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Screwed by Expansys again

I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.

yzf750 said:
I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.
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I know the trouble about Expansys. I ordered a QTEK 8500 aka Cingular 3125 from them. When I received the product the outside screen did not work. I assumed it was a bad ROM flash / etc. I flashed another ROM on it and it still had the problem. When I called Expansys about the defect they told me is B Stock product and that I couldn't return. I asked them how they would sell a product that wasn't fully fucntioning. The only response I got back was that it was working when they shipped it out.
I will never deal with them again.

thanks for the heads up, though I've been staying away from expansys since their prices are never realistic anyways

UPDATE:
I received my touch pro screen protector today from expansys. Totally disapointed. The cost was 10 bucks. I consider it 10 bucks flushed down the toilet.
The screen protector is a 2 piece one. First of all mine is stamped backwards. Go figure, the speaker hole was cut backwards so it is off center of the light sensor led and ear hole itself. It covers the sensor and has a big space on the right of the earhole that shows the phone underneath.
Second, the bottom piece is larger then the phone pad widthwise (maybe a millimeter) so it lifts the corners up each time you use a pad button since it hits the case on both sides. It looks terrible after just a few uses.
I do not think I would pay more then 50 cents for something like this. I guess I will have to order from a reputable screen protector manufacture now and toss this one in the garbage where it belongs.

ehh i dunno about the screen protector stuff but taht 'coupon' that they didnt apply...was applied (or at least for me it was). It doesnt show up on the confirmation email but check your CC. They charged me 15 bucks less than the confirmation email. If things arent right you can call/email them about it. generally they're nice about it.
(again this is only from my personal experience that i had with them ONCE...not speaking for everyone)

I had emailed them about the problem with the screen protector. No reply as usual. I did get the discount finally also so that is squared away at least. I just want people to know that this is a cheaply made protector and definetly not worth 10 bucks for only one that you get. For the quality of it you should get a 10 pack at that price. Its sold as an Expansys brand screen protector. However it comes wrapped in another companys packaging with chinese lettering on it. It is a BHB screen protector. Why Expansys lists it as their brand I do not know. Google search on BHB finds them as low as 1.99
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center. You end up with bubbles around it when you use the scroll feature on with that button. It now sits in my trash can.
On the other hand if this item had been worth the money ,I would of gladly posted that also to be fair. I have found this forum to be a great place to get opinions of products to both buy and stay away from.
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I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.

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I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.
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Just ordered one ..thanks

Not sure about the screen protector, the one I ordered was HTC's ($10.99). I just have to deal with the cut-out for the front cam. Most of the other time I order from Clarivue.

Wow, that's pretty ****ty. I've never dealt with expansys, but I really never imagined they would be that bad. Looks like a person would be better off to:
1)search ebay
2)sort by: Price+shipping: lowest first
3)close your eyes
4)hold the down key
5)click the mouse
6)buy it
....but seriously, I just can't believe they do business like that.

yzf750 said:
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center.
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You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.

Thank you for the info on this one. Seeing as thought how many people have had problems with them I definitely wont even try them.

NuShrike said:
You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.
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The protector has stickers on it showing which side goes up, plus its sticky on one side only. It is cut backwards. Im sure it went though the manufacturing punch machine backwards. I might have gotten a bad one, but again I emailed Expansys explaining the problem, again NO REPLY as usual. I have never once had an email to expansys replied to. I have been polite in all of them asking for an answer. Ask anyone else who has emailed them the same, they do not reply. Piss poor service if you ask me.

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3134553#post3134553
for my eXpansys horror story. Unfortunately I didn't catch this thread until it was too late.

i got mine! - metallic grey

will post some thoughts once i get to spend a good amount of time with it
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did you get it at a Best Buy in NYC? If so, which one?!?

Very nice ,that is a plastic shell still right?

yes at the Best Buy in NoHo. seems to be the only Best Buy around here that has the grey one right now. the back is indeed plastic, but it is a nice quality.. it almost does have a metallic feel to it with the texture. the rim around it is metal. build quality and display are excellent.. no creaks or looseness at all.. backlight is very even.. no leaks at all. blacks on the screen are nice and deep. and the screen doesn't seem to attract fingerprints much.
let me know if you guys have any more questions

ah you got the 16gb I believe...I am looking for the 32. Slim pickins for that model in one of the biggest markets on the official launch day. cant make this stuff up.

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ah you got the 16gb I believe...I am looking for the 32. Slim pickins for that model in one of the biggest markets on the official launch day. cant make this stuff up.
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You haven't been paying attention to Apple over the past few years then. It's all about hype. I'm 100% convinced, shortages and delays are on purpose.

Look for lag on websites and using the keyboard on other sites/apps
Any loose panel near edges (Glass seperation) ?
Did you get the usb adaptor yet ?
Battery life ?
Any heat issues with back of tablet ?
WiFi issues if any ?
Connecting to computer issues ?

Best Buy at Columbus Circle (Broadway & 62nd) have the grey metallic back one, though I didn't check if they had 32gb too.
The grey metallic is absolutely sleek. I like the look and feel of it much better than the white (which I purchased last week and exchanged to grey today).
One small feature not oft mentioned in the grey is that the metal rim on the grey model is matte grey, not the shiny silver of the white. It's a small difference, but makes for a much more subdued and professional look (read: not ipad-ish).
The textured back (though plastic) also makes it feel better when you hold it in your hand, since you have the ever slight friction from the brushed pattern. Also, of course, grey less flashy and more serious (reminded me of other Android tablets like Xoom, Flyer, but of course, way way lighter!)
Form factor-wise, I don't think you can go wrong with the grey GT 10.1!

you think the grey looks better than the white after having both. i got the white on the 8th and really like it, but i'm returning it, and will be getting the grey from costco(only color they have). It looked sort of plain in the pictures and i tend to like a little more flash in things, hope its as nice as you say.

I got the grey version as well. The store gave me a white one by mistake. Good thing I checked it before I left.
The back is textured so it doesn't slip and slide around in my lap like the Acer did.
I also do not hear any squeaks while holding it.

Just called my local BB and they do have them in the store, but will not be displaying them until Sunday. Kind of a weird delay considering that it is supposed to be a hot new release.

Got the 16 grey one today. It's nice. My 6 year old want let me touch it. He's gaming.
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Look for lag on websites and using the keyboard on other sites/apps
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i haven't experienced lag yet, and i've been browsing Engadget, XDA, New York Times, Facebook, and various music blogs. i did see a bit of slow down when i was on the Netflix site, scrolling down through my queue.. but that's only because i have about 300 movies on there.
i did notice when i was on the Market.. when i was trying to click on the Search, the keyboard took a bit to pop up. maybe about a 3 sec delay.
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Any loose panel near edges (Glass seperation) ?
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there's no glass separation or any looseness or creaks. my coworker has his Transformer here, and he's gonna return it after trying out my GTab, as his has creaking on the right side. he also noticed that scrolling through YouTube's home page was a bit faster and smoother on the GTab. everyone here at work is impressed with the build quality.. even iPad owners.
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Did you get the usb adaptor yet ?
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i haven't gotten the USB adapter yet, as the two Best Buys i went to didn't have them in stock yet. i also wanted to get the official Samsung portfolio case, but no one has them yet as well. i'll update once i get them.
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Battery life ?
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battery life - this i'll chime in once i have had it for at least two days or so to give a more accurate info.
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Any heat issues with back of tablet ?
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the tablet has been cool. i've been playing some HD videos, and it has stayed that way so far.
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WiFi issues if any ?
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none. connection has been steady
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Connecting to computer issues ?
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i haven't connected yet (still at work). i'll update once i get to use it at home later

How are you finding the lack of an microsd slot?

Beards said:
How are you finding the lack of an microsd slot?
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i originally wanted the 32GB, but they are nowhere to be found in the NYC area, so i just got the 16GB. having had a netbook previously, i only used up about 8GBs on that, since my music collection is about 24,000 songs - i have them on my external. so i really only store documents and photos in the internal storage. i haven't installed that many apps yet, but those shouldn't take up much space also. i just started using Amazon Cloud, so i will be testing that out to see how i'll go by day to day with it. i'm also looking into wireless externals as i've been meaning to get a 2nd backup for my music. Seagate has a very nice one. i figure, i could use that to connect to my GTab as well without the hassle of dongles.

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Look for lag on websites and using the keyboard on other sites/apps
Any loose panel near edges (Glass seperation) ?
Did you get the usb adaptor yet ?
Battery life ?
Any heat issues with back of tablet ?
WiFi issues if any ?
Connecting to computer issues ?
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Got a 16 GB white one today morning from BB.
Browser laggy on FB and other javascript heavy websites.
No
No
Not bad. Need to spend some more time to estimate battery life.
No
No issues. Wifi connectivity is actually very good for me.
No issues.

Got mine too.
Kind of fat, heavy, dull screen,...
...oh wait, that was my iPad
This thing rocks!

Got my Metallic Grey 16GB Tab. Loving it! My bestbuy had about 20-30. All models. Bestbuy wasn't displaying them though. Claimed they didn't know where to place them, even though they had a tablet section with just the XOOM and Iconia.
Anyway, I had a XOOM then an iPad 2, then an iconia, then an iPad 2, and now a Tab 10.1. And I think it's a keeper!

Thanks radiohead14 for the answers given. Return as soon as you can to post more information

more thoughts - the speakers are surprisingly pretty good for their size. and I recommend everyone to get Thumb Keyboard. IMO.. much better and convenient than stock. it splits the keyboard so you could easily type with your thumbs. I also prefer Dolphin HD browser - seems to be more stable than stock.

Anyone used NILLKIN tree-texture leather flip case?

http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=13&id=2981&page=1
It's exactly the kind of case I like. I'm not afraid of dropping my Nexus 4. I've never done that with a previous phone and I don't see why it would happen with this one. Sure it slides more easily of the couch, but I can live with that. I do want something to prevent the glass from scratching. I could use a screen protector but I don't like the feel and the look. A flip case like this prevents the glass from getting scratched, and it looks really stylish IMO.
Has anyone bought this case? I've found a thread about this case but no one has actually used it. I don't even know if you can buy it anywhere besides on ebay. I would love to hear someone's opinion about this case, or even better; to see some actual pictures.

I am also interested in this style case for the reasons you mention. The issue I have is about where the flap goes while using the phone. Seems like it would get in the way. And camera use would mean the flap just kind of dangles and becomes a nuisance. These do look fantastic however.
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Wow those look nice! I think I've finally decided on the case I want to buy. Yeah I think you're right, looks like can only buy on ebay and ships from china. If anyone buys one let us know from which seller.

Just thought of something... Is it easy enough to get in and out of the case that you just remove when the case gets in the way?
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Hey I've bought this and it arrived this week from this buyer: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/nillkin_case?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Delivery was pretty quick considering that it came from Hong Kong.
My phone hasn't actually arrived yet but it looks like it will protect it quite well. When it is closed the sides are completely covered (minus a hole for the button on the right side) and the top and bottom are also open. The inside material of the flap is like felt and is quite nice, whereas the inside of the casing is plastic.
I don't think the flap will interfere with usage since it feels quite natural in the hand when open, but you can't flip it all the way back without stressing the material.
If you guys want to know anything else let me know and I'll try and help ^^

Looking forward to your thoughts once phone arrives. When do you think you will get phone?
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TsunKit said:
Hey I've bought this and it arrived this week from this buyer: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/nillkin_case?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Delivery was pretty quick considering that it came from Hong Kong.
My phone hasn't actually arrived yet but it looks like it will protect it quite well. When it is closed the sides are completely covered (minus a hole for the button on the right side) and the top and bottom are also open. The inside material of the flap is like felt and is quite nice, whereas the inside of the casing is plastic.
I don't think the flap will interfere with usage since it feels quite natural in the hand when open, but you can't flip it all the way back without stressing the material.
If you guys want to know anything else let me know and I'll try and help ^^
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You CAN'T flip it all the way back? That's pretty weird. I believe all flip cases are supposed to flip all the way back without stressing the material. It even says so on the website:
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I've toyed around with a Galaxy SII that has a flip cover, and the flap does get in the way a little. You can flip it around the back, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having rounded corners and stuff. The whole design for ultimate handling, something the nexus line has always been good at, is kind of ruined with a case like this. But I guess that goes for all cases.
I don't take a lot of pictures, and that one time I do, I'm sure I can just let it hang. Anyway, maybe I won't always use this case, but sometimes it can be useful. Rather this than a TPU case or a hardcase. I've yet to find one that doesn't make the phone look bulky and/or cheap. And there are other leather flip cases, but none so stylish and thin as this one.
Here you can order one that ships for free to almost anywhere in the world. Don't know about the shipping time though. The price is $16.
http://dx-box.com/nillkin-fashion-real-leather-skin-for-lg-nexus-4-e960-case.html

I have one shipping to me as well. Bought it on 12/4 haven't gotten it yet but should be any day now. I think my diztronic hard ultra thin case will be delivered before that lol. I'll report back and put my lil take on it if no one has done so yet.
I may even sell it! I have too many cases coming in lol

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You CAN'T flip it all the way back? That's pretty weird. I believe all flip cases are supposed to flip all the way back without stressing the material. It even says so on the website
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Yeah it can flip back like that but I feel that if it is flipped like that for a while it will crease the material etc.
Just me being fussy

This flip case arrived for me today. The build is simply up there it feels and looks very nice. The holes are cut out perfectly and make accessing the power button and volume buttons very seamless. However like all flip cases taking photos feels a bit weird. But with that added protection for the screen I don't mind much. The case is also very minimal it doesn't add much thickness to the phone.
So far the only problem I see is that gripping the phone can be somewhat annoying especially since you have to put a little bit of extra pressure to fold the cover completely back. Even when you fold it back the little extra bit that sticks out to the right makes holding the phone in vertical orientation a pain in the ***. Also some apps in landscape mode refuse to flip around like bad piggies so having to hold the phone with the cover below is extremely annoying.
I will upload photos for you guys soon.
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glad i saw this. just the type of case i was looking for. went ahead and placed an order with nillkin_case on ebay.

You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970

I ordered this in grey on the 30th and was told it shipped the next day. Still waiting :crying:. I hope it's delivered this week.

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You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970
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Thanks! I already placed mine a while ago (12/4). But in grey.
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I ordered this in grey on the 30th and was told it shipped the next day. Still waiting :crying:. I hope it's delivered this week.
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I hear ya! I ordered one on 12/4 and according to tracking the case is stateside, in Chicago. However, I am in TX LOL. So another weekend

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You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970
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Ordered one this morning as well. Have not received a shopping notification yet from my ups.
Update I did receive my shipping information tonight. No estimated arrival yet.
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You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
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Damn, sold out from this guy.
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Found this one on Ebay, item# 190763637047, looks to ship from US.

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Damn, sold out from this guy.
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Found this one on Ebay, item# 190763637047, looks to ship from US.
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He is not sold out. Looks like he has only sold 4 cases. I was number 1! If only this was kickball
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370717427970?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Found this one on Ebay, item# 190763637047, looks to ship from US.
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I really hate how lately there's been a lot of China sellers that check all the right boxes to show up under U.S. sellers only, when in reality they ship from China. Even though this seller claims to be from within the U.S., he actually mentions that the item ships from outside the U.S., so my guess is it's still drop shipped from China. I've had this happen to me quite a few times, place an order with a supposed U.S. seller, only for it to take 2 weeks and arrive in a totally foreign airmailed envelope. Another hint of this is when some of the seller's prices in their store appear to be converted to U.S. dollars, showing up in italics.

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He is not sold out. Looks like he has only sold 4 cases. I was number 1! If only this was kickball
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370717427970?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Just to confirm, this seller did ship from Phoenix, AZ. He used DHL and shipped extremely quick (same day I ordered).
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Please post pictures, or it didn't happen.

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?

I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.

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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.

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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.

thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is

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When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.

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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?

magnet

I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.

maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation

Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!

I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.

I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.

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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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bbfoto said:
Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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Moto X 2014 Indian Users

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Any body knows when it is releasing in India?
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Moto said end of the month.
I'm not sure we'll get the 32gb model. I hope we do. 16gb just isnt enough.
That and the battery are my only concerns.

rkial said:
Moto said end of the month.
I'm not sure we'll get the 32gb model. I hope we do. 16gb just isnt enough.
That and the battery are my only concerns.
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Lack of stereo speakers is one of my major concern apart from the two issues mentioned by your. There is confusion over stereo speakers. Specs sheets posted on various website say its got stereo whereas none of the review I came across so far confirms that its got stereo. Thats big let for me.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Lack of stereo speakers is one of my major concern apart from the two issues mentioned by your. There is confusion over stereo speakers. Specs sheets posted on various website say its got stereo whereas none of the review I came across so far confirms that its got stereo. Thats big let for me.
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It has two front facing speakers. The bottom one is the main speaker, its from the same company whose speakers are in the HTC one m8 but its a newer model and has twice the power supply and output volume with great clarity. The upper one is an earpiece but according to some sites it also is an speaker, which i highly doubt cause anandtech went pretty into details about the speakers and they mentioned only one loud speaker and that's the bottom one.
Most of this data is from various reviews and preview articles i have read from sites like the verge, phonearena, anandtech (Most of the data is from here and I 99% trust their accuracy).

The price should be listed soon I suppose,
http://www.flipkart.com/moto-x-2nd-...b_11&ref=33496eda-995f-450f-b469-f99f2119f82f

Looks like it'll be just the 16gb variant
Price should be 30-32k. It's usually exactly the same as the US price.

Price announced.
32k for the Black. 34k for Bamboo and Leather options.
16gb model only.
Was waiting for this. but I'll pass on it.

Hey guys,
I'm also thinking to buy it, but as I'm from India, I seen very less moto device their and also service center problem,
Currently I'm using moto g for time pass especially for waiting for next nexus,
Also thinking to buy moto x+1,
So my main question are,
is India motorola known as good company? Is it have resale value?
Is moto x have good touch screen? I mean finger to finger response performance of touch screen like nexus 5 or iPhone?
Thanks and waiting for answer
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So I got mine today.
Must admit, I did not have high expectations of the device, but so far, I am as impressed as I was with last years Moto X if not more. Fantastic feel in hand. Light.
Had little talk with Motorola India. There was confusion about the model number. On their site till yesterday, they were showing the LTE bands of 2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26, 41. Indian model is also named as XT1092 so the these bands were correct according to spec sheet. But that meant it did not have support for 1800Mhz LTE Band.
And Motorola is advertising it as 4G device on Flipkart.
After contacting them on twitter, they changed the bands on Motorola India to 1, 3, 7, 8, 20 which is XT1093/1094. But Indian version is indeed labelled XT1092. But FCC ID matches that of XT1093/94 which supports LTE bands 1, 3, 7, 8, 20.
So this phone will not work on current Airtel LTE network in 4 cities which work on 2300Mhz TDD LTE band. But will work on LTE networks which are launching on 1800Mhz band soon. Just FYI.

Funkym0nkey said:
So I got mine today.
Must admit, I did not have high expectations of the device, but so far, I am as impressed as I was with last years Moto X if not more. Fantastic feel in hand. Light.
Had little talk with Motorola India. There was confusion about the model number. On their site till yesterday, they were showing the LTE bands of 2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26, 41. Indian model is also named as XT1092 so the these bands were correct according to spec sheet. But that meant it did not have support for 1800Mhz LTE Band.
And Motorola is advertising it as 4G device on Flipkart.
After contacting them on twitter, they changed the bands on Motorola India to 1, 3, 7, 8, 20 which is XT1093/1094. But Indian version is indeed labelled XT1092. But FCC ID matches that of XT1093/94 which supports LTE bands 1, 3, 7, 8, 20.
So this phone will not work on current Airtel LTE network in 4 cities which work on 2300Mhz TDD LTE band. But will work on LTE networks which are launching on 1800Mhz band soon. Just FYI.
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Congrats bro, happy to see you got new phone,
I have one question, I asked in previous post but can you tell me how is the touch response , had you used nexus 5 or s5, how can you differentiate in performance and screen response wise?
Thanks in advance, will wait for your reply..
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Got mine today and made this small unboxing and first impressions.

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So I got mine today.
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Congratulations
One question, which back cover did you buy ? If its black plastic then I want to know what kind of plastic is there at the back? Is it typical hard plastic or rubberized., soft touch plastic ?
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Got mine today and made this small unboxing and first impressions.
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Which unboxing ? I don't find any link or so in your post

I was really hoping to buy this. No 32gb and price is a let down. What alternative we have for 32gbs and close to this price point

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Congratulations
One question, which back cover did you buy ? If its black plastic then I want to know what kind of plastic is there at the back? Is it typical hard plastic or rubberized., soft touch plastic ?
Which unboxing ? I don't find any link or so in your post
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lol forgot to post here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4dRN4Cr4io

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Congratulations
One question, which back cover did you buy ? If its black plastic then I want to know what kind of plastic is there at the back? Is it typical hard plastic or rubberized., soft touch plastic ?
Which unboxing ? I don't find any link or so in your post
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I went for normal black back version. I did not want white as the sensors are visible on the white front which makes it look little ugly. And did not opt for leather due to the fact that it makes phone little thicker and weather will wear out over time. Everyone who was at the launch events suggested that leather back models look beat and warn out.
If there was an option for black front and walnut back, I would have gone for that. But with the options available now, black is best looking IMHO.
Mandeep148 said:
Congrats bro, happy to see you got new phone,
I have one question, I asked in previous post but can you tell me how is the touch response , had you used nexus 5 or s5, how can you differentiate in performance and screen response wise?
Thanks in advance, will wait for your reply..
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I have Nexus 5, HTC One M8 in addition to older Moto X and this new Moto X. The touch response is as flawless as to be expected. After first boot and setup, just restart device once and it is all buttery smooth. I actually prefer using this screen over Nexus 5 due to the chamfered edge. Fingers glide very nicely thanks to that.
Another note, if you are thinking of buying the scratch guard, there is only 1 in stock on ebay which is scratch guard branded one. I got this, and it has a problem which is common to phones with chamfered edge screens. The company cut the scratch guard to exact size of display. So the edges of the scratch guard do not stick to the screen thanks to the slight curve on the glass. So keep this in mind. I think it will take some time before screen protector manufacturers come out with properly fitting screen protector for Moto X.

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I went for normal black back version. I did not want white as the sensors are visible on the white front which makes it look little ugly. And did not opt for leather due to the fact that it makes phone little thicker and weather will wear out over time. Everyone who was at the launch events suggested that leather back models look beat and warn out.
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I want to hear more onto the plastic back. What kind of material is it? Is it hard or soft touch plastic? Any kind of fine texture on the back plastic or just ordinary feel? Please post some closeup photos.
karanits said:
I was really hoping to buy this. No 32gb and price is a let down. What alternative we have for 32gbs and close to this price point
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Do you really belive there must be some alternative of MotoX ??
No man, unfortunately here is no alternative of it yet. Yeah, there are other phones but those are ordinary in front of Moto X.

And this is how the normal black looks.
Back is plastic, but slightly rubbery, grippy feeling. Nice grip. And even though people don't like the look of new dimple in pic, it actually helps. Nice and firm finger grip there.
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And this is how the normal black looks.
Back is plastic, but slightly rubbery, grippy feeling. Nice grip. And even though people don't like the look of new dimple in pic, it actually helps. Nice and firm finger grip there.
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hey bro, i have important question, when i saw it on videos i thought, the screen gorilla glass is rounded and curved,like iphone 6, but when i saw your high resolution pic, i noticed there is 2 layer, one is screen gorilla glass as little bit curved joined with below plastic line,
so my main question is, is that plastic or another glass? that can get off finish very fast. ?
i also request you to,show me one more high resolution pic, from Bezel
thanks in advance bro and congrats for new phone...

Mandeep148 said:
hey bro, i have important question, when i saw it on videos i thought, the screen gorilla glass is rounded and curved,like iphone 6, but when i saw your high resolution pic, i noticed there is 2 layer, one is screen gorilla glass as little bit curved joined with below plastic line,
so my main question is, is that plastic or another glass? that can get off finish very fast. ?
i also request you to,show me one more high resolution pic, from Bezel
thanks in advance bro and congrats for new phone...
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Will take more pictures tomorrow. Camera battery is down and charging at the moment after whole day of shooting for my work today.
But yes, as you can see there is slight step at the edge of the screen. It actually feels nice It looks like Motorola has done this to protect the glass in case phone hits the floor at the edges which usually results in screen chipping or shattering at that corner on curved edge screens like this Moto X.
Apple went right to the edge, Moto X stops less than half a millimetre shy of the edge and then there is this step which you can see in the picture above resulting in rather unique look. I am surprised most reviews did not stress on this point.

does moto x 2014 support 4g in india and also how is the camera ?