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Screwed by Expansys again

I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.

yzf750 said:
I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.
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I know the trouble about Expansys. I ordered a QTEK 8500 aka Cingular 3125 from them. When I received the product the outside screen did not work. I assumed it was a bad ROM flash / etc. I flashed another ROM on it and it still had the problem. When I called Expansys about the defect they told me is B Stock product and that I couldn't return. I asked them how they would sell a product that wasn't fully fucntioning. The only response I got back was that it was working when they shipped it out.
I will never deal with them again.

thanks for the heads up, though I've been staying away from expansys since their prices are never realistic anyways

UPDATE:
I received my touch pro screen protector today from expansys. Totally disapointed. The cost was 10 bucks. I consider it 10 bucks flushed down the toilet.
The screen protector is a 2 piece one. First of all mine is stamped backwards. Go figure, the speaker hole was cut backwards so it is off center of the light sensor led and ear hole itself. It covers the sensor and has a big space on the right of the earhole that shows the phone underneath.
Second, the bottom piece is larger then the phone pad widthwise (maybe a millimeter) so it lifts the corners up each time you use a pad button since it hits the case on both sides. It looks terrible after just a few uses.
I do not think I would pay more then 50 cents for something like this. I guess I will have to order from a reputable screen protector manufacture now and toss this one in the garbage where it belongs.

ehh i dunno about the screen protector stuff but taht 'coupon' that they didnt apply...was applied (or at least for me it was). It doesnt show up on the confirmation email but check your CC. They charged me 15 bucks less than the confirmation email. If things arent right you can call/email them about it. generally they're nice about it.
(again this is only from my personal experience that i had with them ONCE...not speaking for everyone)

I had emailed them about the problem with the screen protector. No reply as usual. I did get the discount finally also so that is squared away at least. I just want people to know that this is a cheaply made protector and definetly not worth 10 bucks for only one that you get. For the quality of it you should get a 10 pack at that price. Its sold as an Expansys brand screen protector. However it comes wrapped in another companys packaging with chinese lettering on it. It is a BHB screen protector. Why Expansys lists it as their brand I do not know. Google search on BHB finds them as low as 1.99
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center. You end up with bubbles around it when you use the scroll feature on with that button. It now sits in my trash can.
On the other hand if this item had been worth the money ,I would of gladly posted that also to be fair. I have found this forum to be a great place to get opinions of products to both buy and stay away from.
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I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.

bfspider said:
I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.
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Just ordered one ..thanks

Not sure about the screen protector, the one I ordered was HTC's ($10.99). I just have to deal with the cut-out for the front cam. Most of the other time I order from Clarivue.

Wow, that's pretty ****ty. I've never dealt with expansys, but I really never imagined they would be that bad. Looks like a person would be better off to:
1)search ebay
2)sort by: Price+shipping: lowest first
3)close your eyes
4)hold the down key
5)click the mouse
6)buy it
....but seriously, I just can't believe they do business like that.

yzf750 said:
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center.
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You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.

Thank you for the info on this one. Seeing as thought how many people have had problems with them I definitely wont even try them.

NuShrike said:
You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.
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The protector has stickers on it showing which side goes up, plus its sticky on one side only. It is cut backwards. Im sure it went though the manufacturing punch machine backwards. I might have gotten a bad one, but again I emailed Expansys explaining the problem, again NO REPLY as usual. I have never once had an email to expansys replied to. I have been polite in all of them asking for an answer. Ask anyone else who has emailed them the same, they do not reply. Piss poor service if you ask me.

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3134553#post3134553
for my eXpansys horror story. Unfortunately I didn't catch this thread until it was too late.

Carbon Fiber Skins for your Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant - Canceled - See OP!

Dear Carbon Fiber Skins Vibrant Customers,
I have some bad news for you tonight. I've stayed up quite late several nights over the past week, doing and redoing the vibrant battery covers. While the 3M 94 di-noc primer does indeed help, it still doesn't seem to be strong enough to keep the vinyl stuck to the harsh corners of the battery cover. I've tried several different ways of applying the material; sometimes its come out well and the corners didn't ripple (yet), and other times they've rippled within 2 days. It doesn't seem to be heat related, but more-or-less time related. Personally, I'm tired of trying and don't really want to sink anymore time than I already have. You should have all gotten EVOs!
I will send the 4 that I currently have done back to you the way they are, however, I can't guarantee that the corners will stay down. I don't feel as if this is a quality or lasting product (like my evo covers), therefore, I'll send the covers back to you and issue a full-refund, unless you specify otherwise.
My Evo's skin is still doing perfectly fine 3.5 months later; I've picked at the edges to see if they were beginning to come up, but no sign of that thus-far. The exact same story goes with all of my local friend's evo battery covers that I've done for them. The only probable reason I can think of as to why the corners ripple up on the vibrant battery covers, is because they're to small and harsh to allow enough bonding between the vinyl and cover.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask in this thread and I'll do my best to reply. I'm very busy this week and will be traveling for business over the weekend. I'll mail the covers back tomorrow; please email me when you receive them and I'll issue your refund via paypal.
Regards,
-Sterling

Is there any practical use to this?

Op,
We do have an accessory section, best to move this thread there.
Great product. Expensive for what it is. Can get the material from a wrap shop for under $1, or free if they have some scraps. A shop would probably install for $5.
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SykesAT said:
Op,
We do have an accessory section, best to move this thread there.
Great product. Expensive for what it is. Can get the material from a wrap shop for under $1, or free if they have some scraps. A shop would probably install for $5.
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Wrap shop?

Double post.

Not everyone has the time nor the skill to do this. You are paying for someone to go buy & stock the material, custom cut the pattern, then meticulously install it to the cover. You are paying for a handcrafted service, and I think $25 is a fair price.
If you can find a shop that can do this for less, let us know. Otherwise thanks for stopping by.
SykesAT said:
Op,
We do have an accessory section, best to move this thread there.
Great product. Expensive for what it is. Can get the material from a wrap shop for under $1, or free if they have some scraps. A shop would probably install for $5.
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if you're using real carbon fiber, that isn't a bad price but if it is real, CF blocks radio signal
i work with CF - CF will conduct electricity, and block radio signal - has some other interesting properties in addition to it's strength, but just so folks are aware
if you're curious of the effect, cover the back of your phone with aluminum foil to see the effect - and watch the radio signal strength drop, and also see what happens to the GPS signals as well
if it's faux CF, just ignore the above

vuvsion said:
Not everyone has the time nor the skill to do this. You are paying for someone to go buy & stock the material, custom cut the pattern, then meticulously install it to the cover. You are paying for a handcrafted service, and I think $25 is a fair price.
If you can find a shop that can do this for less, let us know. Otherwise thanks for stopping by.
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The material is 3m Di-NOC, a vinyl wrap, it's not real cf. It's available at most custom car mod, vinyl wrap shops. It takes under 5 minutes to apply.
If you think it's a fair price buy it. Just know the materials cost less than $1, time required is sub 5mins and with some research you can source materials and labor locally.
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OP, can you provide more pictures of the corners including close-ups?
I'm not 100% satisfied on my DIY and am wondering if I send you my current battery cover with my own current 3M Di-NOC on it you can take it off at no extra charge.

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SykesAT said:
Op,
We do have an accessory section, best to move this thread there.
Great product. Expensive for what it is. Can get the material from a wrap shop for under $1, or free if they have some scraps. A shop would probably install for $5.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
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Wow. You vibrant users got some *****y ones over here in this forum. Out almost 25 pages on the evo thread - nothing like this has been posted.
If you think you can get this done for $5 bucks, go do it, take pics and post it. I highly doubt anyone, anywhere is going to wrap the battery cover, and hand cut it out to perfection for you.
You're right, the vinyl doesn't cost a whole lot (when you buy it in larger sheets), but besides there, there is a new xacto blade, the return shipping, gas to the post office to ship it back + time, and about an hour to apply it to the cover. If you add that all up, it's less than mem-wage. But hey, since I'm making such great money off this, you can take it over and do it.
vuvsion said:
Not everyone has the time nor the skill to do this. You are paying for someone to go buy & stock the material, custom cut the pattern, then meticulously install it to the cover. You are paying for a handcrafted service, and I think $25 is a fair price.
If you can find a shop that can do this for less, let us know. Otherwise thanks for stopping by.
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Thanks. At least you understand the costs related with business. I'm really doing this more for the community, because I'm definitely making less than mem wage doing this.
SykesAT said:
The material is 3m Di-NOC, a vinyl wrap, it's not real cf. It's available at most custom car mod, vinyl wrap shops. It takes under 5 minutes to apply.
If you think it's a fair price buy it. Just know the materials cost less than $1, time required is sub 5mins and with some research you can source materials and labor locally.
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Lets see a video of you doing it in 5. Get to it.
jkcheng122 said:
OP, can you provide more pictures of the corners including close-ups?
I'm not 100% satisfied on my DIY and am wondering if I send you my current battery cover with my own current 3M Di-NOC on it you can take it off at no extra charge.
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Yes, I'll post more corner-focused pics later today. The botom two corners are completely smooth - the upper two corners only have one very small ripple in it, which I've smoothed out. The upper corners are about twice as curved as the bottom.
I can remove it. It's not hard. You can even do it if you'd like. Just heat it up with the hair dryer and peel off.
It's now $20. Which I think is a pretty fair price for something that's hand made.

Thanks for sharing your work OP, it looks great good job.
I think it's a good price, i might go for it.

Hrshycro said:
Wow. You vibrant users got some *****y ones over here in this forum. Out almost 25 pages on the evo thread - nothing like this has been posted.
If you think you can get this done for $5 bucks, go do it, take pics and post it. I highly doubt anyone, anywhere is going to wrap the battery cover, and hand cut it out to perfection for you.
You're right, the vinyl doesn't cost a whole lot (when you buy it in larger sheets), but besides there, there is a new xacto blade, the return shipping, gas to the post office to ship it back + time, and about an hour to apply it to the cover. If you add that all up, it's less than mem-wage. But hey, since I'm making such great money off this, you can take it over and do it.
It's now $20. Which I think is a pretty fair price for something that's hand made.
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First things first, as I said in my first post, "great product." Your workmanship neat and I'm sure there is demand for it. I just commented on the price.
I don't need to post a vid of it being done in 5mins, a simple search on you tube returns many application examples. As for your suggestions that I "take it over," even with the margins I think you have, it's worth my time. Just an observation, if it was not worth your time you would not be self promoting your product nor would you have created a website for the same.
I did not want to start an argument, nor insult your skill level or integrity. I think its honorable that you reduced your price and I hope you do well with it.

Hrshycro Good job, do you offer any more colors or styles? Also this is a Forum so you will have lots of people who will tell you how you can do it for better, just best keep on scrollin while they are trollin.

Hrshycro said:
Yes, I'll post more corner-focused pics later today. The bottom two corners are completely smooth - the upper two corners only have one very small ripple in it, which I've smoothed out. The upper corners are about twice as curved as the bottom.
I can remove it. It's not hard. You can even do it if you'd like. Just heat it up with the hair dryer and peel off.
It's now $20. Which I think is a pretty fair price for something that's hand made.
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Besides the hating stuff from Sykes, this thread does belong in the Accessories section and I believe you'll get more exposure there too as there are ppl aplenty there looking for cases and such, though this one in particular does not offer any protection it also does not add bulk.
Can you PM me the address to send the battery cover to?

SykesAT said:
First things first, as I said in my first post, "great product." Your workmanship neat and I'm sure there is demand for it. I just commented on the price.
I don't need to post a vid of it being done in 5mins, a simple search on you tube returns many application examples. As for your suggestions that I "take it over," even with the margins I think you have, it's worth my time. Just an observation, if it was not worth your time you would not be self promoting your product nor would you have created a website for the same.
I did not want to start an argument, nor insult your skill level or integrity. I think its honorable that you reduced your price and I hope you do well with it.
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Thanks. I did see that you posted it from your phone, which sometimes leads to more cuticle speaking. While there are lots of videos on youtube of stuff being covered in 5 minuets, not very many of them are real-time. Most are time lapsed or cut together. Also, it's usually bigger items, like cars, tables, ect., which require a lot less time to perfect because they have bigger edges and sharper corners. At least from the ones I've seen. It actually takes me about an hour to do one (30ish for an evo because they don't have any corners at all). This is by no way a money making job for me. I do other work for real money. It's more of a hobby: if people want to pay me todo it, great, if not, I have a DIY for them.

StefanB86 said:
Thanks for sharing your work OP, it looks great good job.
I think it's a good price, i might go for it.
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Thanks. Check out the site. (I haven't had time to add a page for the vibrant) If you're interested in doing it, great. Use the paypal link on the site and I'll send you my address. I'm going to post some more photos today, so you might want to hang out for those.
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Hrshycro Good job, do you offer any more colors or styles? Also this is a Forum so you will have lots of people who will tell you how you can do it for better, just best keep on scrollin while they are trollin.
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I only have black, however, since I just used up my first order of vinyl, I'm going to see if their is any interest in the other colors and maybe ordering some in a different color this time. See pic below.
jkcheng122 said:
Besides the hating stuff from Sykes, this thread does belong in the Accessories section and I believe you'll get more exposure there too as there are ppl aplenty there looking for cases and such, though this one in particular does not offer any protection it also does not add bulk.
Can you PM me the address to send the battery cover to?
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Yeah, right it does. I had a long day yesterday and forgot about posting it in there. It does add some protection from scratches when dropped, and feel/grip (feels like carbon fiber). While it's no where close to being an invishield, it's going to have some of the same benefits, and look cool, too.
Just use the paypal link on carbonfiberskins.tk. I'll send you my address thereafter.
Is anybody interested in another color? If so, let me know.
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Hrshycro said:
Thanks. Check out the site. (I haven't had time to add a page for the vibrant) If you're interested in doing it, great. Use the paypal link on the site and I'll send you my address. I'm going to post some more photos today, so you might want to hang out for those.
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I'll wait for some more pictures then and i will let know. Thanks
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Is anybody interested in another color? If so, let me know.
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Black and white my top favs.

StefanB86 said:
I'll wait for some more pictures then and i will let know. Thanks
I'll get them up this evening. I have a conference call right now...for my other job.
Black and white my top favs.
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Great! I'll probably end up ordering white and more black.
I can't believe nobody wants some brown-zune lovin' color on their phone

Hrshycro's thread for the EVO looked amazing so I think I was the first one to get at him to do this on my spare back cover.
btw, I'm not good at DIY wrapping, so I definitely didn't mind the cost to have him provide his service and ship finished product back out to me for one flat rate. I guess for me $20/30 for a phone accessory is normal and isn't a big dent to my wallet. For a one of a kind look like this I'll definitely buy this instead of a generic incase/casemate.
Thanks for the great job though Hrshycro. Waiting to recieve it and take actual pics of it on the Vibrant!

NEW 360° Rotating case for Acer Iconia Tab A500

Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446

Looks fairly good overall....
...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.

Achristocat said:
...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
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I think what you are seeing as "elastic bands" are the grooves in the case for the edge of the tablet to set in.
I will be very eager to hear from someone who gets this case to find out:
1. How it"snaps shut"?
2. If the flap opens all the way to the back?
3. How well the tablet stays in the case?

I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!

Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great

Hymizzle said:
I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
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Looking forward to the pictures.

source for real store
choccy74 said:
Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
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I am purchasing this within next week. Seller gave me the link for his store.
http://www.fintie.com/
IMHO, it looks like one of the best cases out there.

Per the description from the store link above,
5.Elastic band holds iPad 2 closed securely while on the go
maybe it does use elastic bands, but since it also says "iPad 2" I'll be curious to see how it actually works.

Elastic closure...
Having gone to where the original object was posted and downloaded the picture, I saw a swelling on the "upper corner" of the cover that could really only be a couple of things...
Given the lack of anything else that might be considered a candidate for some sort of closure, I figured it to be elastic...
Looking forward to seeing the confirmation in other people's pictures...I still may get it and modify it to my liking. Seems like the closest yet. I do wish it had some other type of closure...
P.S. I love the simplicity of the TPU "snapon" case I have now - seems to offer more corner / edge protection should I mishandle it.
I may buy another TPU case and add / modify it with portions of this case. now THAT would be cool...

I'm thinking that "snap shut" could means like one of those jean button...
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( then dock it through a circle ring ( case snap on to base ) to become desktop with angles and 360 rotation positions )
Top half of the circle above Acer logo is part of tablet case while the bottom half is use as the backstand. ( it is bendable at that part/or separate.... see the joint lines in pic #1 )
the Jeans snap shut button could either be on the top half or the lower half circle... served the same purpose.
Together, they combined to becomes a portfolio case
point #4 at the retail site:
http://www.fintie.com/Tablet PC Accessoriesessories/Acer?product_id=1190
4.Snap-n-Roll Design, Detachable case easily snaps into mount.
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I preferred that it is bendable instead of separate and snap on button on the top half of the ring.
top candidate for me and also because cannot get the Blurex case from Amazon to Canada.
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UnicornKaz said:
Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
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Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.

pov1 said:
Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
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What's so strange about describing a gadget or item that is capable of "360° Rotation" ???
besides... that's what the ad said !!
maybe some people just run out of things to complain about, so they have to pick on a word ??

I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.

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I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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Same here, but I have the blurex slim case now and love it, and but this case looks nice
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I received mine today, which I ordered last week from fintie.com. It looks exactly like the pictures on ebay or the fintie.com so I am not going to post any pictures. I also have a blurex slim case (same thing with roocase slim) and quality wise it is not as good as blurex, and it has one less indentation thingies in the case that serve as a stopper for different angels, but it stays fine even if you don put the table directly into those indentations.
Build quality is ok, not great but ok. Unfortunately just like in the pictures it has an elastic strap as a closure instead of a magnetic flap or a hard leather part like in blurex case. I am not sure if it wears out or becomes lose quickly, only the time will tell.
Swivel mechanism works fine, and it is a lot easier to remove the tablet from the case, if you are doing that constantly. The part that your tablet sits in is plastic, the rest is fake leather. It is slightly thinner than the blurex slim case, mainly due to less padding on the flap.
Removing the plastic case from the swivel mechanism and flap is NOT easy at all, and would probably break the notches on the swivel eventually.
Both sides are open like the blurex case, so this is not designed to protect your tablet if you drop it sideways, but more for to protect it from daily wear and tear and carrying in a bag, etc.
All in all I am happy with it and would buy it again, since I really wanted something that swivels for reading comics in portrait mode.

Thanks man, this seems like a nice case then. I will order mine within this week, although it will probably reach my hands one month after I do the purchase (I live in Mexico and our Postal Service is really crappy).

Looking forward to pictures as well, was wanting a case like this since I read mangas and also browse ebay in portiat mode.

I just Googled "iconia a500 rotating case" and found another vendor for this item and bought it for about $19 total. (Same item but $10 cheaper than the two vendors on Amazon; in fact this vendor is through amazonwebstore.) I'll try to remember to post back here after I get to play with it for a couple of days.

I received the case yesterday, so shipment from the vendor I used was quick enough for me. The case looks just as it does in pictures posted in this thread already, so I won't add more.
The thickness of the case material seems like it will protect the tablet very well from abrasion damage. As for impact damage, dropping small/light things onto the case shouldn't damage the tablet inside--or even dropping the tablet itself onto a hard floor unless the tablet lands right on a corner as the sides are exposed. (Even then, the case will protect it a little bit as it does extend over the edges of the Iconia a little.)
When the case is open, access is unobstructed to all buttons and ports except, of course, the docking port. When the case is closed, the elastic band covers the camera and the headphone port. I can't imagine anyone trying to take pictures with the Iconia closed in the case, but blockage of the headphone port could be a problem for people who want to close the case securely with the elastic band and listen to music through wired headphones at the same time.
There are two preset angles in this case. Using the trusty eyeballing method, one is 50 deg and the other is 65 deg. There is enough friction to set the tablet at any angle between there and not much give to set beyond.
The rotation works as advertised and is the reason why I got this particular case. I spent $19 on it and feel it's a good value. If you find a deal on this case for $10-$15, then you shouldn't even hesitate.

$17.99 now at Amazon.com
Same case ... just through a different retailer.
same manufacture... just supplies to different retailers and they in turn set their own price.
http://www.amazon.com/Iconia-Multi-...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315109306&sr=1-72
Some other examples... but the above is currently the cheapest being at $17.99.
($19.97)
http://www.amazon.com/PU-Rotating-C...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110415&sr=1-92
and this one won't even be available till Sept/20
($22.87)
http://www.amazon.com/DURAGADGET-De...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110603&sr=1-1

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?

I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.

cmunho said:
Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.

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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.

thank you
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So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is

Billyvnilly said:
When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.

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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?

magnet

I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.

maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation

Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
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So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!

I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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ual4720 said:
I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.

I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.

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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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bbfoto said:
Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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Picked up mine....nice surprise two covers

Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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Nice phone!
Do you know the exact model number?
I am tempted by the black leather back, even more so if this also comes with the UK leather version

Its the LG-H815 but above the barcode there is printed "NLD" which mean Nederland (Netherlands)

*justintime* said:
Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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You still need a different cover for wireless charging. That's for NFC. I tried mine on both G3 LG WCD 100 and S4 wireless charging pad. Its not working xD.

Hmm... so maybe the early rumors were true in that a leather purchase gets you a leather and plastic. It was a rumor, no one has really since talked about it, and yet here we see an example of it being true at a retail purchase level.
QI wireless will surely be achieved by a sticker, so no new back will be "needed" - they just have not hit the market yet.

"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?

what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?

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what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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"dutch T-mobile shop" stated in first post

I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?

jason-tech-uk said:
I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?
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Oh man.. this is what I do not want to hear and see, but I feel like inside I was going to hear this. With all of the hype and that stupid "12 weeks to make a leather back" total BS, they better have found a way to make that leather stick and stick on curves because if not, that is an utter fail.

two backs
i was told buy a guy in the car phoned warehouse ashton UK that he had two phones in the back and they had two back covers with them in the box

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"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?
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Yes champagne volume rockers and power button.
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what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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Very big sale at T-mobile.
It's for two year contract 6GB 4G(LTE) data bundle. And 120minutes calling for 35 euro a month.
And LG G4 for free.
BTW it's a great phone! Very happy with it. Blown away of the photos.... But okay everything looks better than a HTC one. [emoji3]
I have Blinkfeed set as my home screen. [emoji6]

I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday

gavo84 said:
how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday
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Think they made a mistake

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]

Moonscoute said:
About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]
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Yes. They are red QuadBeat 3 buds.

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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Yay!
I work at Carphone and am waiting for my store to get out stock in. But now I know the black has a pair cover I am gonna ore order tomorrow for that free Bluetooth speaker
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Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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jaggrey said:
Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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LG is making an "exclusive" gold G4 just for Spain. Point is.... not entirely uncommon for them to make deals that vary from place to place.
Another case in point? Only USA people get the G4 "freebies", Spain does not.