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Someone hit me with a list of apps only available with root.

Considering if I want to root moto x pure or not.
With what is being called a "Pure android experience" meaning no bloatware, I am not sure why I should root.

Gravitybox
Greenify
Boot manager
Adaway
Xstana
Titanium backup
Those are the apps I use atm

papamalo said:
I am not sure why I should root.
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One word, ads! If you're used to being rooted and blocking them, they'll drive you nuts! They're everywhere ... obnoxious, obtrusive and just plain annoying!! So AdAway is a must IMO!(I understand folks gotta make a living, but man do I wish there was another way! LOL)
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Adfree (my choice over adaway), titanium backup, better battery stats, HiFont (change your system font), hosts editor (easily add and delete entries9 in your hosts file, that adaway creates ), Tasker, Xposed framework and all the great modules it offers for customizing your device to your own preference, and root Explorer are some of my favorites.
Bangin' on my unlocked/rooted
Moto X Pure

papamalo said:
Considering if I want to root moto x pure or not.
With what is being called a "Pure android experience" meaning no bloatware, I am not sure why I should root.
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If you're just wanting things to be as near to a Nexus as possible and that's all. Then you have no need to root. The only thing I have found the MXPE missing that is on Nexus devices is the Google Dialer. And Truedialer does all that the Google Dialer does and more.
Apps like the Camera on Nexus devices, can be installed from the Play Store.
I used to root, primarily for additional features that don't come with any device. Such as Titanium Backup. But Android Marshmallow will have app data backup. So no need to Titanium Backup going forward. I also used to root for Advanced Power Menu features. To be able to Reboot in a single click, instead of having to power off and on manually.
So far, I have no need to root the MXPE. Google finally has the OS in Marshmallow, to a point I can enjoy without added features from rooting.
You may want to look around the MXPE Apps and Dev forums. See the various offerings available with unlocking and rooting. You may want to give it a go. Me, I did unlocking and rooting, since converting and HTC HD2, from Windows Mobile to Android and all devices afterwards. I had my full of it and no longer desire to spend time and effort keeping up with or doing unlock and root activities. So I enjoy stock and with more frequent OTA updates in these times, I will let the OEM handle sending fixes and updates.
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I've never owned a nexus, but I did, (with a great deal of help from you guys here) gut and rip an LG esteem, and then a Samsung galaxy s3, using CWM and recovery, a kernel with some ungodly name like "Lucifer kernel" (sounds like hot sauce on popcorn)
The functions I am looking for are as follows
- No bloatware
- Classic text messaging and classic phone dialer themes
- Custom Boot Animation
- Ability to delete all apps I don't use, (on previous phones, some apps I blasted were google, and there were lists of what I could un-install with no problems for each device)
- KIES support
Basically faster, lighter, smarter, better, cooler, and makes the world bend to my will.
Looks like I might have to roll up my sleeves again and earn how to root yet another device!
That is unless someone comes up with another genius "one click root-kernel-rom" install, but at this point I am fairly comfortable with ODIN panels, and self installing .zip, or .rar files.
Question: Has there ever been an android phone, that ships already rooted?
thanks! once again I know I am in the right place.
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The procedure is really very simple and you don't have to worry about if someone put anything dubious in said one click root app.
Bangin' on my unlocked/rooted
Moto X Pure

cool! You will see me back here asking some questions, when I unbox the little bugger.
Thanks again!
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papamalo said:
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- No bloatware
- Classic text messaging and classic phone dialer themes
- Custom Boot Animation
- Ability to delete all apps I don't use, (on previous phones, some apps I blasted were google, and there were lists of what I could un-install with no problems for each device)
- KIES support
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- No worries about bloatware. And if you feel anything is bloat, just disable the app. No root nessesary.
- Seems you would be able to find something in the Google Play Store, that does this for you. I think you'd be hard pressed, to find a Dev that will make something custom like that in a MXPE ROM. The Devs will probably be trying to use newer and better, rather than retro.
- You will need to unlock the bootloader, to apply a custom boot animation. That's not a "root" thing AFAIK, but you do need to unlock the bootloader. And then you will be able to apply a custom boot animation. I'm sure any maker of a boot animation will provide instructions.
- Just disable, no root needed. If you feel you absolutely must "uninstall", then you will need to get a custom ROM that has things you don't like already removed. But disable works very well.
- I don't know how you will find KIES Support. That's a Samsung thing. I dobut you'll find a way to get it working on the MXPE.

papamalo said:
- No bloatware
- Classic text messaging and classic phone dialer themes
- Custom Boot Animation
- Ability to delete all apps I don't use, (on previous phones, some apps I blasted were google, and there were lists of what I could un-install with no problems for each device)
- KIES support
Looks like I might have to roll up my sleeves again and earn how to root yet another device!
That is unless someone comes up with another genius "one click root-kernel-rom" install, but at this point I am fairly comfortable with ODIN panels, and self installing .zip, or .rar files.
Question: Has there ever been an android phone, that ships already rooted?
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Out of everything on your list, you could *potentially* find some workaround or alternative that doesn't require root (or an unlocked bootloader), with the exception of a Custom Boot Animation. If you want that, then you must have an unlocked bootloader to do it. And if you're going to unlock your bootloader, you might as well just take it one minor step further and root your phone as well.
As for HOW to unlock / root... there *IS* a tookit to do it. Just look in the Android Development section of this forum, and you'll find it. Couldn't be easier.
You won't need to deal with all of that garbage of ODIN panels, flashing upgrades / downgrades / radios and applying patches in a very specific order, etc. The reason all of those complex steps exist for other phones is because those phones have locked bootloaders; and clever XDA developers had to find some obscure security exploit in order to gain root access. The Moto X Pure ships with an easily unlocked bootloader, which eliminates all of those complex steps to gain root access. It's about as close to the Nexus experience as you can get on a non-Nexus device. You essentially flip a switch, and get an unlocked bootloader. And once you have an unlocked bootloader, you can pretty much do anything you want with your phone without having to jump through hoops to do it.

My list goes:
Xposed framework
Gravitybox
Flat colored bars
Adaway
Softkeyz
Custom boot animation manager
Obviously I root for enhanced customization and ad removal.

I might consider rooting again, if some genius in XDA, comes up with a, "One-click RootROMRecovery, DeathKernel3000© w/ a "Wayyy cooler than you" option. lol.
Thanks
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papamalo said:
I might consider rooting again, if some genius in XDA, comes up with a, "One-click RootROMRecovery, DeathKernel3000© w/ a "Wayyy cooler than you" option.
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kent1146 said:
As for HOW to unlock / root... there *IS* a tookit to do it. Just look in the Android Development section of this forum, and you'll find it. Couldn't be easier.
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so I downloaded WinDroid Universal Android Toolkit v2.5.exe, and am now looking at TWRP, and considering which applications to install after routing. My phone is supposed to arrive tomorrow I want to get ready! Thanks for the help you guys

Do we really need ROOT on the Moto X Pure?

Hi All,
I've had many android phones in the past, and I could not go without rooting them. Rooting offered efficient ROMs and some tethering I needed. I feel as though the Moto X Pure is the stock android that we all want. I have only had Sense/TW/Droid phones, thus needed to ROOT/flash AOSP ROMs.
What are the advantages of unlocking the boot-loader/rooting thisphone? I am seriously considering purchasing one. I am a big fan of Motorola, and I am an even bigger fan of true Android.
Thanks in advance,
996

996 said:
Hi All,
I've had many android phones in the past, and I could not go without rooting them. Rooting offered efficient ROMs and some tethering I needed. I feel as though the Moto X Pure is the stock android that we all want. I have only had Sense/TW/Droid phones, thus needed to ROOT/flash AOSP ROMs.
What are the advantages of unlocking the boot-loader/rooting thisphone? I am seriously considering purchasing one. I am a big fan of Motorola, and I am an even bigger fan of true Android.
Thanks in advance,
996
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The only reasons I rooted was for Titanium Backup, full TWRP backup, and Xposed. I use Xposed for GravityBox to allow me to customize the phone without needing a ROM, and for a module that colors my nav bar and status bar within every app. Basically, if you don't see yourself wanting to customize features that custom ROMs have, or you don't need to backup your apps and their data, you don't need root. At least not in my opinion. Titanium Backup is the biggest reason I root. I need to have backups of my apps and data just in case something happens to my phone, or when I upgrade phones.
Edit: As others said, Adaway is another reason to root. I'm so used to having this that I forgot to include it in my list lol.

Don't forget adfree/adaway.

Count me in on the Titanium backup and Adaway.

Got it. Thank you for the info guys. As far as rooting goes, am I required to flash a custom ROM if I root the Moto X? Or is recovery the only thing necessary?

You dont have to flash a custom rom.
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996 said:
Got it. Thank you for the info guys. As far as rooting goes, am I required to flash a custom ROM if I root the Moto X? Or is recovery the only thing necessary?
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I rooted for the reasons the others mentioned - Titanium Backup and Adaway, also having a nandroid backup of a fresh stock setup. You're right though, this phone would be easy to live with as it comes from the factory. I'm glad I got it, I like it a lot.

Persistent desktop view in Chrome. You can add a command line switch in /data/local/ that will force the user agent to appear to be from a pc. The 'request desktop' in settings is a per visit option. I like it a bit more permanent. Specially on a larger screen.
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Adaway.. nuff said
I think the main reason for people to root now is mainly just xposed or when backing up data.

Adaway is worth the trouble rooting alone.

I root for custom roms n kernels. Maybe not so much for xpe, but other device definitely needs it. As for xpe, custom rom with kernel that increase battery life is a must. Why would you need tb? Unless you were constantly flashing roms?
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I root for 3 reasons: ad blocking, TIBU, and app permissions. Marshmellow is pretty much eliminating the need for 2 of those, but I still feel like I need to root for ads.

996 said:
Hi All,
I've had many android phones in the past, and I could not go without rooting them. Rooting offered efficient ROMs and some tethering I needed. I feel as though the Moto X Pure is the stock android that we all want. I have only had Sense/TW/Droid phones, thus needed to ROOT/flash AOSP ROMs.
What are the advantages of unlocking the boot-loader/rooting thisphone? I am seriously considering purchasing one. I am a big fan of Motorola, and I am an even bigger fan of true Android.
Thanks in advance,
996
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As many other people have said:
1) Titanium Backup (if you want to easily port over apps & settings from your old phone to your new phone).
2) AdAway (both web-based AdAway and YouTube AdBlocker).
3) WiFi Tethering - Makes it a lot easier to do on any carrier
4) GravityBox (an XPosed module). Lets you customize the UI of your phone without installing custom ROMs; such as circle battery indicators, expanded Reboot menus, change color and behavior of the Status Bar, etc.
If you're going to be getting a Moto X Pure, you really should root the phone the moment you get it. The process of rooting this phone will wipe the phone clean. And it allows you to use Titanium Backup to port over apps & settings from your old phone. Both are reasons why you should root immediately, rather than wait 2 months to do it.

kent1146 said:
As many other people have said:
1) Titanium Backup (if you want to easily port over apps & settings from your old phone to your new phone).
2) AdAway (both web-based AdAway and YouTube AdBlocker).
3) WiFi Tethering - Makes it a lot easier to do on any carrier
4) GravityBox (an XPosed module). Lets you customize the UI of your phone without installing custom ROMs; such as circle battery indicators, expanded Reboot menus, change color and behavior of the Status Bar, etc.
If you're going to be getting a Moto X Pure, you really should root the phone the moment you get it. The process of rooting this phone will wipe the phone clean. And it allows you to use Titanium Backup to port over apps & settings from your old phone. Both are reasons why you should root immediately, rather than wait 2 months to do it.
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Not necessarily some people like myself will wait a few days to make sure all the hardware is up to snuff to make sure if something is wrong the return process isn't complicated. And I doubt many people wait a couple of months unless they're waiting a stable recovery or xposed module.

just to be clear, M will require you to flash a custom kernel for root, unless Chainfire somehow updates SuperSU to play nice with the stock M kernel. Also system RW protection is enabled by default at the kernel level on M.

Pokemon Go with Fake GPS on the S5 Verizon

Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.

Let me rephrase the question. I can update to marshmallow 6.0 with images available on the internet. I will lose the ability to root the phone. But I may be able to run fake gps and play pokemon go.
Or I can try rooting it and then installing xposed or other frameworks to get the set up on lollipop 5.0 - which is root-able.
Which would be the recommended way for someone like me with mediocre android hacking skills and very little time?
Thanks.

Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.

yelloguy said:
Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.
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you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.

loadedpampers said:
Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.
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Thanks so much. I am currently not rooted and when I go to MM I cannot be rooted from what I understand. So I think I will do the upgrade when I have some time. I will lose the ability to root but I can live with that.

KaptinBoxxi said:
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?

Also, can anyone point me to a legit MM stock ROM? I have downloaded ODIN but I am nervous about the sketchy websites needing registration for downloading the ROM image. I need stock un-rooted Verizon ROM so I was thinking it should be easy to find. However I am not having much luck on the Googles.

Using Magisk 10.2 and the root bundled with it works. You just have to use Magisk hide which is now bundled with magisk.
I'm on vzw s5 running phoenix rom with root. Can still play pogo. No luck on xposed though.

Just a quick update. I got all the things in place for updating the phone to Marshmallow 6.0 and connected the phone to the computer for the first time. The phone gave me messages about installing software update agent and I followed the instructions. It offered to install the marshmallow update from verizon and I took that offer.
After the update, the option to select a GPS app showed up on the phone. I selected my installed app and almost everything works on pokemon go now.
I say almost because PoGo still jumps back to home location for a short second from time to time. But from what I can tell, the fix needs root. So I'll just leave good enough alone for now.
Thanks for all the help.

yelloguy said:
I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?
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i do so much with my devices that they need to be rooted. i do a lot of app debugging for my friend who makes games to help him out. i do have a spare phone that's not rooted for pogo now though. although htc m7's are awful haha

TechX1991 said:
you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers

kani1544 said:
Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers
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This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it

TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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bro chill man. i tried to google it but cant get the answer man. why are u getting so angry man. what did i do. Sorry i just posted my question at ur post to get my answers to my questions. But just curious why wont you share some info, is there some reason or something?

TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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should we chat private pm or something thats why?

Is it worth rooting Mi A1 ?

Should I root my A1 and start customising it or wait for Oreo custom roms ?

Totally depends on you, if u want eis, front cam portrait, changed fonts, ar stickers,etc you can root via magisk(best way), else wait for stable custom roms(like me)(better than hard bricking this device) because of a/b partition system !

A good question... I've had enough ROOT experience as simple user with my Galaxy S5, so when I bought the A1 I decided to ROOT it as well and so I did. Now I am thinking I don't really need ROOT on this phone. The GCam was installed using this method which doesn't require ROOT access. I don't absolutely need the on screen virtual bottons or alike so why I should root? I am going to wait till the new OTA comes and then decide whether I stay with ROOT. My curiosity is already setisfied and I don't need ROOT for anything else

Historically I (almost) always rooted my "China phones" almost immediately but this time nope, I really trying to find a good reason (not just annoyance) to do that.
So my humble advice is: If You really have a big issue (not just a minor annoyance) that You know can be solved by rooting and modifying system, just go ahead.
Otherwise no, it's pretty pointless to root...

I think rooting is not an issue these days because you can go back to stock anytime you want so why not root and enjoy anything you want to do with root instead of waiting for OTA and keep locked phone ?
Still it depends on you, in my case i can't imagine using phone without lucky patcher, freedom, xposed and titanium backup so i need root all the time. I don't care about OTA because its been more than a month there is no OTA

I don't..
at least before a tool was invented so that I can activate the necessary modules before installing GCam HDR+.. that is it ?

i never rooted a phone.
2 weeks ago i rooted my mi a1 and god, the difference to not root is a big one.
Naptime while rooted work 2 times better!
I was able with root to install some useful app and my phone consume much less battery, is more responsive and customized for my need.
From now on i will always root, lol.
And im still learning and testing, next will be learn to use titanium back up and kernel aidiutor, i already changed the cpu governor from interactive to conservative yesterday and testing it
Gcam is amazing compared to xiaomi cam app, but have some issue so i had to install and use 2 different version. And also in eeded a fix to avoit long opening time on normal cam while rooted, in magisk mod.
So, my take is, root if you willing to learn stuff, invest time in this and do test, try different app, config etc.
You dont dont want to spend time to customize, test etc, dont root.

riccetto80 said:
i never rooted a phone.
2 weeks ago i rooted my mi a1 and god, the difference to not root is a big one.
Naptime while rooted work 2 times better!
I was able with root to install some useful app and my phone consume much less battery, is more responsive and customized for my need.
From now on i will always root, lol.
And im still learning and testing, next will be learn to use titanium back up and kernel aidiutor, i already changed the cpu governor from interactive to conservative yesterday and testing it
Gcam is amazing compared to xiaomi cam app, but have some issue so i had to install and use 2 different version. And also in eeded a fix to avoit long opening time on normal cam while rooted, in magisk mod.
So, my take is, root if you willing to learn stuff, invest time in this and do test, try different app, config etc.
You dont dont want to spend time to customize, test etc, dont root.
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Which method have u used to root your MI A1 and whoch gcam version is better when you rooted

Hisham Shoheb said:
Which method have u used to root your MI A1 and whoch gcam version is better when you rooted
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/tool-xiaomi-mi-a1-tool-drivers-unlock-t3742857

Modder001 said:
Should I root my A1 and start customising it or wait for Oreo custom roms ?
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If you have to ask this question, then you don't need root.

as one memeber said wait for custom rom save yourself the headache

The only reason for me to root is for adaway in order to get rid of the in-apps ads.

morcus said:
The only reason for me to root is for adaway in order to get rid of the in-apps ads.
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Dont need root to block in app ads
Just install adguard..work for non rooted device

riccetto80 said:
i never rooted a phone.
2 weeks ago i rooted my mi a1 and god, the difference to not root is a big one.
Naptime while rooted work 2 times better!
I was able with root to install some useful app and my phone consume much less battery, is more responsive and customized for my need.
From now on i will always root, lol.
And im still learning and testing, next will be learn to use titanium back up and kernel aidiutor, i already changed the cpu governor from interactive to conservative yesterday and testing it
Gcam is amazing compared to xiaomi cam app, but have some issue so i had to install and use 2 different version. And also in eeded a fix to avoit long opening time on normal cam while rooted, in magisk mod.
So, my take is, root if you willing to learn stuff, invest time in this and do test, try different app, config etc.
You dont dont want to spend time to customize, test etc, dont root.
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You always have to begin somewhere. Welcome to the club!

to root or not to root that is the question

So I just got my op6t and I'm conflicted if I should root. I'm under a 2year payment plan (honestly never stopped me in the past). But I have to ask is it worth it on the 6t?

Hi!
Actually there are a lot of things you can do without root your phone, and some others having rooted. Know also that having the MSM Download Tool available here in the forum you can return to fully unrooted/stock your phone at any moment, even if you render it to a non bootable/loopboot status.
Also have in mind that the "worst" part of being rooted is the lose of Widevine L1, so you won't be able to watch HD content in your device using Netflix. This also seems to apply to some banking apps that looks not working detecting rooted devices.
And for the custom roms... well, there are some great around here, but by now no one actually can use the fingerprint scanner to unlock your phone.
I rooted mine when was new released, was the first thing I did. Then I returned to stock a few days later. Didn't make any sense to me be in the root side...

Thank you that helped a lot. I will definitely have to think about root and weigh the pros and cons

No one will know if u root or not. That's the joy of msm. And if u use libcrypto disabler u can still watch in hd.

I would definitely root. Won't hurt.
I wouldn't install a custom rom though. Very disappointing on this device.

I have tried every rom. And Built a few for this device. Tresk mod (Google it, not on xda) it is the best rom. And works farrrr better than oxygen os with this hardware.. there isn't absolutely anything disappointing with it.

fullofhell said:
No one will know if u root or not. That's the joy of msm. And if u use libcrypto disabler u can still watch in hd.
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Hello!
Didn't know about that libcrypto disabler, but I googled and found this in the developer thread:
"Please note that a consequence of using this module is that Widevine DRM will fall back to using L3 instead of L1. This means that Netflix will play all content in SD quality, regardless of your subscription type. Of course, without this module, you won't be able to play anything on a rooted device, so beggars can't be choosers."
Actually that's what happens with the OnePlus 6T, once unlocking the bootloader leads the Widevine DRM to L3, so Netflix only plays SD content.

Just get root with Magisk and disable (hide) any app that disallows root. One of the most important aspects (at least for me) of being root is Titanium Backup and AdAway.

What I would like to know is when the bootloader is unlocked, is the device fully decrypted? Or is the encryption still fully functioning even when bootloader is unlocked and rooted?

oggta said:
What I would like to know is when the bootloader is unlocked, is the device fully decrypted? Or is the encryption still fully functioning even when bootloader is unlocked and rooted?
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Still encrypted, u don't want it decrypted.. security is broken if u do..and has zero benefits like on older phones

I stopped rooting years ago...about android 4.3
Prior to that, even going back to my "pda-phone" days, I use to flash about anything that would come along. My first droid was the Dell Streak 5, then the Galaxy Note 1. Then came droid 4.3 and the Mate 2, which was good and for me, didn't need to be rooted. Now, after work, I rarely pick up the phone unless someone calls me. It's a work "tool" and I just don't bother. Other than Nova Launcher, I just don't screw with them any more.

ducted said:
Hi!
Actually there are a lot of things you can do without root your phone, and some others having rooted. Know also that having the MSM Download Tool available here in the forum you can return to fully unrooted/stock your phone at any moment, even if you render it to a non bootable/loopboot status.
Also have in mind that the "worst" part of being rooted is the lose of Widevine L1, so you won't be able to watch HD content in your device using Netflix. This also seems to apply to some banking apps that looks not working detecting rooted devices.
And for the custom roms... well, there are some great around here, but by now no one actually can use the fingerprint scanner to unlock your phone.
I rooted mine when was new released, was the first thing I did. Then I returned to stock a few days later. Didn't make any sense to me be in the root side...
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Wrong, you can use libcrypto disabler to watch HD videos in Netflix. And custom roms do now have working fingerprints. You can hide root from banking apps since Magisk is systemless.

ebproject said:
Wrong, you can use libcrypto disabler to watch HD videos in Netflix. And custom roms do now have working fingerprints. You can hide root from banking apps since Magisk is systemless.
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Read this about libcrypto disabler from the developer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-liboemcrypto-disabler-drm-t3794393
Notice the last paragraph before the change log.
And for the custom roms having working fingerprint sensor, could you recommend any? I'll like to test some of them.
TY!

ducted said:
Read this about libcrypto disabler from the developer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-liboemcrypto-disabler-drm-t3794393
Notice the last paragraph before the change log.
And for the custom roms having working fingerprint sensor, could you recommend any? I'll like to test some of them.
TY!
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Tresk mod (not on xda) and pixel experience work flawlessly..better than oos

Can we install and use dolby without rooting our phones? if we can plz share something...
Thanks.

Last time I rooted was the Note 4. Didn't care to until Google began handicapping Android more and more. The big one for me is killing call recording. Ironically, Google has been working more to copy iOS, an OS which supports call recording. So they're not copying that part of it.

ducted said:
Read this about libcrypto disabler from the developer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-liboemcrypto-disabler-drm-t3794393
Notice the last paragraph before the change log.
And for the custom roms having working fingerprint sensor, could you recommend any? I'll like to test some of them.
TY!
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Try Skydragon, the battery life is incredible. Best I've ever seen.

I recently reverted back to stock software. As nice as rooting can be, it gets very easy to be addicted to flashing software constantly, and oxygen OS is really the best Android experience these days. My only complaint is the occasional aggressive hibernation in their kernel configuration. But the overall experience is great, and unless you're getting pretty technical on your customizations, stock international software can't be beat!

So if I just convert from T-Mobile to international can I still have hd Netflix?

darkfire2040 said:
So if I just convert from T-Mobile to international can I still have hd Netflix?
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If your bootloader is unlocked, no. Just unlocking the bootloader leads Widevine from L1 (HD content) to L3 (SD content). (This happens only while your bootloader is unlocked, relocking it will raise Widevine to L1 again.)
I don't know if you are using the MSM Tool to convert your phone or if is some sort of rom mix flashed via TWRP, but using MSM tool flashes to stock and then relocks the bootloader, so you will be able to play HD content in Netflix.
You can use any tool like "DevCheck Hardware and System Info" from @flar2 available at the Play Store to check your Widevine level amongst other useful device info.