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At&t's "Pure" and original Touch Diamond 2 differences...

I've spent the last month falling for the Touch Diamond 2 and admiring its sleekness and look. I was wondering when or If it would EVER get a US/canadian release... until today, when i found out about the ugly Pure.
Why, oh why did our release get the PURE instead of the beautiful original diamond 2???
The reason I'm frustrated is because i like everything about the original diamond 2's design and hate the Pure's look. But i find out that the Pure has the 3.5 mm jack, AND 3G since its a US release.
Are there any other differences I should know???

Hmm are you sure the Pure has a 3.5mm jack?
You can see all the specification differences here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2956&idPhone1=2689
The Diamond 2 has a front video camera which is useless in the States because no network supports video calling; the Pure simply omits the camera.
Also, if you're going to get a new contract w/ 3g data plan, the Pure is a lot cheaper than the Diamond 2 right now:

Ahh, it doesnt have a 3.5mm jack either. thanks for the link.
Form factor, style, and look is a big deal for me. But I realize that the price difference between them is pretty large, with Pure being quite cheap. Which means if I bought the diamond 2, but I would be paying MORE just for the appearance and HAVE lack of 3G. Ugh.
I'm not going to be in a data plan anyways; but im worried that in the future that I do add one, I won't be able to use it.
Also, does anyone know if the actual Touch Diamond 2 will EVER come to the states/canada? or do you think the Pure will be it, and take its place here for good?
In the latter case, I'll probably buy the Touch diamond 2. I cant stand the Pure's look.

There was an initial advertising of the HTC Warhawk, which is supposed to be the AT&T version of the Diamond 2 but I don't think that'll be released. Also, the $0.01 price only applies if you get a new contract with 3G data plan; otherwise it's more expensive.
I think the Pure looks bad too So much glossy black plastic gives a generic and cheap look.

The Warhawk is the Pure. The Warhawk was AT&T's internal name of the phone. I have the Pure and I like it alot. Sure I think the Diamond 2's original body was sexy but I like the Dark/Blueish tint of the Pure.
The ONLY thing I really hate is the stupid USB connector cover. It's annoying and always restricts my USBs from going all the way in.

I like my Pure a lot too. Only complaints are that the stock ROM could be a little better (par for the course though, right?) and the screen protector AT&T ships with the phone is...sticky? Slows me down and makes some of the gestures harder to use (again, par for the course I think).
Aaron

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I like my Pure a lot too. Only complaints are that the stock ROM could be a little better (par for the course though, right?) and the screen protector AT&T ships with the phone is...sticky? Slows me down and makes some of the gestures harder to use (again, par for the course I think).
Aaron
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You probably have the Screen protector backwards. The "sticky" side is supposed to face the screen. The smooth side is what you use. No problems here with the screen protector.
The Stock Rom was crap, as always. First thing I would do is flash the official HTC WM6.5 Firmware.... or a custom one. I always recommend using an official firmware for a while on a new device.

I think the Pure is an excellent piece of hardware. You have to see it in person to appreciate it. I would find somebody who has one and hold it in your hands before you decide you don't like it. It is really very nice hardware.
If you don't like the colors of the housing, I'm sure there will be third-party housings available soon. And maybe even one that looks like the TD2 if that's the look you like.
I should also point out that the phonecanvas that most of the ROMs here on XDA use are incompatible with the Pure, because the Pure does not have a front video camera. You basically want the Leo phonecanvas, not the standard videocalling phonecanvas.
It's unfortunate because, contrary to popular opinion, the Pure DOES support video calling, just not with a front camera. AT&T has an option to sign up for this feature, but none of the videocalling ROMs I've tried actually work with the Pure.

You could always switch the pure's housing for that of the TD2. But you would also need the buttons, new digitizer, and maybe a new screen(They use different kinds I think) And it definitely has no 3.5mm jack

My Pure is all black (ATT)
I just got the Pure (not blue...it's all black) Saturday and must say I'm pretty impressed so far. I loaded SPMobile 3.51 and it really makes the phone much more finger friendly and quicker to do things with than TF 3D -at least for me... highly recommend checking into SPM. Other than a little laggy at times, I'm quite happy. Last phone was the IPhone 3GS.
Chris

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Hmm are you sure the Pure has a 3.5mm jack?
You can see all the specification differences here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2956&idPhone1=2689
The Diamond 2 has a front video camera which is useless in the States because no network supports video calling; the Pure simply omits the camera.
Also, if you're going to get a new contract w/ 3g data plan, the Pure is a lot cheaper than the Diamond 2 right now:
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I find I like having the front facing camera eventhough I can't use it. I'm sure that if the phone did have US 3G bands you would be able to use it. Only thing is the people ur calling would need a FFC also. So useless but not for taking ok pics of yourself.
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I just got the Pure (not blue...it's all black) Saturday and must say I'm pretty impressed so far. I loaded SPMobile 3.51 and it really makes the phone much more finger friendly and quicker to do things with than TF 3D -at least for me... highly recommend checking into SPM. Other than a little laggy at times, I'm quite happy. Last phone was the IPhone 3GS.
Chris
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Really that strange. Cause all of them I've seen are a Dark Midnight Metallic blue. Look at it in the daylight. I need pictuere proof.

HTC Touch Freak said:
I find I like having the front facing camera eventhough I can't use it. I'm sure that if the phone did have US 3G bands you would be able to use it. Only thing is the people ur calling would need a FFC also. So useless but not for taking ok pics of yourself.
Really that strange. Cause all of them I've seen are a Dark Midnight Metallic blue. Look at it in the daylight. I need pictuere proof.
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It's black:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=HTC+Pure&q_sku=sku4000289
proof enough?

cmart4 said:
It's black:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=HTC+Pure&q_sku=sku4000289
proof enough?
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No not really. If you manage to scroll the phone animation to almost the second dot. (1.5-2) Where you see the back of the phone you can see the blue. Yes from far away it may look black but it's blue.
Are you color blind? You should get your eyes checked.
Just noticed that it says black on the right corner. Unless they changed it from what it was it's still blue. It's dark and has blue highlights. Don't make me have to go into an AT&T store and ask to take pics of one for you. Cause I will.
Oh and I'll link some pics off google. I'd like to add that you can only tell in picture if the lighting is right. In person, well, I don't know how you can miss it unless you use ur phone at night and in dimly light places.
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OMG Look at the back highlight BLUE
And they'll ask what service I have and I'll reply T-Mo. Then they'll ask how much you pay. And I'll be like $50. Then they'll say what phone and I'll repy TD2. They say, And you pay $50. I say, yep 500 Whenever min, free T-mo to T-mo, Unlimited txt, along unlimited data. And they'll think to themselves. Damn why did I get AT&T and why do I work for them. Then after taking the pics I'll LOL out of the store and come home to post them up.

lol...whatever dude...it's black and my eyesight is perfect. You seriously need to get a life.

Ugh that blue tint makes it look even more lame.
I'm gettin the original touch diamond 2 regardless.

cmart4 said:
lol...whatever dude...it's black and my eyesight is perfect. You seriously need to get a life.
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Why argue when you've been proven wrong? It may appear black but put some light on it and it is indeed blue. I have purchased 3 Pures(One for my wench, my rugrat, and myself) from 3 different places and they are all the same color. They appear black but when you get some light on it there is a very heavy blue metallic hue to it.
Also someone mentioned the warhawk name previously, if you have a pure open the back cover, remove the battery, and read the sticker. I'll give a hint, it says HTC Warhawk (ST6356).
edit,
here's a pretty clear pic from http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/414/review-att-htc-pure-part-1unboxing

Time to man up here... you guys are right... after more careful, close examination it really is the dark blue. My bad! Guess my eyes are not as good as they once were. Sorry! I honestly thought it was black - as advertised by AT&T.
Chris

cmart4 said:
Time to man up here... you guys are right... after more careful, close examination it really is the dark blue. My bad! Guess my eyes are not as good as they once were. Sorry! I honestly thought it was black - as advertised by AT&T.
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Well thanks for manning up. No hard feelings.
I don't know why they advertise it as black. It should be asdertised as a Midnight Blue or something. Or Starry Night or Nght Sky or whatever color they want other than black.

Vote, if both had 3G in the US:
Touch Diamond 2
Pure
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I have both TD2 and Pure
I bought the TD2 for myself a few months ago, and the Pure for my wife this week. So far, they are both great. I like the pure better in the USA for the 3G. The USB cover is a pretty bad Fup on the part of AT&T / HTC. There is not 3.5 jack, but the one I bought came with the adapter (the one that also lets you charge and listen). Skip the ATT clear clamshell case, it kills the touch screen's sensitivity, and makes the edges of the screen totally non-responsive.
The ATT ROM is pretty slow, but so was the stock TD2 ROM unbranded with WM 6.1. I am getting ready to flash it to a Tom Condon ROM. His ROMs have been working great for me for a several years. My TD2 has his WM 6.5 released on or about 8/15/2009, fast and flawless. I ran his ROMs on my Trinity too.
If you are in the USA, the Pure is your pick. There is no reason to waste the money on an EDGE smartphone when you can have the same 3G cheaper. No Brainer, end of discussion.

Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?

I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.

The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?

Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:

I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.

ryotgz said:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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It's very un-Microsoft!

Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.

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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!

Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?

Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!

How come you got this over the mozart?

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How come you got this over the mozart?
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!

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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
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I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers

A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?

gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.

risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.

QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

Plastic back slowly getting looser

So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?

I'd exchange it if it really bothers you. Mine is snug.
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Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.

cmunho said:
Mine has it too. It was there when I got it. I bought a book case and now I just ignore the creaking. No big deal.
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You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.

Billyvnilly said:
You're probably right. When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released. did you get the official one or another? I do like the feature of the samsung one that will wakup the device when opening.
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I got the official one. While it may not be worth $50 I like it well enough and it protects from the "everyday". I've never dropped a tablet so I'm not worried about drops.

thank you
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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yes the same is

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When I bought it, bestbuy had no covers. Now I guess more are getting released.
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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.

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Most of my local Best Buys had the Samsung cover (white), and a black Belkin one on release date. You can check on their website what is in stock at your local stores. I'm sure more are on the way, too.
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The Samsung cover, does it stay closed on the screen just by weight, or do the magnets actually keep it closed?

magnet

I have same problem same area since day 1. Went to exchange, all sold oit! Other 2 problems are lightbleed and loose micro usb port.

maybe you provide us with an image to better describe the situation

Well. It is quite plasticy
I have mine over a week now, and haven't felt it loose. You should trade it mate. I like the bezel of the tab but the plastic is really annoying. There are quite a few cases out there though...
Billyvnilly said:
So I've owned the tablet for over a week now. I like it. However the plastic backing around the microSD slot has slowly become loose and now holding the device feels like cheap plastic. I don't access the port at all, save the one time i put the sd card in.
Anyone else noticing this build issue?
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I got mine a few days ago and I must say I quite like it! The only build issue I have is a somewhat remarkable amount of light bleed along the bottom but it doesn't bother me enough to post a pic of it. Best buy only had one case that didn't look very good so I'm still sporting the protective back covering till more cases are in stock. I have high hopes for this!

I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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I am on my 3rd Note trade in. It finally is not loose next to the sdcard. I told them I expect near Perfection if I Pay 400 for an 8 inch tablet!
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It really should be of better build quality for $400. Or it should be at least $100 cheaper. I have the 10.1 and it feels OK, not terribly cheap but not of high quality. I will be putting it up on eBay and going to the 8.0 regardless, due to it being a more pragmatic size for my day to day use. I’m just waiting on the black version.

I had this problem as well. I replaced it at best buy and haven't had a problem with the new one.
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you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Sure the build quality could be better but I haven't had a single issue with mine since I bought it on release day. From the reports here it seems like maybe some of them are not as solid as others.

Zeblade said:
you know it dont matter for they all are the same. The back just pops off very easy. Build quality was just to cheap and to thick for me.
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Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.

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Oooooooo magnets Are bad man. Not so much for regular phones but for phones with stylus and digitizer it will over time cause dead area s on your screen. Don't believe me ?
Head over to the note 2 forums and check out all the problems with cases involving magnet clasps. If got so bad the companies offered to replace your magnet sealing case with one with a simple button in stead. I had one and as soon as I put it on I started having problems with the area around that magnet.
Just stay away from magnetic cases period. Just trust me. Or mess up big time. Once that part of the screen gets borked its borked
That pic is the replacement one with the button they sent me. Also watch out for those magnetic kickstand cases. Big no no too those utilize neodymium!
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bbfoto said:
Obviously they are not "all the same" since some owners are reporting here that there are no issues with theirs. I think most people are going to use some type of case with this, so IMO it's not too much of an issue. Of course I would like to see better build quality, but I don't think it's that bad. I agree that the plastic back is too shiny/greasy/slippery/nasty, but then again most people are going to put it in a case.
You can get a good sense of the build quality by checking out the display units at Best Buy (if you live in the U.S.). These things are handled by tons of people and kids each day who treat them with little respect because they don't have any personal investment in them. You can always tell which products on display have subpar build quality.
And Really? It was too thick for you? How much thinner do you want it? There won't be any room for the battery if it's thinner, or for the S-Pen silo/dock. I'd rather have a bit longer battery life and a secure place to store my S-pen rather than a thinner tablet. The weight, thickness, and balance in the hand are the best I have experienced in this general size.
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Amen thin ness had gone to far. I don't want any thiner devices. Just keep them how they are and make better thinner batteries cpus whatever. Battery tech needs a big overhaul that's our biggest weakness
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Picked up mine....nice surprise two covers

Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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Nice phone!
Do you know the exact model number?
I am tempted by the black leather back, even more so if this also comes with the UK leather version

Its the LG-H815 but above the barcode there is printed "NLD" which mean Nederland (Netherlands)

*justintime* said:
Just picked up the brown version at the dutch T-mobile shop.
To my surprise there was also a plastic "normal" Champagne cover with the package.
And i see a "+" and "-" in the backcovers...... something to do with wireless charging?
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You still need a different cover for wireless charging. That's for NFC. I tried mine on both G3 LG WCD 100 and S4 wireless charging pad. Its not working xD.

Hmm... so maybe the early rumors were true in that a leather purchase gets you a leather and plastic. It was a rumor, no one has really since talked about it, and yet here we see an example of it being true at a retail purchase level.
QI wireless will surely be achieved by a sticker, so no new back will be "needed" - they just have not hit the market yet.

"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?

what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?

Phurkus said:
what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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"dutch T-mobile shop" stated in first post

I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?

jason-tech-uk said:
I think they are giving two colours as the leather one is not the best in my opinion, I had to get a case quick for it as the leather started to come away from the corner.
Have you noticed this at all?
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Oh man.. this is what I do not want to hear and see, but I feel like inside I was going to hear this. With all of the hype and that stupid "12 weeks to make a leather back" total BS, they better have found a way to make that leather stick and stick on curves because if not, that is an utter fail.

two backs
i was told buy a guy in the car phoned warehouse ashton UK that he had two phones in the back and they had two back covers with them in the box

eakew said:
"Champagne "? ... and power/volume buttons? gold/Champagne ?
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Yes champagne volume rockers and power button.
Phurkus said:
what carrier didd you buy from? about how much did you spend OP?
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Very big sale at T-mobile.
It's for two year contract 6GB 4G(LTE) data bundle. And 120minutes calling for 35 euro a month.
And LG G4 for free.
BTW it's a great phone! Very happy with it. Blown away of the photos.... But okay everything looks better than a HTC one. [emoji3]
I have Blinkfeed set as my home screen. [emoji6]

I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday

gavo84 said:
how have you got the phone now there not out till thursday
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Think they made a mistake

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]

Moonscoute said:
About the earbuds! Is it the QuadBeat 3? Would be really nice! It's supposed to be packed together with the G4 in certain markets. If it's in England, it maybe is in Sweden to[emoji2]
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Yes. They are red QuadBeat 3 buds.

Zoidy said:
I got my G4 today from the CPW store in Selfridges London. It's the black leather version and does indeed include a second plastic cover.
There are 4 pins inside the back of the phone so wireless charging is certainly possible with a sticker.
So far I'm really liking the phone. Definately an upgrade from my old G3 and much faster.
Can't comment on battery life or leather quality yet.
My deal was 3GB data unlimited calls and texts for £31 per month with £57 upfront on O2.
I really like the slight curve of the screen and carbon fibre effect on the front bezel.
For me I had been agonising over this or the s6 Edge but after seeing the Edge instore I found the screen appeared much smaller due to bends at the edges. It also didnt actually feel very premium to me.
Happy with my G4. Oh and it comes with some funky looking earbuds!
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Yay!
I work at Carphone and am waiting for my store to get out stock in. But now I know the black has a pair cover I am gonna ore order tomorrow for that free Bluetooth speaker
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Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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jaggrey said:
Interesting... T-Mobile US is saying it doesn't come with both covers in the box but only the leather one.
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LG is making an "exclusive" gold G4 just for Spain. Point is.... not entirely uncommon for them to make deals that vary from place to place.
Another case in point? Only USA people get the G4 "freebies", Spain does not.

Verizon has the Pixel2's in store on the floor

I just left the Verizon store in Sugar Land, they have Hands-On units to play with if you guys are interested.

What's your hands-on review?

I thought about going in to check one out. Then I decided not to torture myself like that. I gave up masochism years ago.

I played with one today for about 2 minutes in a store by my house and I liked it. It was noticeably snappier than my 6p and felt great in my hand. Didn't have time to mess with camera but I'm now even more excited to get my 2 xl in 2 weeks (or less)
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galaxys said:
What's your hands-on review?
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I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.

[email protected] said:
I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.
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Im thinking of getting the V30 instead. Which do you like more?

[email protected] said:
I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.
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As I walked into Verizon they were about to mount the pixel 2 xl so they let me play with it before they mounted and it felt really great in the hand, alot lighter than I anticipated, and the texture on the metal felt suprising premium, I thought it was going to feel like a cheap phone case

capsnbottles said:
Im thinking of getting the V30 instead. Which do you like more?
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I'm an Android purist. I go through phones like nobody's business. Ive always kept a Nexus or Pixel, as phones get released, I pick one up. This year I've had the Pixel XL, all year, along with it I had iPhone 7+, G6, S8 plus, Note 8, V30, in that order, as they are released. Before that, rinse and repeat.
I say this to express that the V30 is by far the hardest to leave behind, I may not. It's sleek, fast and checks ALL of the boxes, except Pure Android, and dual speakers.
The pixel misses, the wireless charging, and expandable storage.
The killer feature I was going to pass on the Pixel for is the 71 band for TMobile, but sadly it a year and a half from being deployed in my area.
You will not go won't with the V30. It is awesome! Best phone I've used to date... And that's AALLLL of them worth checking out.
But the speakers man, the speakers. The pure Android experience... Ridiculously pleasant to use for me.

Got my hands on one today as well
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How is screen quality against samsung?
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I'll go this weekend and compare with my N8
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If anyone has a chance if they go look at one, enable development options, if possible on a demo version, and see if OEM unlock is there and if it is greyed out. I am also going to try to get over to Verizon tomorrow and check this out and will post a pic if I happen to make it over there.

galaxys said:
What's your hands-on review?
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I played with it yesterday, phone is nice but doesn't feel like a premium hardware specially when compared to Note 8 or V30.
Minus the pure Android and Camera - it's like many chinese branded $400 - $500 phone.

I didn't get that at all

pimpmaneaton said:
If anyone has a chance if they go look at one, enable development options, if possible on a demo version, and see if OEM unlock is there and if it is greyed out. I am also going to try to get over to Verizon tomorrow and check this out and will post a pic if I happen to make it over there.
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I went to the store today and tried to enable developer options, the Verizon store sample did not allow me to do it. I went to about phone and clicked on everything 8+ times and nothing happened. I have used a stock phone in a while, so unless it was move I couldn't do it.
I spent a little more time with both phones. The 2xl feels very good in the hand imo. I also like the regular pixel 2. To me that felt more comfortable in the hand because it was smaller.
The screen on the 2xl is good. I liked the feel better than my S8+. Because the 2xl is a little wider and has a more solid feel on the sides it felt better than my Samsung. I have good size hands, I can palm a basketball, and on the 2xl my inner thumb or palm doesn't touch the curved screen. On my S8+ my inner hand meat can touch the screen when I reach across with my thumb.

Here are some photos of the 2xl and side by side with a screen burned Pixel XL
I also made sure the brightness was a 50% for both phones. You can see the POLED screen looks brighter.

XL2 Screen looks great, and those bezels look so much better!

Bxrider117 said:
I went to the store today and tried to enable developer options, the Verizon store sample did not allow me to do it. I went to about phone and clicked on everything 8+ times and nothing happened. I have used a stock phone in a while, so unless it was move I couldn't do it.
I spent a little more time with both phones. The 2xl feels very good in the hand imo. I also like the regular pixel 2. To me that felt more comfortable in the hand because it was smaller.
The screen on the 2xl is good. I liked the feel better than my S8+. Because the 2xl is a little wider and has a more solid feel on the sides it felt better than my Samsung. I have good size hands, I can palm a basketball, and on the 2xl my inner thumb or palm doesn't touch the curved screen. On my S8+ my inner hand meat can touch the screen when I reach across with my thumb.
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I went back today and enabled developers options. And the bootloader is definitely locked. So glad I ordered mine from Google and completely unlocked. I spent more time with it today and it's a terrific phone. Snappy and the screen looked great. Brightness was all the way up and I didn't try to make any adjustments. Phone feels good and looks good. I understand why some people prefer the LG v30 and it's a great alternative but I think the 2 xl will make plenty of people happy.
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I tested it out today as well and didn't get a "plastic-feeling" phone. The metal had a grainy texture to it and felt quite nice. I tested the XL since that's what I ordered. Didn't bother with the regular one. People said there was a "coating" on the metal, but I didn't seem to notice one like on the G5. That one felt like it had a clear rubber case on the metal.

Thanks for those pics @Bxrider117
Had to go the upsstore today and the verizon next door on Tyvola Rd on my side of Charlotte did not have them in. Told the nicer of the two guys I was interested in seeing the poled screen, explained how I'd heard on xda of the banding and not good quality in the other thread. One guy swooped in on me telling me how I could know or even say that for a phone that hasn't been released yet! I told him that the good verizon stores had demos. What a dummy, HIS store is supposed to have them but they said the google rep could not get any for them.
Yea right. "Believe half of what I see, and none of what I hear......Talkin' `bout my friend George" *Lou Reed
Your pics do give me some assurance that I won't have to send my blk64g 2xl back when it gets here!