Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.
Related
I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.
Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom
It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre
I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit
Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.
My bluetooth turns itself off after a few min connected to my parrot car kit? any Clues?
ROM 1.35.255.2
Radio 1.18
which parrot model? I am looking for a bt install kit to go with my vario 2. Tried a motorola HT850, worked ok for about a 1hr test except the voice dial button did not activate the voice recognition on the vario 2. This works ok with my Jabra BT200 earpiece, when its not flat !! Hence why I want an installed unit!
timbouk said:
which parrot model? I am looking for a bt install kit to go with my vario 2. Tried a motorola HT850, worked ok for about a 1hr test except the voice dial button did not activate the voice recognition on the vario 2. This works ok with my Jabra BT200 earpiece, when its not flat !! Hence why I want an installed unit!
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I recently purchased the Parrot CK3200 from Amazon to go with my Vario II. It took about 10 minutes to install but that would depend upon the connections on the back of your car stereo. It mutes the stereo and uses the car speakers. It seems to work very well but I don't use the voice dialling so can't comment on that bit.
The only issue I occasionally have is if I leave the Vario BT on when I shut it down, it doesn't always pair when I turn it back on. It then needs me to turn BT off and on again in the comms manager in order to work. Its easy enough to tell when this has happened as I don't get the blue flashing light on the Vario.
any chance of you testing the voice dial (and voice control of opening applications etc if you knew you could do that!) through the parrot system?
Is the ck3200 the "advanced" one with the lcd display? What's your rom version etc....
Cheers in advance.
It is the one with the colour LCD display, I'll test the voice dial later on my drive home. I had no idea you could open application with voice commands, I guess perhaps I should read the instructions (only do this when all else fails).
My Vario II is running
ROM vs 1.21.110.3
Radio vs 1.05.05.00
The parrot is using version 2.03d
Update:- I tried the voice dialling earlier and can report the following.
Pressing the voice dial button on the Parrot triggered the Hermes to wait for a voice tag but using the Hermes microphone. As I drive quite a noisy van this was not successful. After setting up voice recognition on the Parrot and recording new voice tags the Parrot worked reliably but only using the voice tags saved on it not the Hermes.
To use the voice tags saved on the Hermes I now have to press the voice dial button on it rather than the Parrot. Not ideal as this does not automatically mute the stereo.
To conclude, the two pair reliably and if you don't mind recording new voice tags for the Parrot then voice dialling works very well. I also really like the way I can beam photos to the Parrot so that when friends call I get their picture on the screen.
same problem
tabackd said:
My bluetooth turns itself off after a few min connected to my parrot car kit? any Clues?
ROM 1.35.255.2
Radio 1.18
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I have exactly the same problem and I haven´t found solutiont yet. :-(
Bluetooth cutting out on me too
Never had a problem running my Nuvi 660 and Tytn with original ROM. Low and behold, I upgraded to 1.35 with 1.18 radio, and it started cutting out on me. It is driving me up a wall. I am now sorry I upgraded the ROM. I was debating reinstalling 1.04 bootloader and installing 1.21 radio (which I had installed with original Tytn Rom and no bluetooth problem) with 1.35 ROM. Any thoughts here would be appreciated.
I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.
Funky
Here's a fix I used on my old wizard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273990 This will keep bluetooth active when in standby,
Props to Funky B for the fix
Hi,
I have a Vodafone P3600 which I had unlocked and flashed to test both HTC WM5 and Faman WM6 3.3 and 3.4. I have a problem using it with my Parrot CK3100, and it's the following: devices pair perfectly, but when I leave my car and then return, most of times P3600 does not connect with handsfree. Sometimes, it does connect, but after a long time. This occurs with any OS version I have tested.
A problem with CK3100 is discarded because I have flashed it with latest software version, and it was tested with a HP RW6815.
I tried disabling power saving, setting bluetooth as discoverable, installing Jetware, but nothing made it work as it should.
I'm near to sell my P3600 and buy a new HTC Touch only to solve this problem, because I need much a handsfree working in my car.
Can any of you give a hint of what the problem could be?
Thanks.
I forgot to say that if I power on my HTC, it always connect to the Parrot. But when it's in standby sometimes connects and others no.
I have an SonyEricsson HBH-DS200 and this works unfortunately with the P3600 also in a from you described way. I tryed AWE and PDAVIET and also AX3L ROMs.
Other points and problems with BT HandsFree are:
1.) A litle icon to show that the BT HansFree is connected will be showed in the status only after the first paaring. After that, nothing shows you, that the BT HansFree is connected (and therefor can be used) or not.
2.) After a phone call the BT HandsFree will be disconnected.That meanns, that I can not hear the phone ring in the earpice. I only hear it from the P3600. I have 2 choises after that:
a.) If I push te Answer button on the P3600, the voice is on the P3600.
b.) If I push the Answer button on the BT HansFree then the voice is on the BT HansFree (but it will be disconnected after the call).
3.) The volume can not be changed if I use the BT HandsFree. That means, the volume slide bar can be moved/changed, but this has no effect to the volume in the BT HansFree.
In my opinion if the paaring is done and the BT HandsFree is switched on it should be always:
- connected
- an icon in the status line appear
- the voice in the BT HandsFree - independent if the answer button is pushed on the phone or on the BT HandsFree
For me is the BT HandsFree very imortant, and I am a litle bit disappointed, that a device for 500 Eur works that buggy with a technology that is almost 10 year old.
Using the Touch HD with a builtin bluetooth car kit. Everything works fine, the phone's contact list displays on the screen of the car. The pairing went fine. Call history works. Happy me. But occasionally i notice after making a call via the car (after hangup) the connection disappears and i check the phone. Bluetooth is switched off!!! How can this be? Are there any settings i have missed?
Any other users experience this?
same here with my bt handsfree
what if you connect it to powersupply ?
with power : working
without power : after some minutes off
sometimes I can not access the contactlist, stop the car, remove the key, start again and it works
There is something wrong with BT + car
I've had my HD a couple of days and use it with the built in BT in my Audi. The car displayed "telephone is not connected" and when I checked the phone, no BT icon. I've had problems in the past with other makes not working very well like this and was thinking it was going to be the same here... As I was getting annoyed a call came in, rang for about half a ring on the phone then it reconnected to the car and continued ringing there, answered the call just fine.
Since then it's done the same thing twice, I'd prefer it didn't but it hasn't actually caused a problem yet.
BT shuts off by itself.
I seem to be having the same problem in my Audi Q7. It does not make a difference weather to be connected to a power supply or not.
Im having the same issue here, in my A4 Cab with integrated UHV 0420
Strange thing is, it doesnt disconnect from my works Parrott kit.
It does turn off the Bluetooth on the phone, strange. It didnt happen for the first week though.
Any ideas?
Bloke
same here. having problems with my Land Rover LR2. first week, there were no problems. now, the phone doesn't automatically connect when i start the car, i have t manually connect it by pressing the phone button on my dashboard. it then connects with no problem. however, when i try to place a call, it automatically disconnects the bluetooth.
not sure if this is a problem with the htc or my car; i have to try another phone with the car first.
Same happens in my Lamboughini and also my Mercedes- Benz E Class.
Looks like I'll just have to stick with my roller from now on!!!!
I see I'm not the only one with this problem. Soooo...... anyone got a fix?
Please, at least have you checked for a few seconds after the disconnect to see what happened ??
Well, I have a BMW S1 with in-car bluetooth. I previously owned an S200, SE K800i and a Touch Pro and never got any problems with those phones.
With HD Touch I also have the same problems like you people, but 2 or 3 seconds later the BMW regain the connection with my HD.
So, for me this is no big deal. If this only happens to me, then I'm the first to apologize my introduction on this post, if not... lol
Im sure its not related, but I installed the hotfix for the TF3d earlier and I didnt have any disconnects on the way home....... ????? Go HTC.....
Bloke
yesterday i installed the hotfix from htc, but today i lost bluetooth connection again in the car. The bluetooth in the car keeps functioning, but the bluetooth on the HD has deactivated itself! With my previous sony ericsson phone (also bluetoot 2.0) i didn't have this problem. So i think it's related to the bluetoothsoftware on the HD.
bloke said:
Im sure its not related, but I installed the hotfix for the TF3d earlier and I didnt have any disconnects on the way home....... ????? Go HTC.....
Bloke
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I spoke too soon, it disconnected this morning and didnt reconnect....
Bloke
Have a look at this thread - also bluetooth problems with pairing issues - looks like BT maybe bugged
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442987&highlight=bluetooth+problems
Hello,
I have the same problem. I can not really use bluetooth in my car, because the Touch HD ends the connection after a few minutes (most times after less than five minutes).
Without a connection to the car, bluetooth will not be ended by the Touch HD, so it seems to be a problem of a connection to a bluetooth headset or a problem of a connection only to a car bluetooth "headset".
Regards
Thomas
Does this only apply to original built-in bluetooth kits and not after-market kits?
My BT-radio does not have problems with the Touch HD, but it is an after-market radio.
Same problem here. My connections drops also. I drive an Opel Zafira with builtin bluetooth carkit. Bluetooth is turned off after a while.
I've noticed when i start the car a connection is made and a few seconds later bluetooth is turned off and immediatly turned on again. After it's turned on, the connection is stable for a while. A few moments later it turns off again. Then i have turn the bluetooth connection manually.
Today i had a phone confercation for a half hour. The connection stayed stable. When i hang up the phone, the connection dropped .
Can the synchronisation of the phonebook be the problem? I had this problem with my p3600. After installing Jetware, the problem was solved. I've installed Jetware on my HD, but with no luck .
Is there a way to log the bluetooth communication. May be it tell us more
Indeed the HD bluetooth seems to be poor, I also experienced bluetooth switching off by it self when trying to pair with my Motorola S9 headphones, I have the hotfix installed, before I didn't notice this bluetooth behavior.
Also when exiting Opera the phone hangs, not always but sometimes
Anyone solved the problem yet
I send a email to HTC support. Hopefully they can help. If they answer......word goes arround that htc support sucks
still don't have a solution.........
I'm having much fun with my new Legend, and I love android 2.1!
Everythings goes smooth except the connection with my car.
I have a pretty new Audi TT from 2008, and with my old phone (t-mobile G1), I used it without a problem for over a year.
One month ago I bought the Legend, and bluetooth connection to the car seems to hang!, Even when I disable bluetooth, the phone becomes slow, and the bluetooth icoon keeps displaying in my notification erea.
One thing works, when I reset the phone, I can use the carkit for about 10 minutes, then it starts to disconnect. The adress book never syncs.
Can people please reply if they got their legend work properly with their bluetooth car kit.
Also when other people have problems, please reply here!
Thnx
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
Same problem here. Kenwood DDX7029 with BT. 5 out of 10 times the phone won't connect when starting the car. Dis- and enabling BT does the trick.
David67 said:
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
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This implies that if you disable data-roaming, it would work all the time?, I'm gonna try that out! Thanks for your reply!
Hi there. My first post in XDA
So cool that I found this thread because I have the exact same problem. I have an Audi A3 and the bluetooth connection is 9 out of 10 times lost during conversations and then the bluetooth icon just hangs until I boot the phone.
I'm gonna try to disable the data-roaming and see whether it works.
Still problem carkit/bluetooth Legend!!
Hi all,
I still/also experience problems with my Audi A4 carkit.
Also my colleague with a Opel Insignia experiencing the same problems.
I have to reset the bluetooth or reboot the phone te fix it
It is very annoying when you loose the bluetooth connection within a call.
I have already sent a message to HTC...and still waiting!
Switching off the data roaming or fix the UMTS/GSM settings doesn't help
Somebody a sollution?
Br Dide
Audi UHV 6654 problems
I have a BIG problem with this car kit connection...BIG means the device is useless till now.
I've paired the Legend with my A4 factory car kit and there are several problems:
1. No sounds come from the speakers (car speakers), still the michrophone is working fine. I had to put the phone on loudspeaker to hear something but of course this is not the normal way of using a car kit
2. There is no sound till the call is actually ongoing (the other party respond)...that means no ringing, busy tone, or whatsoever sound... I don't even know if the call is made if I'm not looking to the phone (and if it's entering power saving mode, I stare at a blank screen).
I don't have any problems of this kind using a Nokia phone and also they (especially point 2) are happening with all smartphones I've tried (WinMo or Android ones).
Is there any software (even a paid one) to outcome this?
Please don't tell me to "try" this and that, I don't want to spend money "trying" things...I would appreciate if someone had a similar problem and managed to solve it somehow.
P.S The phone is brand new (got it for 2 days by now) and it is not rooted.
P.S.2 The car kit is a "basic" one, don't have navigation, contacts downloading and all that stuff...It's a plain BT car kit, I would just like to be able to make and receive phone calls with it.
Seems like many have bad experience in making the legend and car kit work together.
As of yet I could only pair my legend with my blaupunkt audio system, but they have not yet connected each other successfully to make use of the bluetooth feature. I've had no problem at all using my audio set with my samsung galaxy spica's bluetooth. So it probably is not an android issue.
Is there anyone who didn't experience any such trouble with their legend and car audio system's bluetooth ?
To add some more details...
I search for BT devices, phone finds the Audi UHV car kit. Then I'm asked for the pairing password and I enter it, than I get that "connection sound" from the car speakers but the phone is still "connecting..." endlessly. The BT icon on the phone appears but is the standard one, no headset or car kit icon appears (does it have such an icon after all?)
From here...nothing special happens. When I make or receive a call only the phone is ringing, no sounds came from the car speakers. Only when the call is connected, then I have the bord computer showing "Call..." and the radio/CD is muted...and that's all. The conversation can be heard only into the phone not from car speakers as it was the case with the ringing tone before. When call ends, music resumes.