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Life feels better after the Iconia! My 2 cents.. :)

Hello!
I've had the Iconia for about three weeks now and have to say I'm very satisfied with the device. I went to the U.S. on late April for a business trip and decided to invest my hard earned money on a new tablet. I was able to side test the Iconia, Xoom, iPad 2 and was sold by the Acer for the following reasons:
- Full sized USB and microSD right out of the box;
- Speaker quality;
- Rotation lock switch;
- Battery life;
- Feels AWESOME in hands (very important factor to me. We all know the Iconia is heavier than the iPad, Galaxy, Transformer.. but those extra 100g are well distributed on its fantastic design);
- Fantastic design
Both Iconia and Xoom share very similar hardware specs, but the A500 user experience felt a lot smoother. Dunno if it's Android related, but I actually had to hard reset the Xoom in store. That was very disappointing.
I own an iPhone 4 since its launch, so I'm very used and kinda tired of iOS. It feels outdated. Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone, it's a phenomenal piece of hardware, specially after jailbreaking, but I felt it was time to go for a more flexible solution for my tablet experience.
I never saw the Iconia as an expensive toy. Sure I can watch movies and Youtube videos with my girlfriend in bed or have many laughs with friends while messing with the "Nipple" app.. but I no longer feel enslaved to a chair and table when I need to browse the web, read emails, chat, online shopping, read, read, read, etc NO MATTER where I am. Yes, I have a laptop, but it's simply not the same thing. A funny example, the other day I was editing an important document on the laptop, when all the sudden I felt the urge to go to the bathroom.. it took me less than 10 seconds to save the document to a thumbdrive, go to the bathroom and resume my editing on Quickoffice. Comfy and priceless!
I also play drums and have been using the A500 quite a lot for sheet music reading, learning new songs, etc. Last week I was jamming with a couple of friends as we needed some lyrics.. I just handed the Iconia to the "singer" (we were kinda drunk, lol) and he had all lyrics opened in different browser tabs in a matter of seconds, ready to rock. Again, priceless! Here's the result (just for giggles):
I have only 2 minor issues that hopefully Acer will fix on the upcoming update:
- GPS not properly working (or not working at all, while the iPhone locks to the satellites almost instantly);
- Random wake/sleep bug.
At the end of the day, I think it's a matter of life quality and 450 bucks sounds like a very small investment for what I've gained so far using the Iconia. Definitely a keeper for its price and specs. Thumbs up, Acer!

I like mine a lot, I hope Acer fix GPS, in my X10 gps lock almost instantly without wifi or 3g, I miss that feature.

Love it, great stuff, it certainly does change how you access the net, read, music etc.
I love the music player and browser, also got the american google book app which looks fantastic and is real smooth, but cant add your own books so not much use...
I have been into computers for a long long time, and I can safely say that tablets are the first real game changer, even more so than laptops...
We are all blessed to have one of these devices (or any new tablet) to be able to enjoy and use in our lives.
Enjoy

I aslo agree, I love this new form of computing. I have a big, loud, and sometimes room warming gaming desktop. It feels great to not sanction myself off in the corner of the room to pay bills, reply to emails, and do basic things. All while not staring down my on my phones screen.

im buying it for sure!
thanks for the nice info.....

yeah I feel the same I use my Acer iconia A500 all day so far I'm very satisfied but just feel like we need more developer support like the Asus and xoom if you look at their forums they already have custom themes I want that but even if we don't get it oh well I still love my tablet the same

I enjoy the hell out of mine. I didn't buy it to be a supercomputer, if I wanted an Ipad2 I would have bought one. Plain and simple, the Iconia does what I bought it for, web browsing, music, video and a few games now and then. It came down to a choice between a new laptop or a tablet. I wanted the portability of the tablet and didn't want another device tethered to Itunes. I'm glad I bought mine and I also understand this tablet is still very early in its development and should mature well over time. Did I expect absolute perfection from day one, nope, but I'm glad I got what I did and I'm going to stick with it.

Love mine for many reasons, but this is #1
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Love mine for many reasons, but this is #1
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Love mine for many reasons, but this is #1
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I use a 1TB WD drive on mine, works great.

just to be fair with Acer, after the latest update, my 2 main issues (wake up bug and dead GPS), seem to be solved. Thanks for listening, Acer.

zolhof said:
At the end of the day, I think it's a matter of life quality and 450 bucks sounds like a very small investment for what I've gained so far using the Iconia. Definitely a keeper for its price and specs. Thumbs up, Acer!
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This is how I feel as well. You know they get it right when you can't see yourself without a certain piece of tech.
Can you live without a cell phone? Sure! Would you if you didn't have to? Doubtful.
This is the sentiment I hold for my A500. I will be the first to admit that it's not necessary. But boy is life better/more convenient, etc. with it around.
I won't complain about the price, though I suspect Acer could have done a little better than $450. Still, we are paying a premium as somewhat, first adopters. Eventually I'm sure parts will become cheaper, as well as assembly and somewhere down the line the price will be more in line with what I consider to be perfect (aka $400 or less).

Your reasons were exactly why I went with the Acer over the Xoom although Im pretty sure they will get things sorted out. I hope both are a success as I really want to see some app development on the commercial side (games etc).

[Q] Nexus 4, or Nexus 10? Which one would suit me more?

I realize it's a comparison between a phone and a tablet, but I really don't know which one to get at this point, so I'm hoping some people can possibly help me out
I was mainly interested in the Nexus 4 because of it's portability, camera (8MP), and it has cellular, which I might find useful. I haven't really messed with smaller Android devices though for too long (used 7-inch tablets), so I don't know how well I'll fair with the screen size. I also heard recently that the Nexus 4 wasn't on AOSP, and haven't really seen anything official saying it would ever be supported...
The Nexus 10 is clearly going to be a "slight" issue with portability. The camera is only 5MP, but I really don't know too much more then that (I'm sure there's other aspects to consider when comparing cameras other then megapixels). The screen size sounds amazing, and would be pretty entertaining for gaming and movies, and the resolution is even nicer. And from what I heard, this is the best device for AOSP currently Has no cellular however, but then again I don't think I would want to be using this thing for a phone either (perhaps I can get a hotspot?)
Hardware is another concern. If I assume right, the better the hardware, the longer the device will be supported by Google. With this in mind, the Nexus 10 would be the last device in the latest list of devices to stop receiving higher Android versions, due to the system specs (has more power to run later Android versions basically). Also, hardware determines how smoothly the device would operate as well. I'm certain that both the Nexus 4 and 10 can do the usual tasks without any issue at all, but gaming-wise, I feel the Nexus 10 would be better.
I also have a slight interest in trying to develop for Android in the future, with apps.
So basically:
Nexus 4 Benefits:
- Portability (main)
- Cellular
Disadvantages:
- No AOSP (yet anyway, if ever)
- Go out-of-date quicker
Nexus 10 Benefits:
- Hardware (main)
- AOSP
Disadvantages:
- Portability
- No Cellular (could maybe just get a hotspot though, idk)
As it stands currently, I can't really purchase either device at the moment (I don't have the funds or card from PayPal yet, Nexus 4 is out of stock, and Nexus 4 is a tiny bit more then I have in my PayPal currently). So I have a little bit before I can make a decision anyway Any help would be nice though.

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The only thing lacking on the hardware side for the N4 is the screen resolution. If it were 1080, that would've taken the cake. Everything else about the phone is top notch, which is much more than can be said about the GNex which had weak hardware to begin with. So I don't see the N4 as going out of date anytime soon.
Honestly all it's going to come down to is one is a phone, and one is a tablet. The N4 can do pretty much everything the N10 can do, just on a smaller scale.
I have a N4 arriving tomorrow, and am considering getting the N10. The N4 will be mostly a tool for me whereas the N10 would be for entertainment and possibly productiveness (organization, notes, typing, etc.), plus the N4 could provide a hotspot for the N10. I'd be using the N10 for browsing when possible, and gaming when desired. I feel like browsing on a tablet is much better than on a 4 inch phone, but that comes at a price of at least $399 which I'm not sure I am going to be able to justify. I also may look into the whole watching TV on the tablet scene, and possibly movies, but other than those few things, I have no idea what I'd use a tablet for.

none because its impossible to buy

If you're between the 4 and the 10, why not consider the HSPA version of the Nexus 7? More portable than the 10 and has the cellular data, but still has a larger screen than the Nexus 4.

Nitemare3219 said:
Honestly all it's going to come down to is one is a phone, and one is a tablet. The N4 can do pretty much everything the N10 can do, just on a smaller scale.
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Yeah that's true, I just need to figure out which device I would want sooner then possibly later. I like the thought of a larger screen for some gaming, and I feel it might be more useful around the house, and nice to take to bed to do some reading and stuff.
Not sure how gaming would really be on the Nexus 4; I mean it would be possible of course, I just don't know if I would quite enjoy it as much on a smaller screen.
With NFC, I did like to pay for things at a fast food place and pharmacy downtown when I had my Nexus 7, and people found it pretty cool The factor of paying with NFC exists for both the 4 and 10, although I do wonder what people's initial response would be if I tap a 10-inch tablet to the pay pass lol. Taking pictures outdoors in public is probably another case where a phone might be a more "acceptable" device to use, instead of a 10-inch tablet (there was some pretty funny picture posted on xda on N7's forums I think with someone using an iPad to take a picture in a group of other people with phones and cameras)
Kinda wish I had both devices to test before buying lol... maybe I should just make cardboard cutouts for both and see how convenient each would be for some tasks
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Nexus 10 (16GB) is still available for me to buy from Play Store:
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And I have the funds for it now on PayPal, still gotta wait for the card though
raptir said:
If you're between the 4 and the 10, why not consider the HSPA version of the Nexus 7? More portable than the 10 and has the cellular data, but still has a larger screen than the Nexus 4.
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I had the Nexus 7, but idk. I mean it was a pretty nice device, but both the 4 and 10 have better hardware. Plus I kind of wanted to try out a different form factor other then 7-inch

Who's getting one and why?

Hey all
HTC has hit us with the latest "Nexus" tablet, the Nexus 9. It's a bit different from other tabs being released atm, It's gone down the apple route with its display ratio, a 4:3 number. I can see the benefits of this for ebooks and PDF's etc, but have we all got used to the 16:9/16:10 ratios of most android tabs? Both have their pros and cons, thoughts?
We also see a Dual-core processor, something that is different as most tabs now tout at least a Quad-Core affair, would this be a major factor in the decisions made when considering this device?
Its great to see HTC back in the tab game, i for one hope to see more, maybe with the sense UI:good:
So, who will be grabbing one of these?
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I'll be getting one! Well, don't under estimate the processor, were talking Tegra K1 here. It did even beat the 2012 Mac Pro in single tread test.

Because it's a nexus ! Great development! To many to list

That Dual core Denver K1 is the most powerful processor at this moment
The scary thing is even it runs way low clock speed to what it is capable of(2.3Ghz>3Ghz),it still out perform Apple's A8 chip on both single thread and multi thread
And dat the GPU it is just pure massacre
The only thing disappoint me is the storage,but I'll get a otg flash drive to see how it works

Me and laptop replacement

I've got a 32GB white one pre-ordered. I've been wanting a ~8" tablet for a while now. This being a nexus device and the best SOC available atm made it an instabuy!

simply its a NEXUS 9
and its the best + i need an upgrade from my nexus 7 12

I have a tab 12.2 right now and it's just to heavy haha. The nexus 9 is like 50% lighter than the tab pro 12.2

I preordered mine (32 gig white version). I'm getting it for two reasons:
- My 2012 Nexus 7 has run its course. It's too laggy and slow in every task.
- I was waiting for a true upgrade spec wise, and the Denver Tegra K1 ticks all the right boxes:
ARMv8 based cores with 7-way superscalar and in-order execution. Even ARM's cortex-A57 is no match for this, which means qualcomm needs to design a new core in order to catch up with nvidia and apple
GPU performance currently unmatched in the mobile space. The Geforce ULP in the previous Tegra chips was terrible and an outdated architecture. Kepler is a huge upgrade.

I need a tablet mostly for the consumption of PDFs and other documents for work. Up to this point, the iPad was the ideal device due to its 4:3 aspect ratio. Now I have a large high-end device to go with since I do prefer the Android ecosystem over iOS.
I also do not have a tablet at the moment, so might as well spend on a device that would be my main device.

My first tablet was an Nexus 7, then I made the move to an iPad Mini, then back to the N7 2013, I have no tablet atm... But the N9 has a decent sized screen. Is made by HTC and Looks good, so yeah, I'll purchase one.

radicalisto said:
My first tablet was an Nexus 7, then I made the move to an iPad Mini, then back to the N7 2013, I have no tablet atm... But the N9 has a decent sized screen. Is made by HTC and Looks good, so yeah, I'll purchase one.
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What!!......Huh..
you went to an ipad!!...
Android is beyond better

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What!!......Huh..
you went to an ipad!!...
Android is beyond better
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Well, I always had iPhone's up until the 4S was released, was then I switched to Android (S3) - As for tablet, it was easier for work having an iPad as I couldn't use a rooted Android for work.
I always used to say "If Apple built a bigger iPhone, I'd probably switch back" but I haven't seen the need. Not an Apple lover nor hater, to me an iPhone/iPad are superbly built devices, it's all personal preference. There is still Apple products in my household, I just choose not to use them. (except my Macbook)

Android and iOS= its like Liverpool and man united (love Liverpool and f&%£## hate man u.
Never used iOS or even want to! Would feel like I cheated on the Mrs!
Long live android
Just being honest. ?

Bug!

ordered the 16gb black model cause although i loved both n7s they were a bit small and i find i used them for 90% non-gaming/video watching so 4:3 is very appealing... also really like that htc is involved because of their build quality..

MRobbo80 said:
Android and iOS= its like Liverpool and man united (love Liverpool and f&%£## hate man u.
Never used iOS or even want to! Would feel like I cheated on the Mrs!
Long live android
Just being honest. ?
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I did use iphone 3 3gs 4 for some time
but that all changed when i got my nexus 7
and my apple hating vendetta started
I seen both sides
So i know Android is so much better!

Yep
Already ordered. Coming on nov 5
looks good so why not

Hagarbau said:
Yep
Already ordered. Coming on nov 5
looks good so why not
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Well done! See you around

Got it for the 4:3 ratio. I read on my tablet 90% of the time and this screen will be ideal for it.
Other reasons...Android is the best OS for tablets hands down as far as I'm concerned and this comes with very little bloat. Lots of development support. Battery life should be great. Speed, it will be fast as hell, expect zero lag. I think this will be the (near) perfect tablet for me.

Samsung's response to the iPad Pro.

Can't imagine a logical customer base for this.. Seems kinda ridiculous to offer a tablet so large without simply making it a laptop. A laptop size screen with the restrictions of a tablet? No thanks.
I'd like to hear other peoples opinions on this.. Maybe there is a use for it that I can't think of
Oh.. And FIRST. Jokes

First of all, it's not a response to the iPad Pro.
The only similarity is perhaps that both are fairly niche.
This is the sort of thing that might be used for presentations, exhibitions, or for a bedroom as part TV, part tablet/desktop (if used with a BT mouse/keyboard).
With news that Chrome OS is merging into Android, this thing may even become more useful in the future than anyone can think of right now.
Personally, I have no desire for one, but can see what Samsung is trying to do.

This is not trying to be a laptop, it is trying to be an entertainment device. So this is closer to a TV than a tablet. If you look at it, it is designed for watching Videos and other things like that. With that in mind, there is going to be some market for it, just do not know how big. There is a company, Nabi, that make a 20" and 24" "tablet", but they also are going for the entertainment device. They show some nice videos of people playing some nice multiplayer games, where it is laying on the table between them, sort of like the table that Microsoft was trying out a few years ago....
So, no this is not a response to the iPad pro... If anything, the iPad Pro is a response to the Samsung Note Pro 12" tablet. Samsung has done two lines of tables in the 12" area previously, maybe they will bring back the Note 12" if they want to compete with the iPad pro.
Thanks...

Samsung has history of introducing new type of devices like they did with the Note series or Galaxy Edge concept and many more. Apparently most of these are greatly successful. So we never know this could also gain popularity among users

Would be interesting thing if specs were better.
Now I will 100% sure miss this one, but if it got Snapdragon CPU, 3-4GB of RAM and hi-res display (really, 1920x1080??) situation might be totally different. And as a multimedia device this should relly come with AMOLED screen --> black would be black, no backlight bleeding.
Maby someday..

jonmorris said:
First of all, it's not a response to the iPad Pro.
The only similarity is perhaps that both are fairly niche.
This is the sort of thing that might be used for presentations, exhibitions, or for a bedroom as part TV, part tablet/desktop (if used with a BT mouse/keyboard).
With news that Chrome OS is merging into Android, this thing may even become more useful in the future than anyone can think of right now.
Personally, I have no desire for one, but can see what Samsung is trying to do.
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Which all makes sense with one glaringly obvious flaw in that idea.. It's touch screen only and does not have IR for use of a remote. How many people do you think are going to use this in business presentations when they have to tap the screen or use a wireless keyboard or mouse to change slides or pages? Can't imagine a scenario where this would be better to use than alternatives. But hey, it's Samsung.. People will buy it regardless of logic

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Which all makes sense with one glaringly obvious flaw in that idea.. It's touch screen only and does not have IR for use of a remote. How many people do you think are going to use this in business presentations when they have to tap the screen or use a wireless keyboard or mouse to change slides or pages? Can't imagine a scenario where this would be better to use than alternatives. But hey, it's Samsung.. People will buy it regardless of logic [emoji14]
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There are other Bluetooth controllers, but I'll admit it would have made sense to include one (or offer one designed specifically for it).

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There are other Bluetooth controllers, but I'll admit it would have made sense to include one (or offer one designed specifically for it).
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True that, and it would make more sense to actually market it towards this type of person.. Rather than just lazy people that want a portable streaming device that would be too uncomfortable to hold for long periods of time. Hence the stand. I've taken my tablet all around the house and streamed things off of it (Netflix mostly) and never once went "hey, what if I bought an 18 inch tablet that weighed over 2kg and didn't offer the convenience of a normal size tablet?"
Here's an Australian article looking at the functionality of the Galaxy View.
Seems very much like something you might benefit from if you're living on your own and don't want a proper TV (proper TV sucks anyway in Australia, hence my usage of Netflix) but probably not so much in a regular size house hold

First i'd like to say, Samsung released the Galaxy note pro 12.2 almost a year ago, so if anything, Apple is responding to Samsung. I own the note pro 12,2, which has Samsungs S pen, that doesnt need to be charged. I can also split the screen into 4 seperate windows, as well as cascading more windows on top of those.
Anyway, I will be purchasing the Galaxy View. I have always wanted a large tablet, and at 18.4 inches, the View will be perfect. I use my tablet for web surfing, digital magazines, comics, and lots of Madden, as well as some writing. I have a Samsung bluetooth mouse and keyboard if I need to do a lot of typing.
As far as specs, the screen resolution doesnt bother me for what I use it for. I also have a 17 inch laptop which I rarely use. Its just something about a tablet thats just more convient for me.
For me, i'm a fan of innovation, and for me, Samsung does it for me.
Just my opinion.
Galaxy note pro 12.2
Galaxy Tab S
Galaxy note 4 edge
Gear S
Gear S2
Acer 17 in laptop

Stevles said:
Which all makes sense with one glaringly obvious flaw in that idea.. It's touch screen only and does not have IR for use of a remote. How many people do you think are going to use this in business presentations when they have to tap the screen or use a wireless keyboard or mouse to change slides or pages? Can't imagine a scenario where this would be better to use than alternatives. But hey, it's Samsung.. People will buy it regardless of logic
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Samsung did think of this... It has an app called "Galaxy View Remote" that can be found in the Samsung App Store... works via Bluetooth using your phone or tablet.
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Shield 2?

I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?
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If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box

I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV

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I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
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The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.

Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.

There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.
http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/
Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/
I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.

just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
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As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.

I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.

Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/

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Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
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not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same
the new rear layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-
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the old layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.
Lost the Sd card slot now.
Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.

Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.
"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.

Why on earth would they take the sd card out?

HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.

does the original not have 2.0b

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Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
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it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.

Wishmaster2 said:
HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
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HUYI said:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
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Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.

Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.
On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.