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Think I'm going to be...

leaving android behind
Got an upgrade for a phone that I haven't used, and this thing just looks amazing
http://www.phones-online.org/phones...hones/new-htc-touch-hd3-picture-exposure.html
Unfortunately it will run wp7, which tears my heart out that it doesn't have android. Hopefully there will be someone that will root it and be able to install android on it since android is open source.
Pretty much identical to the evo with a better processor, .2 bigger screen, amoled display, 16gb internal storage with 32gb support of sd card, 1gb ram (vs 512mb on evo).
Camera will be probably as ****ty as evo, but it still lacks android. idk how well wp7 will perform but from what i've seen android is a lot better in my mind.
Might wait a few months after it's release to see if it gets rooted and droided to buy it. Even with hardware specs, I don't think I could make a move to wp7 from android.

wow, definitely too bad that's for winmo
Surely a comparable (or better) EVO successor won't be too far off

C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.

firemedic1343 said:
C'ya sucka!
The hardware is not that much better. The real selling point of any phone now is OS. And Android is a clear winner to me. WM7 or WebOS may be awesome in the future...but it will take time to catch up, especially in apps.
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uhm yes there is. amoled > lcd, up to 48gb of data, 2x amount of ram (meaning more 3d apps, and faster performing phone), and as we know the .3 inch on screen makes a HUGE difference, another .2 will be killer, and the processor is newer (still snapdraggon but newer).
It's like taking all the good things about an evo, and then taking all the good things about epic and putting it together, plus some more. If this phone is released and not just another rumor, it would kill iphone4. Same hardware specs pretty much plus bigger screen, and 4g. Then all the iphone4 fan boys will stop jacking off at the sight of their phone.
The only minus is wp7, but i'm pretty sure that some dev is going to figure a way to run android on it. An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense. Meaning that someone will be able to port the same exact rom as htc stock to it, but this might or might not happen.

IMO Android will see a similar device. Hopefully Sprint picks it up.
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Just got home a short time ago. While on the road with my EVO on the dash, it faithfully told me where I was going, allowed me to make/recieve calls via hands free bluetooth, all while streaming my music library from my server at home over 3g using Subsonic.
Yeah, sure, I can't wait to ditch this piece of crap for the latest piece of bling.
Win 7 Mobile. Multitasking???

Last-Chance said:
An android phone will never run wp7 because wp7 is not open source, but android is and so is htc sense.
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Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.

HondaCop said:
Since when is HTC Sense open source?
- Sent via my EVO from the back seat of your Momma's SUV.
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it's not open source per say, but with the right kernel it can be packaged into the phone.
And as for multi tasking, it does offer it. you can have multiple first party apps running. It's just limiting the 3rd party apps from running because of battery issues. I've talked to multiple people that have tested out wp7 and they say battery is conserved REALLY well by doing this. Cutting down on third party apps draining battery. And that htc has a smaller battery than the evo, but i bet the one on hd3 lasts longer.
But this all doesn't matter since I'm not looking to get wp7. You guys took me as if I was supporting wp7. The hardware would do wonders for android, hence why i want to see a port before i buy it.
BUT then again, from some sources that have told me that you will be able to play xbox arcade games on it which use some AMAZING 3d graphics for a phone, versus android which has well pretty ****ty 3d games.
and as far as navigating and calling goes, you will be able to accomplish that easily. And stream music, just not from subsonic.

It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.

Award Tour said:
It's fake. 1.5 GHz Snapdragons aren't coming out until Q4 2011.
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the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI

Last-Chance said:
the snapdragon could be fake, but the phone itself doesn't look like it. If you take a look at the demo that microsoft put together for the phones, you would see that it looks almost identical to this phone.
here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1tuzlU5GAI
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I'm 99% sure it's fake. That photo has been circulating around for a very long time now. If the CPU spec is faked, so is the rest of it. With the HD3 expect nothing more than the Desire HD but with more storage -- maybe a update to the single core 1.3 GHz CPU.

Besides, it ain't about what kind of tool you have, it's all about how you use it!

it's not fake, but it isn't what it should be. Did some digging around and found this.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/htc-hd7-pictured-and-specced-by-rumormongers-trying-to-outdo-one/
Well guess it wont be for sprint since it states gsm and crap. no cdma =/. + evo sized screen + only 8gb built in + kick stand looks cheap and gay. Only plus side is that its amoled

lol that kick stand looks horrible to me

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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 - just a large Galaxy Note

Samsung has just revealed the Galaxy Note 10.1 - it's 10.1-inch and "only" with the same specs of Galaxy Note:
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Specs:
1.4 GHz Exynos DC
10.1 Inch Screen (1280x800 Resolution)
Android 4.0
3 MP Cam
16GB/32GB/64 GB
S-Pen

Same specs as the Note, except for the camera. This has 3Mpixel camera as a main one. According to PCworld, the built-in S Note program spawns a window to the right of the Web browser, so as to take notes while still surfing. 7000mAh battery, Android 4.0 and will come in 16, 32, and 64GB models. Keep in mind this has the same resolution as the Note.
However, i still wouldn't buy it. The reason is portability.

meh ill pass i already have a Gtab 10.1, cant wait for the Note 2 tho .

Im a bit sad as it does not have 1920x1080.. would have been awesome though!

EarlZ said:
Im a bit sad as it does not have 1920x1080.. would have been awesome though!
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Don't you think that's an overkill for a tiny screen? I think 1280x800 or 1600x900 is plenty...
Many 30 and 40'' tv's still have only 1366x768.

Always the same discussion. The difference here is that you so not sit 10 inches from that 40" TV. You usually sit 10 feet away. So the screen is bigger but also you are farther away.
Also we are forgetting the big difference between the 5.3" and 10.1" Note, the smaller one is a phone, has 3G radio.
The good thing about this announcement is that it has ICS on it, and, as the internal hardware is the same as the 5.3" Note, it means it should not take much time to get a ICS ROM for our note. They just have to add drivers for the phone and FM radio parts.
kanej2006 said:
Don't you think that's an overkill for a tiny screen? I think 1280x800 or 1600x900 is plenty...
Many 30 and 40'' tv's still have only 1366x768.
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Agree with above

I was hoping it would be a new a15 processor, but sadly it seems that is not the case :-(
As great as the specs of the note are at present, they are going to be quickly over taken once the Snapdragon S4s and Tegra 3s start hitting the market.
Also the resolution of the screen, whilst acceptable, is going to look outdated in less than a month.
I know these are the perils of buying any high end android device, but I was hoping Samsung would be smart enough to be 1 step ahead. Seems not.

With Apple releasing a retina display for iPad 3 1280x800 is a bit underwhelming for a new tablet. It's not a penile screen though, so that differs from the note.
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Here's what Slashgear thinks about it:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-eyes-on-27215509/

One great thing about it is the bundled Adobe photoshop touch and Adobe ideas software that you get for free. They look really nice, and they cost £6.99 or $9.99 each to buy on their own, so it's great to have them included.
Would it be really optimistic to hope that once the original note gets ICS, those apps will be added to the Samsung app store for note owners to download for free?... Pretty please Samsung?

since the the galaxy note has basically the same hardware.. i wonder if we can just interchange roms

kanej2006 said:
Don't you think that's an overkill for a tiny screen? I think 1280x800 or 1600x900 is plenty...
Many 30 and 40'' tv's still have only 1366x768.
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Nothing is over kill. I dont know why TV comparisons got into this but it makes no sense what so ever.
purple zebra said:
I was hoping it would be a new a15 processor, but sadly it seems that is not the case :-(
As great as the specs of the note are at present, they are going to be quickly over taken once the Snapdragon S4s and Tegra 3s start hitting the market.
Also the resolution of the screen, whilst acceptable, is going to look outdated in less than a month.
I know these are the perils of buying any high end android device, but I was hoping Samsung would be smart enough to be 1 step ahead. Seems not.
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Zamboney said:
With Apple releasing a retina display for iPad 3 1280x800 is a bit underwhelming for a new tablet. It's not a penile screen though, so that differs from the note.
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These tablets feel like a refresh, probably the real game changer is the rumored Tab/Note 11.6 which is probably on a separate event.

No AMOLED display? sigh
Even though AMOLED colors, dynamic range, and 'white balance' (too warm) stinks, but, i'm accustomed to its super contrasty fakeness

Well yeah, same name but bigger, dont think they will upgrade it so much

Can it make phone calls? If not, then I perfer the 7.7

great ! I need the phone with the same size !

Personally I'm quite excited by this.
GSM Arena have reported that its the same screen as the standard Galaxy Tab but with a different Digitizer to support the S-Pen, According to them its quite a bit quicker than the S-Pen running on the 5.3" so hopefully the ICS upgrade will be including the new drivers to upgrade the performance of the pen.
Other than that, its a fantastic idea. Sit in the office all day designing using your regular Photoshop Set-Up with a Wacom tablet, Then go home and chill on your sofa and continue your design using your 10.1" Wacom Powered Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and then continue your work on the bus on your Wacom Powered 5.3" Samsung Galaxy Note 5.3.
This makes the device a designers paradise, I'm not a designer and I never will be... But I think this is a good shot by Samsung to try and take a device away from the regular Power-Users.

Zamboney said:
With Apple releasing a retina display for iPad 3 1280x800 is a bit underwhelming for a new tablet. It's not a penile screen though, so that differs from the note.
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lol. "penile"?

Think i'll wait for ver2 to appear in 12 months or so - it may have a quadcore by then, which would make it a real powerhourse for photo editing RAW files striaght from camera.

Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8000 - Discussion Thread (in stock)

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It is available for preorder at Negri Electronics for 750USD (a little steep imho)!
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-gt-n8000-galaxy-note-10-1-16gb-unlocked-white.html#.UBusDE3iYvv
Another infi here, use G Translate:
http://www.netbooknews.de/75937/sam...s-kommt-am-9-august-hardware-specs-bestatigt/
How to root video: http://androidroot.org/watch_video.php?v=3B53OKX72N7R
So, after many speculation it has a QUAD core CPU, 2GB RAM and a 5MP Camera. The only drawback is the 720 screen, not 1080, but anyway it is the perfect tablet imho, you can do everything with it!.
Will you buy it, and why?

That's WAY too expensive for a tablet.
Especially since it is a 16GB. They can't compete with prices like that.

lol 750 USD? this is gonna be a joke.

A Watcom digitizer is alone 200$ and when the tablet will be available on proper retail channels it will be around 550$. So, under that price it will worth every penny.

If the pen is not necessary, this is a subpar tablet. The TF700 is better.

This is the only thing that makes me want the tablet, SPen, and also Samsung build quality, i own the Prime and i know what i am talking about. TF700 suffers the same I/O problems like TF201.

I have been saving since introduction of first iPad to buy this. I have used windows tablets with wacom pens and only I know how frustrating that is.
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For that money they could provide NFC ...i don't understand the omission, you could pair it with your phone easily, Nexus 7 has it. At least it has BT 4.0.

it's a beautiful tablet with a great specs and s-pen but it's a little bit expensive.
i wonder what for the infra-red, remote control what, note 2 maybe?! samsung smart tv maybe?

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 also has IR for the control of TVs and other IR enabled devices.

BTW, this device has the Apt-x codec for bluetooth audio (also BT 4.0 I believe). This codec works great and is sort of rare right now. OS X has it built in but it's sometimes difficult to use (other codecs compete, for some reason). Anyway, there is presently only a handful of devices that use this. I want it as I own a Soundmatters Foxl that uses this codec. It works well and sounds better than regular bluetooth audio (which is marginal).
Note: It's interesting that OS X has this codec but iOS does not. Lame. Also, it's apparently one of the only Android device that uses it.

I hope it does have exFat support (ntfs in my dreams .. ), my Prime has it.

Nice commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbgBxr4H59A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing

diverblue said:
Having waited ages for this tablet's release the specs are disappointing. Not for me I'm afraid...still no Android tablet out there that I can justify purchasing
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What is it that you are missing?

Strange, why no 1080p? This one is top of the line Samsung tablet at the moment, should got at least 1080p. 1280x800 for 10.1" tablet is so yesteryear imo. Battery concern? Mali-400 can't handle 1080p?

brooon said:
What is it that you are missing?
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When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.

I really don't need 1080 screen resolution...it comes with age (worse eye site)
As for pen, it's something different because it has 1024 pressure levels, not just 256 like our Note does.
Another selling point for me is the inclusion of 2GB of RAM, dreaming of dual booting in Ubuntu (or in worst case WinRT which needs a lot of RAM).

diverblue said:
When I sit down and give it a bit more thought perhaps I am being over critical...I just can't get excited yet! Will have to wait and see how it fairs in hands on reviews. I just hope the S Pen calibration is improved over the N7000. As a left handed user I find it pretty poor and the continuous cycle of having to reset the 'left handed' calibration option in the pen options is just frustrating, especially on a device designed to work with a pen! A slight bump in screen resolution and processor speed would have been a nice touch, though on balance these aren't necessarily going to be deal breakers.
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Sorry for the slight off topic but Touch Screen Tune from the market sorts out calibration. Does need root.
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Also, if i activate the pen cursor in ICS i don't feel the need for any calibration.

[Q] Nexus 4, or Nexus 10? Which one would suit me more?

I realize it's a comparison between a phone and a tablet, but I really don't know which one to get at this point, so I'm hoping some people can possibly help me out
I was mainly interested in the Nexus 4 because of it's portability, camera (8MP), and it has cellular, which I might find useful. I haven't really messed with smaller Android devices though for too long (used 7-inch tablets), so I don't know how well I'll fair with the screen size. I also heard recently that the Nexus 4 wasn't on AOSP, and haven't really seen anything official saying it would ever be supported...
The Nexus 10 is clearly going to be a "slight" issue with portability. The camera is only 5MP, but I really don't know too much more then that (I'm sure there's other aspects to consider when comparing cameras other then megapixels). The screen size sounds amazing, and would be pretty entertaining for gaming and movies, and the resolution is even nicer. And from what I heard, this is the best device for AOSP currently Has no cellular however, but then again I don't think I would want to be using this thing for a phone either (perhaps I can get a hotspot?)
Hardware is another concern. If I assume right, the better the hardware, the longer the device will be supported by Google. With this in mind, the Nexus 10 would be the last device in the latest list of devices to stop receiving higher Android versions, due to the system specs (has more power to run later Android versions basically). Also, hardware determines how smoothly the device would operate as well. I'm certain that both the Nexus 4 and 10 can do the usual tasks without any issue at all, but gaming-wise, I feel the Nexus 10 would be better.
I also have a slight interest in trying to develop for Android in the future, with apps.
So basically:
Nexus 4 Benefits:
- Portability (main)
- Cellular
Disadvantages:
- No AOSP (yet anyway, if ever)
- Go out-of-date quicker
Nexus 10 Benefits:
- Hardware (main)
- AOSP
Disadvantages:
- Portability
- No Cellular (could maybe just get a hotspot though, idk)
As it stands currently, I can't really purchase either device at the moment (I don't have the funds or card from PayPal yet, Nexus 4 is out of stock, and Nexus 4 is a tiny bit more then I have in my PayPal currently). So I have a little bit before I can make a decision anyway Any help would be nice though.

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The only thing lacking on the hardware side for the N4 is the screen resolution. If it were 1080, that would've taken the cake. Everything else about the phone is top notch, which is much more than can be said about the GNex which had weak hardware to begin with. So I don't see the N4 as going out of date anytime soon.
Honestly all it's going to come down to is one is a phone, and one is a tablet. The N4 can do pretty much everything the N10 can do, just on a smaller scale.
I have a N4 arriving tomorrow, and am considering getting the N10. The N4 will be mostly a tool for me whereas the N10 would be for entertainment and possibly productiveness (organization, notes, typing, etc.), plus the N4 could provide a hotspot for the N10. I'd be using the N10 for browsing when possible, and gaming when desired. I feel like browsing on a tablet is much better than on a 4 inch phone, but that comes at a price of at least $399 which I'm not sure I am going to be able to justify. I also may look into the whole watching TV on the tablet scene, and possibly movies, but other than those few things, I have no idea what I'd use a tablet for.

none because its impossible to buy

If you're between the 4 and the 10, why not consider the HSPA version of the Nexus 7? More portable than the 10 and has the cellular data, but still has a larger screen than the Nexus 4.

Nitemare3219 said:
Honestly all it's going to come down to is one is a phone, and one is a tablet. The N4 can do pretty much everything the N10 can do, just on a smaller scale.
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Yeah that's true, I just need to figure out which device I would want sooner then possibly later. I like the thought of a larger screen for some gaming, and I feel it might be more useful around the house, and nice to take to bed to do some reading and stuff.
Not sure how gaming would really be on the Nexus 4; I mean it would be possible of course, I just don't know if I would quite enjoy it as much on a smaller screen.
With NFC, I did like to pay for things at a fast food place and pharmacy downtown when I had my Nexus 7, and people found it pretty cool The factor of paying with NFC exists for both the 4 and 10, although I do wonder what people's initial response would be if I tap a 10-inch tablet to the pay pass lol. Taking pictures outdoors in public is probably another case where a phone might be a more "acceptable" device to use, instead of a 10-inch tablet (there was some pretty funny picture posted on xda on N7's forums I think with someone using an iPad to take a picture in a group of other people with phones and cameras)
Kinda wish I had both devices to test before buying lol... maybe I should just make cardboard cutouts for both and see how convenient each would be for some tasks
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Nexus 10 (16GB) is still available for me to buy from Play Store:
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And I have the funds for it now on PayPal, still gotta wait for the card though
raptir said:
If you're between the 4 and the 10, why not consider the HSPA version of the Nexus 7? More portable than the 10 and has the cellular data, but still has a larger screen than the Nexus 4.
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I had the Nexus 7, but idk. I mean it was a pretty nice device, but both the 4 and 10 have better hardware. Plus I kind of wanted to try out a different form factor other then 7-inch

New tablet after a Nexus 7? Here is a worthy successor!

Lenovo Tab 4 Plus
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_4_8_plus-8603.php
It's slightly bigger than the Nexus 7, but not so much by comparison, as you can see here from a side by side:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vYDGB1BfzbWjhO9t2
Better specs, clean Android, beautiful screen and very, very well made hardware, with the additional Plus of having an SD-card slot. By now I am on my 4th Nexus 7, which I mainly use use for eBook reading and some casual gaming, but the problems with the USB slot and the easily defective memory are a nuisance and I have been on the market for an alternative for more than 3 years. The Tab 4 for me is that alternative.
I've had it for a couple of days now and while it is not wildly popular (yet), there is already TWRP available AND root through Magisk.
Finally a decent tablet with USB-C, nice hardware, very good screen time (basically sames as the Nexus 7) and an up to date Android version without significant bloatware (Except for Microsoft Office, which you can uninstall easily, since it's not a system app).
I hope to see a thriving community around this tablet; it's worth it and will please those who have been happy with their Nexus 7, but are looking for a more modern piece of hardware as a successor.

Lucky me I am still on the first one from day one ?
Just have to charge wireless since 6 month. Bud there is no factory Image coming so as long as custums are coming I am good to go. But the Lenovo looks promising

nvidia shield tablet....best

So this runs stock Android? If so, may be my next tablet.
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nvidia shield tablet....best
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its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?

gfunkzero said:
its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?
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I think 2gb is enough for games

AGREED!!!
When i first saw this, i thought, this is the only upgrade to my 4 year old nexus 7....but sadly lenovo did not launch the 4/64 version in India....i don't know what to buy now..iPad looks like the only choice

I'd suggest the Huawei T2 7.0 Pro. I have both it and the Nexus 7. The Huawei is lighter, smaller, better battery, slightly better CPU/GPU, Micro SD slot, fingerprint sensor.
Oh and it can take a micro sim and be used as a cell phone.
The only negatives:
Only works on 2.4ghz wifi
Android 5.01 only currently
No NFC
No wireless charging
Otherwise it is a worthy successor. There are tons of 8" tablets available but for sheer portability (and why the nexus 7 was so popular in the first place), the T2 is a viable option.
Huawei also had the Media Pad X2 7.0 which has far superior hardware but I have been unable to find one to purchase anywhere.
I also used the Nexus 7 primarily as an E-Reader (I have had it with junk E-Ink devices, kobo and kindle are garbage)
but my Nexus 7 has a stuck reboot loop issue if it powers down.
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its only got 2gb ram bit of a bottleneck these days right?
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Not only that, it's also got Micro-USB, not USB-C. Deal breaker.
Same goes for the Huawei, Micro USB.
The Lenovo is also availble in an LTE version. I don't need that, got a nice phone with an international contract as hotspot, so no more additional contracts for me, WiFi does the job for me.

The Lenovo does look like a solid device. For me the size though is a no go. Plus I have not seen it for sale anywhere in Canada. No clue what the supposed release date is.

What about superfish?

What tablets run stock Android or very close to? I want a tablet that will get new major Android releases.
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Pretty much only the Nexus 7 is stock.
That doesn't seem to matter though. Google discontinued updates on the Nexus 7 after Android 6.0.1.

Agree, and I see no sign of them releasing a new tablet anytime soon.
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Ya, I gave up waiting. Hence the Huawei that I have been using.

I just pulled mine out of the closet to check for updates and can't believe it still has a better screen then these Xiaomi phones I keep buying.

HatchetEgg said:
What about superfish?
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I have no idea what you are talking about.

DF5JT said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/02/19/superfish-need-to-know/#4dc6a76b3877

As bad as it's going to sound. I'm glad Apple is finally in the wireless charging game. Ya know they're likely to drop an iPad with it soon, and this may inspire the creation of other wireless charging tablets. It's really the only thing holding me back from replacing the Nexus 7 2013.

Mi max 2 ... Snapdragon...big battery..usb-c....not expensive
Minecraft story mode 2 is playable