"Obsidian"
Custom Wizard casemod
Hello my friends,
I've been using a Wizard for quite a while now. I've added a lot of programs and utilities, removed some, modified others, but never changed my ROM (still with its WM5 )
Recently, my QWERTY keyboard got damaged, and the case is all scratched too... So I've got this (strange) idea: make a new case for my Wizard. Since the keyboard is damaged, I'll remove it and try to make this babe a little slimer.
I would like to state that in no way I have any connection to HTC, nor this is a new HTC device. It's only a personal project to improve my own device.
November 24, 2009
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Just started to make the skeleton frontal piece that holds the LCD and front buttons. Horray! \o/
November 20, 2009
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Finished the prototype for the case. Making some final adjustments, then ready to make the real thing!
This prototype now has another cool feature: it has an internal skeleton and an external shell, so you can have multiple "skins" to change whenever you get sick of one. I've rendered a red shell just to show an example.
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Case prototype (Frontal shell, frontal skeleton, back skeleton and back shell)
Mounting schematic
November 11, 2009
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Finally got some vacations, and now I can dedicate myself to this dreamy project. Here are some pics of the old Wizard, just as the darky-obsidian-glossy-mirror-like plastic, lol.
October 8, 2009
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Today I've finished the prototype in Photoshop, since that was vital for this project. These buttons were removed, since I've never had any use for them: volume slider, comm manager and voice dial (is it?). The camera button is missing, but I'll insert it there tomorrow .
October 7, 2009
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I'll be using hard and soft plastic for the case. The soft plastic will be used where there are buttons, since it'll be a single piece (as Nokia N78 did with some front buttons). The rest will be hard plastic. I'll try to achieve a black piano-ish finish, just as the black Diamond.
I've took some measuring, and if my plans are right, I'll take 1/3 out of its thickness!
I love my Wizard, but I always felt it kinda chubby in my pocket, and the screen bevel always makes it hard to hit the X button with the bare finger... So I'll be making a flat front, making it easy to hit the corners and other sliding moves.
PICTURES
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This is the initial prototype. Dead flat front, single piece buttons and plate, except the central confirmation button.
Old case part... Full of scratches, as I've sprayed it all black once, but it went like crap. Nevermore, hah.
The plastic being used for the outside casing. Yes, from old CD cases... They have such a high quality!
Actually they aren't that reflective... Some sanding and car polishing compounds make that baby ;D
Old case in a size comparison
More scratched parts
This is how bad the old spraying went...
My Wizard fully disassembled
Later!
Wow. good luck!
Update on post #1
If you're successful with this can I pay you to do mine?
nateskates said:
If you're successful with this can I pay you to do mine?
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Hey man, I'll be posting pics during the proccess, so if anyone wants to do something similar they'll have some reference.
But it would be a pleasure, surely
More updates on #1
how will you get the keyboard to slide out?
@nateskates , he said that he had removed it because it's damaged. so there will be no keyboard at all. i wonder if absence of the keyboard can make some problems in windows... cause wizard roms have keyboard and now it will be unplugged... anyway, good luck!
V3R said:
i wonder if absence of the keyboard can make some problems in windows...
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I thought about that too, but I have already tested that before this project, and nothing weird happened.
I cannot guarantee that it won't cause any problems, but I presume that Windows was programmed in a way that it "expects" for keyboard events, and not "require" them.
If anyone is watching this, I have disassembled the Wizard again to make the CAD for the new case, to see how everything fits and the exact measures I need
Later!
How's your project? any progress? I can't wait to see it finished
This looks too good to be true , good luck and if you will do it , i will pay you any amount of money to do mine the same.
Hello my friends,
I'm sorry for these days without any updates, but here are some news
I was looking for a good plastic, one that would delivery a highly reflective surface, just as the Diamond... well, found one, so the part I was most worried about is done, lol.
Right now I'm still doing the CAD... everything gotta be very well measured and planned, as any milimeter counts!
Hopefully I will post both the CAD and a pic from the plastic.
@V3R: me too man, just can't wait to see my Wizard in shiny black!
@mat7ey: lol, looks like I will have to get an eBay account
Keep watching
Hi nandobang,
been around here for a while and instandly hoping that you´ll have success in the end - your case is the most beautiful I have ever seen (even compared to any new HTC). Do you have any ideas concerning the "production" - will it be injection molding or rapid prototyping? Nevertheless, please let us know any news....
cheers!
Hello my friends,
I'm so sorry I haven't posted any news til now, but I've been so busy with college and my job at least I'm getting on vacations now!
I've made a few virtual prototypes, measuring stuff, and already got the nice mirror plastic I'll be using.
@elSiko: hey man, thank you! I'll be making a fast prototype, since I don't have any pro tools at my disposal. Brazil sucks at some points =\
I was thinking about some pretty hard epoxi to get all external case parts togheter, and an internal plastic skeleton to hold the PCBs and such... Still figuring out the best way to do all this, but I WILL, lol
Keep watching, since now I have more free time.
Thanks, everyone!
Can you make a version with keyboard, for normal Wizards . Will you sell this case?
Hello my friends,
I finally got some vacations!!! God knows I'm happy, lol!
Well, my Wizzy is lying here, dismantled on my desk, waiting for it's new shell... I'm planning the way things will go inside the case, how to lock everything down, etc. New pics on first post!
What do you think about this name?
HTC Obsidian
The design reminds me of the obsidian vulcanic stone, as it is mirror black.
janneman22 said:
Can you make a version with keyboard, for normal Wizards . Will you sell this case?
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It sure is possible. In my case the keyboard is damaged, and I wanted a thinner device (without spending so much on a Touch Pro... you wouldn't believe how expensive these things are in Brazil... as a milk box is US$ 2,00 and a Touch Pro is US$ 2000,00... something around that basis)
I'm really considering making these to sell... so many requests.......
Right now, I'm doing a sketch, and then we'll jump into production! \o/
I can tell you that my mouth is watering right now.
Love your concept. I'll be buying one if you manage to finish!
Boas férias!!!
xusso said:
I can tell you that my mouth is watering right now.
Love your concept. I'll be buying one if you manage to finish!
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Hey, really thank you! I was thinking about changing some bits, but looks like people like it.
xusso said:
Boas férias!!!
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Muito obrigado! You speak portuguese?
While I'm doing the final sketch, I'll give a hint for a little surprise: does anyone ever got tired of the case color?
For everyone who asked me if I would sell this: I'm thinking about it. As soon as I start to produce mine, I'll see how easy or hard it is to make one... Since I don't have any pro tools, would take too long for a "mass" production, lol.
Cheers, and thank you, everyone!
Sim, sou português!
Estou muito ansioso por ver o teu projeto a ganhar forma!
Tens algum blog onde se possa seguir o progresso?
Translation:
Looking forward to see it finished!
Where can we follow the progress?
im kinda sceptic about this, things like volume control will be very difficult to make work. the final work looks too optimistic... keep it up and dont destroy your wizard, sometimes just _GOOD_ paintwork is simpler and looks cool
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I love my wing, well, did. It is malfunctioning now and instead of buying another one, for nearly the same price you can pick up a Hermes.
I'm not all that familiar with all these phones, but the Hermes seems more powerful, faster. Was curious if this is a good idea to switch or not...
Is there anyway to use Open Touch on the Hermes that you know of?
Thanks for the suggestions, comments.
vr24 said:
I love my wing, well, did. It is malfunctioning now and instead of buying another one, for nearly the same price you can pick up a Hermes.
I'm not all that familiar with all these phones, but the Hermes seems more powerful, faster. Was curious if this is a good idea to switch or not...
Is there anyway to use Open Touch on the Hermes that you know of?
Thanks for the suggestions, comments.
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No. OpenTouch is a Herald ROM only. The Hermes DOES have a few good ROMs, though as well as the ability for bigstorage roms. (60-80+ free mb of space.)
I guess you'll be hanging out with the Hermes folk now ...
Maybe go by their forum and check out some of the ROM's over there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=254
I don't want to go to that forum. lol.... The short time I've been here, I really like the couple people who keep this place alive!
I'm going to call HTC today sometime and get a price to fix it, TMobile said basically "too bad, so sad" because I didn't buy it from them.
Maybe if it's reasonable, I'll get it fixed and sell it... actually in really, really good condition besides malfunctioning button.
But the question still remains, is it a good switch? Or are there some negatives to going with that phone over the wing?
You should probably ask the people in that forum... I'm sure they'll sell you on it.
I guess you can look at it, like asking your current girlfriend why you should leave her for another girl... hahaha
Good point. I have a really bad taste in my mouth about HTC and T-Mobile right now though. T-Mobile won't do crap to help me, and HTC wants me to send it in then they'll tell me how much to repair. If it's a $200 repair bill... I'd buy a new one, but if I don't have them repair it, they charge you $40 to "look" at it. Unbelievable. Spending hundreds on a phone and 4 months later you got a brick due to poor manufacturing.
Ugh, sorry for the rant... I'm just a bit pissed off at the moment.
Ok well I took the plunge and got the Hermes. I ended up getting a SquareTrade warranty with it for $30, covers the phone for a year with no deductibles.. way cheaper than tmo's phone insurance too.
Anyways, I may sell the wing to someone here if anyone wants it (still works VERY well except for button issue that is probably software fixable/patchable).
It was very nice meeting you all, thanks.
Good luck.
Depends on how much you're selling it for. Also, post pictures of it to see what kind of condition its in.
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I won't be selling it until I get squared away with the new phone.
I'll definitely post up some pictures. The condition of it is Good. A few normal wear and tear scuffs but barely noticeable, no major scratches, screen is perfect condition (had screen protector on it). No wear on the buttons. I mean, really, if I had to rate it's condition on a scale of 1 - 10, I'd say it's an easy 9.
HTC said they would do repair, so if you can't fix it yourself, that may always be an option as well.
What seems like a fair price?
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SOLD!!!
I'm really tempted to "sell it" to a "friend" through ebay and have him get a squaretrade warranty on it, then send it in "broken" in 3 months. then I could get it fixed for a whopping $30
But I can't get myself to do it, I'm too honest.
The Hermes can do TouchFlo. Check this ROM out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
This one has an addon for it you can download:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
vr24 said:
SOLD!!!
I'm really tempted to "sell it" to a "friend" through ebay and have him get a squaretrade warranty on it, then send it in "broken" in 3 months. then I could get it fixed for a whopping $30
But I can't get myself to do it, I'm too honest.
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see, you have to look at it like this.... you got screwed with retail pricing on that phone ... so its not an issue about karma. it's totally fair.
Just out of curiosity what is this button issue your having?
My camera button stopped working and gave me a scare as i couldnt get into the bootloader after a bad flash.
theformula,
The phone has a mind of it's own, The d-pad button (right and sometimes top) just start "pressing" even though they aren't pressed, imagine trying to do something on the phone, writing email, messages, etc.. while someone his holding down that button. It's unusable.
I just got my 8525, and although the form factor on the wing is a bit better (barely different), I must say, the 8525 is a substantially better device. Not trying to talk trash, I loved my wing (and this community), but it just is what it is.
How is it better?
I feel like a jackass getting into it, lol... like "your wings suck" and I don't mean at ALL to come off like that. I still love my wing and it's getting fixed soon!
But.. why is the Hermes better?
- better battery cover, doesn't slide up during normal usage
- camera takes better pictures- better color handling, plus has FLASH
- SUBSTANTIALLY faster unit, it's a 400mhz processor and it shows drastically, just sliding S2U2 slider, or pressing the "end call" button and how fast it responds, opening apps, it's insanely noticeable, and my wing was OC'd to 273mhz. The Hermes just operates way, way, waaaaaayyyyyy faster - opening htc photo album is way faster, using gestures is faster, just everything
- Less hacks, no keyboard hacks or anything to use with ROMs
- No need for battery status software
- Cool software like "flashlight" that turns the flash on to illuminate
- The ROM's are more solid, better management software - has a manager that removes virtually all need to make registry tweaks (set IE cache/cookies, remove icons at bottom of today screen, etc.)
- Keyboard works WAY better, buttons are bigger and just incredibly easier to type on, never have to re-press a button or press harder for it to recognize keystoke... this is a selling point in and of itself.
- Has 3G capability (if you ever need it)- and certain models have front camera for video conference (need 3g i think)
- Has a scroll wheel on the side as well, that is a select button as well, so you can scroll down webpages and select links, scroll through contacts, etc.
- Has push-to-talk feature - if you ever decide to switch carriers, it's more than capable.
So thats what I can say for now... really, it's just a few milestones ahead, and I can't get over how much faster it is, previously daunting things on the wing or not an issue at all anymore.
to be fair, I'll mention a few things I like better about the wing
- the rubberized grip (looks less professional, but feels better)
- spring loaded slider
- cover for micro sd card slot, the Hermes' isn't bad, but the covered one is better
- slightly smaller form factor
- better button placement
- The screen colors are a little more vibrant on wing (although hardly noticeable)
Basically, the form factor and design of the wing are nicer, but hardware (processor/camera/keyboard) and software are much better on Hermes.
But as I said, I'm NOT trying to dog on the wings - so lets not turn this into a flame xbox360 vs ps3 style war.
I take it you have sold the phone?
I hope you haven't. I have a P4350 and I need a LCD very badly. Mine was smashed a while back and I have really started to miss my phone. Right now I am using a Nokia N95 and it's great but it wasn't a Herald.
Well I haven't sold the phone, I'll have my hands on it for another few months unfortunately. Unless you are willing to pay $180 for it... it hasn't been fixed. Everything works perfectly except the d-pad seems to have a mind of its own (I THINK it's the dpad) -- condition is an easy 8.5 - 9 out of 10.
How to disassembly... reasembly and paint a HTC Wizard.....
I did it once with a wizard stole on the Mexico streets,... yes with a gun!!! jajaja
and posted in todopocketpc buthad some issues with the frnt case cause it has a panit of chrome and cuprum and the paint dont dry at all... but I will try again the Thing Pics of paint, and a tutorial for disassembly may be a great Thing on XDA Developers...
So wait for the customization....
Things To GET
Well....
We need somethings to get this job succesfull withou broke some little things on the wizard...
See the Factory tecnical manual to see how to disassembly is on WIKI...
1.- As you see it we new a screw driver star kind, on the store are so many try to get any with many sizes see the screw behind the stylus? all are the same maybe 5 or 4 screws more.
2.- Get a screw driver cross kind very thin cause inside are at least 2 screws of this kind.
3.- A piece of hard plastic like in the tecnical manual... if you dont get one of this tool, use your nails or something
4.- We need something to get two kind of sandpaper one hard and one soft not so much... maybe for metal the softest you can get and one watters the middle one.
5.- The paint.... You need acrylic enamel on spray!!!! a bottle for every color is enough.
(this is a limitation on the front cover... You only can see the silver paint.... and yes is paint not metal... but under the silver paint is a layer of aluminium and under the aluminium is a layer of Cuprum, this cant be painted as well)
Well i have did this long time ago see this: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DGT2LCOJ
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So lets work
Somebody stole my wizard (AGAIN!!!! i only have a wizard at least 1 year... im so sad...) last night i was waiting for the BUS and two guys atacks me with a knife, they took my Wizard and my money. So I cant test anymore painting techniques and photos with the device... so let me found a cheap wizard to start over...
The good news are... i finish last night but furious my Tutorial. I hope you can enjoy the job.. dont be afraid of disassembly your device.
This is the link to the tutorial: (xcuse my poor english)
HTC_wizard_Painting_Tutorial.doc
DownloadLink: http://rapidshare.com/files/149721020/HTC_wizard_Painting_Tutorial.doc
Video
The tutorial has a painting technique and it said "see video1 or 2 or 3" what ever there are the links to the videos... you can see it too at my profile in Youtube see my Signature and finish the job...
This is the painting JOB:
Video painting 1 the back case
Video painting 3 the front case
Video painting 4 the battery case
Video painting 2 the back camera case
This is how finish my Wizard
For the final sight!!!!
My almost new HTC Wizard... i need to get another device... until i get one i'm widde open to answer all your questions...
I dont paint the buttons side cause i cant got the black spray acrilic enamel on Sunday.... nobody works! so...
Enjoy your almost new device too.
Link:
My Silver HTC Wizard
BTW... dont paint your qwerty!! pad.
Special thank on the .doc TUTTORIAL.
Hi + Que PPC,
It's a shame someone stole your phone , where it was? I'm also from Guad. I will look at your videos at home, looks interesting. BTW if you are looking for new phone I have a friend of mine is selling one here in Guad. Maybe I will sell mine very cheap. Also in Plaza de la Tecnologia in the downtown I found a little store where they sell Wizards for like $4000 MXP. (news).
yup!
edgar0204 said:
Hi + Que PPC,
It's a shame someone stole your phone , where it was? I'm also from Guad. I will look at your videos at home, looks interesting. BTW if you are looking for new phone I have a friend of mine is selling one here in Guad. Maybe I will sell mine very cheap. Also in Plaza de la Tecnologia in the downtown I found a little store where they sell Wizards for like $4000 MXP. (news).
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Mnmmm it was in J. Luis Verdia and Medrano... don't go to there is dangerous but what can I do my girlfriend lives near there... its in Analco near the Papillon boutique.. so let me see cause the device is so expensive in Plaza de la Tecnologia in downtown right straght to the normal stairs on second floor isnt it? I saw Wizards in Mercadolibre.com at $2199 MXP but I bought my device in 1200 so... I think it was a price that i cant reject jajaja. So let me know if your friend is interesting on selling his device ok?
It isnt hard if you have a question dont dude to ask... where do you live? its nice to see people in guadalajara with Wizards. I saw someday a girl with a wizard but it was 8125. mine is a qtek or mda style.
My Black Wizard
+ Que PPC nice job with the tutorial. It must be real pain in the *** to take pictures at every step. It was a great help for me.
I have painted my Wizard with acrylic matt paint. Although you can't see it in the crappy pictures, it looks good.
Are we the only ones that have painted our Wizards? Strange...
If anyone else has painted his Wizard please post some pictures.-
Nice job men!!!!
BTW YES!!! i was a painfull work cause i have to see and attach pictures of my stolen wizard all over the night
The painting job in matt looks great man! but tell me does you remove the aluminium layer of the front case?
I dont know if people paints their wizards but in TODOPOCKETPC.com forums i see some people that combines with higly designs made by pace litle pieces of tape, it looks amazing!!!!
Nice job man!! if you experiment issues on the painting job please comment it here to get perfection on our job.
Thank you for your good words.
I didn't remove the aluminiun layer in the front panel.
I have some issues with the paint job but it is my fault. I didn't polish the paint & now every time that I scratch the paint with my nails little parts of paint are removed. This happens especially in the front buttons. I will repaint it when i have free time, because as you know better than me it takes a lot of time, & of course I will polish it.
I will search at todopocketpc.com to see what are you talking about but it will be hard because I am from Greece & I am not familiar with the language.
It will be helpful if you send me a link. It will save me a lot of time.
Thank you in advance.
samxein said:
Thank you for your good words.
I didn't remove the aluminiun layer in the front panel.
I have some issues with the paint job but it is my fault. I didn't polish the paint & now every time that I scratch the paint with my nails little parts of paint are removed. This happens especially in the front buttons. I will repaint it when i have free time, because as you know better than me it takes a lot of time, & of course I will polish it.
I will search at todopocketpc.com to see what are you talking about but it will be hard because I am from Greece & I am not familiar with the language.
It will be helpful if you send me a link. It will save me a lot of time.
Thank you in advance.
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Of course let me search thats why... is in spanish!!! cause im mexican.
Jejeje yes the scratching nails front case issue...
YES you need to polish Everything even tough the buttons...
But maybe it becames without lightning buttons jajaja after the job cause maybe it will brokes because of the hard polish... or... levae without paint the buttons
OMG!
this is amazing!
makes me want to dissassemble my wing and paint it matte black
My Wizards!!!
Both stolen!!! It seems i had a spell over the wizard painting a few days after I painted my wizards was stolen!!
Painted Wizard
I painted mine over a month ago. I was a little hesitant thinking that the paint would get chipped or scratched. but I haven't had any problems. I had an extra case that came off of a dead wizard. I removed all stickers and pads, and the front keys. I sanded with wet sand paper 600 grit. On the front I used a small wire brush to make sure that all the surfaces were properly prepaired. I wiped everyting with acetone. Then I sprayed several light coats of black appliance enamel. I sanded everything down again for the last coat. Then I let it cure for over a week before installing.
WOW!!
Its beautyfull!!!
Acetone!? Yes! it cleans very well for grease and dust... great work! Its a beutyfull lady like a woman with new dress!
Sorry i dont mean you to be jeleause... Nice work Men.
I saw this machine somewhere you are the first that place this little plastic things on buttons cause your fingers isnt it? I reed it some day...
Nice to see more PIMPED Wizard....
SO Please GUYS P I M P M Y D E V I C E
+ Que PPC said:
Its beautyfull!!!
Acetone!? Yes! it cleans very well for grease and dust... great work! Its a beutyfull lady like a woman with new dress!
Sorry i dont mean you to be jeleause... Nice work Men.
I saw this machine somewhere you are the first that place this little plastic things on buttons cause your fingers isnt it? I reed it some day...
Nice to see more PIMPED Wizard....
SO Please GUYS P I M P M Y D E V I C E
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I liked your red and black one as well...
Why yes, yes I was the first with the bumps... It's just two part 5min epoxy. Mix up a small batch wait about 3 min, it should just start to gel. Then with the butt of a small paint brush, dab it on. Two times if you want a little bit taller bumps. Now I can easily find the hard keys with my fat fingers.
samxein said:
+ Que PPC nice job with the tutorial. It must be real pain in the *** to take pictures at every step. It was a great help for me.
I have painted my Wizard with acrylic matt paint. Although you can't see it in the crappy pictures, it looks good.
Are we the only ones that have painted our Wizards? Strange...
If anyone else has painted his Wizard please post some pictures.-
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Respect man, but seems like You miss most of your Art classes in Elementary School...
CyberianIce said:
Respect man, but seems like You miss most of your Art classes in Elementary School...
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I like it, so...
i enjoyed both painted wizards! i have another wizard, guess ill paint it myself on my spare time.
Hope you can men!
Good luck men!? if you had a question post it men!
After going through this with my X1 which I took very good care of, I was sure to be extra careful with the X2.
SE blamed HTC for the design flaw that lead to cracks in the X1, well SE... what do you say about the X2 then???
After picking up my phone yesterday I felt a sharper more jagged feel near my camera button. I did not pay attention to it at first, but I felt it again and took a closer look. This is what I found!
DO NOT REPOST OR UPLOAD THESE PICTURES ANYWHERE ELSE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION!(linking to this thread is ok)
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Here you can see the crack goes through to where the metal tab for the battery cover locks.
So the question remains, was I just unlucky? Anybody else notice cracking there in that spot? Looking at it closely I can tell you it's awfully thin and I can't see it holding up for very long.
The only thing I can say that I do differently from the average X2 owner is swap out my batteries every day. I have a standalone charger and 2 spare batteries since my X1 and I prefer to swap fresh batteries every morning instead of using USB to charge so that I don't prematurely wear out (or break) the USB jack, as was a problem with some X1s. Surely this can't cause abnormal case cracking can it???
****, i jsut looked and i have a crack too.. omg i have taken good care of this phone
mtechfan your not alone with the swapping of the battery's each day i did this with my C902. i dont have a crack by the cam button but i have just noticed that were the stylis slides in the little clip that helped lock it in place is no longer there
Well, we better all check our phones!
If we look at this from a design view... I think that the plastic bit that has the clip, that holds onto the battery cover is too thin.
I can imagine the other one on the top side failing just the same.
the back cover hinges near to that point, wouldnt be surprised if it puts extra stress on that side. i dnt think they designed it in mind with people swapping the battery every day.
had my X2 over 5months and touch wood not a crack or anything on it so far. i dont swap the battery though. my x1 had cracks, keyboard failures, peeling varnish from back cover and all manner of problems by 5months...
i was only inspecting my phone the other day and thinking to myself at how well the X2 has lasted compared to the X1. very pleased with the build quality so far.
i think we will have to recommend to everyone to avoid taking off the back cover more than they have too...
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i think we will have to recommend to everyone to avoid taking off the back cover more than they have too...
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Well, that does not solve the problem. It is a ticking time bomb, who says it wont crack anyways? amdx2 does not mention swapping batteries.
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Well, that does not solve the problem. It is a ticking time bomb, who says it wont crack anyways? amdx2 does not mention swapping batteries.
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The back side area only cracked for that person because of careless ness. When you putting on the battery cover on any phone and you dont take time to see what your doing thats what gonna happen. The X2 battery cover has to metal strips at the side to be placed on the grove of the phone< when you dont place it in the grove properly it will push out the side of the phone and may brake just like what you see in those pictures you see there. So we cant blame SE for our negligence
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The back side area only cracked for that person because of careless ness. When you putting on the battery cover on any phone and you dont take time to see what your doing thats what gonna happen. The X2 battery cover has to metal strips at the side to be placed on the grove of the phone< when you dont place it in the grove properly it will push out the side of the phone and may brake just like what you see in those pictures you see there. So we cant blame SE for our negligence
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Don't be so bloody ignorant, jumping to assumptions like that! Did you even bother to read the text?
That is my phone and I KNOW HOW TO PUT THE DAMN BATTERY COVER ON! I take very good care of every device I have ever owned.
This cracked over time, it has nothing to do with me being careless. Your X2 will crack soon enough, then will you say you were careless?
It's a very thin piece of plastic, take a close look!
Ohh...
I just looked aswell, and found that crack too :S
And it is two crack in an early phase too on the other side of the phone...
BAD designing SONY ERICSSON !!
kepeder said:
I just looked aswell, and found that crack too :S
And it is two crack in an early phase too on the other side of the phone...
BAD designing SONY ERICSSON !!
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OK, so I want to know if you change your batteries often or do you just charge your phone by USB?
Can you also take pictures of the cracks on your phone for comparison to the one I have?
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Well, that does not solve the problem. It is a ticking time bomb, who says it wont crack anyways? amdx2 does not mention swapping batteries.
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how long have you had your X2?
* edit * to keep this thread constructive i think it would be helpful for people replying to this thread to specify how long theyve owned their X2, whether theyve spotted any cracks (and where) and whether they swap the batterys or remove the back cover on a regular basis.
that way it can be established if theres a particular batch of X2s that are flawed and if theres a main cause or if its just random.
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how long have you had your X2?
* edit * to keep this thread constructive i think it would be helpful for people replying to this thread to specify how long theyve owned their X2, whether theyve spotted any cracks (and where) and whether they swap the batterys or remove the back cover on a regular basis.
that way it can be established if theres a particular batch of X2s that are flawed and if theres a main cause or if its just random.
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Good idea, I got mine around the end of March. Not that long really, the phone looks brand new except for the crack. I use screen protectors as well.
thats not long at all then. so about 8 weeks...
ive had a close look at that side, with the cover on it seems strong enough. but with the cover off its not all that strong. looks like the back cover provides quite a lot of the overal phone strength. the cover has metal hinges too so if anything is going to give it will be the plastic on the casing. dont really see why they had to hinge it. theyve had to put two holes there to accomodate the hinge, if they had kept a normal slide in and click back cover they could of made the casing much more solid. i suppose they thought they where being clever by having a cover with a nice locking mechanism.
ive had mine since february and the guy who had it before me must of had it a few weeks. so mine is nearly 5 months old. but ive probably only taken the back cover off about a dozen times at the most.
i also notice that the crack is quite close to the camera button.. i wonder if using the camera a lot contributes to the crack forming. i dont take many pictures so rarely use the button. just done a few tests and if u press hard on the camera button you can see the case flex slightly..
well, i don't change battery but i need take out the battery less 4 or 5 times a week to restart the phone cuz it has crushed.. also i have drop the phone a few times already..
since MR2 my phone hasn't really crashed only need a soft reset from time to time.. which i think its normal since its WINMO afterall
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.... i also notice that the crack is quite close to the camera button.. i wonder if using the camera a lot contributes to the crack forming. i dont take many pictures so rarely use the button. just done a few tests and if u press hard on the camera button you can see the case flex slightly..
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Yes, I have used the camera quite a bit. That might be it!
Same here, just noticed the crack exactly at the same location ((
Hi every body
I had an X1 too, and same problems that everyone had before, case crack without ANY reason while taking care well, keyboard problems after about 8-9 months and color disappearing of back.
As everyone knows SE said that HTC is responsible for problems of x1.
After all waiting for next work of SE, we have a very close arrival of x2 and x10, so I got an x2 because I BELEIVED that SE presented x2 with all experiences and failures of x1, considering that anyone in the world knew that x10 has a excellent build quality, .... and also some known lacks.
NOW I AM DISAPPOINTED AND MAD AT SE> SHAME ON SE because of having customers like us disappointed.
I had ericsson phones since T26, T28, ......, p800,910,990, x1 and now x2
The least they can do is a simple apology
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Same here, just noticed the crack exactly at the same location ((
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Well I hope every X2 owner reads this thread and checks their device!
thanks mtechfan for the post.
I checked my phone...so far no cracks. and I dropped it and took the battery out, god knows how many times already
Ah, gonna keep my fingers crossed
This might not be highly relevant, but I have a very similar crack in my X1 (same place). It started as a tiny triangular chip along that plastic ridge/bumper. I remove the battery a decent amount due to flashing. I have also had about 2 bad drops.
Wonder if that plastic stuff some people cover their whole phones with would help avoid this.
Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
Looks fairly good overall....
...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
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...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
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I think what you are seeing as "elastic bands" are the grooves in the case for the edge of the tablet to set in.
I will be very eager to hear from someone who gets this case to find out:
1. How it"snaps shut"?
2. If the flap opens all the way to the back?
3. How well the tablet stays in the case?
I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
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I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
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Looking forward to the pictures.
source for real store
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Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
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I am purchasing this within next week. Seller gave me the link for his store.
http://www.fintie.com/
IMHO, it looks like one of the best cases out there.
Per the description from the store link above,
5.Elastic band holds iPad 2 closed securely while on the go
maybe it does use elastic bands, but since it also says "iPad 2" I'll be curious to see how it actually works.
Elastic closure...
Having gone to where the original object was posted and downloaded the picture, I saw a swelling on the "upper corner" of the cover that could really only be a couple of things...
Given the lack of anything else that might be considered a candidate for some sort of closure, I figured it to be elastic...
Looking forward to seeing the confirmation in other people's pictures...I still may get it and modify it to my liking. Seems like the closest yet. I do wish it had some other type of closure...
P.S. I love the simplicity of the TPU "snapon" case I have now - seems to offer more corner / edge protection should I mishandle it.
I may buy another TPU case and add / modify it with portions of this case. now THAT would be cool...
I'm thinking that "snap shut" could means like one of those jean button...
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( then dock it through a circle ring ( case snap on to base ) to become desktop with angles and 360 rotation positions )
Top half of the circle above Acer logo is part of tablet case while the bottom half is use as the backstand. ( it is bendable at that part/or separate.... see the joint lines in pic #1 )
the Jeans snap shut button could either be on the top half or the lower half circle... served the same purpose.
Together, they combined to becomes a portfolio case
point #4 at the retail site:
http://www.fintie.com/Tablet PC Accessoriesessories/Acer?product_id=1190
4.Snap-n-Roll Design, Detachable case easily snaps into mount.
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I preferred that it is bendable instead of separate and snap on button on the top half of the ring.
top candidate for me and also because cannot get the Blurex case from Amazon to Canada.
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UnicornKaz said:
Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
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Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
pov1 said:
Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
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What's so strange about describing a gadget or item that is capable of "360° Rotation" ???
besides... that's what the ad said !!
maybe some people just run out of things to complain about, so they have to pick on a word ??
I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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Same here, but I have the blurex slim case now and love it, and but this case looks nice
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I received mine today, which I ordered last week from fintie.com. It looks exactly like the pictures on ebay or the fintie.com so I am not going to post any pictures. I also have a blurex slim case (same thing with roocase slim) and quality wise it is not as good as blurex, and it has one less indentation thingies in the case that serve as a stopper for different angels, but it stays fine even if you don put the table directly into those indentations.
Build quality is ok, not great but ok. Unfortunately just like in the pictures it has an elastic strap as a closure instead of a magnetic flap or a hard leather part like in blurex case. I am not sure if it wears out or becomes lose quickly, only the time will tell.
Swivel mechanism works fine, and it is a lot easier to remove the tablet from the case, if you are doing that constantly. The part that your tablet sits in is plastic, the rest is fake leather. It is slightly thinner than the blurex slim case, mainly due to less padding on the flap.
Removing the plastic case from the swivel mechanism and flap is NOT easy at all, and would probably break the notches on the swivel eventually.
Both sides are open like the blurex case, so this is not designed to protect your tablet if you drop it sideways, but more for to protect it from daily wear and tear and carrying in a bag, etc.
All in all I am happy with it and would buy it again, since I really wanted something that swivels for reading comics in portrait mode.
Thanks man, this seems like a nice case then. I will order mine within this week, although it will probably reach my hands one month after I do the purchase (I live in Mexico and our Postal Service is really crappy).
Looking forward to pictures as well, was wanting a case like this since I read mangas and also browse ebay in portiat mode.
I just Googled "iconia a500 rotating case" and found another vendor for this item and bought it for about $19 total. (Same item but $10 cheaper than the two vendors on Amazon; in fact this vendor is through amazonwebstore.) I'll try to remember to post back here after I get to play with it for a couple of days.
I received the case yesterday, so shipment from the vendor I used was quick enough for me. The case looks just as it does in pictures posted in this thread already, so I won't add more.
The thickness of the case material seems like it will protect the tablet very well from abrasion damage. As for impact damage, dropping small/light things onto the case shouldn't damage the tablet inside--or even dropping the tablet itself onto a hard floor unless the tablet lands right on a corner as the sides are exposed. (Even then, the case will protect it a little bit as it does extend over the edges of the Iconia a little.)
When the case is open, access is unobstructed to all buttons and ports except, of course, the docking port. When the case is closed, the elastic band covers the camera and the headphone port. I can't imagine anyone trying to take pictures with the Iconia closed in the case, but blockage of the headphone port could be a problem for people who want to close the case securely with the elastic band and listen to music through wired headphones at the same time.
There are two preset angles in this case. Using the trusty eyeballing method, one is 50 deg and the other is 65 deg. There is enough friction to set the tablet at any angle between there and not much give to set beyond.
The rotation works as advertised and is the reason why I got this particular case. I spent $19 on it and feel it's a good value. If you find a deal on this case for $10-$15, then you shouldn't even hesitate.
$17.99 now at Amazon.com
Same case ... just through a different retailer.
same manufacture... just supplies to different retailers and they in turn set their own price.
http://www.amazon.com/Iconia-Multi-...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315109306&sr=1-72
Some other examples... but the above is currently the cheapest being at $17.99.
($19.97)
http://www.amazon.com/PU-Rotating-C...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110415&sr=1-92
and this one won't even be available till Sept/20
($22.87)
http://www.amazon.com/DURAGADGET-De...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110603&sr=1-1
Hey all,
I wanted to share with you my progress on a little pet project.
Since Google never got around to releasing their charging dock for the N10, I thought I'd have a bit of a play and see if I could come up with one myself. Fortunately, having access to 3D printers at work, I can!
It's designed to work with the fantastic Pogo charger available on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B2166BS/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And I'm offering this as a free download to anyone that wants it, to go and print it themselves. File is the the widely used .stl format.
Ignore the scummy white crap in some of the pictures - I hadn't fully cleaned it yet!
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I have designed it to work with the magnetic charger available on Amazon, and it is designed it to fit around this case, which it does:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AD6W57W/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am more than happy to draw up an alternate version with a thinner slot, for those who go caseless. Let me know if you would like me to draw this up!
Notes on building it:
The charging port fits VERY snugly, but that's kind of the point. Once it's in, it's in!
The hole underneath is so you can then feed the USB cable back through the unit. It is necessary to avoid having an ugly, trailing wire.
Any failures, damage, mishaps, injuries or deaths that you suffer as a result of this project I claim no responsibility for, I'm just trying to help you out!
Please let me know what you think, all feedback is welcome and I'm happy to redesign as necessary!
EDIT - NEW DOWNLOAD LINK, ALL FILES ZIPPED AS REQUESTED BY KTNEMEC:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=23201521075832552593
Enjoy.
Love it.
If reasonably priced, I'm ready to purchase!!
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If reasonably priced, I'm ready to purchase!!
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Not for sale! Up as a free download, because I'm a nice guy. :laugh:
Just need the pogo charger from Amazon, and a friendly local 3d-print bureau.
STP
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Not for sale! Up as a free download, because I'm a nice guy. :laugh:
Just need the pogo charger from Amazon, and a friendly local 3d-print bureau.
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can you convert it to STEP file or IGS?
It looks great. But why create it so thick? Wouldn't it print faster and cheaper if this is thin-wall out? Maybe create a screw slot to screw in a metal plate to make it feel more solid.
How much did it cost you to print that? I don't see how the Pogo cable get fix in so it won't move around.
How much did it cost you for the 3d printing? Im taking an engineering class and I might be able to do this as one of the projects next semester.
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Hey all,
Enjoy.
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My son and I are both be getting 3d printers for Xmas (his for his dorm room), I think this would make a very useful first print. Thank you!
Ed
workerantDroid said:
can you convert it to STEP file or IGS?
It looks great. But why create it so thick? Wouldn't it print faster and cheaper if this is thin-wall out? Maybe create a screw slot to screw in a metal plate to make it feel more solid.
How much did it cost you to print that? I don't see how the Pogo cable get fix in so it won't move around.
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You are indeed correct. Most 3D-print shops will be able to print it 'sparse', in as such that they can build the inner with a honeycomb structure, saving time and materials. As for costs - no idea I'm afraid - I'm lucky enough to be able to do projects like this for free!
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How much did it cost you for the 3d printing? Im taking an engineering class and I might be able to do this as one of the projects next semester.
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Hi, no idea on costs I'm afraid, although it's only a small project, no bigger footprint than a CD. It shouldn't cost the earth.
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My son and I are both be getting 3d printers for Xmas (his for his dorm room), I think this would make a very useful first print. Thank you!
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No problem - if you have a specific case with a different thickness then send me the dimensions - I'd be happy to draw an alternate with a different sized slot for you!
As an FYI -
both UPS (in 4 pilot cities - NYC, SF, ...) and Shapeways.com can quote you to print it
Both quotes are in the neighborhood of $200-250...
So yeah - i think its a great idea, but one would have to really put on a thinking cap in order to hollow out/redesign it in a way to use far less material. to get it down to what I would think is a reasonable price point (~$50)
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can you convert it to STEP file or IGS?
It looks great. But why create it so thick? Wouldn't it print faster and cheaper if this is thin-wall out? Maybe create a screw slot to screw in a metal plate to make it feel more solid.
How much did it cost you to print that? I don't see how the Pogo cable get fix in so it won't move around.
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IGES & STEP formats now up.
mingiunate said:
As an FYI -
both UPS (in 4 pilot cities - NYC, SF, ...) and Shapeways.com can quote you to print it
Both quotes are in the neighborhood of $200-250...
So yeah - i think its a great idea, but one would have to really put on a thinking cap in order to hollow out/redesign it in a way to use far less material. to get it down to what I would think is a reasonable price point (~$50)
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Wow... crazy money for the solid model - can they not run it as a sparse model with a hollowed-out inner?
^ might as well invest on a printer if price is around $250.
I need to do more homework on these 3D printers.
Thank you very much.
I requested this item here in Germany.
The Volume is 115 ccm, so i must pay 80 Euro for this.
Uhhhh i must think about tis.....
Bastlwastl2010 said:
Thank you very much.
I requested this item here in Germany.
The Volume is 115 ccm, so i must pay 80 Euro for this.
Uhhhh i must think about tis.....
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I have seen this price as well, but I think it should be cheaper for a hollow version (price found on plastikliebe.de).
@jonnug
which program did you use to make the model?
I have a FabLab with open workshop here in Nuremberg with 3D printers.
If i understand it right i must only pay for the material.
I wil go on Friday or Saturday in and check this.
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I have seen this price as well, but I think it should be cheaper for a hollow version (price found on plastikliebe.de).
@jonnug
which program did you use to make the model?
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I drew it in SolidWorks, very easy package to use.
Hey, thank you for this! I had started to model one but wasn't making good progress then I saw this and it is perfect! I just got a Makerbot Replicator 2 for the Robotics Club at my school and my teacher said he would start the print before he left school today, but in the software for it, we chose to do a hexagonal infill to save time and filament but it is still estimated to take 6 hours. I hope it will not be too light due to it being hollow, but I will post pictures and impressions tomorrow. Thank you again!
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Hey, thank you for this! I had started to model one but wasn't making good progress then I saw this and it is perfect! I just got a Makerbot Replicator 2 for the Robotics Club at my school and my teacher said he would start the print before he left school today, but in the software for it, we chose to do a hexagonal infill to save time and filament but it is still estimated to take 6 hours. I hope it will not be too light due to it being hollow, but I will post pictures and impressions tomorrow. Thank you again!
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The honeycomb infill is exactly how I designed it to be made - as you can see from previous posts the costs for a solid model are outrageous!
It took me about 6 hours to make it too.
The weight is quite light, but not so light that you send it flying when you prod the screen, so I think it's about right!
Works Great! Thanks!
Hey, I got the stand 2 days ago and its been pretty good so far. It cost about $6 to make and took about 6 hours and 45 minutes to print. It is hollow so it is very light and does get lifted up when I pick up the tablet but I'm working on a fix for that. My main complaint is when I put the cable through it was such a tight fit I can barely say it did. I ended up damaging some areas and edges using tools to push, pull, and force the damned thing through. Right now the charging part is slightly angled and I cant pull it out or push it in further to level it. The last picture attached kind of shows the honey comb fill. All in all I'm glad I printed it and thanks to Jonnug for designing it, it works even without a case on it. Thanks!