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Greetings all,
Opera Mini 4 is one of the best browsers out there for any phone (regular phone or smartphone). Before getting the Touch, I had been using Opera Mini to surf the web on my regular phone.
One of the most convenient features in Opera Mini was the ability to use "Power Scrolling Shortcuts". Where you can scroll around on the web pages quickly by using the phone's number keys. Press 2 to go up, 4 to go left, 6 to go right and 8 to go down. Hitting 5 zooms you in and out.
The Touch isn't able to take advantage of the "power scrolling" because of its lack of of a keypad. Is there a way I can customize or map my D-pad to power scroll?
I've searched far and wide but with no solution in sight. I've also tried VITO ButtonMapper with no luck.
Thanks in advance for your inputs!
OperaMini on Sprint Touch
nguyendzuy said:
Opera Mini 4 is one of the best browsers out there for any phone (regular phone or smartphone). Before getting the Touch, I had been using Opera Mini to surf the web on my regular phone.
One of the most convenient features in Opera Mini was the ability to use "Power Scrolling Shortcuts". Where you can scroll around on the web pages quickly by using the phone's number keys. Press 2 to go up, 4 to go left, 6 to go right and 8 to go down. Hitting 5 zooms you in and out.
The Touch isn't able to take advantage of the "power scrolling" because of its lack of of a keypad. Is there a way I can customize or map my D-pad to power scroll?
I've searched far and wide but with no solution in sight. I've also tried VITO ButtonMapper with no luck.
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I'm surprised you can get OperaMini to run on the Touch! Every time I load it and run it, I get a Java runtime error. But I loved it on my last phone.
-- Oldan
Oldan said:
I'm surprised you can get OperaMini to run on the Touch! Every time I load it and run it, I get a Java runtime error. But I loved it on my last phone.
-- Oldan
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Yeah, I also had the same issue until I downloaded Cloudyfa's Jbed Midlet Manager. You can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1483665
This Jbed midlet manager seems to run faster and more stable than the one installed with Sprint's Touch. Additionally, it makes more efficient use of your screen by allowing Opera Mini to run in full screen mode.
umm... for me it's already set up like this. i just use the d-pad to scroll around the page.
is that what you mean? though the only way to zoom out is to hit the on-screen button.
Ok.. I'm so confused.
I just got a US version of the HTC Dual Touch from Best Buy. Apparently it's not even a Nike device. It's a Neon.
The only reason I know that is because I donwloaded and tried to installed the HTC Keyboard patch and it of course told me the patch was for Nike devices.
Regardless.. the problem I'm having is that in some applications, I cannot get the application to recognize the 20 key keyboard. What I mean is that it only registers numeric keys and the 1st letter of the other keys. So I can type 0-9, q, a, z, o, l, del, enter.
I've tried holding down the SYM key to get it to switch to another text entry mode and it won't.
The biggest problem I'm having is that my company uses Good Mobile Messaging. That means my email, calendar and address book are all served up through the Good suite of apps. And these apps won't recognize the keyboard properly.
I've also noticed this same problem using both the Windows Live and Google Search home screen plugins. They won't recognize the keyboard either.
Keyboard apps like TouchPal seem to work but I bought the dual to get the suretype keyboard.
Any ideas?
Your right.
Never noticed it because i don´t use those apps frequently. Maybe some Niki users could let us know if they ave the same issue.
I have the same problem as well. Got my Touch Dual from Best Buy. Found that the keyboard does not work in Goodlink and some other applications. Exactly the same symptoms reported by adamrogers. I'm disappointed to say the least.
Tried the keyboard patch from HTC's website and ran into the same "this is not a Nike" issue.
This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
sn707 said:
This may or may not help, but as soon a I uninstalled PCM Keyboard it was fine and was back to normal. I have not tried the mentioned apps though.
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
It's just that stupid program from htc wich lets you choose what input to be used, (as far as i recon) the dual won't let you select the right input if you haven't selected a genuine wm textfield (like in opera 9.x, and the above mentioned apps). In my case, i can only enter numbers. Its a shame that htc uses a kind of software that doesn't recognizes those textfields...
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So you are able to use the keyboard in apps like "Windows Live Search" from the Home Screen plugin?
I'm not even sure what PCM Keyboard is so unless it was already installed when I got the device, I don't have it installed.
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PCM Keyboard is an aftermarket keyboard it seems to confuse the device. I ended up using a cab from htc that disables xt9 and am much happier now...
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
UPDATE_ I just tried and it does not help when I enable the windows live plugin and try to search... Numbers still... Dang Google plugin works fine though
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Weird.. Google plugin doesn't work for me. Do you have the 20-key? If so, it sounds like that CAB automatically enables ABC keyboard. Maybe they can make a CAB that enables XT9 by default. Who did you contact or where did you go to get that CAB?
I just installed this, and i must say its much nicer than the default that comes with the TP2. But theirs a few things.
1. I cannot find the program to launch it again after i close it. When i look under the drop down of programs running, all thats listed is "Java FX", which when clicked, does take me back to the browser. Is their not its own icon? Or is their a way to link the new one to the "internet" tab in Touch flo?
2. Is their any way to keep it from poping up its own software keyboard?
[edit] Ok.. someone posted this solution::: Disable Inline Editing in Settings\Advanced...
3. When i type in the address bar, it sometimes, double types letters. Very annoying.
never mind
beta 5 unfortunately has problems with switches from landscape to portrait and vice versa.
when i pull out the keyboard in oder to type something of course the screen rotates. In about 50% of all cases the browser UI does not follow the rotation, but the screen just turns white.
opera 4 has no problems with screen rotations.
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Posted this question in another thread too but seems more appropriate here:
I came from the Mogul to the TP2 so I'm not so sure how to install and run Opera Mini 5. I'd like to try it, but do you still need a Java applet launcher to run it? Or can you just run it on the TP2 if you put the .jad and/or .jar files somewhere? Thanks.
thelionelking said:
I'm not so sure how to install and run Opera Mini 5.
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Follow the instructions on the opera website:
"To try Opera Mini 5 beta, simply visit the address m.opera.com/next, using your phone’s default Web browser."
in case the OEM of your phone pre-installed a suboptimal java runtime environment (or even none) try this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1170396#post1170396
mccune said:
Also check THIS thread about Opera mini 5 Beta.
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LOL, that link redirects us to this topic...
That said, I also have some minor problems with the new opera mini 5 beta. It look way more slick then the standard version of Opera, but there are a few things:
1. Just like Lyian stated, I as well hate the opera interface keyboard popping up and would really like to turn off this feature.
2. When I slide out my keyboard, the java applet notices this action and tells me to restart opera mini 5 :S (using JBlend, standard application deliverd on my tp2)
3. I would really like to have the possibility to make a shortcut to opera mini beta 5 in the start menu.
4. Everytime I restart the mini-browser, it asks me if it may connect to the network. I would really like to have the mini-browser never ask me this again.
Now I do remember that there were some solutions to my little problems mentioned above. With the old opera mini there were some tweaks that offered an solution to point 3 and 4, but I can't find them anywere. Does anybody know if they work as well for mini 5, and where I can find them? Does anybody have an solution to the other problems?
Thanks in advance,
b4kk3r
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2. When I slide out my keyboard, the java applet notices this action and tells me to restart opera mini 5 :S (using JBlend, standard application deliverd on my tp2)
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use jbed instead of JBlend. JBlend can not handle screen rotation at all (no matter whether the java application can or not).
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3. I would really like to have the possibility to make a shortcut to opera mini beta 5 in the start menu.
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use jbed and make a link in the startmenu folder to the jbed executable with the parameter "-run s0_".
b4kk3r said:
4. Everytime I restart the mini-browser, it asks me if it may connect to the network. I would really like to have the mini-browser never ask me this again.
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download the signed version of opera mobile
When I use the keyboard for typing an URL it results in a URL like xda-dddddevelopersssss.com or xdaaaaa-devvvvvelopers.commmm. I don't have any problems with the keyboard in other programs.
JBS2 said:
When I use the keyboard for typing an URL it results in a URL like xda-dddddevelopersssss.com or xdaaaaa-devvvvvelopers.commmm. I don't have any problems with the keyboard in other programs.
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*nods* same problem i stated above with the double typing.
b4kk3r said:
1. Just like Lyian stated, I as well hate the opera interface keyboard popping up and would really like to turn off this feature.
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Found the other post someone posted.
Disable Inline Editing in Settings\Advanced...
I just started playing with Mini 5, and it's freaking awesome with esmertec jbed. It's got the speed of Opera Mini, but it has some degree of flicking and it can copy/paste text! Mini 4.2 allowed you to copy and paste text when you switched to text entry mode, but you had to change the keyboard to the old full keyboard to utilize CTRL C and CTRL V. I can now highlight text on pages. Plus tabbed browsing! Remarkable.
I looked for a signed version of 5, but I couldn't find it (I was able to install the signed version for 4.2). Is there a trick I'm not aware of?
Mini 5 works for some of the forums I visit. I was unable to post in the Yuku forums with 4.2, and it would format oddly unless I was in mobile view. Screen transitions are a lot snappier.
I've never had any luck with screen orientation transitions with Opera Mini, so it's not a big deal for me. I'm used to using it exclusively in portrait mode anyway.
I think I've found myself a new browser. Anyone have any tips or tricks to share?
ETA: I'd love to get the flicking speed higher.
Does anyone know how to get the clock/time to show on the top border/frame? It's on Opera Mini 4.2 and it'd be cool to have it on this browser also. Thanks in advance !
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
hey thanks for the response my bay area friend, i'll give it a try
i figured to run the latest release of opera 9.7, so i havent really tested the previous versions. i'll give it a go though, thanks!
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I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
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Same build here, working flawlessly
Another one for 9.7 35432 build, the back button did it for me.
All Opera Mobile/Mini versions: Official thread
xredjokerx said:
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
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For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
My favorite is Opera Mini 4.2. I like the button control and the way pushing up and down jumps to links easily. Also right moves down a page and left moves up a page. I hardly ever touch the screen after remapping buttons with Keyboard Controller application. I only use Opera Mobile once in a while but that works fairly well with remapped buttons in version 9.5. Opera mini 5 beta doesn't work as well with buttons.
orb3000 said:
For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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i've already read that post over and over, and clicked multiple links, i just wanted to know which version rhodium users preferred and why
after some testing:
engadget website loading test: (reset cookies, hist, even RAM)
opera 9.7 35432 - 1.02m
opera 9.7 35432 T - 49s
opera 10 b2 - 1.28m
opera 10 b2 T - 1.05m
so im deducting that opera 9.7 is faster... im just debating on which build, since they're all so close in version numbers... but for now im sticking with 35432
last but not least. opera mini 5b2 is the best browser by far. interface, and dl times. amazing haha
Haven't seen this posted yet, so here you go.
Opera blog post:
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2010/09/09/opera-mini-5-1-for-windows-mobile
Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Mobile is here!
The long-awaited Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Phone 6.5, Windows Mobile 6, Windows Mobile 5, and Windows Mobile 2003 based handsets has finally arrived. We have worked days and nights to improve on every aspect of the browser and make it integrate even better with the Windows Mobile platform. Some highlights include default browser functionality and a completely rewritten IME solution that taps directly into the device's own input method. A big thanks to all our users on Windows Mobile who have waited so patiently for this release.
NEW FEATURES
- Ability to set Opera Mini as default browser on the device.
- Support for g-sensor screen rotation on HTC and Samsung devices.
- Support for predictive input if the device supports it natively.
- Improved page layout on high-resolution screens.
- Improved kinetic scrolling.
- Use HQVGA skin for devices with less than QVGA resolution.
- Installer is now signed with VeriSign so Opera Mini will be a trusted application on your handset.
- Alternative installer that works on Windows Mobile 2003 Pocket PC devices.
- Advanced configuration in registry for power-users (see here for more information).
BUG FIXES
- Multitap input is working on 'classic' keypad devices.
- Input is working on qwerty keypad devices by Samsung and Amoi.
- Keypad shortcuts working on more devices.
- Ability to download files to memory card.
- Clock in Opera Mini is correct in all time zones now.
- Spanish locale is correctly detected.
- URLs and downloaded files can be passed to other applications as a platform request.
- Many bug fixes in Opera Mini browser core for stability and rendering accuracy.
NOTES
- Opera Mini 5.1 will be installed in parallel with Opera Mini 5.0 beta if the latter is already installed on your device.
- Opera Mini 5.1 will not import existing user data from Opera Mini 5.0 beta. Please consider using Opera Link to bring over bookmarks and speed dials to the new version.
- When set as default browser, Opera Mini 5.1 will not be the default viewer application for html files or other web page related files that may exist locally on your device.
To download Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Mobile handsets visit http://m.opera.com/ on your phone or http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/pc/ on your PC.
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Opera Mini = Amazing
It is much faster and more fluid scrolling than either Skyfire or Opera mobile.
Coming from Android (and iPhone before that) the Hd2 was lacking a great web browsing experience but No More!
OMini 5 beta was nice, but I love the better scrolling in 5.1! I've been using OMini as my browser since my Wizard.
Does 5.1 support pinch-to-zoom?
Jimmmycrackcorn said:
Does 5.1 support pinch-to-zoom?
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I responded in the TmoUS HD2 thread but here you go:
i have always used mini in mobile view but iirc when a page is zoomed out it'll auto zoom to wherever you tap on the page. i don't think there is pinch to zoom.
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One wierd thing for me is if I press the home button while in landscape then Opera Mini sticks on the screen and doesnt go away unless I power off the phone. If I press the home button while in portrait its fine and goes away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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Does 5.1 support pinch-to-zoom?
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No pinch to zoom but all you do is tap on the screen once and it zooms in perfectly.
ap3604 said:
One wierd thing for me is if I press the home button while in landscape then Opera Mini sticks on the screen and doesnt go away unless I power off the phone. If I press the home button while in portrait its fine and goes away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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It's because the HD2 doesn't do landscape for the home tab. Next time you do that, just hit the start menu button & bring back OMini or any other app that does do landscape (sms, albums, file explorer) & then go back to portrait & then hit home. I ran in to this when using Comic Reader Mobi
Does anyone know how clearing the cache memory works on Opera Mini?
On the Opera Mobile browser it would have an option in the security settings to clear cache so the browser wouldnt slow down but I dont see that option on Opera Mini.
Ive done google searches for "opera mini clear cache" but didnt find anything conclusive. Mostly was blackberry users assuming that the clear history option in settings also clears the cache. One person also said the cache gets cleared when you exit the browser?
Does anyone with alot of Opera experience know how clearing the cache works on Opera Mini?
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It's because the HD2 doesn't do landscape for the home tab. Next time you do that, just hit the start menu button & bring back OMini or any other app that does do landscape (sms, albums, file explorer) & then go back to portrait & then hit home. I ran in to this when using Comic Reader Mobi
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Your a wise man thank you for letting me know =)
So there is no pinch to zoom? can someone confirm that?
If there is no pinch to zoom, i'm not gonna use it, because I really want to keep using pinch to zoom!
joshoon said:
So there is no pinch to zoom? can someone confirm that?
If there is no pinch to zoom, i'm not gonna use it, because I really want to keep using pinch to zoom!
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Read 3 posts above yours at #6...
Do you like the 5 mini, and why?
I've set it as default for it a week. Yes it loads faster, and the 9-grid home screen thumbnails looks better than the HD2 2-column thumbnails. I'm however switching back to the stock Opera 9.7 now. Things I don't like about Opera Mini 5:
Full screen or not, it hides my top bar, and together with it my battery indicator, clock, close button. I can't easily launch anything else or switch to another running program.
no way to minimize browser to go back to where I was
Really hates the complicated seqeunce to close the browser with the mandatory yes/no.
I can't find a way to add search providers to the search box. Well I can't modify the Opera google search either, but Opera Mini has an interface to look as if it can be configured (at least I can delete entries other than google) while not allowing me to add new entries.
force chinese language upon me. I have no idea why but all my settings are in chinese and I cannot find a way to get back to english.
Are there ways to circumvent this list of annoyances?
Does anybody know where I can find documentation on Opera Mini? I've found documentation on Opera, but they do not seem applicable to Opera Mini.
alex fung said:
Do you like the 5 mini, and why?
Full screen or not, it hides my top bar, and together with it my battery indicator, clock, close button. I can't easily launch anything else or switch to another running program.
hit the back button & then your back at HTC Sense
no way to minimize browser to go back to where I was
that's what the back button is for. this doesn't do like OMobile where the back button actually goes back a page
I can't find a way to add search providers to the search box. Well I can't modify the Opera google search either, but Opera Mini has an interface to look as if it can be configured (at least I can delete entries other than google) while not allowing me to add new entries.
I agree I wish you could edit this, but meh...
force chinese language upon me. I have no idea why but all my settings are in chinese and I cannot find a way to get back to english.
one of the links in my post goes to a post on Opera's site & discusses registry edits. I know there's one to change the language, maybe you need to do that.
Does anybody know where I can find documentation on Opera Mini? I've found documentation on Opera, but they do not seem applicable to Opera Mini. your best bet is their site in the thread that I linked to.
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Read 3 posts above yours at #6...
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Thats sad
back button. Thanks I hardly ever use the hardware buttons so I never noticed.
link in your post? Do you mean
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog...windows-mobile
I can't find any references to registry edits or language changes. Could you be a little more specific? Thanks.
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Thats sad
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As much as I like pinch zoom I must say that I absolutely LOVE the 1 touch super zoom of Opera Mini =)
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back button. Thanks I hardly ever use the hardware buttons so I never noticed.
link in your post? Do you mean
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog...windows-mobile
I can't find any references to registry edits or language changes. Could you be a little more specific? Thanks.
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I personally put in the edit to stop the auto rotate
ha i use the back button all the time!
Argh
I wanted to love Opera Mini. I love the quick zoom/scroll effects.
BUT after using it for a few days I've found annoyances that keep it from being a better browser than Opera Mobile.
- Certain websites take FOREVER to load (some sites load quicker than Opera Mobile i.e. Google searches, but Xda loads slllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooowwww)
- Certain websites dont work correctly and doesn't go to the next page when I click the link
- Can't log into certain websites like I can with Opera Mobile
- When I try to reply to XDA threads it reloads the entire page after I type something in the reply box.
- Cant clear cache memory like I can with Opera Mobile
- Cant exit Opera Mini in landscape by pressing home button since it locks up the phone
- Cant use physical back button to go back a page like you can with Opera Mobile
Oh well...
I like Opera mini too as it is a lot smoother than opera mobile. I do have one issue though:
When you enter a url, it will automatically load the mobile version if available. Not all the mobile site have a link back to their full web site so it is impossible to go to a normal page for some sites.
ap3604 said:
Argh
I wanted to love Opera Mini. I love the quick zoom/scroll effects.
BUT after using it for a few days I've found annoyances that keep it from being a better browser than Opera Mobile.
- Certain websites take FOREVER to load (some sites load quicker than Opera Mobile i.e. Google searches, but Xda loads slllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooowwww)
- Certain websites dont work correctly and doesn't go to the next page when I click the link
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forumx said:
I like Opera mini too as it is a lot smoother than opera mobile. I do have one issue though:
When you enter a url, it will automatically load the mobile version if available. Not all the mobile site have a link back to their full web site so it is impossible to go to a normal page for some sites.
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you know what, this happens to me with opera mobile too..
dan138zig said:
you know what, this happens to me with opera mobile too..
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The problems I listed with Opera Mini are ones that I don't have with Opera Mobile. So for me, it doesn't happen with Opera Mobile...