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Moding The Keyboard To Tilt Up?

I was wondering if anyone knows how to mod the keyboard to tilt up like the new kaiser and no smart comments like buy the kaiser.

Buy the Kaiser
Seriously, I've had the TyTN apart several times, and without some MAJOR modification I don't see this happening. The slide mechanism just isn't made for it and I don't see any easy way to change that, short of making a new sliding mechanism.

I doubt this is possible as well. Perhaps when the the kaiser is on sale and someone breaks one and sells it off for parts you could try something, but making a neat job of it would probably be impractical
Mike

damn i want a kaiser..

thank you
i guess the only way to get it to work is to buy a kaiser.

aih1977 said:
i guess the only way to get it to work is to buy a kaiser.
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It is what I'll be doing. My TyTN will be 1yr old this september so I am loooong overdue for a new phone

ScottC said:
It is what I'll be doing. My TyTN will be 1yr old this september so I am loooong overdue for a new phone
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I'll admit it's tempting, though I am going to attempt to resist untill the price drops a bit. My Tytn is around a year old and I could now buy one for less than half the price I paid for it. You've also got to ask if the added features are worth a sizeable sum of money over the features already available on Hermes.
Or is all that just far too sensible to enter into the purchasing considerations?
Mike

mikechannon said:
I'll admit it's tempting, though I am going to attempt to resist untill the price drops a bit. My Tytn is around a year old and I could now buy one for less than half the price I paid for it. You've also got to ask if the added features are worth a sizeable sum of money over the features already available on Hermes.
Or is all that just far to sensible to enter into the purchasing considerations?
Mike
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NO WAY can i afford another ppc for the time being, unless the donations gurus are planning something LOL. Will be WAAAAY into the life of the kaiser before i even think of getting one.

mikechannon said:
Or is all that just far too sensible to enter into the purchasing considerations?
Mike
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Yes
In my best Veruca Salt voice: I want it NOW.

ScottC said:
Yes
In my best Veruca Salt voice: I want it NOW.
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Despite sounding like something you get from the chemist for your foot problems - she had the distinct advantage of wealthy parents catering to every whim.
Some of us, even if we can scrape the cash together, have a spouse capable of thought policing on a scale that puts the galaxy to shame. To actually buy a Kaiser, would be to invite indescribable horrors the likes of which would make you seek death as if your life depended on it
Mike

I beleive the processor on the Kaiser is slower than the Hermes .. I think it was something like 363 .. or something like that... ill stick with the 8525 for now

aih1977 said:
I was wondering if anyone knows how to mod the keyboard to tilt up like the new kaiser and no smart comments like buy the kaiser.
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Man, you ask a question as dumb as this and don't want smart comments!
Go buy a Kiaser... for real.

mikechannon said:
Some of us, even if we can scrape the cash together, have a spouse capable of thought policing on a scale that puts the galaxy to shame. To actually buy a Kaiser, would be to invite indescribable horrors the likes of which would make you seek death as if your life depended on it
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Well said.. hhahaha! but what if the spouse gets the tytn =) It should go down in price come November on my annual trip to London. Time to ring them familiar numbers again.

Madcap180 said:
I beleive the processor on the Kaiser is slower than the Hermes .. I think it was something like 363 .. or something like that... ill stick with the 8525 for now
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Yes but these days, it depends on how each manufacturer's chipset handles code. If the Qualcomm chip has a different reduced instruction set as opposed to the Samsung, it might actually turn out to be more efficient or on a level pegging when put up against the Sammy CPU.
I know they're both ARM, but one manufacturer's chipsets are never the same as the other's... It could be that more of the processing of things like HSDPA 3G decoding, sound synthesis etc, are actually hardware-accelerated to a greater degree - so the CPU in the end has more free clock cycles to perform other duties.
Integrated GPS? HSUPA? WM6? Tilting slider display? Shiny paint job? Better storage? When T-Mobile start selling these for the same price they sold me my Vario 2 (£80, minus £15 instead of getting the first 3 months' web 'n walk free so in the end £65)... Hell, I'll go for that!
I was amazed when I got my Vario 2 from T-Mobile, given that it was a brand new model when I subscribed, and my XDA 2i from O2 cost £100 on a 12-month £30 contract (I pay just £20 a month for Flext 25 on an 18-month contract plus the £7.50 WnW, but it still works out at only a tiny bit more expensive for a much better phone)... I think T-Mobile will come proper with the goods again when the Kaiser comes out. There's no way they can't not sell the Kaiser!

mikechannon said:
Despite sounding like something you get from the chemist for your foot problems - she had the distinct advantage of wealthy parents catering to every whim.
Some of us, even if we can scrape the cash together, have a spouse capable of thought policing on a scale that puts the galaxy to shame. To actually buy a Kaiser, would be to invite indescribable horrors the likes of which would make you seek death as if your life depended on it
Mike
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Mike, I'm a lucky guy. When I was in the store getting my TyTN my wife would have punched me if I didn't get two of them.
The same will happen with the Kaiser when my dealer has them. She's already looking forward to the "upgrade"

ScottC said:
Mike, I'm a lucky guy. When I was in the store getting my TyTN my wife would have punched me if I didn't get two of them.
The same will happen with the Kaiser when my dealer has them. She's already looking forward to the "upgrade"
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Madcap180 said:
I beleive the processor on the Kaiser is slower than the Hermes .. I think it was something like 363 .. or something like that... ill stick with the 8525 for now
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You forget that the MSM7200 PROCESSOR IN THE KAISER IS DUAL CORE. One core handles the radio/phone operations and the second handles your applications as opposed to one slightly faster core handling it all
http://www.ent.eetchina.com/PDF/2007FEB/DTCOL_2007FEB15_AVDE_RFR_AN_01.pdf?SOURCES=DOWNLOAD
I have a Kaiser and previously owned the hermes. Night and day difference in speed my friend

Madcap180 said:
I beleive the processor on the Kaiser is slower than the Hermes .. I think it was something like 363 .. or something like that... ill stick with the 8525 for now
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I bought a Kaiser and found its performance very dissapointing. It was very slow and the keyboard keys difficult to press (kind of sticky). I can type things much faster and much easier on the Hermes. After 3 faulty units (resetting themselves randomly) I was fortunate enough to get my money back and have stuck with the superior Hermes since. What I also found annoying being a right handed person was how the keyboard on the Kaiser opens the opposite way meaning you would need to get the stylus with your left hand and also use left hand to operate the front buttons. The Raphael may see me part with some cash when it comes to market shortly. It looks fantastic and on paper has an impressive spec so hopefully the extra processing power and memory amount to better performance....we shall see.

Screwed by Expansys again

I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.

yzf750 said:
I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.
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I know the trouble about Expansys. I ordered a QTEK 8500 aka Cingular 3125 from them. When I received the product the outside screen did not work. I assumed it was a bad ROM flash / etc. I flashed another ROM on it and it still had the problem. When I called Expansys about the defect they told me is B Stock product and that I couldn't return. I asked them how they would sell a product that wasn't fully fucntioning. The only response I got back was that it was working when they shipped it out.
I will never deal with them again.

thanks for the heads up, though I've been staying away from expansys since their prices are never realistic anyways

UPDATE:
I received my touch pro screen protector today from expansys. Totally disapointed. The cost was 10 bucks. I consider it 10 bucks flushed down the toilet.
The screen protector is a 2 piece one. First of all mine is stamped backwards. Go figure, the speaker hole was cut backwards so it is off center of the light sensor led and ear hole itself. It covers the sensor and has a big space on the right of the earhole that shows the phone underneath.
Second, the bottom piece is larger then the phone pad widthwise (maybe a millimeter) so it lifts the corners up each time you use a pad button since it hits the case on both sides. It looks terrible after just a few uses.
I do not think I would pay more then 50 cents for something like this. I guess I will have to order from a reputable screen protector manufacture now and toss this one in the garbage where it belongs.

ehh i dunno about the screen protector stuff but taht 'coupon' that they didnt apply...was applied (or at least for me it was). It doesnt show up on the confirmation email but check your CC. They charged me 15 bucks less than the confirmation email. If things arent right you can call/email them about it. generally they're nice about it.
(again this is only from my personal experience that i had with them ONCE...not speaking for everyone)

I had emailed them about the problem with the screen protector. No reply as usual. I did get the discount finally also so that is squared away at least. I just want people to know that this is a cheaply made protector and definetly not worth 10 bucks for only one that you get. For the quality of it you should get a 10 pack at that price. Its sold as an Expansys brand screen protector. However it comes wrapped in another companys packaging with chinese lettering on it. It is a BHB screen protector. Why Expansys lists it as their brand I do not know. Google search on BHB finds them as low as 1.99
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center. You end up with bubbles around it when you use the scroll feature on with that button. It now sits in my trash can.
On the other hand if this item had been worth the money ,I would of gladly posted that also to be fair. I have found this forum to be a great place to get opinions of products to both buy and stay away from.
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I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.

bfspider said:
I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.
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Just ordered one ..thanks

Not sure about the screen protector, the one I ordered was HTC's ($10.99). I just have to deal with the cut-out for the front cam. Most of the other time I order from Clarivue.

Wow, that's pretty ****ty. I've never dealt with expansys, but I really never imagined they would be that bad. Looks like a person would be better off to:
1)search ebay
2)sort by: Price+shipping: lowest first
3)close your eyes
4)hold the down key
5)click the mouse
6)buy it
....but seriously, I just can't believe they do business like that.

yzf750 said:
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center.
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You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.

Thank you for the info on this one. Seeing as thought how many people have had problems with them I definitely wont even try them.

NuShrike said:
You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.
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The protector has stickers on it showing which side goes up, plus its sticky on one side only. It is cut backwards. Im sure it went though the manufacturing punch machine backwards. I might have gotten a bad one, but again I emailed Expansys explaining the problem, again NO REPLY as usual. I have never once had an email to expansys replied to. I have been polite in all of them asking for an answer. Ask anyone else who has emailed them the same, they do not reply. Piss poor service if you ask me.

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3134553#post3134553
for my eXpansys horror story. Unfortunately I didn't catch this thread until it was too late.

Custom Wizard case being made

"Obsidian"
Custom Wizard casemod
Hello my friends,
I've been using a Wizard for quite a while now. I've added a lot of programs and utilities, removed some, modified others, but never changed my ROM (still with its WM5 )
Recently, my QWERTY keyboard got damaged, and the case is all scratched too... So I've got this (strange) idea: make a new case for my Wizard. Since the keyboard is damaged, I'll remove it and try to make this babe a little slimer.
I would like to state that in no way I have any connection to HTC, nor this is a new HTC device. It's only a personal project to improve my own device.
November 24, 2009
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Just started to make the skeleton frontal piece that holds the LCD and front buttons. Horray! \o/
November 20, 2009
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Finished the prototype for the case. Making some final adjustments, then ready to make the real thing!
This prototype now has another cool feature: it has an internal skeleton and an external shell, so you can have multiple "skins" to change whenever you get sick of one. I've rendered a red shell just to show an example.
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Case prototype (Frontal shell, frontal skeleton, back skeleton and back shell)
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Finally got some vacations, and now I can dedicate myself to this dreamy project. Here are some pics of the old Wizard, just as the darky-obsidian-glossy-mirror-like plastic, lol.
October 8, 2009
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Today I've finished the prototype in Photoshop, since that was vital for this project. These buttons were removed, since I've never had any use for them: volume slider, comm manager and voice dial (is it?). The camera button is missing, but I'll insert it there tomorrow .
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I'll be using hard and soft plastic for the case. The soft plastic will be used where there are buttons, since it'll be a single piece (as Nokia N78 did with some front buttons). The rest will be hard plastic. I'll try to achieve a black piano-ish finish, just as the black Diamond.
I've took some measuring, and if my plans are right, I'll take 1/3 out of its thickness!
I love my Wizard, but I always felt it kinda chubby in my pocket, and the screen bevel always makes it hard to hit the X button with the bare finger... So I'll be making a flat front, making it easy to hit the corners and other sliding moves.
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This is the initial prototype. Dead flat front, single piece buttons and plate, except the central confirmation button.
Old case part... Full of scratches, as I've sprayed it all black once, but it went like crap. Nevermore, hah.
The plastic being used for the outside casing. Yes, from old CD cases... They have such a high quality!
Actually they aren't that reflective... Some sanding and car polishing compounds make that baby ;D
Old case in a size comparison
More scratched parts
This is how bad the old spraying went...
My Wizard fully disassembled
Later!

Wow. good luck!

Update on post #1

If you're successful with this can I pay you to do mine?

nateskates said:
If you're successful with this can I pay you to do mine?
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Hey man, I'll be posting pics during the proccess, so if anyone wants to do something similar they'll have some reference.
But it would be a pleasure, surely

More updates on #1

how will you get the keyboard to slide out?

@nateskates , he said that he had removed it because it's damaged. so there will be no keyboard at all. i wonder if absence of the keyboard can make some problems in windows... cause wizard roms have keyboard and now it will be unplugged... anyway, good luck!

V3R said:
i wonder if absence of the keyboard can make some problems in windows...
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I thought about that too, but I have already tested that before this project, and nothing weird happened.
I cannot guarantee that it won't cause any problems, but I presume that Windows was programmed in a way that it "expects" for keyboard events, and not "require" them.
If anyone is watching this, I have disassembled the Wizard again to make the CAD for the new case, to see how everything fits and the exact measures I need
Later!

How's your project? any progress? I can't wait to see it finished

This looks too good to be true , good luck and if you will do it , i will pay you any amount of money to do mine the same.

Hello my friends,
I'm sorry for these days without any updates, but here are some news
I was looking for a good plastic, one that would delivery a highly reflective surface, just as the Diamond... well, found one, so the part I was most worried about is done, lol.
Right now I'm still doing the CAD... everything gotta be very well measured and planned, as any milimeter counts!
Hopefully I will post both the CAD and a pic from the plastic.
@V3R: me too man, just can't wait to see my Wizard in shiny black!
@mat7ey: lol, looks like I will have to get an eBay account
Keep watching

Hi nandobang,
been around here for a while and instandly hoping that you´ll have success in the end - your case is the most beautiful I have ever seen (even compared to any new HTC). Do you have any ideas concerning the "production" - will it be injection molding or rapid prototyping? Nevertheless, please let us know any news....
cheers!

Hello my friends,
I'm so sorry I haven't posted any news til now, but I've been so busy with college and my job at least I'm getting on vacations now!
I've made a few virtual prototypes, measuring stuff, and already got the nice mirror plastic I'll be using.
@elSiko: hey man, thank you! I'll be making a fast prototype, since I don't have any pro tools at my disposal. Brazil sucks at some points =\
I was thinking about some pretty hard epoxi to get all external case parts togheter, and an internal plastic skeleton to hold the PCBs and such... Still figuring out the best way to do all this, but I WILL, lol
Keep watching, since now I have more free time.
Thanks, everyone!

Can you make a version with keyboard, for normal Wizards . Will you sell this case?

Hello my friends,
I finally got some vacations!!! God knows I'm happy, lol!
Well, my Wizzy is lying here, dismantled on my desk, waiting for it's new shell... I'm planning the way things will go inside the case, how to lock everything down, etc. New pics on first post!
What do you think about this name?
HTC Obsidian
The design reminds me of the obsidian vulcanic stone, as it is mirror black.
janneman22 said:
Can you make a version with keyboard, for normal Wizards . Will you sell this case?
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It sure is possible. In my case the keyboard is damaged, and I wanted a thinner device (without spending so much on a Touch Pro... you wouldn't believe how expensive these things are in Brazil... as a milk box is US$ 2,00 and a Touch Pro is US$ 2000,00... something around that basis)
I'm really considering making these to sell... so many requests.......
Right now, I'm doing a sketch, and then we'll jump into production! \o/

I can tell you that my mouth is watering right now.
Love your concept. I'll be buying one if you manage to finish!
Boas férias!!!

xusso said:
I can tell you that my mouth is watering right now.
Love your concept. I'll be buying one if you manage to finish!
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Hey, really thank you! I was thinking about changing some bits, but looks like people like it.
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Boas férias!!!
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Muito obrigado! You speak portuguese?
While I'm doing the final sketch, I'll give a hint for a little surprise: does anyone ever got tired of the case color?
For everyone who asked me if I would sell this: I'm thinking about it. As soon as I start to produce mine, I'll see how easy or hard it is to make one... Since I don't have any pro tools, would take too long for a "mass" production, lol.
Cheers, and thank you, everyone!

Sim, sou português!
Estou muito ansioso por ver o teu projeto a ganhar forma!
Tens algum blog onde se possa seguir o progresso?
Translation:
Looking forward to see it finished!
Where can we follow the progress?

im kinda sceptic about this, things like volume control will be very difficult to make work. the final work looks too optimistic... keep it up and dont destroy your wizard, sometimes just _GOOD_ paintwork is simpler and looks cool

HD2 Tmobile US compatible cradle?

I`ve ordered one of these nice and shiny charging cradles on Ebay but had to figure out that it doesn`t fit to my US HD2 . Before I am going to waste more money on another one does anybody has a suggestion or experience with a cradle and the US HD2? BTW I was looking for one with the 3.5mm plugin.

We'll see...
Not sure, but I just ordered this one yesterday, and can let you know when it arrives. Here's hoping.
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Sorry I have to say that, but it's excactly the one that I've ordered and it doesn't fit . The updated their product description, now it's stating:
This is the top of the line cradle for GSM unlocked HTC Touch HD2/Leo phone (European version). This cradle does not fit any other versions such as T-mobile HD2.
Hope I am wrong and it works for you!! Please let me know

Hello Everyone,
I ordered one of these from www.expansys-usa.com
Deluxe Desktop Cradle
Sould be here tomorrow. Will give feedback once I give it a test
Thank you,
Monnie

Cradle for US t-mobile HD2
hi all, i did find a cradle that says it is for the US Tmobile version hd2...if you are looking for it go to the web below. (it does NOT have 3.5mm jack thought)!!!
thinkhd2.com under desktop charger tag...sorry newbie on the site so cant post the link

mc_hoschi said:
Sorry I have to say that, but it's excactly the one that I've ordered and it doesn't fit . The updated their product description, now it's stating:
This is the top of the line cradle for GSM unlocked HTC Touch HD2/Leo phone (European version). This cradle does not fit any other versions such as T-mobile HD2.
Hope I am wrong and it works for you!! Please let me know
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Does anyone know the spec differences between the two? I'm fairly good with customizations and it can't be that much of a change. I'll be holding on to my order and seeing what I can do when it arrives. Still hopin

ORA Deluxe Cradle Not Compatible With USA HTC HD2
Hello Everyone,
The one I got from www.expansys-usa.com does not allow the HTC HD2 USA model to fully seat into the base, therefore the microusb/3.5mm jack do not fully engage into the phone. You can see, the back edge of the cradle would need to have some material removed to allow the phone to seat all the way down. Hope the picture helps explain the problem. I have not decided yet to return the product or do surgery on my new cradle. It is a real pity because, I really like this cradle.
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Thank you,
Monnie

GREAT i just wasted money on a stupid craddle i bought on ebay it should be its way this week. now what am i suppose to do

Found this...
http://www.thinkhd2.com/htc-hd2-sync-desktop-cradle-9681.html

Looks like all of us who got one with the 3.5mm jack all got the exact same cradle, despite where we purchased it from. And we all found out the TMOUS HD2 does not seat on the cradle.
MonnieRock - I would not try doing surgery on the cradle if I were you. Unless you're very good at doing this sort of thing. I've already tried with a drill, vice and hack saw. The plastic is pretty thick and the areas that need to be trimmed are where some of is not only thick, but also some wires are under that area. Hard to try dismantling the cradle, because wires are stuck to both sides of the insider parts with wax and screws. And part of the area that needs trimming is right near the jacks. I made a good mess of the cradle, but never could get my TMOUS HD2 to seat properly. The 2nd battery slot does at least work though . I recommend you just return the cradle for a refund if you can get a refund.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
MonnieRock - I would not try doing surgery on the cradle if I were you. Unless you're very good at doing this sort of thing. I've already tried with a drill, vice and hack saw. The plastic is pretty thick and the areas that need to be trimmed are where some of is not only thick, but also some wires are under that area. Hard to try dismantling the cradle, because wires are stuck to both sides of the insider parts with wax and screws. And part of the area that needs trimming is right near the jacks. I made a good mess of the cradle, but never could get my TMOUS HD2 to seat properly. The 2nd battery slot does at least work though . I recommend you just return the cradle for a refund if you can get a refund.
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Darnell,
I carefully inspected the cradle and confident I could modify the cradle with excellent results and still remain cosmetically perfect. I have a lot of tools for this kind of work. To tell you the truth, I do not want to spend the time on it. One of the reasons I got it from www.expansys-usa.com so that if needed, I could return for a full refund. I will just wait until there is a compatible cradle for the T-Mobile USA HD2.
Thank you,
Monnie

And are there any news on a cradle that works with the US HD2? Anybody got one that fits his TMOUS device? Can`t belive that they sold so many of them and there is no loading cradle available yet...

Looks like there is now a T-Mobile US HD2 cradle available:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290424443095&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Just ordered one .

I`ve ordered one too as soon as I`ve seen your post. I am quite curious if it will fit ... fingers crossed! I need a cradle on my desk!

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Looks like there is now a T-Mobile US HD2 cradle available:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290424443095&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Just ordered one .
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nice... let us know if it truly fits
no sense in more people ordering without confirmation... though i suppose at least one user had to be the guinea pig

Just ordered this one too! Ill keep you guys posted.

I'll report once I get it. I'm only wondering if it will hold the device so snug, that I might have to shed the Bodyguardz skin that I am using.
I got confirmation that it has shipped. I sure hope it arrives this week.
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...though i suppose at least one user had to be the guinea pig
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I think this time it will be more like me enjoying the sweet cradle longer than most others . I really think this one will hold it just fine. Same seller who was selling the European version. And when selling the European version they made it clear it may not fit the US T-Mobile version. So I'm sure they know the differnce now that they've specified one for the US T-Mobile version. They've even got the US T-Mobile HD2 in the picture.

Got mine today. Fits perfect and looks great. Very well built.

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Got mine today. Fits perfect and looks great. Very well built.
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I got mine today too. Have you tried seeing if the the audio jack plays STEREO audio when you use headphones with it and play music on your T-Mobile US HTC HD2?
I'll let you all see the message I just sent the seller of this cradle (legendzonetrade):
I received this item and it does not properly fit the US T-Mobile HTC HD2. I had to press very hard to get it into the cradle and even then the headphone jack only played MONO not stereo audio.
How can you get me a cradle that properly fits the US T-Mobile HD2 and properly seats the audio jack so that audio plays in stereo?
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I also had to remove the bottom portion of my BodyGuardz cover. The part just below the battery cover, the small bottom back piece of BodyGuardz protective covering. Just to get the device to seat at all. I did not really mind that. I do mind the device not seating well enough for stereo audio out of the headphone jack.
I'll keep everyone posted once I hear/know more. For the moment, I can't recommend getting this one. Anyone who has one already or one coming, check if the device seats well enough for the headphone jack to play STEREO through your headphones.

Audio jack works but had to fiddle with it to get it to play.

Picked up mine....nice surprise two covers

Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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Nice phone!
Do you know the exact model number?
I am tempted by the black leather back, even more so if this also comes with the UK leather version

Its the LG-H815 but above the barcode there is printed "NLD" which mean Nederland (Netherlands)

*justintime* said:
Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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You still need a different cover for wireless charging. That's for NFC. I tried mine on both G3 LG WCD 100 and S4 wireless charging pad. Its not working xD.

Hmm... so maybe the early rumors were true in that a leather purchase gets you a leather and plastic. It was a rumor, no one has really since talked about it, and yet here we see an example of it being true at a retail purchase level.
QI wireless will surely be achieved by a sticker, so no new back will be "needed" - they just have not hit the market yet.

"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?

what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?

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what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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"dutch T-mobile shop" stated in first post

I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?

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I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?
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Oh man.. this is what I do not want to hear and see, but I feel like inside I was going to hear this. With all of the hype and that stupid "12 weeks to make a leather back" total BS, they better have found a way to make that leather stick and stick on curves because if not, that is an utter fail.

two backs
i was told buy a guy in the car phoned warehouse ashton UK that he had two phones in the back and they had two back covers with them in the box

eakew said:
"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?
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Yes champagne volume rockers and power button.
Phurkus said:
what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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Very big sale at T-mobile.
It's for two year contract 6GB 4G(LTE) data bundle. And 120minutes calling for 35 euro a month.
And LG G4 for free.
BTW it's a great phone! Very happy with it. Blown away of the photos.... But okay everything looks better than a HTC one. [emoji3]
I have Blinkfeed set as my home screen. [emoji6]

I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday

gavo84 said:
how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday
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Think they made a mistake

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]

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About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]
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Yes. They are red QuadBeat 3 buds.

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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Yay!
I work at Carphone and am waiting for my store to get out stock in. But now I know the black has a pair cover I am gonna ore order tomorrow for that free Bluetooth speaker
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Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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jaggrey said:
Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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LG is making an "exclusive" gold G4 just for Spain. Point is.... not entirely uncommon for them to make deals that vary from place to place.
Another case in point? Only USA people get the G4 "freebies", Spain does not.