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Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.

Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom

It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre

I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit

Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Atom's Bluetooth Functionalities

I have upgraded my ROM to the latest official one, but still I can't make my ITech's PowBOX bluetooth HeadSet to work as Wireless Stereo. It only works as Hands Free. I tried my HeadSet on Nokia and did works as headset flawlessly. I also cannot activate my voice speed dial via bluetooth on my Atom. The bluetooth button just activate redialling last called number. Is there anything I need to configure to make this work? Please help. Thank you.

Anyone, please?

I use the iTech S35 and STEREO works like a charm with the Atom. I get stereo mp3 and movies. The handsfree works too although the voice dial doesn't cos the long press to activate the voice dial uses the button to turn the iTech on and off so u will end up turning the iTech off.
not heard of the iTech powBOX so dun know how it compares but I assume it should work too.

i think it used to work in older ROM version... could it be the new ROM?

I use Samsung Bluetooth SBH100 as a stereo headset with Atom (latest ROM) - got no problems. Headset's remote control buttons for audio player works too. Short press of Phone button make a redial. 4 sec press should activate voice dail (on 'supported devices'), but make nothing (common problem).

can the SBH100 play radio?

touraco said:
can the SBH100 play radio?
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Don't think so as Atom requires the ear piece to be plugin as antenna...

I am using Bluetake Iphono BT stereo headset on Atom. It can listen to the music and act as handsfree for calls seperately but couldn't do both at the same time, the headset will switch off whenever there is incoming call while playing music, i guess there's some problem on switching btw.
Anyone got the same problem??

can't listen to music but can make calls
Hi,
I'm kind of new here, as I just bought a used atom from that e*** auction site. it works great, except i can't get my bluetooth headset to work as a headphone while listening to podcast, mp3's, etc. using my BT headset to make calls works fine. I have both a Jabra BT130 and BT350 and both have this problem. is it the headset? if so, is there a list somewhere that lists what BT headset is compatible? i really need it to work as I cannot stand using wired headsets since by the time i untangle those wires, I'm out of time already...
thanks a lot!

It's the New Rom..(i think)
Knightro said:
I have upgraded my ROM to the latest official one, but still I can't make my ITech's PowBOX bluetooth HeadSet to work as Wireless Stereo. It only works as Hands Free. I tried my HeadSet on Nokia and did works as headset flawlessly. I also cannot activate my voice speed dial via bluetooth on my Atom. The bluetooth button just activate redialling last called number. Is there anything I need to configure to make this work? Please help. Thank you.
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the problem comes with the new rom i think.. i had a bluetooth headset that worked perfectly before i uograded to the new Roms released by O2 itself.. i emailed them about the problem but they insist that nothing is wrong with the ROMs they made...

TyTN bluetooth car kit issues

Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.

Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul

Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?

I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!

Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)

Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version

My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.

.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.

Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...

Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers

rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.

I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.

tytn and BT

Is there any possible way to repair the BT annoying thing?
I've got a Parrto BT set in my car and the tytn disconnects all the time, when I achieve the connections I cannot transfer my contacts...
Thanks for your help

Hi,
Which model of Parrot car kit is it? I use the CK3100 (the one with the LCD) and it works except for the usual TyTN switching BT off when it disconnects from the Parrot after stopping the car. Sync works fine.
Might also be worth looking in the Parrot forums at http://www.driveblue.com/
Gav.

Parrot
I also have the 3100!!
When I get into the car it doesn't recognize me. I need to go to congiguration and establish the link, the it seems that it starts to sinchronize the agenda but it doesn't!!!

Hi again.
Is there any chance you have the power cables to the Parrot CK3100 the wrong way round? If that is the case then the Parrot CK3100 will forget the pairing to your phone and you will need to re-pair everytime. The easiest way to fix this is to reverse the wires at the fuse.
Basically there are 2 wires on the Parrot Parrot CK3100, one perminent to the battery for saving the memory and the other is the ignition. When the ignition goes to 12v then the Parrot CK3100 powers on and tries to connect to the phones in its pairing memory list (upto 5).
Do you know which firmware is on your Parrot CK3100? The latest is 4.15b > it's under the Advance menu.
Gav.

Don't think so
I don't think so because it worked perfectly well with my Blackberry!

Got my TyTN yesterday (had a Wizard) and so far it works just fine with my CK3100. Syncs nice and fast and connects within 10 seconds. I did install Jetware mobile extender to make the display a little better. Haven't experienced the TyTN turning BT off yet...

Hi Pablete,
Strange. I can only suggest re-pairing and updating the Parrot to the latest firmware rev.
Hi Scott,
What advantage does Jetware mobile extender give?
Gav.

Jetware changes the "network OK" to the real network name, adds signal and battery bars, adds the phone ringtone instead of the Parrot ringtone and several other cool features.
Edit: the URL... http://www.jetwaremobile.com/

problem BT and voice dial
when i push green button on parrot, no voice dialling possible tru speakers?
Any solutions.
If i use (new) voice dial 1.6 (which reads sms) same things happen and additionally when i use dial a number i even can not confirm?
anybody a solution
thanx in advance

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when i push green button on parrot, no voice dialling possible tru speakers?
Any solutions.
If i use (new) voice dial 1.6 (which reads sms) same things happen and additionally when i use dial a number i even can not confirm?
anybody a solution
thanx in advance
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Not completely sure I understand the question? If you meant to ask if it is possible to do voice dialing in the carkit instead of the phone then head to the voice commands menu, and in the bottom you'll find an option to change where voice commands are processed; carkit or phone.

i meant when i push the parrot green button the application voice dialer switches on on my TYTN, but no beep can be heared tru the car speakers?
with the newest cyberon voice dialler i can not confirm or redial, even if used outside the car?
Any suggestions

Problem with bluetooth handsfree

Hi,
I have a Vodafone P3600 which I had unlocked and flashed to test both HTC WM5 and Faman WM6 3.3 and 3.4. I have a problem using it with my Parrot CK3100, and it's the following: devices pair perfectly, but when I leave my car and then return, most of times P3600 does not connect with handsfree. Sometimes, it does connect, but after a long time. This occurs with any OS version I have tested.
A problem with CK3100 is discarded because I have flashed it with latest software version, and it was tested with a HP RW6815.
I tried disabling power saving, setting bluetooth as discoverable, installing Jetware, but nothing made it work as it should.
I'm near to sell my P3600 and buy a new HTC Touch only to solve this problem, because I need much a handsfree working in my car.
Can any of you give a hint of what the problem could be?
Thanks.

I forgot to say that if I power on my HTC, it always connect to the Parrot. But when it's in standby sometimes connects and others no.

I have an SonyEricsson HBH-DS200 and this works unfortunately with the P3600 also in a from you described way. I tryed AWE and PDAVIET and also AX3L ROMs.
Other points and problems with BT HandsFree are:
1.) A litle icon to show that the BT HansFree is connected will be showed in the status only after the first paaring. After that, nothing shows you, that the BT HansFree is connected (and therefor can be used) or not.
2.) After a phone call the BT HandsFree will be disconnected.That meanns, that I can not hear the phone ring in the earpice. I only hear it from the P3600. I have 2 choises after that:
a.) If I push te Answer button on the P3600, the voice is on the P3600.
b.) If I push the Answer button on the BT HansFree then the voice is on the BT HansFree (but it will be disconnected after the call).
3.) The volume can not be changed if I use the BT HandsFree. That means, the volume slide bar can be moved/changed, but this has no effect to the volume in the BT HansFree.
In my opinion if the paaring is done and the BT HandsFree is switched on it should be always:
- connected
- an icon in the status line appear
- the voice in the BT HandsFree - independent if the answer button is pushed on the phone or on the BT HandsFree
For me is the BT HandsFree very imortant, and I am a litle bit disappointed, that a device for 500 Eur works that buggy with a technology that is almost 10 year old.