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Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.
Can enyone tell me if it is possible and how??
I have a Parrot 3100 and works fine for calls but can't put it saying nothing that comes from TOMTOM.
I have a friend that one time he heard the tomtom on a head-set.
But only one time and never more.
He doesn't know how!
Can enyone help me?
seem to recall people saying it works if
gps is connected first and then headset
You need a bluetooth headset with AD2P proflie. The standard hards free profile will only route calls to the headset. That said, if you press the voice dial button on your headset when an instruction is being read out, you will hear it in the headset (once only) - probably what the friend experienced.
Hi. I use a piece of software with my standard bt handsfree.
Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router
The sound quality isn't stunning, but it lets all sounds that usually come from the inbuilt speaker to go through the handsfree instead
Tryed Chartcross Bluetooth Audio Router on my Trinity WM6 using hands free car kit (Delta System)... When activated it switches off the car speakers (like when calls arrive) but sounds still are on the speaker of pda...
Do you thing it will be necessary a reg tweak?
THX
No idea sorry. I only got my Trinity 2 days ago. I was using a prophet before which worked fine with it. I'll let you know if i do find anything though
IN MY HAND-FREE car kit my tomtom turned off the radio and instructions in car speakers.
right now that doesn't happen.
Infortunately i've tried so many roms i don't know i used at that time, and how make car speakers work again. Any help?
I've spent days searching and trying all sorts of tweaks but I can't get anything to work. Can anyone PLEASE help!
I use Tomtom 7 and I've always sent the voice instructions to the bluetooth speaker in my bike helmet (just a handsfree paired item). I've previously done this on HTC devices with BTAudio and a one line registry tweak. Can anyone offer a solution to send all the audio to a bluetooth handsfree on the HD2?
I really hope someone can help, I've got the HD2 setup just right except for this last remaining item.
Many thanks,
i have the same problem...
@noony i think u have already enabled in bt setting the option "manage system audio in handsfree device" if u didnt...try that
for me doesnt work maybe its a headphone problem i see a sort of "fhhh" when any sound is played on phone but still come out from the speeker
another issue... every time i start a call with bt the volume is at the lower level..internal and headphone too! and the last is very strange because with my artemis didnt do
xardus said:
i have the same problem...
@noony i think u have already enabled in bt setting the option "manage system audio in handsfree device" if u didnt...try that
for me doesnt work maybe its a headphone problem i see a sort of "fhhh" when any sound is played on phone but still come out from the speeker
another issue... every time i start a call with bt the volume is at the lower level..internal and headphone too! and the last is very strange because with my artemis didnt do
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Yes I've tried the "manage system audio in handsfree device" option. I can get some background noise on the headsets (I'm trying with a Scala Rider and Motorola 700 & 850) but I never manage to get any sound.
Can anyone please offer a solution? It's a big disappointment for me if this isn't possible. Any suggestions welcome, many thanks.
My Observations
I pared it with my BMW and for the life of me cant ger any audio (music) over bluetooth ( the phone works fine) I then tried it on a $20 bluetooth earpiece I ocassionally use for the phone and guess what I can play music over it fine.
I tried and tried again in the car but could not get it to work.
I think some bluetooth devices will not work. Is there a different specifiaation for bluetooth ir BT1 and BT2 ??
I havent checked into this yet.....
Fadetogrey said:
I pared it with my BMW and for the life of me cant ger any audio (music) over bluetooth ( the phone works fine) I then tried it on a $20 bluetooth earpiece I ocassionally use for the phone and guess what I can play music over it fine.
I tried and tried again in the car but could not get it to work.
I think some bluetooth devices will not work. Is there a different specifiaation for bluetooth ir BT1 and BT2 ??
I havent checked into this yet.....
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It gives me some hope that you've got it to work with one bluetooth device. Can you please let me know exactly what you did to get the $20 bluetooth earpiece to work?
Thanks,
yeah that was my idea but without a stereo bt device i cant try to myself...i ordered to vodafone one with some of my tons of points...3 weeks and no answer!
I had the same issue and on my old phone, the HTC Touch HD, I used the following program to my satisfaction:
BTAudio
On my HTC HD2 however this doesn't seem to work anymore. :-(
it does the same thing of the inbuild bt option on hd2 its just a "quick link" to place on the bar
anyone of u have any problem with bt device volume? before i have an Artemis and 3 different device i used the device volume was every time the one i choose...now every time a new call starts phone volume its right but device volume jump to minimum level and every time i have to press + button like as i'm playing videopoker to dont miss fist seconds of a conversation
Works fine with Jabra 3030, all audio over it, music, system sounds and calls.
Maybe it's only working for bluetooth devices that are setup as stereo. Can anyone please offer a solution here?
I've installed a 6.5 rom (dutty v7 - thank you) on my HD and after a sprite restore (level 2) bluetooth audio divert works fine. Although I notived that the bluetooth options remained the old settings (possibly due to my backup restore) and the divert was done using the BTAudio. Sorry to keep asking but if anyone can shed light on this.
Is it possible to tweak the HD2 so that audio can be sent to any bluetooth headset/handsfree or is there some hardware limitation that stops this from being done?
I've tried every app and tweak that I can think of! Please can anyone help, even iof it's to let me know why this can't be done.
Thanks,
its what we all are trying to do......now i think its only a bt device problem...if it support bt2.1 and a2dp with edr seems to work all good....
i solved in car with headphone in the box...but bluetooth should be much and much better without any cable that always have to remove nodes (its the right word? sorry if not hehe)
I'm connecting to my HD2 using Jabra Stone, an A2DP headset. When I selected the stereo headset profile on the HD2, it redirected all system sounds to the headset: reminders, SMS alert, soundtrack for videos, audio player....except phone ring. I used BT Audio over a non-A2DP headset before with Diamond2, but the ausio is very poor, and the connection drops very often. Since I changed to A2DP headsets, the Diamond2 and HD2 supports it out of the box - no hack needed.
So look for A2DP headsets if you want to redirect audio.
Thank you to everyone that has helped with replies. I've now got my answer. If the bluetooth device supports A2DP then it works! (just won't work with mono etc)
I've now tested my HD2 with over a dozen bluetooth devices ALL A2DP enabled headsets regardless of if they are cheap or expensive!
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to help.
I have an LG HBM-220 bluetooth and cannot put audio to in, only phone calls!
How can i manage to do it?
I blame it on the stupid Widcomm Bluetooth stack... If the HD2 used the better MS stack, BT would play nice with with more of our periphirals and apps
I can't use MSVC properly with BT either....
the solution is to go to the bluetooth settings, select your device and connect the stereo audio connection.
Way back, Microsoft decreed that ONLY the phone app could use a mono BlueTooth headset, although any audio could be redirected to a stereo A2DP headset.
In order to get around this you need to fudge the sytem with something like BTAudio or TekSoft's BlueAudio.
The latter worked on my XDA Orbits (1 and 2) but does not work on my Touch HD with Dutty's R6 ROM (WM 6.5) possibly because BlueAudio requires the Microsoft BlueTooth stack and I suspect Dutty's ROM has the Widcomm stack. But I could be wrong about that.
BTAudio sort of works on my Touch HD, but outgoing audio is speeded up like I've been breathing Helium.
So no current solution to yet another idiotic gotcha from Microsoft.
Noony said:
Thank you to everyone that has helped with replies. I've now got my answer. If the bluetooth device supports A2DP then it works! (just won't work with mono etc)
I've now tested my HD2 with over a dozen bluetooth devices ALL A2DP enabled headsets regardless of if they are cheap or expensive!
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to help.
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Hmmm. When I conect via gprs to youtube aps I can hear the voice in my mono headset (jabra 2020) but via wifi and computer as modem voice is only in phone speaker. So maybe we should look gprs or youtube aps reg tweek.
Guys
i have a nokia HB-100 headset and i'm experiencing all kinds of strange behavours
sometimes system sounds including music ...etc get directed to the headset and some other time it just directs calls no matter how hard i try thru soft resets or unchecking then checking the "play system sounds ..." option!
very strange, any insights about this? is there a tweak to go with or is it a known WM defect?
Hi,
I have a Touch 2 and I am having troubles conneting it to my Volvo BT carkit.
With my S730 evrything worked fine.
Now the phone paires with the car and syncs the adressbook, but when I initiate a call from the car or the phone, the carkit just doesnt know he is in a call and does not mute the radio. I don't hear any sound through the speakers at all, but the phone thinks it is connected to the carkit and is in handsfree. Pretty anoying as you can imagine.
I upgraded the car's BT stack to the latest version 04.23_R but with no result. Disabling the data connection worked for some people but not for me.
Do you guy's have any registry hacks or procedures I could try?
The old phone worked great so there at least should be some backwards compatibility.
Thanks,
Jan
I'm having much fun with my new Legend, and I love android 2.1!
Everythings goes smooth except the connection with my car.
I have a pretty new Audi TT from 2008, and with my old phone (t-mobile G1), I used it without a problem for over a year.
One month ago I bought the Legend, and bluetooth connection to the car seems to hang!, Even when I disable bluetooth, the phone becomes slow, and the bluetooth icoon keeps displaying in my notification erea.
One thing works, when I reset the phone, I can use the carkit for about 10 minutes, then it starts to disconnect. The adress book never syncs.
Can people please reply if they got their legend work properly with their bluetooth car kit.
Also when other people have problems, please reply here!
Thnx
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
Same problem here. Kenwood DDX7029 with BT. 5 out of 10 times the phone won't connect when starting the car. Dis- and enabling BT does the trick.
David67 said:
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
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This implies that if you disable data-roaming, it would work all the time?, I'm gonna try that out! Thanks for your reply!
Hi there. My first post in XDA
So cool that I found this thread because I have the exact same problem. I have an Audi A3 and the bluetooth connection is 9 out of 10 times lost during conversations and then the bluetooth icon just hangs until I boot the phone.
I'm gonna try to disable the data-roaming and see whether it works.
Still problem carkit/bluetooth Legend!!
Hi all,
I still/also experience problems with my Audi A4 carkit.
Also my colleague with a Opel Insignia experiencing the same problems.
I have to reset the bluetooth or reboot the phone te fix it
It is very annoying when you loose the bluetooth connection within a call.
I have already sent a message to HTC...and still waiting!
Switching off the data roaming or fix the UMTS/GSM settings doesn't help
Somebody a sollution?
Br Dide
Audi UHV 6654 problems
I have a BIG problem with this car kit connection...BIG means the device is useless till now.
I've paired the Legend with my A4 factory car kit and there are several problems:
1. No sounds come from the speakers (car speakers), still the michrophone is working fine. I had to put the phone on loudspeaker to hear something but of course this is not the normal way of using a car kit
2. There is no sound till the call is actually ongoing (the other party respond)...that means no ringing, busy tone, or whatsoever sound... I don't even know if the call is made if I'm not looking to the phone (and if it's entering power saving mode, I stare at a blank screen).
I don't have any problems of this kind using a Nokia phone and also they (especially point 2) are happening with all smartphones I've tried (WinMo or Android ones).
Is there any software (even a paid one) to outcome this?
Please don't tell me to "try" this and that, I don't want to spend money "trying" things...I would appreciate if someone had a similar problem and managed to solve it somehow.
P.S The phone is brand new (got it for 2 days by now) and it is not rooted.
P.S.2 The car kit is a "basic" one, don't have navigation, contacts downloading and all that stuff...It's a plain BT car kit, I would just like to be able to make and receive phone calls with it.
Seems like many have bad experience in making the legend and car kit work together.
As of yet I could only pair my legend with my blaupunkt audio system, but they have not yet connected each other successfully to make use of the bluetooth feature. I've had no problem at all using my audio set with my samsung galaxy spica's bluetooth. So it probably is not an android issue.
Is there anyone who didn't experience any such trouble with their legend and car audio system's bluetooth ?
To add some more details...
I search for BT devices, phone finds the Audi UHV car kit. Then I'm asked for the pairing password and I enter it, than I get that "connection sound" from the car speakers but the phone is still "connecting..." endlessly. The BT icon on the phone appears but is the standard one, no headset or car kit icon appears (does it have such an icon after all?)
From here...nothing special happens. When I make or receive a call only the phone is ringing, no sounds came from the car speakers. Only when the call is connected, then I have the bord computer showing "Call..." and the radio/CD is muted...and that's all. The conversation can be heard only into the phone not from car speakers as it was the case with the ringing tone before. When call ends, music resumes.