I've tried to use several third party keyboard applications, but none of them will work.
The software installs OK, and the option to select the keyboard is in the dropdown box next to the keyboard icon on the screen, but I can not select the third party keyboard. I can select any of the other input options no problem.
I've tried five different third party keyboard programs now, and none of them work. Any ideas why?
Thanks
Maybe you are low on memory? Try to remove homescreen plugins, reset device and try again. Also you could find Default_IM_WM5.CAB on this forum in order to set default SIP (keyboard) automaticaly at startup.
I have exactly the same problem,
I tried resco keyboard and calligrapher, but impossible to use them (they apear y keyboard select and can select, but do not open)
it's not memory, as I use a XDA flame (2Gb rom /128Mb ram)
and Default_IM_WM5.CAB did't work
I removed spb pocketplus with no results
any other solution?
maybe some registry modification?
thanks
Same here.
Tried pmkeyboard, Spb Full Screen Keyboard and Zoomboard.
Same issue here
I've installed the spb fullscreen keyboard, resco, HTC softkey, and one other and I am having the same problem. I thing the registry is corrupted from all the adding and removing of kb's. Are you guys experiencing a very slow response when you hit the triangle to choose an alternate input method.
1. try upgrade to wm6
2. disable as many today items as you can
3. disable unused services in the registry
4. clean up unused startup programs
5. finally, if all the above won't work, backup and hard reset.
Yes, very slow response in the keyboard triangle selector,
but the rest of functions and applications go fast,
so it's not a memory problem
one more key:
if I choose resco keyboard with IMselector, and then uninstall IMselector, after next soft-reset I'm able to use resco keyboard (not callygrapher).
but in next soft-reset again the problem of impossible use of any third party keyboard ....
it's really extrange....
Finally I discovered the cause of the problem:
all the SPB products (pocket plus, phone suite, weather,...)
hope SPB fix this bug soon, as they are good products...
actually its more of a ms design bug than any particular product. the driver memory is quite limited by design - if too many service or dlls loaded, sip don't have the needed memory to run.
that has more sense....
I had same problem. After I updatet to WM6 moste SIP worked just fine. I strongly recomend to upgrade to WM6, the phone works a lot better since then (memory problems etc).
TourisT said:
Finally I discovered the cause of the problem:
all the SPB products (pocket plus, phone suite, weather,...)
hope SPB fix this bug soon, as they are good products...
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Yes, these are great apps, but I too have had quite a few problems with them - once requiring a hard reset after I tried their finance software.
SIP Change
The problem occurs because some AKU2 based service or process is changing the SIP back to the keyboard. This happens 4-8 seconds after startup programs run. As such, SIPChange is a workaround of sorts because when it runs at startup it waits 10 seconds before changing the SIP to your selected default.
This fixed it for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
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hi
anyone have a problem with activating phone pad when writing SMS?
often this happens to me following soft-reset the keyboard pops up by default and changing to phone pad does not work. it kind of only half comes up and is non-functional. sometimes the whole sms application will crash. requires soft-reset and try again until it works.
thought it was a memory shortage, but i have reinstalled apps to storage and now have 28MB free, split into 17MB for programs and 11MB for storage, which should be ok.
maybe a conflict with something i'm running?
Yes, I have the same problem.
There are 2 posts in here about it, but no solution from what I can see. Would love someone to fix it.
I have a feeling it got something to do with Pocket informant. U running it ?
nope - so tick that one off :wink:
additional programs running at startup... lets see:
omega-one battery pack pro
omega-one program bar and other utilities
spb GPRS monitor
microsoft voice command
sbsh pocket weather
think that's about it.
any correlations?
rosco
I have installed all of them, But removed them after.
The only one still installed is voice command
just had the pleasure of reinstalling everything after a required hard reset (curruption on the sd card leading to lots of lock-ups - my fault for getting impatient and disconecting the activesync during an avantgo update!).
anyway, the phone pad was back to perfect functioning until i installed voice command. its now uninstalled again and will stay that way :?
do you have voice command installed to main memory or storage?
i have installed it in storgage. but i have tried both places
I tried to set the Intellipad as the default SIP but after a soft reset it reverts to Keyboard automatically.
Switching it manually before replying a message sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
I tried re-installing Intellipad, but still have the same problem. I'm using the QTEK 1.11 ROM.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
It is true that after a soft reset the sip will go back to default, keybord. To change it you has edit the registry at HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip by changing the "DefaultIm" value, but I don't know the value for Intellipad. For Block recognizer as default sip change the value to {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}. Maybe other know the value for intellipad...
I've encountered that before, just use tweak2k2net and disabled those inputs that you do not need to use, leave only phonepad & keyboard (for me), perform a software reset and it will work again. (I've even have tengo Thumb keyboard) installed as well.
Have you got a link for tweak2k2net ?
I found it
http://www.tweaks2k2.com/
Unfortunately none of these suggestions worked. I can live with the SIP switiching to keyboard as default. What I can't stand is the fact that I have to reset my PPC every time I switch from Keyboard to Phonepad and vice versa.
Can someone pls try switching between keyboard and Phonepad for a couple of times and see if it works fine?
I have no problems what so ever.
Running ROM 1.11.00 on Qtek S100
It was determined by a very helpful person on PocketPCThoughts.com that resources for the SIP are shared with the Today plug-ins. So, if you have too many Today plug-ins or one Today plug-in that is resource intensive, chances are that your third-party SIP will fail to function.
I verified it by disabling all the Today plug-ins and it worked like a charm upon the next reset. Then, I started enabling the plug-ins one by one until I found out how much it can take before Intellipad (or TenGO Thumb) will just pull up the keyboard.
Too bad it's a Microsoft issue.
One of the few programs that seemed to have overcome this issue is Spb Full Screen Keyboard. I think Resco Keyboard is another one, but when they don't satisfy your needs, who cares about these two products.
I really enjoy Intellipad and the new TenGO Thumb, but you'll have to realize they are sensitive to the available resources that the Pocket PC provides. Perhaps contacting the developers would make them see the light, but I doubt it much.
I'm trying to see if I can come up with an alternative to the many Today plug-ins I have. I tried Snoopsoft Dashboard, but I got the same results, but of course, this is after many installs/uninstalls. I'm going to start fresh with a hard reboot and rebuild my Pocket PC software setup from scratch.
You can read the correspondence of how I got this issue addressed on PocketPCThoughts here:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353877
BeyondtheTech, thanks very much for your reply. That explains it! I just need to decide which plug-in I can live without, SPB pocket plus or PhoneAlarm :-(
I have used pcoket PC devices from the Philip Velo1 and even before that. I have never faced memory loss like with the K-Jam. The device slows down with time but when I check the running programs list I see a full page list. As soon as I close them all the device performs well again.
Is there anyway of automatically clearing memory and closing running programs with the K-Jam (WM5) after say 2 or more programs running?
Hi.
What you need is to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29863
and then install PocketPlus 3.0.1 . Problem solved
if you want to go fastter then read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30011
and do what it say's .
but like everything in life do yer research before you take a risk .
I did, and the results were great . 200% improvement in performance and useability.
Thanks for the response. By the way I have already removed the Antivirus software.
But how does the PocketPlus help?
By the way I have tried the latest PocketPlus and it still crushed my k-Jam on reset.
alman said:
Thanks for the response. By the way I have already removed the Antivirus software.
But how does the PocketPlus help?
By the way I have tried the latest PocketPlus and it still crushed my k-Jam on reset.
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Check to make sure you have version 3.0.3 of PocketPlus as my K-JAM crashed every time with 3.0.1. It wasnt until i downloaded 3.0.3 that i was able to boot normally. You could also disable the safe mode feature in Pocket Plus options before you reset which fixes the boot problem with earlier 3.x releases.
EDIT: SPB Software now has a note on the PocketPlus version history informing that the Wizard specific issues with safe mode have been fixed as of v3.0.4.
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/history.html?en
Pocket Plus has a feature where you can change the behaviour of the close button [X] so it can close apps instead of minimise or even popup a menu with more options. Have a search of the forum here, and over at www.modaco.com as there is heaps of info about Pocket Plus and other options for closing / minimising apps (some of them are even free).
Regards,
Chris
SPB Pocket Plus !!
can you provide me a link where to freely download Pocket Plus 3.0.3 or 3.0.4 ??? i'd appreciate it ...
thanx in advance.
If you're buying PocketPlus just for the task/memory manager, have a look at the many free alternatives, e.g. WisBar Advance, VBar, MagicButton, Pocket Nav, GSPocketMagic etc etc. Several (e.g. MagicButton, GSPocketMagic) allow you to set exception lists so you get to choose what gets automatically closed instead of minimized.
That's the best way with the Wizard, as some apps need to be kept in memory due to the slow loading times from ROM, e.g. Calendar, Contacts and Messaging. For URLs, Google is your friend.
I actually prefer managing what's running in the memory manually. gives me a feeling of control. I usually leave some of the frequent apps running. stuff like calendar, phone, activesync, IE.
I have installed the new official ROM for the Dopod with GPS enabled.
The problem is when I installed the arabic software (tried two different software), or even Resco Keyboard Pro, i can not swap the SIP to any except the windows preloaded ones.
I tried to play with the registry but could not find the right key.
Any Help please???
Calligrapher 2005 can't work either. Any suggest?
You have to restart the device before you can use third party SIP. Resco Keyboard pro worked after restarting my dopod d810.
Calligrapher 8.3 won't work for me either. Going to upgrade and see.
Finally it works! I doubt it was the upgrade to 8.4, but rather the many resets I did.
jnraptor said:
You have to restart the device before you can use third party SIP. Resco Keyboard pro worked after restarting my dopod d810.
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yes - but another reset it will stop , then might work or not,,
I tried the Resco Keyboard Pro, and it didn't work, after many resets etc. On their support page they explain that it's a wm5 problem related to HTC devices, but their solution doesn't work for me.
Too bad...uninstall.
hie guys what is the best keyboard based on your experience between resco keyboard and spb keyboard on the touch HD thanks
I tried the resco - it's got issues [as mentioned on the thread/wiki regarding what does and doesn't work on the HD]
Resco - the carriage return triggers annoyingly often unless you're absolutely 100% accurate....which really defeats the philosophy of much of the program IMO
Not tried the SPB on the HD - but seem to recall that the wiki states that doesn't work as well - dont quote me on that though - check it out
spb keyboard
I recommend you guys give a try to the new spb keyboard version 4.0..It is brilliant!
Avantis said:
I recommend you guys give a try to the new spb keyboard version 4.0..It is brilliant!
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its good but then the other features like auto correct,word suggestion and auto correct only work in landscape mode and i use opera mini more than opera mobile and because opera mini will not rotate to landscape mode i therefore cannot use auto correct which i very much like as i chat and type a lot using opera mini.
Iv tried all those keyboards and now im using the latest version of touchpal and in my opinion that is the best iv used. check this video out from youtube to see how it works
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrJ7Cci_A
I found Resco to be buggy. For no reason, the key preview popup stops whe you press a key. Also I hate not having a Control key. (Some of the downloaded skins look awful on the HD, fonts bunch up in one corner etc)
Spb is ok but I wish to god they would give us auto correct and word suggestion in portrait mode. Also I simply cannot get skins to work. If I download and install any skin, it does not become available in the options. Has anyone else had this trouble? any fix ???
TouchPal is buggy on my HD, some times it stops responding. I found that going into Remote Desktop to configure a client triggers this (but it happens elsewhere also)
So, they all have issues, they all have bloddy annoying issues. Is it to do with HD compabability or are they all badly coded and thought out ?
Please someone write a decent keyboard......
xdaman85 said:
Iv tried all those keyboards and now im using the latest version of touchpal and in my opinion that is the best iv used. check this video out from youtube to see how it works
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrJ7Cci_A
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why is it that most of these demo videos on youtube are without sound ???
I'll add my recomendation for touchpal. I've tried all of them but touchpal is better than spb, resco and pocketcm.
The only thing that i find negative about touchpal is that it doesn't spread out in landscape, stays in the center. Looks a bit odd.
Here is a comparison between the different virtual keyboards.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2008/08/31/Touch-keyboards-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
I've just installed TouchPal but how do you activate the keyboard?
It's still stuck on the default HTC KB. I can't find no app icon for TouchPal or any sign of it in input setting etc.
Many thanks
I suggest you guys try this keyboard
Well to start with you are presented with graphics options, and I have to say the default skin is very pleasing to the eye.
This keyboard offers 5 (five) !!! different keyboard layouts, all in one single, very little memory consuming application.
Having 5 layouts it's very easy to find your perfect choice.
But there's more, you actually have tons of powerful options like T9 (with language customized dictionaries, including the ability to add your new words), or the drag-and-drop over the keys to move them as you like (yes, you can actually move the keys arround with a simple drag).
Another powerful thing I like is that you can change the keyboard's height, you can make it full screen, or to any size you like, the keyboard will just get to the size you indicate.
Honestly, there are so many features, that you can't miss this! It's much much better then resco or spb's keyboard, it simply surpasses them with strong features.
There is a trial version (the pro version) here , and a freeware version too. There are several videos there too that are very helpful for discovering the features.
non-htc keyboard issue
One thing I have noticed is that non-htc keyboards (including transcriber) do not generate address lists when writing in the email or sms address bar. I have not tried Tesco but spb and resco have this limitation. Has anyone found a way to overcome this problem?
Neither Resco nor SPB. try TouchPal
hazem77 said:
Neither Resco nor SPB. try TouchPal
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Does TouchPal bring up phone numbers when typing in sms addressee?
I truly admire people who are able to use TouchPal efficiently, but I'm not one of them. I tried it as my only input method for about a month, making an effort to investigate all the tips and tricks and shortcuts. In the end I found it to be clumsy and over-engineered. I downloaded a trial of SPB 4 and within 2 hours had paid the $15 for the full version. It is easy to use in portrait or landscape and has a CTRL key on the default keyboard. It just behaves the way I expect a keyboard to work and doesn't expect me to learn anything about it in order to get the most out of it.
Danish layout
If I purchase a keyboard for my future HD, will it then automatically have a danish layout with the danish letters such as "å,æ, and ø"?
Hope someone knows the answer
Thanks in advance
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Btw, sorry for off-topic..
True about Resco keyboard buggyness.
Spb keyboard 4.0 runs much smoother.
Very nice feature by switching full screen to mid screen.
Ned to try it in Opera Mobile.
Do you rely need all those layouts?
What about auto correct and stuff in other languages?
PS.: If you come across spb keyboard 4.0 k e y msg me!
I'd be happy with my Spb full-screen keyboard if the damn thing would just stay as the default after a soft reset! If anyone knows this, please feel free to chime in.
EDIT: Yes, I already tried SIPchange, and having a prog crash after every soft reset is not cool either.
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I'd be happy with my Spb full-screen keyboard if the damn thing would just stay as the default after a soft reset! If anyone knows this, please feel free to chime in.
EDIT: Yes, I already tried SIPchange, and having a prog crash after every soft reset is not cool either.
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I searched for this as well; SKTools does the trick. It can't trick the system to use SPB Keyboard as default, but it changes the SIP to whatever you like, in background, after every reset (you need to specify a long enough delay so that the TF3D can load before that - I set mine to 40 seconds and it works as it should). Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Rok
in my opinion, Touchpal is the best among all the keyboards I have tried. For those trying to set default keyboard and fail, try using SIPChange and set the time to 30 seconds. Mine works without problem with Touchpal. Hope it helps.