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I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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Etheralrealm said:
I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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Unless you're worried about the security updates, just stay on PN. PN for Oreo should be out soon as well.
That makes a lot of sense, thanks.
Etheralrealm said:
I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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I was on PN since I got my 6P and updated to Oreo as soon as it came out. I don't regret the decision at all. Battery life is as good or better than PN (I routinely end the day with 4+ hours of SOT and 35-40% left. Your experience may vary depending on usage), performance is wonderful, and I haven't found any major bugs yet. All of my favorite mods work (EX kernel, Pixel mod, Camera NX, WakeBlock, and a few others I'm forgetting).
The only downside is some modifications require a bit more work. For example, to resize the navigation bar and add dynamic coloring I had to extract, modify, and push framework-res.apk instead of having those options built right into the settings menu. There's no custom quick settings tiles and I can't change the number of rows/columns, but that isn't a big deal and I've learned to live without it for now.
As stated above PN based on Oreo should be out within the next month or two. Beans posted an announcement on G+ yesterday explaining that he had a family emergency that slowed down development on PN O, but he is actively working on it as much as he can.
Etheralrealm said:
I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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I went from PN to 8.1. Honestly, stick with PN. I used it for a couple days and I am downgrading right now. My battery life was significantly worse (on 7.1.2 I ended the day at ~40-50% battery. On 8.1 I was at ~20-30). I didn't notice anything great about Oreo and found myself missing PN.
Poebat said:
I went from PN to 8.1. Honestly, stick with PN. I used it for a couple days and I am downgrading right now. My battery life was significantly worse (on 7.1.2 I ended the day at ~40-50% battery. On 8.1 I was at ~20-30). I didn't notice anything great about Oreo and found myself missing PN.
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Maybe your battery is just getting tired I'm finding the opposite Oreo 8.1 giving me excellent results.
Exodusche said:
Maybe your battery is just getting tired I'm finding the opposite Oreo 8.1 giving me excellent results.
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Might be Xposed then. My sot dropped by 1.5hrs.
Poebat said:
Might be Xposed then. My sot dropped by 1.5hrs.
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I'm gonna go back and try Pure Nexus again now that I have a new battery I could use extra 1.5 hours.
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I'm gonna go back and try Pure Nexus again now that I have a new battery I could use extra 1.5 hours.
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Good luck.
Not sure aware of this or not, but beans posted in the PN thread he's working on Oreo for the angler. So you'll soon have the best of both.
Poebat said:
I went from PN to 8.1. Honestly, stick with PN. I used it for a couple days and I am downgrading right now. My battery life was significantly worse (on 7.1.2 I ended the day at ~40-50% battery. On 8.1 I was at ~20-30). I didn't notice anything great about Oreo and found myself missing PN.
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Hey man, how did your downgrading go? I had the intention of downgrading today but somewhere messed up and now my phone is in a bootloop. What steps did you take?
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Ritser said:
Hey man, how did your downgrading go? I had the intention of downgrading today but somewhere messed up and now my phone is in a bootloop. What steps did you take?
Thanks!
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I had that issue too. Spent waaaayyy to long trying to figure it out. I think 8.1 has a different encryption method. You need to wipe the phone completely and then do a nandroid restore (or flash PN)
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I had that issue too. Spent waaaayyy to long trying to figure it out. I think 8.1 has a different encryption method. You need to wipe the phone completely and then do a nandroid restore (or flash PN)
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Don't mean to sound like a complete noob, but how did you go on about wiping the phone completely? I've now tried so many things, reflashing TWRP, reinstalling stock firmwares, using Wug's Nexus Rooting kit, ... I can acces fastboot, what do I need to do to be able to reinstall TWRP? Because when I try it right now, I can't acces it. It goes back into the boot loop.
Cheers
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Don't mean to sound like a complete noob, but how did you go on about wiping the phone completely? I've now tried so many things, reflashing TWRP, reinstalling stock firmwares, using Wug's Nexus Rooting kit, ... I can acces fastboot, what do I need to do to be able to reinstall TWRP? Because when I try it right now, I can't acces it. It goes back into the boot loop.
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In TWRP, format /Data and the internal storage. I also formatted /system just to be safe.
I have the habit of always asking on a new device no matter how much I think I know!
I have an xt1635-02 (I am US ATT Prepaid)(nano SIM) supposedly here tomorrow so I've been reading tons here.
However, it seems that a lot of the threads are aimed at rooting stock, which I never do.
As a rule, it's trivial:
[!] In this case it seems best to OTA update stock to 7.1.1 if it isn't already. I believe bootloader must be 7.x.x for doing custom Oreo ROMs . Since mine was 6.0 it took about 8 updates OTA and maybe 2 hours(wifi) .
[!]I go to moto site and do the unlock bootloader dance (already carrier unlocked supposedly).
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
[!]Then flash twrp-3.2.1-0-addison.img (Alberto97) using fastboot on my PC. (Ubuntu 17.10 dev 18.04 with adb and fastboot)(dual boot win7)
I do this twice in a row as I have experienced it not working the first time (dead android LOL).(OCD much??? )
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-unofficial-twrp-moto-z-play-t3495629
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[!] -->then flash Alberto's verity patch mentioned at the top of his TWRP thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-unofficial-twrp-moto-z-play-t3495629
This modifies stock. Else your backups of stock won't boot. Learned this the hard way!
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[!]Then use TWRP to backup (default settings) stock a couple of times and put copies of both on PC (via USB on stock).(or if for some reason my USB-C doesn't work, via wifi to my router using filezilla FTP and phone app: "wifi file transfer" by "DNL Media UG"(needs permission storage=on..) - I had to redo this twice - redo this twice - kept dropping back to stock recovery.
[!]Then flash the boot logo using fastboot on PC - I usually use TWRP for this but these that I found here are not set up to be TWRP flash compat so will just remove bin from zip and flash using PC. I think I have about 4 possibilities that I found on these threads. Nice! Easy.
[!]Then boot to TWRP and flash Alberto97's AOSP 8.1 arm64 ROM. Why that ROM you may ask. Been using mainly that Alberto97 ROM on my Moto G3 (32bit version of course), and love it. There's plenty of time to try all the others!!!
I usually consider 2 root options; SuperSU 2.82-SR5, or majisk 1520. (for future readers, these are the latest at this time.)(besides I'm very used to them.)
With SuperSU I have had no probs wiping all 4(Dalvik/ART, system, data, cache), flash ROM, flash 8.1 gapps, flash SUperSU, and boot to install.
With majisk I have sometimes had troubles during install if I flash majisk in the first batch so I tend to wipe all 4, flash ROM and gapps, and boot to install. Then when I finally hit desktop, boot back to TWRP and flash 1520 and reboot.
I need root to use TBPro - no restoring on first time with this 64bit ROM- got to do it the hard way!
SO I believe that's it, but if anyone sees a flaw or problem in there, I would appreciate your help.
Thanks!!!
yep look right, i would have added backup EFS and Modem partitions, if you want to be completely safe.
For now, open gapps 8.1 are only unofficial, i would feel a bit unsecure to use that, but it's only me.
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yep look right, i would have added backup EFS and Modem partitions, if you want to be completely safe.
For now, open gapps 8.1 are only unofficial, i would feel a bit unsecure to use that, but it's only me.
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Merci! Many thanks for looking in!!!
Yes, forgot to add that - did much xda search on the efs thing and best I found seemed to be a twrp-3.1.1-0-EFS-addison.img which I may very well flash first and do that since no other TWRP that I looked at offers backup efs. Official and squid2 derived (G3) don't. I assume Alberto's doesn't. Seems like I did it very manually on the G3. If you have it it's a pretty good guarantee that you'll never need it! (Murphy axiom)
As to unofficial gapps, I've been testing about 5 different 8.1 ROMs on the Moto G3 over the past couple months and if the gapps aren't built in to the ROM(some pixelexperience roms), all you can get is an unofficial gapps, or do a minor simple hack to an 8.0 so it will accept it. Usually devs will include it. Bless Alberto97 for not including it so I can select my own!!! But I've had no prob with gapps. Open gapps project has 8.0, but of course they won't work on a true 8.1 unless minor hack. I was planning on using open_gapps-arm64-8.1-aroma-20180109-UNOFFICIAL.zip (from https://cloud.kenzoroms.club/?dir=opengapps) unless you have a better idea. I wanted to grab camera from aroma(somebody's idea), but I also have about 5 other cameras and gcams waiting on the Sdcard that I want to test, simply because there seemed to be disagreement on what works on Alberto's new 8.1 build, so wanted to be able to report.
Thanks again!
backup efs / adb way : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/2zq0ff/friendly_reminder_back_up_your_efs_partition_if/
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backup efs / adb way : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/2zq0ff/friendly_reminder_back_up_your_efs_partition_if/
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Thanks for great link! yeah I think I used adb as well as an app last time. I'll add recovery this time so that's 3 backups on internal storage (and copied to PC) should be enough! (yes dear readers I am serious about this - 3 times! They are so tiny! And that pretty much guarantees I'll never need it, but if I do, it's childs play to get it back.)
Thanks!!!
If you're wondering about the delay, they sent me a -01 (Droid)(Murphy's law), so they paid for a UPS next day air label back to them(mailed at 4PM) - don't know if I'll get this going before Sat! Oh well!!! Never take these things too seriously!!! Gotta be costing them a chunk! I did briefly turn it on and stuck the SIM in it and it did show LTE on my ATT, but there's a few bands missing that are on the -02, so will wait. Pretty display, though!!! Really looking forward to it!!!
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If you're wondering about the delay, they sent me a -01 (Droid)(Murphy's law), so they paid for a UPS next day air label back to them(mailed at 4PM) - don't know if I'll get this going before Sat! Oh well!!! Never take these things too seriously!!! Gotta be costing them a chunk! I did briefly turn it on and stuck the SIM in it and it did show LTE on my ATT, but there's a few bands missing that are on the -02, so will wait. Pretty display, though!!! Really looking forward to it!!!
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Good plan on sending it back. You would have been SOL trying to root the -01
dandrumheller said:
Good plan on sending it back. You would have been SOL trying to root the -01
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Yes! I learned about 5 or 6 phones ago NOT to re-invent the wheel!!!
KrisM22 said:
Yes! I learned about 5 or 6 phones ago NOT to re-invent the wheel!!!
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Okay, refund for that and order another from somebody else! Next week...!
The only thing is no moto mods on non stock (any thing past 7.1.1 or aosp) roms
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The only thing is no moto mods on non stock (any thing past 7.1.1 or aosp) roms
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yes. stock 8.x is a no-no. This one that is coming is 6.0.1 So I will let it ota update to 7.1.1 after giving it a thorough check-out, then try unlocking it, etc. Sound right? I have no interest in any of the hardware-type addons, just the plain phone 3/32 octacore etc. Why this one? - I love the reception (radio) strength of Motos, plus a ton of other things. I stick with them. Plus it's all Albeto97's fault for deving on AOSP 8.1
Lol Alberto97's roms are buttery smooth!
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Lol Alberto97's roms are buttery smooth!
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I think they are. He recently came out with an 8.1 AOSP version for the Moto G3 and I love it. I test others, but that's my daily driver. Sure not perfect, but quite good enough for me!!! So I figure when I get it (Tues?) that's what I'll put on it. There's always plenty of time to test others!
Okay, since I am waiting for phone (Tues) , obviously I am worried about "what-if"s and so researching on what to do, "if".
I succeeded in finding a nice zip for 7.1.1 with the Nov security patch
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto Z Play/Stock/
(I am US)(there are many others at that nice site!!!)
That took a lot of time.
Then I needed to be sure that I could get RSD lite to run, and tried and tried to no avail to get it to recognize my phone (even on my laptop) (I was testing with an old Moto G3 stock zip and my G3 phone) before some post gave me a version number much higher than at the RSD site. google gave me:
http://rsdlite.en.lo4d.com/
version 6.2.4, which worked perfectly.
I really need to write a short guide on this stuff - feels like I'm re-inventing the wheel, even though many folks have written much before I came along!
The reason for the above two is that for a while the last few days I kept running into folks who had taken 7 OTA and wound up with a bricked phone. So, yes, I just did a search for "brick" on xda in moto z play and will start reading them! LOL
Quick EDIT: I think I am wrong in that brick assumption - the first 3 I looked at involved encryption and 2 downgrades to MM (which is a no-no). I will read further.
edit2 - nevermind - most are downgrading to MM. Wish folks would just ask before doing that. That is a no-no of most (all?) phones. -
Hi,
Please share your camera result using Alberto97's roms. I some ROM but i dont like camera result, i think stock ROM still better in camera.
Thank You
wakhidnusa said:
Hi,
Please share your camera result using Alberto97's roms. I some ROM but i dont like camera result, i think stock ROM still better in camera.
Thank You
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YES! Will do. I have about 5 cameras that I want to try though I will stop at the first one that works. Phone should be here today.
wakhidnusa said:
Hi,
Please share your camera result using Alberto97's roms. I some ROM but i dont like camera result, i think stock ROM still better in camera.
Thank You
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I have no problem with various cameras getting good image, but sometimes on still first pic doesn't save. ( tried camera MX and Professional camera hd. I'm sure lots work about the same.)
Forgot to flash Alberto's verity patch right after flashing TWRP. So I had to RSD lite 7.1.1 Nov 1 and start over - no big deal! OP corrected.
Hello Kris,
I would like to ask for a link where I can download a working RSD so I can unlocked my bootloader.
Thanks
jeprox said:
Hello Kris,
I would like to ask for a link where I can download a working RSD so I can unlocked my bootloader.
Thanks
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link to 6.2.4 is in the first post of
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-rsd-lite-mini-guide-t3740641#post75334194
Hello All,
Maybe i have missed this same question somewhere in the thousands of post and search just give random threads of rooting in general. My question out to all the TMO variant users that have rooted their 6T. I have not rooted any phone since the Galaxy note 5 as I just fell out of the rooting as most apps these days did for the most part everything I need. Some things cant but i lived without. Anyway.. To all those 6T TMO users and rooted. What and why did you root your 6T? Elaborate in like apps you used that needs root. Maybe if I get enough people listing useful items that need root and cant be done with an unrooted 6T. I may jump back into rooting again.
Thanks in advance..
O. if there is another thread similiar to this one regarding the TMO 6T. Please link it here.
My List of Reasons:
DriftorX said:
Hello All,
Maybe i have missed this same question somewhere in the thousands of post and search just give random threads of rooting in general. My question out to all the TMO variant users that have rooted their 6T. I have not rooted any phone since the Galaxy note 5 as I just fell out of the rooting as most apps these days did for the most part everything I need. Some things cant but i lived without. Anyway.. To all those 6T TMO users and rooted. What and why did you root your 6T? Elaborate in like apps you used that needs root. Maybe if I get enough people listing useful items that need root and cant be done with an unrooted 6T. I may jump back into rooting again.
Thanks in advance..
O. if there is another thread similiar to this one regarding the TMO 6T. Please link it here.
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I picked up my 6t on the 10th and i am currently waiting for my unlock token to unlock my bootloader, the reasons why i would take the time to root are as follow.
(P.S. Going to make this as neat as possible for those who just want a list of reasons instead of rambling)
Reasons:
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* Magisk Modules
* Custom ROMs or/and Kernels
* TWRP Backups
* Kernel Auditor Edits (Battery Life or More Performance)
* Edit System files for what you need (Customization)
* Get the most out of what your phone can do.
* Audio Mods (Viper or Dolby Atmos)
* Adaway (I've never really seen in action but i think it is for Chrome or internet apps)
* Youtube Vanced (Non-Rooted users have this as well but with rooted users there are updates to the app right when they come out)
When you root your device you truly can do what you want, I use to own a V20 (LG) and had no what the **** root was but i came across it since my phone at the time was and lowkey is still trash but the point i am making is i was tired of waiting on LG to keep my phone up-to-date since it had a multitude of issues from hardware issues (Bootloops, Overheating, etc) to weak software (Terrible UI, Trash Updates, etc). Rooting helps me maintain my experience whenever or however i see fit, i don't have to rely on Oneplus (Although updates are fast) or even my Carrier T-Mobile, I control what happens and what exactly runs on my phone, not blindly allowing or even accepting that Oneplus or T-Mobile should know what is best for my phone; I truly set my own experience.
Apps:
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* Titanium Backup (Backup important app data to then import later from a data wipe or something.)
* Adaway (Takes care of ads on the Internet but correct me if i am wrong.)
* Youtube Vanced (Youtube Red features, except downloading videos.)
* Kernel Auditor (Control the CPU and GPU and much more, use it to underclock or overclock your phone to save battery or increase performance.)
* Tasker (Don't know much about this one but you can set useful tasks to launch or run to suit your needs.)
* Flashify (On the go recovery or kernel backups, use it to flash a custom recovery (Very ****ing useful if you accidentally lost TWRP) or even a boot image i believe.)
* Titanium Backup or some other system app uninstaller (Uninstall bloatware that you want off your phone.)
* Gravity Box (Xposed) (Don't know if it matters on Android Pie but it is used to add features that you want to add.)
* Magisk Modules (Get modules that you need or want on your phone that suit your needs or wants.)
Sure there are much more but this is all i got for you man, others will reply to you with probably more suited reasons but i hope i gave you a better idea on why it's good to have root. Like i always say, i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Anyway, take care dude.
Whhooooaaa. Hold your horses. Lol. The LG V20 rooted is a beast. Didn't even trade mine in for the promotion. The poster above pretty much covered the basics of why I will be rooting (forgot about the dual sim capability on T-Mo variant once converted to the international). Just got my unlock bin today (got this baby on Black Friday) so I'm ready to rock. Oh yeah, battery life. Saw a screenshot of someone had like 38 hours since last charge.
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This is the first device I have rooted in years, and I don't see any advantage to doing so. However, I did unlock the bootloader so I could flash the international firmware, then had to root to use Magisk hide so I could use Android Pay. Outside of flashing the firmware, I do not see any advantage to rooting.
I have the t mobile version as well and i wont go without root. I use it to copy new fonts, ringtones i create, and set as any sound. I change boot animations, every few days. I test other software within a rooted system. Just depends on your needs. Oh and the biggest advantages is viper. I use it and the op6 dual speaker mod. Not the one for the 6t. With root i was able to add a proper always on, the aosp version, and digital well-being.. plus its nothing to root. Or unroot. Just tested the 9.06 hydrogen os build and bc of root was able to copy stuff back to my standard oxygen os.
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I have the t mobile version as well and i wont go without root. I use it to copy new fonts, ringtones i create, and set as any sound. I change boot animations, every few days. I test other software within a rooted system. Just depends on your needs. Oh and the biggest advantages is viper. I use it and the op6 dual speaker mod. Not the one for the 6t. With root i was able to add a proper always on, the aosp version, and digital well-being.. plus its nothing to root. Or unroot. Just tested the 9.06 hydrogen os build and bc of root was able to copy stuff back to my standard oxygen os.
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For the speaker mod, do you have to install Viper for it to work?
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For the speaker mod, do you have to install Viper for it to work?
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Nope. I got my own i tweaked a bit.. ill share soon
Substratum is working with swift black. Another reason to root. I have to have a blacked out theme.
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well, I've rooted dozens of phones in my life, but my last 2, the Note 8, and this one, I havent found any real need to root; sure I would like Viper, and yes, I want to use Subs to theme, but thats it..
This phone is fast and smooth as any phone ever, with the stock rom, and not enough bloat or anything like that to make me root to get rid of; also, the "custom" roms that are out there are really nothing more than repacks of older setups, and, I dont see anything in any of them that are "must have's" for me. And, there are a few custom kernels as well, but, here again, I doubt they make the phone run any faster/smoother/better than it does right now..
I got my bootloader token weeks ago, but, still havent even bothered to unlock the bootloader yet, as I see no compelling reason to have my entire setup wiped and start again from scratch..
I guess if you haven't rooted much in the past, it remains a novelty to want to do it, but for those of us who have used mobile phones for decades now, this one is definitely awe sum, whether you root it or not, and, I am in no hurry what so ever to root it..
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well, I've rooted dozens of phones in my life, but my last 2, the Note 8, and this one, I havent found any real need to root; sure I would like Viper, and yes, I want to use Subs to theme, but thats it..
This phone is fast and smooth as any phone ever, with the stock rom, and not enough bloat or anything like that to make me root to get rid of; also, the "custom" roms that are out there are really nothing more than repacks of older setups, and, I dont see anything in any of them that are "must have's" for me. And, there are a few custom kernels as well, but, here again, I doubt they make the phone run any faster/smoother/better than it does right now..
I got my bootloader token weeks ago, but, still havent even bothered to unlock the bootloader yet, as I see no compelling reason to have my entire setup wiped and start again from scratch..
I guess if you haven't rooted much in the past, it remains a novelty to want to do it, but for those of us who have used mobile phones for decades now, this one is definitely awe sum, whether you root it or not, and, I am in no hurry what so ever to root it..
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I'm not rooted yet, but awaiting my bootloader unlock token.
I love this phone and it's 95% sufficient without root. The only reason I want to root is so I can install AdAway. I have been using Blockada however it isn't working as smoothly as AdAway did on my Nexus 5. I have intermittent network issues with Blockada which aren't caused by the block lists that I have - I toggle it off and on again it will work fine. So root + AdAway it is for me.
Android Q beta has been live for more than 24 hours now. So it's time to enroll ( https://www.google.com/android/beta ) and get your beta on. And hopefully the awesome devs we have still sticking with us on the original pixel XL will help us out with all things "root". I haven't tried it out myself but as soon as I'm done writing this I will and I'll also try rooting with Magisk and try fastbooting TWRP and hopefully if everything goes good I'll be back shortly to let you know if I was able to gain root and/or TWRP.
Just enroll in the developers beta program, if you haven't already, and you'll soon get a notification that there's an update ready to download and install. I'm pretty sure you'll have to have the stock recovery installed. I don't know about being unrooted or not. But I intend on trying the OTA with TWRP installed and rooted first and if no success..... I will fastboot the stock recovery then try again while still rooted. And if no success then I guess fastboot back to stock out the box and try again.
Link below.
https://www.google.com/android/beta
Oh and by the way the update is 975 mb.
Any one tried yet
I'm on it now. I took the OTA while I was on stock rooted android pie with TWRP. I'm now on Android Q no root and have not checked to see if I have TWRP. But I'd be willing to bet I don't. From the looks of it, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot different. The theme options have been moved to the "developer options " tab. As well as there are now different colors in the themes than we had choice of before. It as far as I can tell it's not as big a difference as there was from ice cream sandwich to jelly Bean. Or KitKat to lollipop. The Easter egg seems to be the same as PIE. So if you like drawing and slowly watching it fade away I guess you'll be stoked about that. I was hoping the Easter egg would be feeding the cat again. I know she's got to be starving. I havent fed her in years. LMAO. And from what I read earlier it may be a while till we will have root due to the system being structured completely different. But so far 30 mins in to it.... It seems smooth steady and normal. Not alot of change.
Here's a screenshot. "Request permission" toast looks a little different too...
Been using q since last night and it's very stable for a beta there's some small things to option out but works good
this means that if we will see Android Q, in the XL pixel version final
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Glad Google took this path!!! This is why we have a Pixel!!!
Here's the link to the downgrade OTA to stable PQ2A.190305.002 from beta QPP1.190205.018.B4 in case it's useful to anyone.This is the OTA file that gets sent when you opt-out of the beta program.
This OTA will wipe the device and is 500MB download:
https://ota.googlezip.net/packages/.../a41733236e0c5bc09a5f6a884a44a22a3e738030.zip
Contents of metadata:
Code:
ota-downgrade=yes
ota-property-files=payload_metadata.bin:7383:422447,payload.bin:7383:516125264,payload_properties.txt:516132699:167,care_map.txt:856:141,compatibility.zip:1044:6298,metadata:63:751
ota-required-cache=0
ota-streaming-property-files=payload.bin:7383:516125264,payload_properties.txt:516132699:167,care_map.txt:856:141,compatibility.zip:1044:6298,metadata:63:751
ota-type=AB
ota-wipe=yes
post-build=google/marlin/marlin:9/PQ2A.190305.002/5240760:user/release-keys
post-build-incremental=5240760
post-sdk-level=28
post-security-patch-level=2019-03-05
post-timestamp=1547760226
pre-build=google/marlin/marlin:Q/QPP1.190205.018.B4/5347935:user/release-keys
pre-build-incremental=5347935
pre-device=marlin
xdatastic said:
Here's the link to the downgrade OTA to stable PQ2A.190305.002 from beta QPP1.190205.018.B4 in case it's useful to anyone.This is the OTA file that gets sent when you opt-out of the beta program.
This OTA will wipe the device and is 500MB download:
https://ota.googlezip.net/packages/.../a41733236e0c5bc09a5f6a884a44a22a3e738030.zip
Contents of metadata:
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Couldn't we do like the old days and edit the OTA with wordpad on a PC to take out the "ota-wipe=yes" to keep it from wiping our device? I've never edited an OTA but we used to do that to the full Google flash files that would take you back to stock. And do we really need to flash the downgrade OTA to go back or can we just flash another rom or backup? Seems like on the Nexus 6p we didn't have to flash a specific Google built OTA to revert back? Seems like we used to be able to just restore a backup. I think I've even done that on this phone as well.
Been running this for about 20 hours. I have dark mode enabled and bars hidden. I have had to side load ticwatch apps. But everything seems stable. Really like the new looks and I feel like I am closer to not needing root. Adaway is my only miss so far. I checked out the desktop mode thing. Bluetooth seems to work well with my headphones. /super happy XL is still valid.
mattwheat said:
Couldn't we do like the old days and edit the OTA with wordpad on a PC to take out the "ota-wipe=yes" to keep it from wiping our device? I've never edited an OTA but we used to do that to the full Google flash files that would take you back to stock. And do we really need to flash the downgrade OTA to go back or can we just flash another rom or backup? Seems like on the Nexus 6p we didn't have to flash a specific Google built OTA to revert back? Seems like we used to be able to just restore a backup. I think I've even done that on this phone as well.
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Modifying OTA packages invalides them due to size and signature checks.
You don't need to use this OTA at all. It has very little use. You can unlock your bootloader and flash the images instead. This OTA just allows anyone to downgrade without having to unlock the bootloader.
Hey y'all! And thanks for the insight, tweaked. Usually I'd be right there with you but I'm still hesitant because root doesn't work. In my case, it's AdAway too, as well as YouTube Vanced and Viper via Magisk Modules that I'd be missing mostly. I might be okay without the latter ones but I honestly don't want to use any device without proper adblocking.
So my question to everyone here is, and I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is off topic... Is there any good alternative for real adblocking without root nowadays?
paco8 said:
Hey y'all! And thanks for the insight, tweaked. Usually I'd be right there with you but I'm still hesitant because root doesn't work. In my case, it's AdAway too, as well as YouTube Vanced and Viper via Magisk Modules that I'd be missing mostly. I might be okay without the latter ones but I honestly don't want to use any device without proper adblocking.
So my question to everyone here is, and I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is off topic... Is there any good alternative for real adblocking without root nowadays?
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I been reading and there seem to be a few that create this VPN thing on your phone. /blah... I read that root works or the Pixel and XL and 2. Just not on the 3 due to the partition change. I however can say that magisk 16 - 18.1 does not work. :/
paco8 said:
Hey y'all! And thanks for the insight, tweaked. Usually I'd be right there with you but I'm still hesitant because root doesn't work. In my case, it's AdAway too, as well as YouTube Vanced and Viper via Magisk Modules that I'd be missing mostly. I might be okay without the latter ones but I honestly don't want to use any device without proper adblocking.
So my question to everyone here is, and I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is off topic... Is there any good alternative for real adblocking without root nowadays?
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Yes, Android Pie made it super easy because it added Private DNS! Just input Adguard DNS server to Private DNS setting:
dns.adguard.com
https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-dns-announcement/
Guys, I've made the update after enroll the beta using the full it's, but after update some apps didn't work at all, like Waze, Gmail, etc. Did anyone had a similar problem?!? I had to flash pie again and restore the data partition from a nand backup. For the time, I'm out.
waingro808 said:
Yes, Android Pie made it super easy because it added Private DNS! Just input Adguard DNS server to Private DNS setting:
176.103.130.130
176.103.130.131
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html
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But u can't put ip numbers in the private DNS, only the translated address
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ttocs99 said:
Been using q since last night and it's very stable for a beta there's some small things to option out but works good
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Is it stable enough to use for a daily driver? Kinda wanna use it just cause lol
onesolo said:
But u can't put ip numbers in the private DNS, only the translated address
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Oops, you are right. I forgot how I did it lol. You need to put:
dns.adguard.com
Anonturtle said:
Is it stable enough to use for a daily driver? Kinda wanna use it just cause lol
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Yes very stable in actually supprised how good it is for a beta.
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Oops, you are right. I forgot how I did it lol. You need to put:
dns.adguard.com
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But that DNS from adguard, makes soft resets (not the ones that power cycle the phone)
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Gang,
The May 2019 update is now rolling out.
You should get an OTA update any time soon.
Main update topics:
- Android Generic
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2019-05-01.html
- Pixel Specific
"There are no Pixel security patches in the May 2019 Pixel Update Bulletin. "
"All Pixel devices running Android 9 will receive an Android 9 update as part of the May OTA. This quarterly release contains many functional updates and improvements to various parts of the Android platform and supported Pixel devices."
https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2019-05-01.html
Have fun
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What took you so long? I installed it more than two hours ago.
Seems nothing changed only security updates. However At-a-Glance widget now have only three options again.
No smart notifications and no Reminders notifications in the options.
Another update and no changes.. Well disappointing
100rabh7791 said:
Another update and no changes.. Well disappointing
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Oh, there are changes, Google is just getting lazy documenting them. How often to you see app updates that only state "bug fixes and performance improvements". I think they just cut & paste that into everything these days...
Pkt_Lnt said:
Oh, there are changes, Google is just getting lazy documenting them. How often to you see app updates that only state "bug fixes and performance improvements". I think they just cut & paste that into everything these days...
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Haha lets find them out then
1) battery % on the bottom of always on displays looks a bit bigger
The android security patch now says May! :silly::laugh:
I think Google focusing on Android Q and at this point make no sense to add improvements for Android P.
Android Q Beta 3 will be released after/during Google IO event. There will be a lot of announcement and new features for Android Q. Maybe a good time to upgrade.
Any of you guys rooted with magisk? It seems the may updates killed magisk and bootloops, at least for me.
Here's one change i noticed. Charging my device doesn't slow down until 95% full. ampere app shows 1020ma using a QC 3.0 enabled charger, not like before once the device hits 80% it slows down the charging from 1020ma to 600 to 700ma.
agplugged said:
Any of you guys rooted with magisk? It seems the may updates killed magisk and bootloops, at least for me.
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Same here. I'm running unrooted because of bootloops
Can someone tell me exactly how to update, im on april update stock magisk rooted with twrp recovery and custom kernel, cuz last time i updated from march to april update i messed up my phone and ended up wiping everything from it
agplugged said:
Any of you guys rooted with magisk? It seems the may updates killed magisk and bootloops, at least for me.
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I checked and made sure everything is in the latest version, and failed like you. John Wu is going to Apple to get a internship, maybe the update for the new version of magisk would not came out that fast as before. And now I choose to stay in the April update.
zenjedi said:
Same here. I'm running unrooted because of bootloops
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naive_tode said:
I checked and made sure everything is in the latest version, and failed like you. John Wu is going to Apple to get a internship, maybe the update for the new version of magisk would not came out that fast as before. And now I choose to stay in the April update.
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The easiest fix to regain root is....go to twrp, flash the magisk uninstaller.zip, then immediately flash the magisk 18.1 zip. You'll have to install your modules again, but that's not too big a deal :good::good:
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Nightf0x_007 said:
Can someone tell me exactly how to update, im on april update stock magisk rooted with twrp recovery and custom kernel, cuz last time i updated from march to april update i messed up my phone and ended up wiping everything from it
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Fastboot the May factory image with the -w removed from the flash-all.bat file, and let it boot up. Go back to fastboot mode, and fastboot twrp, I use the 323-1 version since I didn't have any luck with the 330-0 version. Once in twrp, flash the twrp installer zip, then flash the magisk uninstaller zip, then flash magisk 18.1 zip, boot up, install your magisk modules again, and done :good:
If I am going to do a clean install (with wipe) do I still need to uninstall magisk in order to prevent bootoops w current version?
Cowbell_Guy said:
If I am going to do a clean install (with wipe) do I still need to uninstall magisk in order to prevent bootoops w current version?
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Not really since your phone will be completely wiped anyways. You may need to use magisk 18.1 though. The May update and magisk 19+ versions did not work for me :good:
agplugged said:
Any of you guys rooted with magisk? It seems the may updates killed magisk and bootloops, at least for me.
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Works fine for me . I had to change to partition a this time to though
There is a UI change which I don't really like, though i will get used to it - probably for the best.
There's a new loading arrow symbol on all apps and pages that are loading. It uses the colour theme of the app.
See attached .
Everyone else notice this?
I want to update but dont want bootloops