I recently bought Pumpkin head unit to my Audi A3. HU itself is quite nice, fits like original, and software is surprisingly good and stable (I had some doubts but decided to buy it anyway). Problem is that there is no ACC wired in car's connectors, instead original unit is powered off via CAN. Now, when I turn off the engine, HU powers off too, while it should stay on, and power off when I pull the key from ignition switch. This means, I can't listen music without having all ignition powers turned on. I earlier had an Alpine HU, and it worked perfectly, eg. powered off when I pulled key from ignition switch.
Is there any way to tweak this behaviour in android side? Or is this CAN decoder's job? Other than powering off, CAN controls seems to work ok (multifunction wheel, dimming, etc).
Details from my unit are: RK3188, KLD6, 800x480. CAN-bus decoder doesn't have much info, just KLD(AUDI-SS-01), SS-AD011030158-0.
sohlo said:
I recently bought Pumpkin head unit to my Audi A3. HU itself is quite nice, fits like original, and software is surprisingly good and stable (I had some doubts but decided to buy it anyway). Problem is that there is no ACC wired in car's connectors, instead original unit is powered off via CAN. Now, when I turn off the engine, HU powers off too, while it should stay on, and power off when I pull the key from ignition switch. This means, I can't listen music without having all ignition powers turned on. I earlier had an Alpine HU, and it worked perfectly, eg. powered off when I pulled key from ignition switch.
Is there any way to tweak this behaviour in android side? Or is this CAN decoder's job? Other than powering off, CAN controls seems to work ok (multifunction wheel, dimming, etc).
Details from my unit are: RK3188, KLD6, 800x480. CAN-bus decoder doesn't have much info, just KLD(AUDI-SS-01), SS-AD011030158-0.
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Mine came with a harness that tied into my canbus, I'm sure your unit has the capability you probably just need the decoder that is specific to your vehicle. On a side note I to have a RK3188 800x480 and am looking for someone to pull the stock recovery. If you're willing let me know it won't harm your unit.
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dave5777 said:
Mine came with a harness that tied into my canbus, I'm sure your unit has the capability you probably just need the decoder that is specific to your vehicle. On a side note I to have a RK3188 800x480 and am looking for someone to pull the stock recovery. If you're willing let me now it won't harm your unit.
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Don't know about the decoder, it should be ok, at least there's "For: AUDI A3/A4" in it. Tried to google it, I can find lot's of same looking decoders, but not much helpful info about it.
I can pull the stock firmware, just need to learn how to do it. I've been doing electronics and linux stuff for ages, but Android world is still bit new to me.
sohlo said:
Don't know about the decoder, it should be ok, at least there's "For: AUDI A3/A4" in it. Tried to google it, I can find lot's of same looking decoders, but not much helpful info about it.
I can pull the stock firmware, just need to learn how to do it. I've been doing electronics and linux stuff for ages, but Android world is still bit new to me.
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http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/132314/can-we-backup-the-stock-recovery-img-in-any-way
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Ok, I will give it a try tomorrow.
Interested in the unit you bought.
I'm interested in your unit. Where did you buy it, could you please send me the unit's link?
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I'm interested in your unit. Where did you buy it, could you please send me the unit's link?
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Since I still have so low post count, I can't post links. Google "11-C1217-UK-A" and you will find correct HU from Pumpkin's website.
I sent question to Pumpkin too, and an answer from them: "it's normal when you turn the ignition key to off position the unit will switch off, cause the unit switching off is controlled by your car canbus system, and it sync with your car instrument panel".
Still, I don't consider this as a normal, since Audi OE head unit, and also earlier Alpine head unit didn't power off until I actually took the key off from the ignition switch. All Audi's I have and have had behaves like this, from the oldest Audi 80 (1994) to the newest.
So, is there any ways to analyze CAN data, and tweak the unit so that it would power off when key is taken away from ignition switch?
Dave, sorry I still don't have the recovery image, so busy days, and I'm missing USB cable to connect to the unit. But ADB is installed etc, so it will come eventually
sohlo said:
I sent question to Pumpkin too, and an answer from them: "it's normal when you turn the ignition key to off position the unit will switch off, cause the unit switching off is controlled by your car canbus system, and it sync with your car instrument panel".
Still, I don't consider this as a normal, since Audi OE head unit, and also earlier Alpine head unit didn't power off until I actually took the key off from the ignition switch. All Audi's I have and have had behaves like this, from the oldest Audi 80 (1994) to the newest.
So, is there any ways to analyze CAN data, and tweak the unit so that it would power off when key is taken away from ignition switch?
Dave, sorry I still don't have the recovery image, so busy days, and I'm missing USB cable to connect to the unit. But ADB is installed etc, so it will come eventually
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No rush whenever you have time my unit is working just no recovery.
I think I remember reading in the HU Q&A thread a way to change canbus options I'll try to find it.
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Hi sohlo....
I haven't answer for your prob, but i just want to say that my Greenyi HU run exactly like you suggest.......if i turn off, the HU still ON, and switch off only if i keep the keys out from the ignition.
So, it's possible.....but don't know how...sorry.....
sohlo said:
I recently bought Pumpkin head unit to my Audi A3. HU itself is quite nice, fits like original, and software is surprisingly good and stable (I had some doubts but decided to buy it anyway). Problem is that there is no ACC wired in car's connectors, instead original unit is powered off via CAN. Now, when I turn off the engine, HU powers off too, while it should stay on, and power off when I pull the key from ignition switch. This means, I can't listen music without having all ignition powers turned on. I earlier had an Alpine HU, and it worked perfectly, eg. powered off when I pulled key from ignition switch.
Is there any way to tweak this behaviour in android side? Or is this CAN decoder's job? Other than powering off, CAN controls seems to work ok (multifunction wheel, dimming, etc).
Details from my unit are: RK3188, KLD6, 800x480. CAN-bus decoder doesn't have much info, just KLD(AUDI-SS-01), SS-AD011030158-0.
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Hi there, ive recently installed the same on my A3 (well an android head) can you tell me the age of yours and what loom connector you bought? some of them mix the live and ignition live up and they just need swopping over.
PS are your rear speakers working? took me ages to fix mine
vettahead said:
Hi there, ive recently installed the same on my A3 (well an android head) can you tell me the age of yours and what loom connector you bought? some of them mix the live and ignition live up and they just need swopping over.
PS are your rear speakers working? took me ages to fix mine
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My A3 is 2005. I have ISO connectors (non-BOSE), since originally my A3 is single din and I converted it to double din. I have checked wires again and again, they seem to be fine. Permanent live goes where it should, and ACC hasn't been wired at all in car side, because of CAN power off. You have same Pumpkin HU?
My rears are working OK, I just have to set fader quite heavily to back, like 70-80%. I had the same problem with earlier Alpine unit, had to set fader way back.
SKOLSC said:
Hi sohlo....
I haven't answer for your prob, but i just want to say that my Greenyi HU run exactly like you suggest.......if i turn off, the HU still ON, and switch off only if i keep the keys out from the ignition.
So, it's possible.....but don't know how...sorry.....
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It seems that your unit is KGL/HuiFei (mine's KLD/Klyde), so there's propably some differences. Also CAN adapter might be different. Can you confirm this?
I was finally able to extract the stock recovery from the Update.img https://www.dropbox.com/s/9b3azwgmqm...overy.img?dl=0
This is from RK3188 800x480 KitKat 4.4.2 KLD6 2.81
Thanks to @RedScorpioXDA for his Rockchip Unpacker Tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2257331
dave5777 said:
I was finally able to extract the stock recovery from the Update.img https://www.dropbox.com/s/9b3azwgmqm...overy.img?dl=0
This is from RK3188 800x480 KitKat 4.4.2 KLD6 2.81
Thanks to @RedScorpioXDA for his Rockchip Unpacker Tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2257331
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Good to hear. I still haven't been able to get adb detect my unit, actually when I connect usb, even lsusb doesn't show anything. I have tried to turn on adb in the unit (adbon), but still no luck. Well, will continue to try
sohlo said:
Good to hear. I still haven't been able to get adb detect my unit, actually when I connect usb, even lsusb doesn't show anything. I have tried to turn on adb in the unit (adbon), but still no luck. Well, will continue to try
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I think the only way is to use adb over WiFi.
If you need to root your HU this is the method I used
Flashing a pre-rooted rom doesn't seem to be the only way any more. If you go to Settings->Factory Settings, and enter**#hct#root#* as the password, it enables root on the device.
This appears to be a permanent root which persists after reboots.
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So it seems, at least usb was all dead for adb. Need to study more, first time ever trying to debug Android.
Actually, seller agreed to accept return and refund the unit, so I might switch to HuiFei/KGL unit if I just get a confirmation that it works better. Now I just would like to know if this CAN issue is because of the CAN bus decoder, or because of unit configuration. It was mentioned earlier that GreenYi unit works, and it seems to be KGL, but then again, I don't know is it decoder or unit which makes the decision of power off.
sohlo said:
So it seems, at least usb was all dead for adb. Need to study more, first time ever trying to debug Android.
Actually, seller agreed to accept return and refund the unit, so I might switch to HuiFei/KGL unit if I just get a confirmation that it works better. Now I just would like to know if this CAN issue is because of the CAN bus decoder, or because of unit configuration. It was mentioned earlier that GreenYi unit works, and it seems to be KGL, but then again, I don't know is it decoder or unit which makes the decision of power off.
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One thing to check, go to factory settings enter 126 as password and verify your canbus is setup for Audi.
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dave5777 said:
One thing to check, go to factory settings enter 126 as password and verify your canbus is setup for Audi.
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Strange thing is that canbus is set to none. And if I set it to Audi (or anything else), steering wheel controls etc doesn't work at all.
sohlo said:
Strange thing is that canbus is set to none. And if I set it to Audi (or anything else), steering wheel controls etc doesn't work at all.
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That is strange, with it set to Audi does it stay on until you pull the key out? There's also a steering wheel mapping utility in factory setting I believe have you tried changing that with Audi selected? Make sure you take a screen shot of your original settings.
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I am thinking of buying new HU becouse my existing Hu from Hizpo PX3 7.1.2 is kinda wired, mostly because none of beetter DVR cams do not work.
So I am thinking of this one
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32934575168.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.78b03c00oKlwsb
anyone have experience with Eunavi HU?
It's similar to the one I have, it has a few problems with my Skoda Octavia.
It boots up every time it powers up taking about 20seconds.
The canbus doesn't work with all the steering wheel buttons.
The default apps are rubbish
The theme is shocking and you can't read the text properly.
Short of the power on issue, it's not too bad.
i see.. original rom I had on hizpo px3 had similar issues, like power up it was even longer.. but with hal9k rom or "malsik" that changed.
I'm still waiting on eunavi sending me the firmware so I can have a look at fixing the problems.
It's not a problem with it booting up each time, trust me.
I have a dash which goes into standby mode and it drains the battery in about 3-5 days of not using the car for a decent drive. I'm forever having to use jumper cables on the battery. I've since installed a switch, although you can use a relay - to make it boot up every time.
I've just bought this unit btw. I'll let you know how it goes in a month. Hopefully it can be modded.
Hi, how is the unit? Have you had any chance to use rca pre outs? I want to buy an android unit but the only thing stopping me is that Subwoofer preout are either of low voltage or doesn't work at all.
The seller claims its a 5v rca pre out for the sub.. Can you confirm this?
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Turbine1991 said:
It's not a problem with it booting up each time, trust me.
I have a dash which goes into standby mode and it drains the battery in about 3-5 days of not using the car for a decent drive. I'm forever having to use jumper cables on the battery. I've since installed a switch, although you can use a relay - to make it boot up every time.
I've just bought this unit btw. I'll let you know how it goes in a month. Hopefully it can be modded.
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Hi, how is the unit? Have you had any chance to use rca pre outs? I want to buy an android unit but the only thing stopping me is that Subwoofer preout are either of low voltage or doesn't work at all.
The seller claims its a 5v rca pre out for the sub.. Can you confirm this?
same issue here
So I have the same unit and the same power-problem, takes long to startup every time.
Tried swapping +BATT and ACC but that didn't help the drainage.
Also, mine doesn't hold the radio presets and USB2 doesn't work.
Left a message with Ali-E. to help me with this problem.
My car is a 2011 Dacia Sandero Stepway, which is Renault, basically.
**** solved ******
wire was crossed in the pigtail - radio preset hold, eq.settings hold and lots of other stuff fixed by installing Malays full ROM for PX6/STM32
have autI have autoradio android vw Eunavi I need the secret numbers to open the settings and the habit of adjusting the factory.
Hello all!
Brand new here and desperately looking for answers.
I just purchased a used 2019 Ford Fusion with an aftermarket head unit. Below are the details.
Tesla style PX6 SIX-CORE 13.6" VERTICAL SCREEN ANDROID 9 FAST BOOT
While I was impressed at first I’m having issues with the screen turning black but everything is still functioning properly. I’ve went through all the settings and turned off any sleep settings or anything that may have pointed to the screen shutting off. The only solution right now is pressing the reset button on the front which is difficult to do while driving because I have to insert a paper clip to reset it. It’s extremely inconvenient as it literally disables access to everything including all my heat/AC settings.
I’ve contacted Phoenix Automotive directly but they are of zero help unless I provide an order number.
Really in a pinch here as I use this vehicle to Uber with and it’s definitely preventing me from doing my job.
Any help or direction would be appreciated more than I could express!
Thanks so much in advance!
Jcamuso said:
Hello all!
Brand new here and desperately looking for answers.
I just purchased a used 2019 Ford Fusion with an aftermarket head unit. Below are the details.
Tesla style PX6 SIX-CORE 13.6" VERTICAL SCREEN ANDROID 9 FAST BOOT
While I was impressed at first I’m having issues with the screen turning black but everything is still functioning properly. I’ve went through all the settings and turned off any sleep settings or anything that may have pointed to the screen shutting off. The only solution right now is pressing the reset button on the front which is difficult to do while driving because I have to insert a paper clip to reset it. It’s extremely inconvenient as it literally disables access to everything including all my heat/AC settings.
I’ve contacted Phoenix Automotive directly but they are of zero help unless I provide an order number.
Really in a pinch here as I use this vehicle to Uber with and it’s definitely preventing me from doing my job.
Any help or direction would be appreciated more than I could express!
Thanks so much in advance!
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Randomly? After an amount of time? While running specific app?
Outside of that it could be a heat issue, or a loose cable connection.
Have you "opened" car console to inspect the back side of the head unit?
The more info you give the better
louforgiveno said:
Randomly? After an amount of time? While running specific app?
Outside of that it could be a heat issue, or a loose cable connection.
Have you "opened" car console to inspect the back side of the head unit?
The more info you give the better
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Thanks so much for your reply!
Yes, pretty randomly at this point with no specific amount of time. I tried narrowing it down to certain apps but it still does it with my phone disconnected and no apps running.
I did however notice that the unit seems to be pretty warm towards the top which coincidentally is right below vents. Any solutions you can think of for this?
I haven’t taken it apart yet as I just picked up this vehicle last week. I’ll be ordering the tools to access the unit.
I can’t find any documentation on this unit at all and that’s the most frustrating part.
Jcamuso said:
Thanks so much for your reply!
Yes, pretty randomly at this point with no specific amount of time. I tried narrowing it down to certain apps but it still does it with my phone disconnected and no apps running.
I did however notice that the unit seems to be pretty warm towards the top which coincidentally is right below vents. Any solutions you can think of for this?
I haven’t taken it apart yet as I just picked up this vehicle last week. I’ll be ordering the tools to access the unit.
I can’t find any documentation on this unit at all and that’s the most frustrating part.
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You're welcome. Yes in general the info only these units is very sparse...
So the black screens are happening while using Carlink/Android Auto connection?
Connected by usb?
Maybe a bad usb connection to phone?
Might find some useful general info here
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It’s baffling to me that a manufacturer would not provide support unless you provide an order number.
The black screen has happened when absolutely nothing was connected, even Bluetooth.
I’ve contemplated returning to the factory unit but at this point it would be challenging to find all the parts.
I love the unit, when it’s working. It’s just so inconvenient because I lose access to all my controls.
Again, everything continues to work when it goes to the black screen so it’s not that the unit is completely shutting down.
Jcamuso said:
It’s baffling to me that a manufacturer would not provide support unless you provide an order number.
The black screen has happened when absolutely nothing was connected, even Bluetooth.
I’ve contemplated returning to the factory unit but at this point it would be challenging to find all the parts.
I love the unit, when it’s working. It’s just so inconvenient because I lose access to all my controls.
Again, everything continues to work when it goes to the black screen so it’s not that the unit is completely shutting down.
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Might want to try a factory reset...
And yes, the support across the board from manufacturers is basically nil.
louforgiveno said:
Might want to try a factory reset...
And yes, the support across the board from manufacturers is basically nil.
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I’ve done a “restore factory settings” but haven’t figured out how to do a full reset.
Jcamuso said:
I’ve done a “restore factory settings” but haven’t figured out how to do a full reset.
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I think on that 1st page of the link i posted mentions how to get into recovery
Jcamuso said:
It’s baffling to me that a manufacturer would not provide support unless you provide an order number.
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Support costs money.
None of these head unit sellers will spend any time (and therefore money) helping you unless you are their customer.
Your order number also confirms the purchase date which gives them the out of warranty date.
Just because you have 1 of their units does not make you their customer. They are sold worldwide by resellers and support would have to come from them.
It isn't unique to head units or to Chinese sellers. If I buy something and it breaks then I take it to the shop I bought it from.
As to your issue, if everything is working perfectly when the screen goes black then I would remove my unit, open it up carefully and I would reconnect the screen ribbon cable ensuring it is connected properly.
j0hn83 said:
Support costs money.
None of these head unit sellers will spend any time (and therefore money) helping you unless you are their customer.
Your order number also confirms the purchase date which gives them the out of warranty date.
Just because you have 1 of their units does not make you their customer. They are sold worldwide by resellers and support would have to come from them.
It isn't unique to head units or to Chinese sellers. If I buy something and it breaks then I take it to the shop I bought it from.
As to your issue, if everything is working perfectly when the screen goes black then I would remove my unit, open it up carefully and I would reconnect the screen ribbon cable ensuring it is connected properly.
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Makes sense. I actually didn’t realize there were so many resellers of these head units. It was a mistake on my part to assume Phoenix Automotive was the only company who sold them. After doing some research I realized the party that I bought the car from could have purchased this head unit anywhere…
Thank you for the suggestion! I didn’t want to pull the unit out but it looks like this is my only option.
Jcamuso said:
Hello all!
Brand new here and desperately looking for answers.
I just purchased a used 2019 Ford Fusion with an aftermarket head unit. Below are the details.
Tesla style PX6 SIX-CORE 13.6" VERTICAL SCREEN ANDROID 9 FAST BOOT
While I was impressed at first I’m having issues with the screen turning black but everything is still functioning properly. I’ve went through all the settings and turned off any sleep settings or anything that may have pointed to the screen shutting off. The only solution right now is pressing the reset button on the front which is difficult to do while driving because I have to insert a paper clip to reset it. It’s extremely inconvenient as it literally disables access to everything including all my heat/AC settings.
I’ve contacted Phoenix Automotive directly but they are of zero help unless I provide an order number.
Really in a pinch here as I use this vehicle to Uber with and it’s definitely preventing me from doing my job.
Any help or direction would be appreciated more than I could express!
Thanks so much in advance!
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Is unit an FYT unit, post Android system information including MCU version
Yes, I believe it’s an FYT unit!
Jcamuso said:
Yes, I believe it’s an FYT unit!
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post Android system information including MCU version
Here ya go!
Jcamuso said:
Here ya go!
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Thanks, not an FYT based unit and have requested moderator moves to Android Head units forum.
Here are some posts related to your head from a search.
Search results for query: Rl7ac
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