Xperia as remote Keyboard & Touchpad for PC? - XPERIA X1 General

Hi all,
I just had an idea: I was wondering, if it is possible to connect the X1 either by bluetooth, WLAN or USB to the PC and use the X1 keyboard as a keyboard for the PC.
I was also thinking, that the touchscreen could be used as a kind of touchpad (like on notebooks) to control the mouse pointer on a connected PC.
So I was searching the Internet if anybody wrote a software that can just do this, but had no luck. So my question is: Does anybody know a software that can just do this?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: I know there are some remote controls for winamp & co but this is not what I'm looking for. Actually I'd like to have something like this for a much more smaller amount of money by using my xperia and a special software.

foo said:
Hi all,
I just had an idea: I was wondering, if it is possible to connect the X1 either by bluetooth, WLAN or USB to the PC and use the X1 keyboard as a keyboard for the PC.
I was also thinking, that the touchscreen could be used as a kind of touchpad (like on notebooks) to control the mouse pointer on a connected PC.
So I was searching the Internet if anybody wrote a software that can just do this, but had no luck. So my question is: Does anybody know a software that can just do this?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: I know there are some remote controls for winamp & co but this is not what I'm looking for. Actually I'd like to have something like this for a much more smaller amount of money by using my xperia and a special software.
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There's something on this very forum for a VERY small amount of money - all you have to do is learn how to search and it's yours. I'll even give you a clue - it' in the "Development & Hacking" section.

Go here http://t2remotetouch.blogspot.com

Is there a thing like that that use bluetooth only? like a usual bluetooth keyboard or mouse.
like that: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/features/bluetooth.mspx

Thanks kostis60, this goes in the right direction, though it lacks the touchpad feature which I'd need really badly. This app is more like "Windows Remote Desktop" or VNC.
akp99 said:
There's something on this very forum for a VERY small amount of money - all you have to do is learn how to search and it's yours. I'll even give you a clue - it' in the "Development & Hacking" section.
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Are you also referring to the application mentioned by kostis60 or is there something else?

foo said:
Thanks kostis60, this goes in the right direction, though it lacks the touchpad feature which I'd need really badly. This app is more like "Windows Remote Desktop" or VNC.
Are you also referring to the application mentioned by kostis60 or is there something else?
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nueUSBkeyboard is what I use - nt bothered about track pad - I think there is something that works with this but not sure of name.
And there's a paid for prg that works over bluetooth aswell but again its name slips my mind

Check out Pebbles. It allows controlling of the PC via Touchpad and Keyboard (Hard- and Softwarekeyboard). It is for free and works via Bluetooth and Wifi.
Nice Gadget but a wireless mouse and keyboard is more convenient from my perspective.

You could also use MS Remote Desktop Client to atke remote control of your PC.
Also LogMeIn works even better.

I think he is more looking for software to make the device a mouse/keyboard, not remote desktop software. These are two very different things. +1 for nueUSBkeyboard though.

Mobileremote by mobilesrc is what you are looking for.
Works like a charm for me.
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx

mmaaxxii said:
Mobileremote by mobilesrc is what you are looking for.
Works like a charm for me.
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx
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YES! That is exactly what I was looking for!
Great! Thanks

MobileSRC MobileRemote Xperia Issues
Okay, is it just me or is anybody else having the following issue with the Xperia keyboard when using MobileSRC MobileRemote..?
When I use the keyboard all of the 'Blue' characters are displayed rather than the letters. The only button that also has a 'Blue' character assigned to it which works correctly is 'Q'.
The buttons without 'Blue' characters (A, S, D, F, G, @, Z, X, C, V, RETURN, TAB, DEL) work fine.
'W' gives me ", 'E' gives me /, 'R' gives me & and so on.
Shift doesn't work either.
I've tried pressing the blue button, Sym and everything else but no change.
Any ideas?
Regards
Sonny

sonnysoul said:
Okay, is it just me or is anybody else having the following issue with the Xperia keyboard when using MobileSRC MobileRemote..?
When I use the keyboard all of the 'Blue' characters are displayed rather than the letters. The only button that also has a 'Blue' character assigned to it which works correctly is 'Q'.
The buttons without 'Blue' characters (A, S, D, F, G, @, Z, X, C, V, RETURN, TAB, DEL) work fine.
'W' gives me ", 'E' gives me /, 'R' gives me & and so on.
Shift doesn't work either.
I've tried pressing the blue button, Sym and everything else but no change.
Any ideas?
Regards
Sonny
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I have the same issue, but the developer announced a new bugfix release in the next couple of weeks also including some bugfixes for hardware keyboards.

I had tried this application before. At that time, it didn't yet work well with the X1. Now, however, it's getting really close to being fully functional.. nice!
Current issues I find annoying:
- HW keyboard support (always in FN mode)
- Touchpad can't go fullscreen (except for LMB and RMB ofc)
- Connecting it is a bit awkward (though should be full auto in retail version)
I'll soon be buying a media center with my TV. I'm hoping I can get my X1 to be the HID. Little more fixes and this app will do all I need.

Angelusz said:
- Connecting it is a bit awkward (though should be full auto in retail version)
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I bought the application and connecting works like a charm.
As I need the touchpad functionality most of the time, I bought it even with the keyboard problem - still worth the money for me
In case I have to enter something, I switch to the software keyboard.

try this
sailing clicker -
does exactly what you ask...with extra media player functions etc.
http://www.salling.com/clicker/windows/

foo said:
I bought the application and connecting works like a charm.
As I need the touchpad functionality most of the time, I bought it even with the keyboard problem - still worth the money for me
In case I have to enter something, I switch to the software keyboard.
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Aye, I'll be waiting for a proper release, might buy it then.

Related

Bluetooth Mouse, will it work?

I was curious to find out if it's possible to use a bluetooth mouse from Belkin in the XDA II. What do you guys think? Useable, hackable?
You would need some software that makes a cursor, and some HID implementation, and make all this work together..
My only question is: WHY?
Why would you want such a thing?
I tried it with a MS Mouse, MDA can find it, but no connect , lack of Pin.
Mouse is a HID Device, think thinl MDA cannot connect to such devices.
I tried to use the mouse as a ramotecontrol for the PDA, but found no way.
what is HID? also what is SIP?
HID == human interface device
sip not sure i cant see anywhere in this thread where sip is written
so in what relation was it you heard sip
i mean if it was something your dentist said it would prob have a different meaning than if it was your machanic
Rudegar said:
HID == human interface device
sip not sure i cant see anywhere in this thread where sip is written
so in what relation was it you heard sip
i mean if it was something your dentist said it would prob have a different meaning than if it was your machanic
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SIP = Soft Input Panel ie. onscreen keyboard
Surur
When taking notes with the folding keyboard, it is quite an inconvenience to pick up the stylus, hop over to look up something, then go back to taking notes. a mouse next to the keyboard would make life much easier.
I also have the MS BT Mouse and would love a HID profile for the MDAII
Doug
RE
OK OK!
Now you have a BT mouse meant for your PPC from THINK OUTSIDE, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3605
I'll get a pre-sample this weekend.
I'll try to make a short-review of this. And post it for you guys.
cool, now all we need is a bluetooth USB host hub and we're sorted! 8) lol
Marc
Bonzo said:
You would need some software that makes a cursor, and some HID implementation, and make all this work together..
My only question is: WHY?
Why would you want such a thing?
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I would want it because I have gota Bluetooth keyboard which means I can word process when out and about when needs be - but the use of a proper mouse would make this a lot easier - after all - if my hands are on the keyboard, I don't want to be constanty getting the stylus or using the buttons as I am no longer holding the device.
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FOSA said:
OK OK!
Now you have a BT mouse meant for your PPC from THINK OUTSIDE, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3605
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Can anyone tell me if this works before I jump in. I have an MDAIII and I havent' upgraded the rom at all. I have tried not alter anything that may make it worse! I use a BT keyboard and would adore a mouse too
Does enyone has patched version of thinkoutside driver ? For WM5...

'Would like to use Sprint Mogul by HTC (Titan) hardware keyboard on desktop...

Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
kain144000 said:
Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
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im not knocking your idea at all.
but in my opinion that would be horrible. i've never encountered a time in my life where a pc didnt have a keyboard, and as much as i love the mogul FOR it's full keyboard, it's still a noghtmare to type on it.
im actually not bad with it, if only the keys were a tad wider, so i wouldnt press two of them at the same time
kain144000 said:
Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
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I applaud your efforts, but seriously, that's just weird man.
have to admit, the only reason I would do this would be for the geek factor of it all...
and those are the reasons that I dream of installing a web server on a toaster.
I don't think I'd use the hardware keyboard any more than I'd use a web server.
have it admit, it's an intriguing idea, though... for the geek factor... to learn to do it...
thats a really good idea. i would like to see that program because im wiring a sever to all my tvs and i dont want that big keyboard in the way of things
I always seem to get mixed reviews about the idea...
atomiix said:
thats a really good idea. i would like to see that program because im wiring a sever to all my tvs and i dont want that big keyboard in the way of things
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Thanks. Usu ppl think it's a bad idea, but what about when ya'd like something a bit more "remote controlesque" to control your iTunes? I'd rather use my tele's keyboard, rather than walk around w/ my full sized bluetooth keyboard, y'know? Anyway, can anyone point me in the right direction? Maybe a prog already out, or a lil' tutorial on writing a prog to do this?
watson540 said:
im not knocking your idea at all.
but in my opinion that would be horrible. i've never encountered a time in my life where a pc didnt have a keyboard, and as much as i love the mogul FOR it's full keyboard, it's still a noghtmare to type on it.
im actually not bad with it, if only the keys were a tad wider, so i wouldnt press two of them at the same time
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How about for use with a Playstation 3 system? Using the controller to type is a drag.
ive seen my brother control his mac/itunes with a nokia bluetooth enabled phone before so im sure you're not too far off
You know, if the mogul could be made as an extension to the pc, and vice-versa, it would be amazing. Most people don't really need, or know what to do with, this type of functionality. But then again, lets admit -- we are not regular people, are we? This is a great idea on the edge of pioneering a host of new posibilities of inter-device integration.
I often will watch movies, type on msn (wishing i had a webcam), etc... why not save ourselves the money to buy all this extra hardware, and look for a solution that can use the resources we already have?
Now, that being said, it is going to be very hard to program and/or find someone to program this type of functionality for us. Firstly, they must be very good at coding ppc AND pc apps. Secondly, these would be low-level functions or would require ingenious workarounds.
But, as my two cents, have you ever thought of using vnc to do what you needed? Maybe it wouldn't be as 'clean' as you might like it, but it could effectively do what you needed, and can work via wifi, bluetooth, EVDO/1X, and even USB. Beyond that, i might look at programs like WM5torage which uses the USB port to emulate a USB device (in this case a storage drive).
Good luck, and great idea!
EDIT: Try re-openning this thread in the Dev section, maybe you might get some feedback there?
You'd need a blueooth HID driver if i remember right, that'd be a decent place to start...
*delurk*
I'd love to use my Mogul as a bluetooth keyboard for my Asus R2H.
*relurk*
kain144000 said:
Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
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here's a start.. i have a similar setup.. xp machine hooked to projector for my main entertainment.. haven't set this up yet.. but it's worth a shot. can be used via activesync connection or bluetooth PAN/WiFi
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
another, though not as advanced:
http://www.salling.com/Clicker/windows/
excellent roundup/explanation.. (scroll down to see the actual reviews)
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53973
hunterdg said:
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
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This prog's not yet compatible w/ WM6
hunterdg said:
http://www.salling.com/Clicker/windows/
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This prog was actually a very good find. 'More convenient than RDP'in' the
Desktop to control music remotely, but having this knowledge makes this link,
hunterdg said:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53973
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irrelevant, since I'd like to use the PPC's keyboard, solely, @ the desktop machine. Thanks for all o'the help, though. I'd actually gone ahead and d/l'd Salling Clicker.
But, still, does anyone have any other ideas, or want to work on it?
fyi, the fact that it doesn't list compatibility with wm6 doesn't mean that it's not.
hunterdg said:
fyi, the fact that it doesn't list compatibility with wm6 doesn't mean that it's not.
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No, I have it already, and know from experience that it won't run on my Mogul. I'd thought it unnecessary to mention it since I'm mainly lookin' for hardware keyboard functionality, anyway.
I would consider porting over an existing solution, ie Synergy ( http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ ).
this would be a good idea to use with a media center PC... I've been searching for a good solution to no avail (VNC isn't fast enough)
I would love to use it as a keyboard with my PS3, or 360. The PS3 would probably be easier, as I'm not sure if 360 accepts Bluetooth.
SephirothWGP said:
I would love to use it as a keyboard with my PS3, or 360. The PS3 would probably be easier, as I'm not sure if 360 accepts Bluetooth.
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Bump....I wouldn't mind using it on my PS3 as well.
::bump::
Ya hear that, developers out there? The ppl want to use their WM* devices' H/W keyboards on PCs and consoles. I'm sure you guys can get it done.

Default keyboard missing keys

Hey,
I'd like to use mobile putty on my HD (for those who don't know, putty is a command-line emulator that allows me to connect remotely from my mobile to our company servers using SSH and monitor stuff).
The thing is that in order to do that effectively, I'll be needing a Ctrl key. Can't find a Ctrl key on the keyboard...
Anyone have any ideas?
Depending on the amount of time using mobile terminals I would suggest a BT keyboard. I use this and it works well and of course has a full set of keys.
Yeah, I thought about this, but I'm loath to go around with a keyboard as well as the mobile...
I'm after a solution that will save me the hassle... I'm only going to use it once in a while, on a crisis while I'm in a pub or something...
Kangburra said:
Depending on the amount of time using mobile terminals I would suggest a BT keyboard. I use this and it works well and of course has a full set of keys.
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A simple answer is switch to the crappy windows default keyboard, cleverly named keyboard in your SIP list. This has CTRL but you need a stylus to hit it.
chompy18 said:
Yeah, I thought about this, but I'm loath to go around with a keyboard as well as the mobile...
I'm after a solution that will save me the hassle... I'm only going to use it once in a while, on a crisis while I'm in a pub or something...
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Has anyone tried one of these?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/I-TECH-C51-...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1232623470&sr=8-10
Looks a lot smaller than a normal keyboard.

TP2 as a Remote keboard??

Hi,
I was thinking to buy a Logitech dinovo keyboard for my HTPC
http://ces.cnet.com/i/bto/20080104/lifestlyerichblog_540x360.JPG
... but then I wounderd if there is any application for WM6.5 that could use bluetuth to control a PC keybord.
I know i could use RDP client on my phone but then I get the screen on the phone as well..
I just want to use my TP2 as a keyboard remote to a Win7 PC with wifi or bluetouth..
Is this possible, does it exist a program for this?
Look for gremote .cab or also nueUSBKeyboard.
Both of these are located in this thread under Utilities. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
I have tried the latter and it is what it is...just a keyboard through USB. Gremote I gave a shot...but was having trouble getting my Bluetooth to work on my PC...my issues not the program.
Touch Pro 2 as remote BT Keyboard
I saw an app (believe it or not) on the Windows Mobile Marketplace for $1.99
called MobileRemote that does exactly what you are looking for including mouse functions.
It uses BlueTooth to connect as an HID Keyboard.
It's from MobileSRC.
Cheers
You might look into GRemote, it does everything. However, just at tip, if you buy any keyboard software that uses Bluetooth, make sure you test the trial version first. I know quite a few of the mouse/keyboard programs don't work on the Rhodium because of the Widcomm Bluetooth stack used instead of the Microsoft Bluetooth stack.
Wow, Thanks everybody!!
Now I have some things to tryout in the weekend..
Cheers!
Gremote works best over WiFi. I use it daily on my media center and love it. I'm planning on buying the paid version soon.
BRETT
I love GRemote, but it's sad that the computers that I'd use them on the most (work and school PCs) don't allow me to install the necessary software!
Wow Gremote was everything I wanted!
Works great with XMBC and Aeon skin
Thanks!
Ah man..u guys suck..now I gotta try wifi with gremote
gremote is working over wifi...however I cannot use any of the menus or settings on host PC. Is this a Trial limitation or something wrong with the install?
I can open settings program from taskbar...but nothing further.
wifi on my TP2 to a Win7 x64 works fantastic.... Playing around for some hour and now a get use to use it like a normal mouse.
one thing that is anoying is that gremote on the tp2 always turn on BT,, cant find any way to disable it
I am using it to type and tether. I can feel the waves killing my brain cells but, it feels good. lol I might have to fork up the 14 bucks to pay for the full service just to get the annoying demo message to go away. now if only I could get it to work on my Xbox 360. hmmmm jk
the app rocks!
oh... but i did find one problem. when typing using hardware keyboard; I can't seem to get the touchpad to work. or any of the control buttons. "DEL, TAB, CTRL, ALT" anyone know what is up with that?
gimpcell said:
I am using it to type and tether. I can feel the waves killing my brain cells but, it feels good. lol I might have to fork up the 14 bucks to pay for the full service just to get the annoying demo message to go away. now if only I could get it to work on my Xbox 360. hmmmm jk
the app rocks!
oh... but i did find one problem. when typing using hardware keyboard; I can't seem to get the touchpad to work. or any of the control buttons. "DEL, TAB, CTRL, ALT" anyone know what is up with that?
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works for me? strange..
I guess I will just reinstall the damn thing. Flashing a new ROM today so lets see if it plays nice this time.

[Q] Remote Desktop "Mouse Mode"

I am looking for a remote desktop solution, like LogMeIn or TeamViewer that doesn't require me to do any detailed configuration.
The problem is that LogMeIn, for example, won't treat my Note 3 phone as a tablet, so I can't use the mouse like a normal mouse. (The settings for mouse are "move mouse" and "move screen", but there is no direct mode available for phones to use a mouse like a regular mouse.)
My device is a Verizon Android 4.4 KitKat Samsung Note 3 phone (unfortunately rooting is not an option for me), and I am using it with the Note 2 dock with an external monitor and wireless usb keyboard/mouse. Everything works great except I can't find a good remote desktop solution that will allow me to work "normally" in terms of the mouse.
I also have Win 8 Home version on my desktop PC and do not want to configure port forwarding and a fixed ip to solve rotating external IP address assignments. (Please excuse me if I didn't say that correctly, but the point is that I really don't want to deal with those kinds of complexities.) Yes, I realize that I may have too many constraints - don't want configuration challenges (which I think rules out VNC or standard RDP), and also no rooting of the phone. But I am willing to pay a small monthly subscription, e.g. I looked at PocketCloud with $5/month, but that doesn't seem to support my requirement either from a quick look at the manual.
Is there anyone who can suggest a good solution for my needs?
Have you tried the google remote desktop? It's free. I've been pretty impressed with it.
toddnbrown said:
Have you tried the google remote desktop? It's free. I've been pretty impressed with it.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't thought about that because it was relatively new. But I may try it (after some more reading). Unfortunately, it doesn't look good for external mouse support. Here's one review...
Review from Jim Fox
Great, but no external mouse support I have been using Splashtop for a while now, but was super excited to use this when I saw it come on the play store. The problem I have is that when I take remote control of my computer, I use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The program works like a trackpad to control the remote mouse with touch, which is great when you don't have an external mouse, but makes it near impossible to control when you do. You have to hold the right mouse button down in order to move the remote mouse and then click with the left. Near impossible to use. Please fix.
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On the other hand, the comments make me wonder if I should try LMI and TV again with an external trackpad instead of a mouse. I wonder if that behavior might be better?

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