP (keyboard) automaticaly at startup.
I have exactly the same problem,
I tried resco keyboard and calligrapher, but impossible to use them (they apear y keyboard select and can select, but do not open)
it's not memory, as I use a XDA flame (2Gb rom /128Mb ram)
and Default_IM_WM5.CAB did't work
I removed spb pocketplus with no results
any other solution?
maybe some registry modification?
thanks
Same here.
Tried pmkeyboard, Spb Full Screen Keyboard and Zoomboard.
Same issue here
I've installed the spb fullscreen keyboard, resco, HTC softkey, and one other and I am having the same problem. I thing the registry is corrupted from all the adding and removing of kb's. Are you guys experiencing a very slow response when you hit the triangle to choose an alternate input method.
1. try upgrade to wm6
2. disable as many today items as you can
3. disable unused services in the registry
4. clean up unused startup programs
5. finally, if all the above won't work, backup and hard reset.
Yes, very slow response in the keyboard triangle selector,
but the rest of functions and applications go fast,
so it's not a memory problem
one more key:
if I choose resco keyboard with IMselector, and then uninstall IMselector, after next soft-reset I'm able to use resco keyboard (not callygrapher).
but in next soft-reset again the problem of impossible use of any third party keyboard ....
it's really extrange....
Finally I discovered the cause of the problem:
all the SPB products (pocket plus, phone suite, weather,...)
hope SPB fix this bug soon, as they are good products...
actually its more of a ms design bug than any particular product. the driver memory is quite limited by design - if too many service or dlls loaded, sip don't have the needed memory to run.
that has more sense....
I had same problem. After I updatet to WM6 moste SIP worked just fine. I strongly recomend to upgrade to WM6, the phone works a lot better since then (memory problems etc).
TourisT said:
Finally I discovered the cause of the problem:
all the SPB products (pocket plus, phone suite, weather,...)
hope SPB fix this bug soon, as they are good products...
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Yes, these are great apps, but I too have had quite a few problems with them - once requiring a hard reset after I tried their finance software.
SIP Change
The problem occurs because some AKU2 based service or process is changing the SIP back to the keyboard. This happens 4-8 seconds after startup programs run. As such, SIPChange is a workaround of sorts because when it runs at startup it waits 10 seconds before changing the SIP to your selected default.
This fixed it for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
hie guys what is the best keyboard based on your experience between resco keyboard and spb keyboard on the touch HD thanks
I tried the resco - it's got issues [as mentioned on the thread/wiki regarding what does and doesn't work on the HD]
Resco - the carriage return triggers annoyingly often unless you're absolutely 100% accurate....which really defeats the philosophy of much of the program IMO
Not tried the SPB on the HD - but seem to recall that the wiki states that doesn't work as well - dont quote me on that though - check it out
spb keyboard
I recommend you guys give a try to the new spb keyboard version 4.0..It is brilliant!
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I recommend you guys give a try to the new spb keyboard version 4.0..It is brilliant!
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its good but then the other features like auto correct,word suggestion and auto correct only work in landscape mode and i use opera mini more than opera mobile and because opera mini will not rotate to landscape mode i therefore cannot use auto correct which i very much like as i chat and type a lot using opera mini.
Iv tried all those keyboards and now im using the latest version of touchpal and in my opinion that is the best iv used. check this video out from youtube to see how it works
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrJ7Cci_A
I found Resco to be buggy. For no reason, the key preview popup stops whe you press a key. Also I hate not having a Control key. (Some of the downloaded skins look awful on the HD, fonts bunch up in one corner etc)
Spb is ok but I wish to god they would give us auto correct and word suggestion in portrait mode. Also I simply cannot get skins to work. If I download and install any skin, it does not become available in the options. Has anyone else had this trouble? any fix ???
TouchPal is buggy on my HD, some times it stops responding. I found that going into Remote Desktop to configure a client triggers this (but it happens elsewhere also)
So, they all have issues, they all have bloddy annoying issues. Is it to do with HD compabability or are they all badly coded and thought out ?
Please someone write a decent keyboard......
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Iv tried all those keyboards and now im using the latest version of touchpal and in my opinion that is the best iv used. check this video out from youtube to see how it works
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrJ7Cci_A
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why is it that most of these demo videos on youtube are without sound ???
I'll add my recomendation for touchpal. I've tried all of them but touchpal is better than spb, resco and pocketcm.
The only thing that i find negative about touchpal is that it doesn't spread out in landscape, stays in the center. Looks a bit odd.
Here is a comparison between the different virtual keyboards.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2008/08/31/Touch-keyboards-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
I've just installed TouchPal but how do you activate the keyboard?
It's still stuck on the default HTC KB. I can't find no app icon for TouchPal or any sign of it in input setting etc.
Many thanks
I suggest you guys try this keyboard
Well to start with you are presented with graphics options, and I have to say the default skin is very pleasing to the eye.
This keyboard offers 5 (five) !!! different keyboard layouts, all in one single, very little memory consuming application.
Having 5 layouts it's very easy to find your perfect choice.
But there's more, you actually have tons of powerful options like T9 (with language customized dictionaries, including the ability to add your new words), or the drag-and-drop over the keys to move them as you like (yes, you can actually move the keys arround with a simple drag).
Another powerful thing I like is that you can change the keyboard's height, you can make it full screen, or to any size you like, the keyboard will just get to the size you indicate.
Honestly, there are so many features, that you can't miss this! It's much much better then resco or spb's keyboard, it simply surpasses them with strong features.
There is a trial version (the pro version) here , and a freeware version too. There are several videos there too that are very helpful for discovering the features.
non-htc keyboard issue
One thing I have noticed is that non-htc keyboards (including transcriber) do not generate address lists when writing in the email or sms address bar. I have not tried Tesco but spb and resco have this limitation. Has anyone found a way to overcome this problem?
Neither Resco nor SPB. try TouchPal
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Neither Resco nor SPB. try TouchPal
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Does TouchPal bring up phone numbers when typing in sms addressee?
I truly admire people who are able to use TouchPal efficiently, but I'm not one of them. I tried it as my only input method for about a month, making an effort to investigate all the tips and tricks and shortcuts. In the end I found it to be clumsy and over-engineered. I downloaded a trial of SPB 4 and within 2 hours had paid the $15 for the full version. It is easy to use in portrait or landscape and has a CTRL key on the default keyboard. It just behaves the way I expect a keyboard to work and doesn't expect me to learn anything about it in order to get the most out of it.
Danish layout
If I purchase a keyboard for my future HD, will it then automatically have a danish layout with the danish letters such as "å,æ, and ø"?
Hope someone knows the answer
Thanks in advance
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Btw, sorry for off-topic..
True about Resco keyboard buggyness.
Spb keyboard 4.0 runs much smoother.
Very nice feature by switching full screen to mid screen.
Ned to try it in Opera Mobile.
Do you rely need all those layouts?
What about auto correct and stuff in other languages?
PS.: If you come across spb keyboard 4.0 k e y msg me!
I'd be happy with my Spb full-screen keyboard if the damn thing would just stay as the default after a soft reset! If anyone knows this, please feel free to chime in.
EDIT: Yes, I already tried SIPchange, and having a prog crash after every soft reset is not cool either.
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I'd be happy with my Spb full-screen keyboard if the damn thing would just stay as the default after a soft reset! If anyone knows this, please feel free to chime in.
EDIT: Yes, I already tried SIPchange, and having a prog crash after every soft reset is not cool either.
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I searched for this as well; SKTools does the trick. It can't trick the system to use SPB Keyboard as default, but it changes the SIP to whatever you like, in background, after every reset (you need to specify a long enough delay so that the TF3D can load before that - I set mine to 40 seconds and it works as it should). Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Rok
in my opinion, Touchpal is the best among all the keyboards I have tried. For those trying to set default keyboard and fail, try using SIPChange and set the time to 30 seconds. Mine works without problem with Touchpal. Hope it helps.
Hi all,
I just had an idea: I was wondering, if it is possible to connect the X1 either by bluetooth, WLAN or USB to the PC and use the X1 keyboard as a keyboard for the PC.
I was also thinking, that the touchscreen could be used as a kind of touchpad (like on notebooks) to control the mouse pointer on a connected PC.
So I was searching the Internet if anybody wrote a software that can just do this, but had no luck. So my question is: Does anybody know a software that can just do this?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: I know there are some remote controls for winamp & co but this is not what I'm looking for. Actually I'd like to have something like this for a much more smaller amount of money by using my xperia and a special software.
foo said:
Hi all,
I just had an idea: I was wondering, if it is possible to connect the X1 either by bluetooth, WLAN or USB to the PC and use the X1 keyboard as a keyboard for the PC.
I was also thinking, that the touchscreen could be used as a kind of touchpad (like on notebooks) to control the mouse pointer on a connected PC.
So I was searching the Internet if anybody wrote a software that can just do this, but had no luck. So my question is: Does anybody know a software that can just do this?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: I know there are some remote controls for winamp & co but this is not what I'm looking for. Actually I'd like to have something like this for a much more smaller amount of money by using my xperia and a special software.
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There's something on this very forum for a VERY small amount of money - all you have to do is learn how to search and it's yours. I'll even give you a clue - it' in the "Development & Hacking" section.
Go here http://t2remotetouch.blogspot.com
Is there a thing like that that use bluetooth only? like a usual bluetooth keyboard or mouse.
like that: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/features/bluetooth.mspx
Thanks kostis60, this goes in the right direction, though it lacks the touchpad feature which I'd need really badly. This app is more like "Windows Remote Desktop" or VNC.
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There's something on this very forum for a VERY small amount of money - all you have to do is learn how to search and it's yours. I'll even give you a clue - it' in the "Development & Hacking" section.
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Are you also referring to the application mentioned by kostis60 or is there something else?
foo said:
Thanks kostis60, this goes in the right direction, though it lacks the touchpad feature which I'd need really badly. This app is more like "Windows Remote Desktop" or VNC.
Are you also referring to the application mentioned by kostis60 or is there something else?
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nueUSBkeyboard is what I use - nt bothered about track pad - I think there is something that works with this but not sure of name.
And there's a paid for prg that works over bluetooth aswell but again its name slips my mind
Check out Pebbles. It allows controlling of the PC via Touchpad and Keyboard (Hard- and Softwarekeyboard). It is for free and works via Bluetooth and Wifi.
Nice Gadget but a wireless mouse and keyboard is more convenient from my perspective.
You could also use MS Remote Desktop Client to atke remote control of your PC.
Also LogMeIn works even better.
I think he is more looking for software to make the device a mouse/keyboard, not remote desktop software. These are two very different things. +1 for nueUSBkeyboard though.
Mobileremote by mobilesrc is what you are looking for.
Works like a charm for me.
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx
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Mobileremote by mobilesrc is what you are looking for.
Works like a charm for me.
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx
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YES! That is exactly what I was looking for!
Great! Thanks
MobileSRC MobileRemote Xperia Issues
Okay, is it just me or is anybody else having the following issue with the Xperia keyboard when using MobileSRC MobileRemote..?
When I use the keyboard all of the 'Blue' characters are displayed rather than the letters. The only button that also has a 'Blue' character assigned to it which works correctly is 'Q'.
The buttons without 'Blue' characters (A, S, D, F, G, @, Z, X, C, V, RETURN, TAB, DEL) work fine.
'W' gives me ", 'E' gives me /, 'R' gives me & and so on.
Shift doesn't work either.
I've tried pressing the blue button, Sym and everything else but no change.
Any ideas?
Regards
Sonny
sonnysoul said:
Okay, is it just me or is anybody else having the following issue with the Xperia keyboard when using MobileSRC MobileRemote..?
When I use the keyboard all of the 'Blue' characters are displayed rather than the letters. The only button that also has a 'Blue' character assigned to it which works correctly is 'Q'.
The buttons without 'Blue' characters (A, S, D, F, G, @, Z, X, C, V, RETURN, TAB, DEL) work fine.
'W' gives me ", 'E' gives me /, 'R' gives me & and so on.
Shift doesn't work either.
I've tried pressing the blue button, Sym and everything else but no change.
Any ideas?
Regards
Sonny
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I have the same issue, but the developer announced a new bugfix release in the next couple of weeks also including some bugfixes for hardware keyboards.
I had tried this application before. At that time, it didn't yet work well with the X1. Now, however, it's getting really close to being fully functional.. nice!
Current issues I find annoying:
- HW keyboard support (always in FN mode)
- Touchpad can't go fullscreen (except for LMB and RMB ofc)
- Connecting it is a bit awkward (though should be full auto in retail version)
I'll soon be buying a media center with my TV. I'm hoping I can get my X1 to be the HID. Little more fixes and this app will do all I need.
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- Connecting it is a bit awkward (though should be full auto in retail version)
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I bought the application and connecting works like a charm.
As I need the touchpad functionality most of the time, I bought it even with the keyboard problem - still worth the money for me
In case I have to enter something, I switch to the software keyboard.
try this
sailing clicker -
does exactly what you ask...with extra media player functions etc.
http://www.salling.com/clicker/windows/
foo said:
I bought the application and connecting works like a charm.
As I need the touchpad functionality most of the time, I bought it even with the keyboard problem - still worth the money for me
In case I have to enter something, I switch to the software keyboard.
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Aye, I'll be waiting for a proper release, might buy it then.
HTC Ozone - Same as others, cannot use keys to accept the EULA. Cannot arrow down to "click" accept.
If this build is not "Smartphone compatible", someone needs to get on the marketing department and start sending some corrections. It's being posted *everywhere* that this is both Touch and Non-touch compatible.
Touchscreen & keypad (http://www.opera.com/mobile/) - It's even on your web page.
So, where's the beef?
you can install the fake cursor software and do what u want to do....BUT
i have tried the Opera 10 on my HD and guess what????NO flash support...still...i mean what the hell....SKYFIRE has that and works perfectly on all devices...Give that a try
What cursor software is this?
It's called FakeCursor. U will find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389384
Opera 10 beta 3 works now lawlessly on HTC Snap.
Only annoying thing is the keyboard which is useless.
Somebody managed to use the keyboard to scroll for example?