Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.
Hi,
I have a Vodafone P3600 which I had unlocked and flashed to test both HTC WM5 and Faman WM6 3.3 and 3.4. I have a problem using it with my Parrot CK3100, and it's the following: devices pair perfectly, but when I leave my car and then return, most of times P3600 does not connect with handsfree. Sometimes, it does connect, but after a long time. This occurs with any OS version I have tested.
A problem with CK3100 is discarded because I have flashed it with latest software version, and it was tested with a HP RW6815.
I tried disabling power saving, setting bluetooth as discoverable, installing Jetware, but nothing made it work as it should.
I'm near to sell my P3600 and buy a new HTC Touch only to solve this problem, because I need much a handsfree working in my car.
Can any of you give a hint of what the problem could be?
Thanks.
I forgot to say that if I power on my HTC, it always connect to the Parrot. But when it's in standby sometimes connects and others no.
I have an SonyEricsson HBH-DS200 and this works unfortunately with the P3600 also in a from you described way. I tryed AWE and PDAVIET and also AX3L ROMs.
Other points and problems with BT HandsFree are:
1.) A litle icon to show that the BT HansFree is connected will be showed in the status only after the first paaring. After that, nothing shows you, that the BT HansFree is connected (and therefor can be used) or not.
2.) After a phone call the BT HandsFree will be disconnected.That meanns, that I can not hear the phone ring in the earpice. I only hear it from the P3600. I have 2 choises after that:
a.) If I push te Answer button on the P3600, the voice is on the P3600.
b.) If I push the Answer button on the BT HansFree then the voice is on the BT HansFree (but it will be disconnected after the call).
3.) The volume can not be changed if I use the BT HandsFree. That means, the volume slide bar can be moved/changed, but this has no effect to the volume in the BT HansFree.
In my opinion if the paaring is done and the BT HandsFree is switched on it should be always:
- connected
- an icon in the status line appear
- the voice in the BT HandsFree - independent if the answer button is pushed on the phone or on the BT HandsFree
For me is the BT HandsFree very imortant, and I am a litle bit disappointed, that a device for 500 Eur works that buggy with a technology that is almost 10 year old.
Hey Folks,
I have been reading some posts here about BT and/or BT Mute problems, but my issues seems to be a bit different, plust I didn't have it 1-2 Months ago, so I think it might be ROM/Radio upgrade related ...
Right now I am running udK Diamond R8 which works perfectly fine in general.
I got my phone hooked up via BT to my car BT handsfree (it's a Peugeot 207cc which uses some Parrot BT stuff I think). This used to work perfectly fine when I first started using the polaris in the car. I don't remember when the problem started to appear, but now, when I receive and accept an incoming call, it takes 4-5 seconds, till the polaris switches audio to handsfree, meaning after accepting the call, I can't hear the other party on my car speakers ... but I can hear sound from the regular polaris speaker, very quietly of course.
After those 4-5 seconds, everything is fine and the call is switched to the car handsfree set.
The BT connection to the car set is fine all the time ... no problems connecting or pairing.
Anyone experiencing similiar issues?
boba
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem with my C4 BT handsfree system (Parrot BT components) for some months ago. I have had a look at a lot of forum, but no answer and no solution.
Some days ago, I flash my HTC Polariswith the original WM6.1 Fre, but no improvement. I still have the same problem, 4/5 seconds before hearing the caller.
(PS : sorry for my poor english )
Bemi
Same for me, it worked fine before with the original ROM
ROM : 1.25.406.1 FRE dated 12/12/07
Radio : 1.58.21.23
Protocole : 25.65.30.04H
It happened suddenly.
I tryed a lot of modifications in the register, but no improvement.
I hoped to resolv this problem with the new original WM6.1 but no improvement.
Next week, Citroen will change the radio (it stops working many time a day).
I hope this will resolv the problem.
Bemi
I don't know excatelly the model, but it's the one with Bi-Tuner, BT, MP3 and without Navidrive.
Bemi
Same for me "and without Navidrive"
Probably the RD4
Bemi
Today, I tried several other mobiles (Samsung, Sony-Ericson, Eten, Alcatel) for my problem of delay with incoming calls.
All of them work properly and, as soon as I receive and accept an incoming call, the sound switches directly to the handsfree of the car.
So, what is the problem with my HTC Cruise ?
Any idea ?
Bemi
i'm having the same problem with a Sony DR-BT20NX headset
It has been working earlier.
But now , on incoming calls , the phone ring and later i ear a little signal in the bluetooth headset.
To accept the call , i've to use phone buttons ) .
The sound comes out the phone .I've to speak in the phone.
Otherwise i can listen music with the BT headset and make outgoing calls.
Rom : M-Amine 2.FRE
Radio : 1.59.42.15
( same problems with PDA viet Rom's V33 à V35 )
I don't remember if i've the problem since i've upgraded to radio 1.59.42.15 , sorry
Never had answers on differents forums ..
BT Joined Stereo
install advance config tool v3.3
go to BT setting
verify that your option is Joined stereo and not mono
I'm using udK Diamond R8. I had a lot of problems with my Parrot ck3100 carkit. It was finally resolved by installing the Murata 1.58.21.23 radio. With the for R8 recommended radio I had bad GSM reception, BT connection failure, random BT mute, Parrot displaying the call would continue when I in fact hang up etc.
Hi,
No change with Advanced Config Tools V3.3
Bemi
I have a different BT problem.
i am currently running Touch-IT m2d Beta. but i have always had this problem, even on the original official rom.
i pair my phone with a JVC KD-BT1 CD Head Unit in the car.
i sent this to HTC support (before i started flashing new roms to my cruise):
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HTC Touch Cruise. rom: 1.26.710.1 wwe radio: 1.58.21.23 protocol: 25.65.30.04h. bluetooth problem. when i have BT enabled on the htc, i get in the car and it pairs with my audio system. after i make the first call it disconnects (stops pairing) after the call is finished and then after 60 seconds, it pairs up again and i can make a call again. this happens after every call. i had a nokia and i-mate jasjam before with no problems whatsoever. any patch or update available?
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AND THIS WAS THEIR REPLY:
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Bluetooth should be universal or is marketed as universal although it is far from the truth. Certain chipsets conflict or are incompatible with others. If a device is not fully compatible it will not offer all features or possibly not connect at all. I have included the below for current tested devices.
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I DON'T think this is going to be fixed any time soon, so i'll live with it!
Hi every body.
I've got the same problem.
A Cruise Rev B, and a BT car's Kit (included in a peugeot, I thing a RD4/parrot stuff)
Actually my first call is ok, and then, heads phones are cutted (sometimes after 3 or 4 seconds), but my microphone still works.
My car's BT is still paired, and sometimes indicates that I'm still phoning, even if I've cutted it on my phone.
I'm happy to find some user's in the same "panade" than me, but I hope we will find a solution...
Who knows how it works and communicate?
It has to be radio problem.
Originally I had WM 6.0 Pro on my Polaris, and BT was working flawlessly.
Then I was stupid enough to upgrade to 6.1 WWE, and now I have all kind of trouble with BT connectivity. Downgrading back to 6.0 DID NOT help!
InSomNiaK said:
A Cruise Rev B, and a BT car's Kit (included in a peugeot, I thing a RD4/parrot stuff)
Actually my first call is ok, and then, heads phones are cutted (sometimes after 3 or 4 seconds), but my microphone still works.
My car's BT is still paired, and sometimes indicates that I'm still phoning, even if I've cutted it on my phone.
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I have exactly the same problem, based on a slightly different configuration:
My car is a Citroen (with the RD4/parrot factory built in BT)...
My phone is a HTC TyTNII.... with WM6 I couldnt even pair the phone, so I upgraded to WM6.1
Actually I had to drive to the workshop to cut the power on the car, because the parrot BT unit wouldnt stop even tho my phone was off in the meantime.
I start to believe this is not a problem caused by my phone, but a fault SW version on the parrot unit.
I have pioneer deh-p7000bt and it works flawlessly with my polaris in handsfree and a2dp mode.
to have better quality i have to turn srs wow hd off.
in advanced config i set:
-use joint stereo: no
-bitpool: very high
-max bitpool: 64
-min bitpool: 32
-sample rate: 44100
-audio getaway: enabled
Is there anyone who solved this problem yet? I have the exact same problem. When someone calls me, I cannot hear the other party through my car speakers (Citroën C5 newest model without navidrive)
I just tried http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ and this seemed to solve my problems. I had to restart my TC after installing this and removed the relationship in my car. After I made a new relationship (pairing) everything seems to work fine. If this changes I'll let you know.
I am having the same trouble, which started after upgrading to WM 6.1. Am I right in understanding that the Bluetooth is controlled by the Radio ROM and if so is it possible to downgrade just the Radio ROM? I think mine originally came with 1.58.25.14 and the upgrade replaced it with 1.59.42.15, is there a procedure to do this, and has anyone had any success.
Sorry had a search and found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600 which shows how to install just radio ROM, am just unclear as to whether you need to install Hard-SPL first as it is an official ROM and as to if changing radio clears all personal data from the phone.
I use to have a similar problem with the 4-5 second delay. i found that once the car is paired up with the phone, i ran bluetooth audio toggle, or other bluetooth audio program which makes all audio go through the vehicle all the time, including GPS navigation. This way when the phone rings, the ringtone can be heard through the speaker and when you answer it will be instantanious....... in theory.......... i mean, it worked for me anyway....
Then all you have to do is find some way to auto run the toggle everytime you pair your device to the vehicle...
i'm encountering problems with my DR-BT20NX
I can paired it without problem with my cruise ( A2DP working fine , managing software from my headset's button)
Listening music works fine
I can make outgoing calls
BUT
I cannot get incoming calls
On incoming calls :
my phone rings first on it's speaker then i can ear a little signal in my headset
the button of my headset don't works
i can't ear anything in my headset
i've to use the phone ( quite dangerous in a car)
I've been trying the latest rom's from Amine,Seya,Shekkar,Syrius,PDAViet and the latest radio : don't work
Downgrading to oldest radio : don't work
It has been working with original HTC Rom
It seems that this problem occurs since the latest W6.1 release ( bug Microsoft with bluetooth stack ? )
Has someone the same problem ?
Is there a way to fix this problem ?
I have the same problem.
have Someone any idea in order to solve it?
Thanks in advance
Has anyone got any suggestions regarding the following problem:
HTC Tattoo (UK Orange but flashed with stock ROM)
Nolia CK-1W Bluetooth in-car handsfree kit with Telemute harness(sound through car stereo)
Phone paired with system and connects perfectly every time I get in the car.
Outgoing calls work perfectly.
Incoming calls - mutes music on stereo, rings over stereo, pickup via phone or handsfree remote button NO SOUND from caller(though I can hear them on the phone speaker).
Seems to me that it's either a bug in the Bluetooth implementation on the phone or a setting I havent found. (It works fine with my Nokia E51)
Any ideas?
Thanks
Hi...!
I have the same Problems with my Nissan Car Headset from Factory with Android 2.1 and 2.2...! Similar Problems are with the HTC Wildfire and HTC Desire
I can connect the phone with the System, Phonebook reading, take calls and arrive calls but i cant hear anything (on both sides)
With my original Tattoo Rom 1.6 its working perfect and Audio Streaming too...
according to the German HTC Support the problem is well known and they are working to fix the problem... but i cant find other Android users with the same Problems except you
Why????
Thanks