Screwed by Expansys again - Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories

I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.

yzf750 said:
I should of learned my lesson with the tv out cable. For those that keep up on the threads and know how many of us got screwed by expansys lying to us on them being in stock when they didnt really have any.
Well I swore i would never buy again from them, but I wanted the rubber battery back cover bad. And since they are the only ones to sell it I went ahead and ordered one from expansys. I used a discount code from wmpowerusers.com (15 bucks off any order over 31 bucks) Trouble is the cover is 29.99 so I ordered a screen protector also to make the coupon valid. I filled the checkout basket, entered the code and the discounted price showed. Went ahead and ordered, both items show "instock" ships "same day" on the usa website.
I should of learned my lesson. I got an email a few hours later, they removed the discount. Even though wmpowerusers says it works in the usa. Worst is the back is out of stock (yeah right go figure, the website still shows it in stock as of now) and they said they can ship the screen protector for 2.50 more if i want it right away.
Guess I will Call them tomorrow and cancel it all. HTC.....PLEASE GET A NEW PARTNER TO SELL YOUR STUFF!!!! expansys has to be the worst company for htc stuff and from alot of other peoples posts on this forum it sure shows.
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I know the trouble about Expansys. I ordered a QTEK 8500 aka Cingular 3125 from them. When I received the product the outside screen did not work. I assumed it was a bad ROM flash / etc. I flashed another ROM on it and it still had the problem. When I called Expansys about the defect they told me is B Stock product and that I couldn't return. I asked them how they would sell a product that wasn't fully fucntioning. The only response I got back was that it was working when they shipped it out.
I will never deal with them again.

thanks for the heads up, though I've been staying away from expansys since their prices are never realistic anyways

UPDATE:
I received my touch pro screen protector today from expansys. Totally disapointed. The cost was 10 bucks. I consider it 10 bucks flushed down the toilet.
The screen protector is a 2 piece one. First of all mine is stamped backwards. Go figure, the speaker hole was cut backwards so it is off center of the light sensor led and ear hole itself. It covers the sensor and has a big space on the right of the earhole that shows the phone underneath.
Second, the bottom piece is larger then the phone pad widthwise (maybe a millimeter) so it lifts the corners up each time you use a pad button since it hits the case on both sides. It looks terrible after just a few uses.
I do not think I would pay more then 50 cents for something like this. I guess I will have to order from a reputable screen protector manufacture now and toss this one in the garbage where it belongs.

ehh i dunno about the screen protector stuff but taht 'coupon' that they didnt apply...was applied (or at least for me it was). It doesnt show up on the confirmation email but check your CC. They charged me 15 bucks less than the confirmation email. If things arent right you can call/email them about it. generally they're nice about it.
(again this is only from my personal experience that i had with them ONCE...not speaking for everyone)

I had emailed them about the problem with the screen protector. No reply as usual. I did get the discount finally also so that is squared away at least. I just want people to know that this is a cheaply made protector and definetly not worth 10 bucks for only one that you get. For the quality of it you should get a 10 pack at that price. Its sold as an Expansys brand screen protector. However it comes wrapped in another companys packaging with chinese lettering on it. It is a BHB screen protector. Why Expansys lists it as their brand I do not know. Google search on BHB finds them as low as 1.99
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center. You end up with bubbles around it when you use the scroll feature on with that button. It now sits in my trash can.
On the other hand if this item had been worth the money ,I would of gladly posted that also to be fair. I have found this forum to be a great place to get opinions of products to both buy and stay away from.
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I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.

bfspider said:
I've bought all my screen protectors from http://www.martinfields.com/
They always last and have waaaaaay less scratches that other screen protectors that I have used.
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Just ordered one ..thanks

Not sure about the screen protector, the one I ordered was HTC's ($10.99). I just have to deal with the cut-out for the front cam. Most of the other time I order from Clarivue.

Wow, that's pretty ****ty. I've never dealt with expansys, but I really never imagined they would be that bad. Looks like a person would be better off to:
1)search ebay
2)sort by: Price+shipping: lowest first
3)close your eyes
4)hold the down key
5)click the mouse
6)buy it
....but seriously, I just can't believe they do business like that.

yzf750 said:
I also forgot to mention that the cutout for the circular button on the button pad is off by a few millimeters also so it does not center.
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You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.

Thank you for the info on this one. Seeing as thought how many people have had problems with them I definitely wont even try them.

NuShrike said:
You sure you didn't just put the protector on backwards? Flip it over?
The difference between the left-right sides is about the 2mm size of the light sensor.
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The protector has stickers on it showing which side goes up, plus its sticky on one side only. It is cut backwards. Im sure it went though the manufacturing punch machine backwards. I might have gotten a bad one, but again I emailed Expansys explaining the problem, again NO REPLY as usual. I have never once had an email to expansys replied to. I have been polite in all of them asking for an answer. Ask anyone else who has emailed them the same, they do not reply. Piss poor service if you ask me.

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3134553#post3134553
for my eXpansys horror story. Unfortunately I didn't catch this thread until it was too late.

Related

NEW 360° Rotating case for Acer Iconia Tab A500

Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
Looks fairly good overall....
...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
Achristocat said:
...but the description describes it as having "snap shut closure..."
Looks like a band of elastic that wraps around it to keep it shut...
If this had magnets, or real snaps or...something else, it might be a contender...I'm not a fan of elastic...wears out way too fast.
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I think what you are seeing as "elastic bands" are the grooves in the case for the edge of the tablet to set in.
I will be very eager to hear from someone who gets this case to find out:
1. How it"snaps shut"?
2. If the flap opens all the way to the back?
3. How well the tablet stays in the case?
I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
Hymizzle said:
I purchased this from Ebay a week ago. When it comes I will post pics and give my thoughts on it. Should arrive next week. Woot!!
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Looking forward to the pictures.
source for real store
choccy74 said:
Looks nice, but, I refuse to use eBay.. a source for this from a real store would be great
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I am purchasing this within next week. Seller gave me the link for his store.
http://www.fintie.com/
IMHO, it looks like one of the best cases out there.
Per the description from the store link above,
5.Elastic band holds iPad 2 closed securely while on the go
maybe it does use elastic bands, but since it also says "iPad 2" I'll be curious to see how it actually works.
Elastic closure...
Having gone to where the original object was posted and downloaded the picture, I saw a swelling on the "upper corner" of the cover that could really only be a couple of things...
Given the lack of anything else that might be considered a candidate for some sort of closure, I figured it to be elastic...
Looking forward to seeing the confirmation in other people's pictures...I still may get it and modify it to my liking. Seems like the closest yet. I do wish it had some other type of closure...
P.S. I love the simplicity of the TPU "snapon" case I have now - seems to offer more corner / edge protection should I mishandle it.
I may buy another TPU case and add / modify it with portions of this case. now THAT would be cool...
I'm thinking that "snap shut" could means like one of those jean button...
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( then dock it through a circle ring ( case snap on to base ) to become desktop with angles and 360 rotation positions )
Top half of the circle above Acer logo is part of tablet case while the bottom half is use as the backstand. ( it is bendable at that part/or separate.... see the joint lines in pic #1 )
the Jeans snap shut button could either be on the top half or the lower half circle... served the same purpose.
Together, they combined to becomes a portfolio case
point #4 at the retail site:
http://www.fintie.com/Tablet PC Accessoriesessories/Acer?product_id=1190
4.Snap-n-Roll Design, Detachable case easily snaps into mount.
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I preferred that it is bendable instead of separate and snap on button on the top half of the ring.
top candidate for me and also because cannot get the Blurex case from Amazon to Canada.
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UnicornKaz said:
Found this while searching for Iconia cases
The part in the back looks to be high quality and it clipped on to the body just like the Blurex case but also offered 360° Rotating
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Case...022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23133d8446
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Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
pov1 said:
Rotating ? Strange way to describe it.
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What's so strange about describing a gadget or item that is capable of "360° Rotation" ???
besides... that's what the ad said !!
maybe some people just run out of things to complain about, so they have to pick on a word ??
I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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I'm looking forward to reading the user reviews of this case.
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Same here, but I have the blurex slim case now and love it, and but this case looks nice
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App
I received mine today, which I ordered last week from fintie.com. It looks exactly like the pictures on ebay or the fintie.com so I am not going to post any pictures. I also have a blurex slim case (same thing with roocase slim) and quality wise it is not as good as blurex, and it has one less indentation thingies in the case that serve as a stopper for different angels, but it stays fine even if you don put the table directly into those indentations.
Build quality is ok, not great but ok. Unfortunately just like in the pictures it has an elastic strap as a closure instead of a magnetic flap or a hard leather part like in blurex case. I am not sure if it wears out or becomes lose quickly, only the time will tell.
Swivel mechanism works fine, and it is a lot easier to remove the tablet from the case, if you are doing that constantly. The part that your tablet sits in is plastic, the rest is fake leather. It is slightly thinner than the blurex slim case, mainly due to less padding on the flap.
Removing the plastic case from the swivel mechanism and flap is NOT easy at all, and would probably break the notches on the swivel eventually.
Both sides are open like the blurex case, so this is not designed to protect your tablet if you drop it sideways, but more for to protect it from daily wear and tear and carrying in a bag, etc.
All in all I am happy with it and would buy it again, since I really wanted something that swivels for reading comics in portrait mode.
Thanks man, this seems like a nice case then. I will order mine within this week, although it will probably reach my hands one month after I do the purchase (I live in Mexico and our Postal Service is really crappy).
Looking forward to pictures as well, was wanting a case like this since I read mangas and also browse ebay in portiat mode.
I just Googled "iconia a500 rotating case" and found another vendor for this item and bought it for about $19 total. (Same item but $10 cheaper than the two vendors on Amazon; in fact this vendor is through amazonwebstore.) I'll try to remember to post back here after I get to play with it for a couple of days.
I received the case yesterday, so shipment from the vendor I used was quick enough for me. The case looks just as it does in pictures posted in this thread already, so I won't add more.
The thickness of the case material seems like it will protect the tablet very well from abrasion damage. As for impact damage, dropping small/light things onto the case shouldn't damage the tablet inside--or even dropping the tablet itself onto a hard floor unless the tablet lands right on a corner as the sides are exposed. (Even then, the case will protect it a little bit as it does extend over the edges of the Iconia a little.)
When the case is open, access is unobstructed to all buttons and ports except, of course, the docking port. When the case is closed, the elastic band covers the camera and the headphone port. I can't imagine anyone trying to take pictures with the Iconia closed in the case, but blockage of the headphone port could be a problem for people who want to close the case securely with the elastic band and listen to music through wired headphones at the same time.
There are two preset angles in this case. Using the trusty eyeballing method, one is 50 deg and the other is 65 deg. There is enough friction to set the tablet at any angle between there and not much give to set beyond.
The rotation works as advertised and is the reason why I got this particular case. I spent $19 on it and feel it's a good value. If you find a deal on this case for $10-$15, then you shouldn't even hesitate.
$17.99 now at Amazon.com
Same case ... just through a different retailer.
same manufacture... just supplies to different retailers and they in turn set their own price.
http://www.amazon.com/Iconia-Multi-...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315109306&sr=1-72
Some other examples... but the above is currently the cheapest being at $17.99.
($19.97)
http://www.amazon.com/PU-Rotating-C...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110415&sr=1-92
and this one won't even be available till Sept/20
($22.87)
http://www.amazon.com/DURAGADGET-De...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315110603&sr=1-1

Cracked S2 screen from a short drop. Depressed.

A really stupid story, and I am sure not that uncommon either. Was in the college cubicle this morning (adult college, English ex-pat learning Finnish) and some bright spark had set the automatic lights at something like 2-3 minutes. Cue darkness and yours truly having the bright idea (no joke intended) of grabbing my phone and using my bright-as-the-sun SAMOLED+ screen to regain composure in pitch darkness and reactivate the lights.
I accidentally dropped the phone from knee height (please, imagination not necessary) onto the tiled floor leaving me with a dim partial screen lightup and many many problems, especially as I use my phone heavily to help with my language course. AAAAAAGGG.
Well, this is definitely going to be a lesson to anyone who doesn't think it will happen to them (one more educated user down, many to go) and haven't invested in a bumper case or at least a silicone cover. The only recourse I am aware of is the screens from aliexpress.com which both cost approximately a 1/4 of what the phone is worth....unless anybody has any better sources they can share?
Before I debase myself further, I have to mention that I am a 35-yr old who moved country with his family and is currently on a government-sponsored language integration course, and is therefore on the equivalent of unemployment-level finances until at least August 2012 with books to buy and all that depressing stuff. My phone is my only real luxury at the moment (cry cry, etc) and has become a lifeline helping me improve my language skills to become employable again in a very skill-oriented country. In that respect it is more than worth its (albeit svelte) weight in gold to me.
Despite me not being an existing contributor here as such, not having accrued reputation and therefore not being seen as an investment, I plan to provide a screen replacement tutorial (laced with comments like "BUY A BUMPER CASE!") when I can afford to buy a new screen. In that respect, I have set up a "Donate To Me" button to the left in my profile chit:
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....which I hope people would be goodly enough to use anonymously to help ease my transition through my S2 limbo. Please understand that this is not invitation to deride me for my stupidity in not buying a case yet (practical lesson learnt already, believe me) or to comment on the validity of my request in what is to me a very troubling time.
I'll be ordering the new screen at the end of the week. This is the first picture of the intended tutorial:
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I am a fairly good photographer and document writer, if that is my one saving grace in this instance. The first wag to suggest I sell my camera or my PC gets the dogs set on them!
Source links for replacement screen assemblies:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/905...ng-Galaxy-S-II-2-i9100-Super-AMOLED-Plus.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/905...-Flex-Cable-For-Samsung-Galaxy-S-2-i9100.html
My email is carldotmaltby.at.googlemaildotcom for donations. Even half a Euro here or there helps ease the sting.
If you can't be generous, please be nice.
Or in Finnish, "jos sä et voi olla antelias, ole silti kiltti".
In addition, if you live in Satakunta and need guitars/basses set up and/or repaired then I can do this for a very reasonable fee. I will also have plenty of woodland mushrooms for sale. I make a mean curry. I know far too much about Matsumoku-era Japanese Aria guitars. I can still remember most of my Sinclair Spectrum machine code. I helped to prove from geotechnical data that there is a continuous layer of impermeable clay below the Stratford Olympic Village site preventing migration of contaminants buried beneath the multi-million pound development thereon from leaching into sensitive waterways. I can calculate weight bearing and design roof trusses for lots and lots of snow. I ran 10km in a very slow 59m 52s once. I came second in an egg and spoon race when I was four. I invented one of the first network instant messaging systems in 1991 using BBC BASIC and various network hacks. I then implemented it in Winword. I know far too much about brasses. I have three points on my driving licence that I should have had removed seven years ago. I can't ice skate. If any of these skills or lack of are capitalisable to you, drop me a PM....!! Callers are standing by.
Gutted!!!
Do you not use some sort of case?
I use a great rubber one that in VERY close to the phone so doesn't even look like i use one!
Looks good and would save my phone if i ever dropped it
Ouch...
Many sympathies. And good luck learning Finnish, it's horribly tough. I gave up and learnerd Swedish instead from my Finnish ex - helluva lot easier.
@OneZeoN - I've never actually used a case before, and it is only recently (well, July 2010) when I bought my first large format screen phone. Before then They were semi-bricks like my Nokia 5800 Xpress Music which you'd need to stab with an icepick to damage. My original Galaxy S never failed either. I've always been very careful (or lucky).
I guess I fell for the svelte design and feather weight of the S2. It's a shame that form is taking more precedence over function in some kind of counter-productive race on thinnest-flattest-lightest-shiniest, as the walls of material physics are being hit hard. Shock-absorbancy doesn't marry well with thin and stiff as my S2 proves.
I'm going over whether to run a silicone skin or a proper bumper case. Given that every Euro counts at the moment (upcoming school books and my wife needs a nurse uniform "for school", woof) I'm a little worried that silicone might not provide the protection and assurance an expensive phone like an S2 really needs. As you say, more than likely better than no protection!
@B3311 - Finnish is unfeasibly hard. That said, it is very logical like German is. You can read Finnish straight from the page and even if you don't know the words or the sense of what you are reading, everything can be vocalised. The grammar is the problem, cramming that system into your head and then realising you haven't had time to absorb any vocab so you have nothing useful to say. I keep telling myself that two years of intensive language courses will pay off for the rest of my life. Swedish is easy, yes.
Does it affect the way your screen renders things or is it only on the gorilla glass?
My friend dropped his belt buckle on his LG Optimus 2X and cracked his gorilla glass but it still turns on and renders without problems. He sent it back to LG and got a replacement (only the glass) for $5 + $10 service fee.
Or maybe this can help?
Thanks for the link. My glass is immaculate and the crack is in the screen component mounted beneath the glass itself.
More than a little polishing required here!
<edit: apologies for the bad photo. snap decision and not set up fully hence the reflection!>
If you find a source for the bits, I would be pleased to hear about it.
My buddy's son did the same thing, but the display underneath is OK, but the glass is cracked. He now has my spare gel case, but needs to find a new glass.
Someone else, with an iPhone 4, told me his agent charged £180 to replace the glass when he did it.
The screen, glass and bezel seem to comprise one unit. I haven't taken my S2 apart any further than the rear plastic cover and bezel as I only really want to try this once I get around to replacing the screen for real. It seems it will be a "full body transplant" of all components and boards from the old damaged (well, killed) screen straight across to the new unit.
A full teardown is available here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-2-Teardown/5861/1
...and a little-too-quick-for-my-liking video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKztg1ra4-0
Most of this evening will be spent looking for sources. Amazon and "Ali Express" seem like the most likely sources, however I haven't even found suggestions here really. Has nobody broken their S2 yet, unlike me?
I'm marginally concerned about ordering from a random Chinese site, however since it likely won't come from anywhere else what can I do? X'D
Oh, and despite my apparent light-hearted posting I am still depressed. Levity in the face of gravity and all that.
"Disassembly" in pic slideshow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYNy0ODQ26A
Has anybody had any experience with this company? Going to ask this in the accessories section also.
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-lcd-touch-screen-digitizer-replacement.html
I sympathise with the OP. I cracked the glass to the left of the home screen button, it shattered in an area 6 x 10 mm and propogated from the bottom left hand corner, with 4 long cracks running into the main screen area. Fortunatly for me the it still works and the long cracks are very fine and not too distracting.
It was in my pocket when it happen and i don't recall bashing into anything. I assume it was a glancing blow from the handle of a cupboard door which matches the hight where my phone would sit in my pocket. When I first pull it out I thought I had my friends phone (HTC Touch HD2 since he has cracks from where it fell from his bike) gutted when I realised what had occurred.
I have looked up service centres in the uk and was sent to CPW in Bristol, spoke to "the Tech Guy" they quote £150, 2 days lead on the part (incidental anecdote: and their engineer isnt in because he has a bad back. The guy told me had had a similar crack in his sgs2.) Have found others offering fitting for £125 but would much prefer the recommendation of a stranger on a website i lurk in . I have put a cheap screen protector on top so not to loose further glass.
anyway good luck.
Small donation sent. Good luck.
Thank you! I really appreciate it and the other donations made so far. I calculate that I am about 2-3% of the way there already. I think I remember where my anti-static wrist strap is also! I just need to locate a SAMOLED+ screen replacement.
I believe I will need to inspect the screen assembly when it arrives, as this may not involve a "full body" transplant and might just require the Gorilla glass debonding from the bezel rather than a full disassemble. I'm not sure which of these I actually prefer however...
@s1lvf1sh - those propogating cracks must be a complete nightmare as any pressure will surely apply stress along them! I don't know whether the glass can be replaced on its own as it seems to be that it is bonded to the SAMOLED itself. Perhaps this goes some way as to explaining the high cost of glass replacement services? I hope to see Samsung using flexible AMOLEDs in the next couple of years, as they appear to be all but immune to convential damage.
....and unconvential damage....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8S8tbQMp2k
Pulled the trigger on a new SAMOLED screen from a UK reseller for a reasonable price. Should arrive next week, so unless I get some good time during the day that week I will be documenting the replacement process next Saturday and uploading the same or the next day or thereabouts.
Thanks to everybody that made donations. Found out yesterday that my next language book will cost me €49(£42) which is a serious dent in our general finances alongside this new screen and my intended bumper case. Any supplementary donations are always welcome of course! :-D
Whilst I am on-topic; if any steps of the transplant process need documenting in specific detail, it would be a good time to discuss those now I guess.
I'm no expert here..... but on my O2 mini I had many a year ago I had the screen go garbled like that after i dropped it. Now I understand that this phone is a amoled where my O2 was an lcd but I found the problem with the O2 was the flat cable connection for the screen to the motherboard....
Just a thought and doubt your problem is the same but you have to pull the phone apart anyway so worth a check.
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I'm no expert here..... but on my O2 mini I had many a year ago I had the screen go garbled like that after i dropped it. Now I understand that this phone is a amoled where my O2 was an lcd but I found the problem with the O2 was the flat cable connection for the screen to the motherboard....
Just a thought and doubt your problem is the same but you have to pull the phone apart anyway so worth a check.
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It's unlikely that I am the first person with a broken S2 LCD/LED given the number of them up for sale out there. In that respect any fatal design flaws should have been reported by now, so I doubt it will be a similar problem however I never rule anything out until I have appropriate evidence so I will definitely examine the damaged screen and trace the source of the crack back through to the initial shock transmission point in the (relatively) inelastic case.
In other news, I am heavily tempted to buy an aluminium Taurus case.
don't buy the story. My SG2 fell down 3times. One time even from more than 2.5 meters hight. No impact on any function so far.
sorry, but wish you good luck anyway. May God give you power to manage your life with honour.
Story? It's far from being a story at this end of the Internet! I'm stuck with "using" a GT-S3370E whilst I've been rejigging money to cover this repair and have discovered the downside of syncing all your contacts with your Google account....when you move backwards to an older phone that can't do that, you find that you have no numbers on your phone. Bleh.
Good luck with dropping your phone "successfully". Most people just don't get second chances you know? Just happy that I'm living my life honourably under my own steam thanks.
PS. A big Saturday handshake to the last donation received! Makes me feel a hell of a lot less "out in the cold" from my little disaster.
PPS. Missing Android.
Feel with you. Made my first scratch today dropping mine from knee height as well...Luckily its at the edge of the screen and barely visible.
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Feel with you. Made my first scratch today dropping mine from knee height as well...Luckily its at the edge of the screen and barely visible.
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No scratches in mine. I suppose that just makes it worse, that I wrote off a pristine Gorilla Glass screen by cracking the LED underneath. I hated the scratch in my original S. 3mm right down in the middle, two-thirds down. Grr.
Considering a Zonus leather wallet case instead of a bumper. Not a fan of the portrait ones though. A little too Star Trek communicator for my liking....reminds me of Ace Ventura too....

Anyone used NILLKIN tree-texture leather flip case?

http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=13&id=2981&page=1
It's exactly the kind of case I like. I'm not afraid of dropping my Nexus 4. I've never done that with a previous phone and I don't see why it would happen with this one. Sure it slides more easily of the couch, but I can live with that. I do want something to prevent the glass from scratching. I could use a screen protector but I don't like the feel and the look. A flip case like this prevents the glass from getting scratched, and it looks really stylish IMO.
Has anyone bought this case? I've found a thread about this case but no one has actually used it. I don't even know if you can buy it anywhere besides on ebay. I would love to hear someone's opinion about this case, or even better; to see some actual pictures.
I am also interested in this style case for the reasons you mention. The issue I have is about where the flap goes while using the phone. Seems like it would get in the way. And camera use would mean the flap just kind of dangles and becomes a nuisance. These do look fantastic however.
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Wow those look nice! I think I've finally decided on the case I want to buy. Yeah I think you're right, looks like can only buy on ebay and ships from china. If anyone buys one let us know from which seller.
Just thought of something... Is it easy enough to get in and out of the case that you just remove when the case gets in the way?
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Hey I've bought this and it arrived this week from this buyer: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/nillkin_case?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Delivery was pretty quick considering that it came from Hong Kong.
My phone hasn't actually arrived yet but it looks like it will protect it quite well. When it is closed the sides are completely covered (minus a hole for the button on the right side) and the top and bottom are also open. The inside material of the flap is like felt and is quite nice, whereas the inside of the casing is plastic.
I don't think the flap will interfere with usage since it feels quite natural in the hand when open, but you can't flip it all the way back without stressing the material.
If you guys want to know anything else let me know and I'll try and help ^^
Looking forward to your thoughts once phone arrives. When do you think you will get phone?
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TsunKit said:
Hey I've bought this and it arrived this week from this buyer: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/nillkin_case?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Delivery was pretty quick considering that it came from Hong Kong.
My phone hasn't actually arrived yet but it looks like it will protect it quite well. When it is closed the sides are completely covered (minus a hole for the button on the right side) and the top and bottom are also open. The inside material of the flap is like felt and is quite nice, whereas the inside of the casing is plastic.
I don't think the flap will interfere with usage since it feels quite natural in the hand when open, but you can't flip it all the way back without stressing the material.
If you guys want to know anything else let me know and I'll try and help ^^
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You CAN'T flip it all the way back? That's pretty weird. I believe all flip cases are supposed to flip all the way back without stressing the material. It even says so on the website:
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I've toyed around with a Galaxy SII that has a flip cover, and the flap does get in the way a little. You can flip it around the back, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having rounded corners and stuff. The whole design for ultimate handling, something the nexus line has always been good at, is kind of ruined with a case like this. But I guess that goes for all cases.
I don't take a lot of pictures, and that one time I do, I'm sure I can just let it hang. Anyway, maybe I won't always use this case, but sometimes it can be useful. Rather this than a TPU case or a hardcase. I've yet to find one that doesn't make the phone look bulky and/or cheap. And there are other leather flip cases, but none so stylish and thin as this one.
Here you can order one that ships for free to almost anywhere in the world. Don't know about the shipping time though. The price is $16.
http://dx-box.com/nillkin-fashion-real-leather-skin-for-lg-nexus-4-e960-case.html
I have one shipping to me as well. Bought it on 12/4 haven't gotten it yet but should be any day now. I think my diztronic hard ultra thin case will be delivered before that lol. I'll report back and put my lil take on it if no one has done so yet.
I may even sell it! I have too many cases coming in lol
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You CAN'T flip it all the way back? That's pretty weird. I believe all flip cases are supposed to flip all the way back without stressing the material. It even says so on the website
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Yeah it can flip back like that but I feel that if it is flipped like that for a while it will crease the material etc.
Just me being fussy
This flip case arrived for me today. The build is simply up there it feels and looks very nice. The holes are cut out perfectly and make accessing the power button and volume buttons very seamless. However like all flip cases taking photos feels a bit weird. But with that added protection for the screen I don't mind much. The case is also very minimal it doesn't add much thickness to the phone.
So far the only problem I see is that gripping the phone can be somewhat annoying especially since you have to put a little bit of extra pressure to fold the cover completely back. Even when you fold it back the little extra bit that sticks out to the right makes holding the phone in vertical orientation a pain in the ***. Also some apps in landscape mode refuse to flip around like bad piggies so having to hold the phone with the cover below is extremely annoying.
I will upload photos for you guys soon.
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glad i saw this. just the type of case i was looking for. went ahead and placed an order with nillkin_case on ebay.
You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970
I ordered this in grey on the 30th and was told it shipped the next day. Still waiting :crying:. I hope it's delivered this week.
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You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970
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Thanks! I already placed mine a while ago (12/4). But in grey.
ADJack said:
I ordered this in grey on the 30th and was told it shipped the next day. Still waiting :crying:. I hope it's delivered this week.
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I hear ya! I ordered one on 12/4 and according to tracking the case is stateside, in Chicago. However, I am in TX LOL. So another weekend
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You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970
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Ordered one this morning as well. Have not received a shopping notification yet from my ups.
Update I did receive my shipping information tonight. No estimated arrival yet.
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You can order this case on eBay from a US seller located in Phoenix (Arizona).
Seller: abacus24-7
eBay item: 370717427970
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Damn, sold out from this guy.
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Found this one on Ebay, item# 190763637047, looks to ship from US.
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Damn, sold out from this guy.
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Found this one on Ebay, item# 190763637047, looks to ship from US.
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He is not sold out. Looks like he has only sold 4 cases. I was number 1! If only this was kickball
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370717427970?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Found this one on Ebay, item# 190763637047, looks to ship from US.
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I really hate how lately there's been a lot of China sellers that check all the right boxes to show up under U.S. sellers only, when in reality they ship from China. Even though this seller claims to be from within the U.S., he actually mentions that the item ships from outside the U.S., so my guess is it's still drop shipped from China. I've had this happen to me quite a few times, place an order with a supposed U.S. seller, only for it to take 2 weeks and arrive in a totally foreign airmailed envelope. Another hint of this is when some of the seller's prices in their store appear to be converted to U.S. dollars, showing up in italics.
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He is not sold out. Looks like he has only sold 4 cases. I was number 1! If only this was kickball
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370717427970?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Just to confirm, this seller did ship from Phoenix, AZ. He used DHL and shipped extremely quick (same day I ordered).
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Please post pictures, or it didn't happen.

Nexus 6 Quality Issues (2 out of 2 phones)

So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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I am not going to say its anyone's fault but could be multiple things .... Have you seen how package companies treat packages they are shipping .... But yes more than likely that is a problem from factory
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Yeah, but not in this case. The box had a few minor dings, but was in otherwise near-perfect condition. The seal was still in perfect shape.
Looks like the battery ploded
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I had the same,
but not with the back cover problem. I had my original Nexus 6 replaced 2 times.
Within 3-4 days of minimal use my nexus 6 was getting a deep scratch on the screen which was very annoying.
This is the 3rd nexus 6 i am using and i did not take out the protector with which it came with until i bought a screen guard.
So i am still worried, if i take out the screen guard it will get a scratch again.
GG3 does not seem to be implemented in nexus 6 i guess.
After three weeks, my camera got progressively worse, taking blurry shots and double exposures,.. Looked like the optical stabilization failed, I got RMA started on 30 Dec, but finally I should receive My replacement today..... Here's hoping I don't have problems.
udimars30 said:
I had the same,
but not with the back cover problem. I had my original Nexus 6 replaced 2 times.
Within 3-4 days of minimal use my nexus 6 was getting a deep scratch on the screen which was very annoying.
This is the 3rd nexus 6 i am using and i did not take out the protector with which it came with until i bought a screen guard.
So i am still worried, if i take out the screen guard it will get a scratch again.
GG3 does not seem to be implemented in nexus 6 i guess.
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I've been using mine for more than two weeks now without any screen protector and the screen is perfect! I even carry it in my bag together with my Lumia 1520 and no problems at all! And Yes, the Nexus 6 IS with Gorilla Glass 3! I've seen people trying very hard to scratch this glass and they have all failed!
OrionBG said:
I've been using mine for more than two weeks now without any screen protector and the screen is perfect! I even carry it in my bag together with my Lumia 1520 and no problems at all! And Yes, the Nexus 6 IS with Gorilla Glass 3! I've seen people trying very hard to scratch this glass and they have all failed!
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It scratches Buddy trust me. My nexus 5 has a few
I replaced my att nexus 6 5 times for various problem. I don't want to get it started here. Anyways, I was expecting a lot better build quaility for this price point comparing to N5. I am really disappointed. GG Motorola.
What camera are you using to take the pictures of the Defects?
The warranty process with Motorola is always good. The advance exchange program is what sets Motorola apart from the rest. I had to replace a Moto G once through this program, and very seamless with 2-day shipping.
ken830 said:
So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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What camera are you using to take the pictures of the Defects?
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A Canon 70D with a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.
Ha, no wonder your pictures are so darn good. I need an SLR!
Thank you.
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A Canon 70D with a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.
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On my 5th (One DOA). My current device has the loud, clicky haptic feedback. I've had HTC devices that had clicky haptic, but this is the worst I've experienced. I'm just going to keep it unless it gets worse. After all the screen uniformity issues I've seen, I have no energy left to play the RMA lottery anymore.
Love/hate relationship.
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I am getting my T-Mobile warranty phone today next day shipping. OIS failed, bad battery (max 4 hr SOT), yellow screen even when RGB'd and red when low brightness, noisy vibration. Hope this one is better or I'll be jumping to a Z3 possibly. My GF had to warranty her Z3 for a dead LCD so I'm not convinced it'd be better...
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So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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Just a few observations. The phone would never be able to fit in the box with any bulge. Secondly, for a bulge to be that size it would be there are a lot of torque, yet the sides are popping off. The backcover is flexible but not so flexible as to do that where only that portion pops up like that. Perhaps a thin plastic like the Note 4, but not the hard plastic on the Nexus 6. As bad as the QC is, the factory or the guy would have to be insane to let that out of the factory. The visible glue suggests excessive pulling force. Seems like a botched attempt at removing the back to me
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Just a few observations. The phone would never be able to fit in the box with any bulge. Secondly, for a bulge to be that size it would be there are a lot of torque, yet the sides are popping off. The backcover is flexible but not so flexible as to do that where only that portion pops up like that. Perhaps a thin plastic like the Note 4, but not the hard plastic on the Nexus 6. As bad as the QC is, the factory or the guy would have to be insane to let that out of the factory. The visible glue suggests excessive pulling force. Seems like a botched attempt at removing the back to me
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I don't have an obligation to defend myself, but I can assure you that the phone came out of the box like that. The bulge is only on one edge and it is maybe 1/8"? That's not enough to "burst" out of the box. It's definitely close-able, even if the phone is not lying completely flat. But think about this logically -- what reason do I have to make a post like this if I had somehow botched an attempt at removing the back? And what's the reason for removing the back cover anyhow? Is there something I can get to that I'm not aware of? And if I were trying to remove the back, well, it doesn't look botched at all -- Why not just continue to pull the back off? I would be half-way there. It just doesn't make any sense.
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I don't have an obligation to defend myself, but I can assure you that the phone came out of the box like that. The bulge is only on one edge and it is maybe 1/8"? That's not enough to "burst" out of the box. It's definitely close-able, even if the phone is not lying completely flat. But think about this logically -- what reason do I have to make a post like this if I had somehow botched an attempt at removing the back? And what's the reason for removing the back cover anyhow? Is there something I can get to that I'm not aware of? And if I were trying to remove the back, well, it doesn't look botched at all -- Why not just continue to pull the back off? I would be half-way there. It just doesn't make any sense.
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I think the problem is your pic of the phone is so darn good. Aw, SLRs. The good old days. Everyone is used to ****ty cell phone pics now.
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Received my RMA and it was not in new packaging but had a factory screen protector. OIS works on this and the vibration is not fudged.
I read about the lifting problem on Phandroid, but the picture they posted wasn't nearly as bad as this one. Your experience is probably an exception amongst exceptions.
I feel sorry for you,I hope it resolves well.
I have two (white) Nexus 6's coming from Amazon France (apparently it has a full warranty on them so..), now getting a bit worried that the quality might not be up to par. For the price point, I was expecting better. I've seen more than enough articles/posts on the net from people with problems; for the lack of phones currently releasing in the market, I'd say a good amount have defects. Hopefully the two phones I've just ordered have come from a 'second'/newer batch produced with higher QC, and hopefully your replacement for this 2nd Nexus you have is also the same.
Good luck!

Picked up mine....nice surprise two covers

Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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Nice phone!
Do you know the exact model number?
I am tempted by the black leather back, even more so if this also comes with the UK leather version
Its the LG-H815 but above the barcode there is printed "NLD" which mean Nederland (Netherlands)
*justintime* said:
Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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You still need a different cover for wireless charging. That's for NFC. I tried mine on both G3 LG WCD 100 and S4 wireless charging pad. Its not working xD.
Hmm... so maybe the early rumors were true in that a leather purchase gets you a leather and plastic. It was a rumor, no one has really since talked about it, and yet here we see an example of it being true at a retail purchase level.
QI wireless will surely be achieved by a sticker, so no new back will be "needed" - they just have not hit the market yet.
"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?
what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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"dutch T-mobile shop" stated in first post
I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?
jason-tech-uk said:
I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?
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Oh man.. this is what I do not want to hear and see, but I feel like inside I was going to hear this. With all of the hype and that stupid "12 weeks to make a leather back" total BS, they better have found a way to make that leather stick and stick on curves because if not, that is an utter fail.
two backs
i was told buy a guy in the car phoned warehouse ashton UK that he had two phones in the back and they had two back covers with them in the box
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"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?
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Yes champagne volume rockers and power button.
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what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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Very big sale at T-mobile.
It's for two year contract 6GB 4G(LTE) data bundle. And 120minutes calling for 35 euro a month.
And LG G4 for free.
BTW it's a great phone! Very happy with it. Blown away of the photos.... But okay everything looks better than a HTC one. [emoji3]
I have Blinkfeed set as my home screen. [emoji6]
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday
gavo84 said:
how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday
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Think they made a mistake
Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]
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About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]
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Yes. They are red QuadBeat 3 buds.
Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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Yay!
I work at Carphone and am waiting for my store to get out stock in. But now I know the black has a pair cover I am gonna ore order tomorrow for that free Bluetooth speaker
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Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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jaggrey said:
Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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LG is making an "exclusive" gold G4 just for Spain. Point is.... not entirely uncommon for them to make deals that vary from place to place.
Another case in point? Only USA people get the G4 "freebies", Spain does not.

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