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Would like to use touchscreen AND hard keyboard together!

Does anyone know if and how I can use the touchscreen when the phone is open and I'm using the keyboard?
I like the keyboard, but some functions are not reachable and the touchscreen is disabled when phone is open. Can anyone help please?

Re: Would like to use touchscreen AND hard keyboard together
An alternative to the stick and the touchscreen is a Bluetooth mouse. I have the Think Outside mouse and it is very good. It comes with drivers for Windows Mobile. (And it works very well under Windows XP as well. XP's has built-in HID drivers.)

Practice, Practice, Practice
I put the stylus between my index and middle finger when I'm typing so that I can quickly use it when I need to. The keyboard is missing \ and highlighting, jumping, saying OK, etc. all happen much faster with the stylus. Not a perfect solution but OK.

Re: Practice, Practice, Practice
prestonmcafee said:
I put the stylus between my index and middle finger when I'm typing so that I can quickly use it when I need to. The keyboard is missing \ and highlighting, jumping, saying OK, etc. all happen much faster with the stylus. Not a perfect solution but OK.
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Can you confirm that your touchscreen is still working when you've opened your phone and are using the keyboard. My touchscreen isn't working anymore as soon as I open the phone. I'm looking for a way to use both functionalities at the same time!
thanks

Ys
Yes, I can use both, T-Mobile MDA

Re: Would like to use touchscreen AND hard keyboard together
bb26jinx said:
Does anyone know if and how I can use the touchscreen when the phone is open and I'm using the keyboard?
I like the keyboard, but some functions are not reachable and the touchscreen is disabled when phone is open. Can anyone help please?
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Never heard of the touchscreen not working when the keyboard is open. What wizard do you have?

TC and iGO Sierra Bluetooth Keyboard

anyone know how to get a driver for the TC and the iGO Sierra Bluetooth Keyboard?
you can just pair it as a bt device and it works, but i would like all of the functionality of the shortcut keys etc....
any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
(oops sorry about where i placed this thread, i meant to put it in the accessories forum)

Just browse on the device to the old ThinkOutside.com and you'll be forwarded to a page where you can download a driver.

i wish that were so, but it doesnt work for me.... do you know if any of the other devices listed there are wm6?

Sorry, I should have said: it seems they haven't created a driver for WM6 devices, but the WM5 drivers work perfectly.
Enjoy! (I love my ThinkOutside keyboard. I'm working on my fourth novel, and there's nothing better than being able to go anywhere, unfold my gear out of my pocket, and write away...)

Actually, I spoke too soon: while the keyboard works just fine in TextMaker, I've been finding over the past few days that it skips letters or puts my spaces in in the wrong order when I'm typing in any of the built-in apps. This is without any other applications running and lots of free memory on the device, so I'm not sure what's going wrong.
Anyone have any suggestions?

'Would like to use Sprint Mogul by HTC (Titan) hardware keyboard on desktop...

Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.

kain144000 said:
Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
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im not knocking your idea at all.
but in my opinion that would be horrible. i've never encountered a time in my life where a pc didnt have a keyboard, and as much as i love the mogul FOR it's full keyboard, it's still a noghtmare to type on it.
im actually not bad with it, if only the keys were a tad wider, so i wouldnt press two of them at the same time

kain144000 said:
Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
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I applaud your efforts, but seriously, that's just weird man.

have to admit, the only reason I would do this would be for the geek factor of it all...
and those are the reasons that I dream of installing a web server on a toaster.
I don't think I'd use the hardware keyboard any more than I'd use a web server.
have it admit, it's an intriguing idea, though... for the geek factor... to learn to do it...

thats a really good idea. i would like to see that program because im wiring a sever to all my tvs and i dont want that big keyboard in the way of things

I always seem to get mixed reviews about the idea...
atomiix said:
thats a really good idea. i would like to see that program because im wiring a sever to all my tvs and i dont want that big keyboard in the way of things
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Thanks. Usu ppl think it's a bad idea, but what about when ya'd like something a bit more "remote controlesque" to control your iTunes? I'd rather use my tele's keyboard, rather than walk around w/ my full sized bluetooth keyboard, y'know? Anyway, can anyone point me in the right direction? Maybe a prog already out, or a lil' tutorial on writing a prog to do this?

watson540 said:
im not knocking your idea at all.
but in my opinion that would be horrible. i've never encountered a time in my life where a pc didnt have a keyboard, and as much as i love the mogul FOR it's full keyboard, it's still a noghtmare to type on it.
im actually not bad with it, if only the keys were a tad wider, so i wouldnt press two of them at the same time
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How about for use with a Playstation 3 system? Using the controller to type is a drag.

ive seen my brother control his mac/itunes with a nokia bluetooth enabled phone before so im sure you're not too far off

You know, if the mogul could be made as an extension to the pc, and vice-versa, it would be amazing. Most people don't really need, or know what to do with, this type of functionality. But then again, lets admit -- we are not regular people, are we? This is a great idea on the edge of pioneering a host of new posibilities of inter-device integration.
I often will watch movies, type on msn (wishing i had a webcam), etc... why not save ourselves the money to buy all this extra hardware, and look for a solution that can use the resources we already have?
Now, that being said, it is going to be very hard to program and/or find someone to program this type of functionality for us. Firstly, they must be very good at coding ppc AND pc apps. Secondly, these would be low-level functions or would require ingenious workarounds.
But, as my two cents, have you ever thought of using vnc to do what you needed? Maybe it wouldn't be as 'clean' as you might like it, but it could effectively do what you needed, and can work via wifi, bluetooth, EVDO/1X, and even USB. Beyond that, i might look at programs like WM5torage which uses the USB port to emulate a USB device (in this case a storage drive).
Good luck, and great idea!
EDIT: Try re-openning this thread in the Dev section, maybe you might get some feedback there?

You'd need a blueooth HID driver if i remember right, that'd be a decent place to start...

*delurk*
I'd love to use my Mogul as a bluetooth keyboard for my Asus R2H.
*relurk*

kain144000 said:
Hey, Everyone,
I would like to take on a lil' pet project (but, 'could be a group effort). What I'd like to do is use my Mogul's hardware keyboard as a USB and/or bluetooth keyboard on Windows XP/Vista and *nix machines. Any ideas on where to start, or H3LL!, does anyone know of a prog already? Y'figure you can use your Titans as a webcam, modem, WiFi router, and flash drive, so why not use the keyboard?
Thanks, Everyone.
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here's a start.. i have a similar setup.. xp machine hooked to projector for my main entertainment.. haven't set this up yet.. but it's worth a shot. can be used via activesync connection or bluetooth PAN/WiFi
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
another, though not as advanced:
http://www.salling.com/Clicker/windows/
excellent roundup/explanation.. (scroll down to see the actual reviews)
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53973

hunterdg said:
http://www.aacompserv.com/AACompWeb/Modules/PPCTablet/WhatIsIt.aspx
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This prog's not yet compatible w/ WM6
hunterdg said:
http://www.salling.com/Clicker/windows/
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This prog was actually a very good find. 'More convenient than RDP'in' the
Desktop to control music remotely, but having this knowledge makes this link,
hunterdg said:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53973
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irrelevant, since I'd like to use the PPC's keyboard, solely, @ the desktop machine. Thanks for all o'the help, though. I'd actually gone ahead and d/l'd Salling Clicker.
But, still, does anyone have any other ideas, or want to work on it?

fyi, the fact that it doesn't list compatibility with wm6 doesn't mean that it's not.

hunterdg said:
fyi, the fact that it doesn't list compatibility with wm6 doesn't mean that it's not.
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No, I have it already, and know from experience that it won't run on my Mogul. I'd thought it unnecessary to mention it since I'm mainly lookin' for hardware keyboard functionality, anyway.

I would consider porting over an existing solution, ie Synergy ( http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ ).

this would be a good idea to use with a media center PC... I've been searching for a good solution to no avail (VNC isn't fast enough)

I would love to use it as a keyboard with my PS3, or 360. The PS3 would probably be easier, as I'm not sure if 360 accepts Bluetooth.

SephirothWGP said:
I would love to use it as a keyboard with my PS3, or 360. The PS3 would probably be easier, as I'm not sure if 360 accepts Bluetooth.
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Bump....I wouldn't mind using it on my PS3 as well.

::bump::
Ya hear that, developers out there? The ppl want to use their WM* devices' H/W keyboards on PCs and consoles. I'm sure you guys can get it done.

iPAQ Foldable Bluetooth keyboard ** Solved??

Hi
I have one of those ipaq foldable keyboards (bluetooth) and I'd like to get this working on Windows Mobile 6.1 to use it on my touch diamond.
The original driver which ships with the keyboard doesnt appear to work on Windows Mobile 6.1 (I think its designed for 2003) but it seems the bluetooth layer is working perfectly....
The keyboard itself presents itself as a bluetooth serial port which can be paired and connected to the touch diamond... problem is how to get the serial port used for keyboard input
Any ideas?
Thanks!

Solved
I've developed a small application which wraps the serial output into the API.
** EXPERIMENTAL ** USE AT OWN RISK **
1. Ensure you have NETCF 3.5 installed on your device.
2. Extract the .exe file from the zip archive and save it somewhere on your device.
3. Pair your keyboard via bluetooth.
4. Create an outgoing serial port (any port from COM1 through COM9)
5. Fire up the saved application.
6. Select the COM port used in #4 above and click on CONNECT - If the connection fails exit application and repeat from step #3
7. Test connectivity by pushing shift/caps lock.

Can't get this to work
Hi there
Tried to install this on an HTC Touch HD and it doesn't work unfortunately... I get an error message but apparently need to install a special cab file from microsoft containing .NET CF 3.5 error messages?
If you feel like having a go at getting this to work would very much appreciate it!

ONLawson said:
Hi there
Tried to install this on an HTC Touch HD and it doesn't work unfortunately... I get an error message but apparently need to install a special cab file from microsoft containing .NET CF 3.5 error messages?
If you feel like having a go at getting this to work would very much appreciate it!
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Hi
You just need to install .net framework 3.5 and it should work

Hi!
I only can create COM6 or COM7 as outgoing ports... Any solution? Thank you!

lilitz said:
Hi!
I only can create COM6 or COM7 as outgoing ports... Any solution? Thank you!
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I will amend the application to enable you to specify a COM port.. unfortunately this can only be done when I am home so check back in a few hours....

lilitz said:
Hi!
I only can create COM6 or COM7 as outgoing ports... Any solution? Thank you!
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I've updated the application and the connection process as can be seen in post #2.

Great work!!! It works perfectly.
Only two questions:
It's possible to hide the win keyboard screen?
Could you add -in a future- a key repeat?
Thank you very much!

lilitz said:
Great work!!! It works perfectly.
Only two questions:
It's possible to hide the win keyboard screen?
Could you add -in a future- a key repeat?
Thank you very much!
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I'll add keystroke repeat at some stage but its beyond what I originally anticipated so dont hold your breath until then
Some of the special function keys dont function yet either but as they are not really used it didnt make sense to add them initially.

Finally I got the keyb screen hidden, but if I hide it, the space bar key doesn't work. Otherwise this app is very very very usefull .
Andret: Did you try to install Widdcomm Broadcom Stack on your Diamond? I readed somewhere that there's a version compatible with HTC Hermes, I don't know if it can be used with your phone....
I tried to contact with darfon (without response yet) to ask them for the service manual of G950, I disassembled the keyb and there's a jumper connector in the motherboard, I wonder if it's possible to turn it into HID soldering a bridge there...
Greetings and thanks again.

lilitz said:
Finally I got the keyb screen hidden, but if I hide it, the space bar key doesn't work. Otherwise this app is very very very usefull .
Andret: Did you try to install Widdcomm Broadcom Stack on your Diamond? I readed somewhere that there's a version compatible with HTC Hermes, I don't know if it can be used with your phone....
I tried to contact with darfon (without response yet) to ask them for the service manual of G950, I disassembled the keyb and there's a jumper connector in the motherboard, I wonder if it's possible to turn it into HID soldering a bridge there...
Greetings and thanks again.
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I dont have an issue with spacebar when I hide the popup keyboard.... I do occasionally get an issue when the spacebar doesnt work but I havent figured out what the reason for this is.... it seems to be rather random 1 out of 20 or so times I connect/reconnect the keyboard.
I've never opened the keyboard but I too have wondered about getting it into HID mode since it seems some of the later ones from HP support both HID and SPP.
I've never tried instaling a different type of stack on the phone... the app works fine as it is on my wife's diamond and was originally developed on my touch pro actually until it worked and then off to the diamond... not much use for it on the TP as it has a hardware keyboard.

Thanks!!!
This driver works great! thank you for the effort that you put into it! A friend gave me a Palm Universal Bluetooth Keyboard, and I used your driver to connect to my iPaq 110. Thanks again!

How do I create a COM port?

The Shift 1234567890 and .
Sorry for shamelessly bumping an old thread (well about a month)
These ([email protected]#$%^&*()>)
keys don't work for whatever reason. GREAT program by the way. I know my way around c, c#, etc so if you released the source, I might be able to get these to work.
Thanks!
Rob

idlacrosseplayer said:
Sorry for shamelessly bumping an old thread (well about a month)
These ([email protected]#$%^&*()>)
keys don't work for whatever reason. GREAT program by the way. I know my way around c, c#, etc so if you released the source, I might be able to get these to work.
Thanks!
Rob
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Source code attached including ipaqkbmap which is a small application i used to determine the codes for the various keys... if you follow the source you'll know why this was necessary.
In my case i dont think it was necessary to map those special characters as the WM API managed some of the shift-state issues and did not require anything further....
Either way... free to play with it and see what comes out of it... Have fun

P525
Hi!
I have a ipaq foldable keyboard!
It the words are working but te funcion buttons doesn't.
I've installed the hp driver but when I want to enable in the program the keyboard :Couldn't open port COM1:.rc=55
Any ide?
How can I make an outgoing serial port (any port from COM1 through COM9)?
Thx
Asus P525 WM5

Thank you .. you are a star
I have a kaiser with wm6.1 and an HP ipaq (darfur 950) foldable keyboard .. heres what i did
- download IPAQKB.exe into storage card
- download HP update 2.0.0.8
- used activesync to update wm6.1 with update 2.0.0.8
- download .NET framework 3.5 compact from (http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en)
- open active sync and then run .NET application but make sure you chose 'custom' installation and put destination as :C\Mobile Device
- use bluetooth programme (start>settings>connections>bluetooth) to find foldable keyboard and tick serial port and also set COM 1 plus untick secure connection in the 'COM port section'
- run IPAQKB and select COM 1
- run foladable keyboard on in Programmes of wm6.1
- tick enalbe keyboard and thats it
p.s my code for keyboard was 0000

Here is the driver for WM6 WM5
Please follow the instruction for installation in the readme file.
Should run on any wm6.
test the hp ipaq bluetooth foldable keyboard with my htc diamond and working great.

Softkey Shortcuts
Does anyone know the shortcut or keyboard combination for Left and Right Softkeys with HP Foldable Bluetooth keyboard? Tq

Thank you so much for this small application. I have been able to pair HP BT keyboard with my HTC Touch HD and it seems to be working fine in Phatnotes. Will save me having to buy another keyboard.
Regards

Xperia as remote Keyboard & Touchpad for PC?

Hi all,
I just had an idea: I was wondering, if it is possible to connect the X1 either by bluetooth, WLAN or USB to the PC and use the X1 keyboard as a keyboard for the PC.
I was also thinking, that the touchscreen could be used as a kind of touchpad (like on notebooks) to control the mouse pointer on a connected PC.
So I was searching the Internet if anybody wrote a software that can just do this, but had no luck. So my question is: Does anybody know a software that can just do this?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: I know there are some remote controls for winamp & co but this is not what I'm looking for. Actually I'd like to have something like this for a much more smaller amount of money by using my xperia and a special software.

foo said:
Hi all,
I just had an idea: I was wondering, if it is possible to connect the X1 either by bluetooth, WLAN or USB to the PC and use the X1 keyboard as a keyboard for the PC.
I was also thinking, that the touchscreen could be used as a kind of touchpad (like on notebooks) to control the mouse pointer on a connected PC.
So I was searching the Internet if anybody wrote a software that can just do this, but had no luck. So my question is: Does anybody know a software that can just do this?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: I know there are some remote controls for winamp & co but this is not what I'm looking for. Actually I'd like to have something like this for a much more smaller amount of money by using my xperia and a special software.
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There's something on this very forum for a VERY small amount of money - all you have to do is learn how to search and it's yours. I'll even give you a clue - it' in the "Development & Hacking" section.

Go here http://t2remotetouch.blogspot.com

Is there a thing like that that use bluetooth only? like a usual bluetooth keyboard or mouse.
like that: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/features/bluetooth.mspx

Thanks kostis60, this goes in the right direction, though it lacks the touchpad feature which I'd need really badly. This app is more like "Windows Remote Desktop" or VNC.
akp99 said:
There's something on this very forum for a VERY small amount of money - all you have to do is learn how to search and it's yours. I'll even give you a clue - it' in the "Development & Hacking" section.
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Are you also referring to the application mentioned by kostis60 or is there something else?

foo said:
Thanks kostis60, this goes in the right direction, though it lacks the touchpad feature which I'd need really badly. This app is more like "Windows Remote Desktop" or VNC.
Are you also referring to the application mentioned by kostis60 or is there something else?
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nueUSBkeyboard is what I use - nt bothered about track pad - I think there is something that works with this but not sure of name.
And there's a paid for prg that works over bluetooth aswell but again its name slips my mind

Check out Pebbles. It allows controlling of the PC via Touchpad and Keyboard (Hard- and Softwarekeyboard). It is for free and works via Bluetooth and Wifi.
Nice Gadget but a wireless mouse and keyboard is more convenient from my perspective.

You could also use MS Remote Desktop Client to atke remote control of your PC.
Also LogMeIn works even better.

I think he is more looking for software to make the device a mouse/keyboard, not remote desktop software. These are two very different things. +1 for nueUSBkeyboard though.

Mobileremote by mobilesrc is what you are looking for.
Works like a charm for me.
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx

mmaaxxii said:
Mobileremote by mobilesrc is what you are looking for.
Works like a charm for me.
http://www.mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx
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YES! That is exactly what I was looking for!
Great! Thanks

MobileSRC MobileRemote Xperia Issues
Okay, is it just me or is anybody else having the following issue with the Xperia keyboard when using MobileSRC MobileRemote..?
When I use the keyboard all of the 'Blue' characters are displayed rather than the letters. The only button that also has a 'Blue' character assigned to it which works correctly is 'Q'.
The buttons without 'Blue' characters (A, S, D, F, G, @, Z, X, C, V, RETURN, TAB, DEL) work fine.
'W' gives me ", 'E' gives me /, 'R' gives me & and so on.
Shift doesn't work either.
I've tried pressing the blue button, Sym and everything else but no change.
Any ideas?
Regards
Sonny

sonnysoul said:
Okay, is it just me or is anybody else having the following issue with the Xperia keyboard when using MobileSRC MobileRemote..?
When I use the keyboard all of the 'Blue' characters are displayed rather than the letters. The only button that also has a 'Blue' character assigned to it which works correctly is 'Q'.
The buttons without 'Blue' characters (A, S, D, F, G, @, Z, X, C, V, RETURN, TAB, DEL) work fine.
'W' gives me ", 'E' gives me /, 'R' gives me & and so on.
Shift doesn't work either.
I've tried pressing the blue button, Sym and everything else but no change.
Any ideas?
Regards
Sonny
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I have the same issue, but the developer announced a new bugfix release in the next couple of weeks also including some bugfixes for hardware keyboards.

I had tried this application before. At that time, it didn't yet work well with the X1. Now, however, it's getting really close to being fully functional.. nice!
Current issues I find annoying:
- HW keyboard support (always in FN mode)
- Touchpad can't go fullscreen (except for LMB and RMB ofc)
- Connecting it is a bit awkward (though should be full auto in retail version)
I'll soon be buying a media center with my TV. I'm hoping I can get my X1 to be the HID. Little more fixes and this app will do all I need.

Angelusz said:
- Connecting it is a bit awkward (though should be full auto in retail version)
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I bought the application and connecting works like a charm.
As I need the touchpad functionality most of the time, I bought it even with the keyboard problem - still worth the money for me
In case I have to enter something, I switch to the software keyboard.

try this
sailing clicker -
does exactly what you ask...with extra media player functions etc.
http://www.salling.com/clicker/windows/

foo said:
I bought the application and connecting works like a charm.
As I need the touchpad functionality most of the time, I bought it even with the keyboard problem - still worth the money for me
In case I have to enter something, I switch to the software keyboard.
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Aye, I'll be waiting for a proper release, might buy it then.