hie guys what is the best keyboard based on your experience between resco keyboard and spb keyboard on the touch HD thanks
I tried the resco - it's got issues [as mentioned on the thread/wiki regarding what does and doesn't work on the HD]
Resco - the carriage return triggers annoyingly often unless you're absolutely 100% accurate....which really defeats the philosophy of much of the program IMO
Not tried the SPB on the HD - but seem to recall that the wiki states that doesn't work as well - dont quote me on that though - check it out
spb keyboard
I recommend you guys give a try to the new spb keyboard version 4.0..It is brilliant!
Avantis said:
I recommend you guys give a try to the new spb keyboard version 4.0..It is brilliant!
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its good but then the other features like auto correct,word suggestion and auto correct only work in landscape mode and i use opera mini more than opera mobile and because opera mini will not rotate to landscape mode i therefore cannot use auto correct which i very much like as i chat and type a lot using opera mini.
Iv tried all those keyboards and now im using the latest version of touchpal and in my opinion that is the best iv used. check this video out from youtube to see how it works
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrJ7Cci_A
I found Resco to be buggy. For no reason, the key preview popup stops whe you press a key. Also I hate not having a Control key. (Some of the downloaded skins look awful on the HD, fonts bunch up in one corner etc)
Spb is ok but I wish to god they would give us auto correct and word suggestion in portrait mode. Also I simply cannot get skins to work. If I download and install any skin, it does not become available in the options. Has anyone else had this trouble? any fix ???
TouchPal is buggy on my HD, some times it stops responding. I found that going into Remote Desktop to configure a client triggers this (but it happens elsewhere also)
So, they all have issues, they all have bloddy annoying issues. Is it to do with HD compabability or are they all badly coded and thought out ?
Please someone write a decent keyboard......
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Iv tried all those keyboards and now im using the latest version of touchpal and in my opinion that is the best iv used. check this video out from youtube to see how it works
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMrJ7Cci_A
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why is it that most of these demo videos on youtube are without sound ???
I'll add my recomendation for touchpal. I've tried all of them but touchpal is better than spb, resco and pocketcm.
The only thing that i find negative about touchpal is that it doesn't spread out in landscape, stays in the center. Looks a bit odd.
Here is a comparison between the different virtual keyboards.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/review/2008/08/31/Touch-keyboards-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
I've just installed TouchPal but how do you activate the keyboard?
It's still stuck on the default HTC KB. I can't find no app icon for TouchPal or any sign of it in input setting etc.
Many thanks
I suggest you guys try this keyboard
Well to start with you are presented with graphics options, and I have to say the default skin is very pleasing to the eye.
This keyboard offers 5 (five) !!! different keyboard layouts, all in one single, very little memory consuming application.
Having 5 layouts it's very easy to find your perfect choice.
But there's more, you actually have tons of powerful options like T9 (with language customized dictionaries, including the ability to add your new words), or the drag-and-drop over the keys to move them as you like (yes, you can actually move the keys arround with a simple drag).
Another powerful thing I like is that you can change the keyboard's height, you can make it full screen, or to any size you like, the keyboard will just get to the size you indicate.
Honestly, there are so many features, that you can't miss this! It's much much better then resco or spb's keyboard, it simply surpasses them with strong features.
There is a trial version (the pro version) here , and a freeware version too. There are several videos there too that are very helpful for discovering the features.
non-htc keyboard issue
One thing I have noticed is that non-htc keyboards (including transcriber) do not generate address lists when writing in the email or sms address bar. I have not tried Tesco but spb and resco have this limitation. Has anyone found a way to overcome this problem?
Neither Resco nor SPB. try TouchPal
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Neither Resco nor SPB. try TouchPal
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Does TouchPal bring up phone numbers when typing in sms addressee?
I truly admire people who are able to use TouchPal efficiently, but I'm not one of them. I tried it as my only input method for about a month, making an effort to investigate all the tips and tricks and shortcuts. In the end I found it to be clumsy and over-engineered. I downloaded a trial of SPB 4 and within 2 hours had paid the $15 for the full version. It is easy to use in portrait or landscape and has a CTRL key on the default keyboard. It just behaves the way I expect a keyboard to work and doesn't expect me to learn anything about it in order to get the most out of it.
Danish layout
If I purchase a keyboard for my future HD, will it then automatically have a danish layout with the danish letters such as "å,æ, and ø"?
Hope someone knows the answer
Thanks in advance
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Btw, sorry for off-topic..
True about Resco keyboard buggyness.
Spb keyboard 4.0 runs much smoother.
Very nice feature by switching full screen to mid screen.
Ned to try it in Opera Mobile.
Do you rely need all those layouts?
What about auto correct and stuff in other languages?
PS.: If you come across spb keyboard 4.0 k e y msg me!
I'd be happy with my Spb full-screen keyboard if the damn thing would just stay as the default after a soft reset! If anyone knows this, please feel free to chime in.
EDIT: Yes, I already tried SIPchange, and having a prog crash after every soft reset is not cool either.
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I'd be happy with my Spb full-screen keyboard if the damn thing would just stay as the default after a soft reset! If anyone knows this, please feel free to chime in.
EDIT: Yes, I already tried SIPchange, and having a prog crash after every soft reset is not cool either.
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I searched for this as well; SKTools does the trick. It can't trick the system to use SPB Keyboard as default, but it changes the SIP to whatever you like, in background, after every reset (you need to specify a long enough delay so that the TF3D can load before that - I set mine to 40 seconds and it works as it should). Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Rok
in my opinion, Touchpal is the best among all the keyboards I have tried. For those trying to set default keyboard and fail, try using SIPChange and set the time to 30 seconds. Mine works without problem with Touchpal. Hope it helps.
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I tried to set the Intellipad as the default SIP but after a soft reset it reverts to Keyboard automatically.
Switching it manually before replying a message sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
I tried re-installing Intellipad, but still have the same problem. I'm using the QTEK 1.11 ROM.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
It is true that after a soft reset the sip will go back to default, keybord. To change it you has edit the registry at HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip by changing the "DefaultIm" value, but I don't know the value for Intellipad. For Block recognizer as default sip change the value to {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}. Maybe other know the value for intellipad...
I've encountered that before, just use tweak2k2net and disabled those inputs that you do not need to use, leave only phonepad & keyboard (for me), perform a software reset and it will work again. (I've even have tengo Thumb keyboard) installed as well.
Have you got a link for tweak2k2net ?
I found it
http://www.tweaks2k2.com/
Unfortunately none of these suggestions worked. I can live with the SIP switiching to keyboard as default. What I can't stand is the fact that I have to reset my PPC every time I switch from Keyboard to Phonepad and vice versa.
Can someone pls try switching between keyboard and Phonepad for a couple of times and see if it works fine?
I have no problems what so ever.
Running ROM 1.11.00 on Qtek S100
It was determined by a very helpful person on PocketPCThoughts.com that resources for the SIP are shared with the Today plug-ins. So, if you have too many Today plug-ins or one Today plug-in that is resource intensive, chances are that your third-party SIP will fail to function.
I verified it by disabling all the Today plug-ins and it worked like a charm upon the next reset. Then, I started enabling the plug-ins one by one until I found out how much it can take before Intellipad (or TenGO Thumb) will just pull up the keyboard.
Too bad it's a Microsoft issue.
One of the few programs that seemed to have overcome this issue is Spb Full Screen Keyboard. I think Resco Keyboard is another one, but when they don't satisfy your needs, who cares about these two products.
I really enjoy Intellipad and the new TenGO Thumb, but you'll have to realize they are sensitive to the available resources that the Pocket PC provides. Perhaps contacting the developers would make them see the light, but I doubt it much.
I'm trying to see if I can come up with an alternative to the many Today plug-ins I have. I tried Snoopsoft Dashboard, but I got the same results, but of course, this is after many installs/uninstalls. I'm going to start fresh with a hard reboot and rebuild my Pocket PC software setup from scratch.
You can read the correspondence of how I got this issue addressed on PocketPCThoughts here:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=353877
BeyondtheTech, thanks very much for your reply. That explains it! I just need to decide which plug-in I can live without, SPB pocket plus or PhoneAlarm :-(
I'm currently using Resco Keyboard instead of the built-in one on my XDA Mini, simply cos it looks a lot nicer.
Can any recommend any other keyboard software that's good? I've tried TenGo and Fitaly, but I don't really want anything fancy that tries to speed up input time but re-arranging keys, etc.
Cheers
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I'm currently using Resco Keyboard instead of the built-in one on my XDA Mini, simply cos it looks a lot nicer.
Can any recommend any other keyboard software that's good? I've tried TenGo and Fitaly, but I don't really want anything fancy that tries to speed up input time but re-arranging keys, etc.
Cheers
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Spb's FSK? http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
I use Calligrapher 8.3 for a couple of reasons. It has a shift key on both sides, and you can create a customized numeric and "special key" keyboard in addition to the keyboard. That special keyboard comes in very handy for entering in contacts.
It's a bit pricey at 39.99USD, and I've found that the other features of Calligrapher aren't for me, but there's no denying that you get a lot more for the money than just the great keyboards it provides.
I've tried to use several third party keyboard applications, but none of them will work.
The software installs OK, and the option to select the keyboard is in the dropdown box next to the keyboard icon on the screen, but I can not select the third party keyboard. I can select any of the other input options no problem.
I've tried five different third party keyboard programs now, and none of them work. Any ideas why?
Thanks
Maybe you are low on memory? Try to remove homescreen plugins, reset device and try again. Also you could find Default_IM_WM5.CAB on this forum in order to set default SIP (keyboard) automaticaly at startup.
I have exactly the same problem,
I tried resco keyboard and calligrapher, but impossible to use them (they apear y keyboard select and can select, but do not open)
it's not memory, as I use a XDA flame (2Gb rom /128Mb ram)
and Default_IM_WM5.CAB did't work
I removed spb pocketplus with no results
any other solution?
maybe some registry modification?
thanks
Same here.
Tried pmkeyboard, Spb Full Screen Keyboard and Zoomboard.
Same issue here
I've installed the spb fullscreen keyboard, resco, HTC softkey, and one other and I am having the same problem. I thing the registry is corrupted from all the adding and removing of kb's. Are you guys experiencing a very slow response when you hit the triangle to choose an alternate input method.
1. try upgrade to wm6
2. disable as many today items as you can
3. disable unused services in the registry
4. clean up unused startup programs
5. finally, if all the above won't work, backup and hard reset.
Yes, very slow response in the keyboard triangle selector,
but the rest of functions and applications go fast,
so it's not a memory problem
one more key:
if I choose resco keyboard with IMselector, and then uninstall IMselector, after next soft-reset I'm able to use resco keyboard (not callygrapher).
but in next soft-reset again the problem of impossible use of any third party keyboard ....
it's really extrange....
Finally I discovered the cause of the problem:
all the SPB products (pocket plus, phone suite, weather,...)
hope SPB fix this bug soon, as they are good products...
actually its more of a ms design bug than any particular product. the driver memory is quite limited by design - if too many service or dlls loaded, sip don't have the needed memory to run.
that has more sense....
I had same problem. After I updatet to WM6 moste SIP worked just fine. I strongly recomend to upgrade to WM6, the phone works a lot better since then (memory problems etc).
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Finally I discovered the cause of the problem:
all the SPB products (pocket plus, phone suite, weather,...)
hope SPB fix this bug soon, as they are good products...
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Yes, these are great apps, but I too have had quite a few problems with them - once requiring a hard reset after I tried their finance software.
SIP Change
The problem occurs because some AKU2 based service or process is changing the SIP back to the keyboard. This happens 4-8 seconds after startup programs run. As such, SIPChange is a workaround of sorts because when it runs at startup it waits 10 seconds before changing the SIP to your selected default.
This fixed it for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Ok.. I'm so confused.
I just got a US version of the HTC Dual Touch from Best Buy. Apparently it's not even a Nike device. It's a Neon.
The only reason I know that is because I donwloaded and tried to installed the HTC Keyboard patch and it of course told me the patch was for Nike devices.
Regardless.. the problem I'm having is that in some applications, I cannot get the application to recognize the 20 key keyboard. What I mean is that it only registers numeric keys and the 1st letter of the other keys. So I can type 0-9, q, a, z, o, l, del, enter.
I've tried holding down the SYM key to get it to switch to another text entry mode and it won't.
The biggest problem I'm having is that my company uses Good Mobile Messaging. That means my email, calendar and address book are all served up through the Good suite of apps. And these apps won't recognize the keyboard properly.
I've also noticed this same problem using both the Windows Live and Google Search home screen plugins. They won't recognize the keyboard either.
Keyboard apps like TouchPal seem to work but I bought the dual to get the suretype keyboard.
Any ideas?
Your right.
Never noticed it because i don´t use those apps frequently. Maybe some Niki users could let us know if they ave the same issue.
I have the same problem as well. Got my Touch Dual from Best Buy. Found that the keyboard does not work in Goodlink and some other applications. Exactly the same symptoms reported by adamrogers. I'm disappointed to say the least.
Tried the keyboard patch from HTC's website and ran into the same "this is not a Nike" issue.
This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
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This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
It's just that stupid program from htc wich lets you choose what input to be used, (as far as i recon) the dual won't let you select the right input if you haven't selected a genuine wm textfield (like in opera 9.x, and the above mentioned apps). In my case, i can only enter numbers. Its a shame that htc uses a kind of software that doesn't recognizes those textfields...
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
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PCM Keyboard is an aftermarket keyboard it seems to confuse the device. I ended up using a cab from htc that disables xt9 and am much happier now...
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
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Weird.. Google plugin doesn't work for me. Do you have the 20-key? If so, it sounds like that CAB automatically enables ABC keyboard. Maybe they can make a CAB that enables XT9 by default. Who did you contact or where did you go to get that CAB?
Saw this posted above
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560821
Opera Mini 5 Beta has been released!!!!
Tried installing it on my Ozone using the Esmertec Jbed Java App and opera doesnt work.
So, un-installed it, installed the Rose JBed ver 20080808 - found here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438581
And so far so good... I think I like Opera Mini 5... we'll have to see though.
Now just working on creating a new shortcut for it
Edit - here's the shortcut to launch Mini 5 automatically, you just have to use the Rose JBed above and install it to your storage card.
Cool
Thanks for that Jbed to run it. Works pretty good but I put in a bug report about Jbed 20090216.5.1 so hopefully we can get it working on that one too.
thanks for the info. it looks much more slick than v.4 I don't know whether I like the cursor thing. I am used moving from field to field with button press.
I can't seem to sign into gmail. I have to play with it more.
...for some reson it's acting strange on my Snap....when I push the "a" on the keyboard, it reads it as "g" in Opera. It makes getting into my yahoo mail kinda problematic
I use Opera because it's FAST. Anyone have any opinions whether the new beta is as speedy as version 4.2?
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I use Opera because it's FAST. Anyone have any opinions whether the new beta is as speedy as version 4.2?
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haven't actually clocked it, but 5 seems faster than any previous version so far for me. The interface and tabs are very slick and snappy. now for that skinny unreadable font...apparently jbed rose is all it will run on atm, so I've been messing with my registry trying to change fonts...but all I've managed to do is change the environment font, opera still uses its same ugly proprietary font no matter what.
Obviously I'm digging in the wrong place...can anyone direct me to the correct registry or xml file to change the app font?
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haven't actually clocked it, but 5 seems faster than any previous version so far for me. The interface and tabs are very slick and snappy. now for that skinny unreadable font...apparently jbed rose is all it will run on atm, so I've been messing with my registry trying to change fonts...but all I've managed to do is change the environment font, opera still uses its same ugly proprietary font no matter what.
Obviously I'm digging in the wrong place...can anyone direct me to the correct registry or xml file to change the app font?
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Use JZ SmartMort. In the JZ Settings program: General Tweaks / Hacks -> JBed Java -> JBed Font Sizes. Mess around with them to your content.
Before you do that though, do take a look at the font settings within Opera Mini itself: Settings -> Font size
is anybody else having issues when typing any letters that also have numbers on them? ie. 'q=1','w=2','e=3', etc (on OZONE). Its acting like i have num lock on and its not actually typing in the letter, instead it works like a keypad on a dumbphone so i have to tap W/2 twice for a B.. this happens for all the number keys which makes this browser unusable!
please help!