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Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
How does the phone perform? Are you satisfied with it or does it lag considerably? A benchmark really means nothing other than bragging rights. If it feels fast and feels good then why worry about mflops?
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If you look in the developer forum just pick one of the ROMs and you will find info on enabling JIT
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My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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whether you updated via flashtool or through seus or pc companion, to optimize your phone is very simple especially if not wanting to root or install custom roms. download latest flash tool, once installed and up and running. make sure your phone is set on debug mode. connect to usb and plug into comp. though you may not want the apps that are in the custom folder. hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files. this will bring mflops up and quad scores up. it however will not give very high scores. quad will be around 800-850 tops. mflops will be increased to about 20-30 maybe 35. notice on quad when running the rotating planets test. you might hit 33fps!!! instead of the supposed 30 that its only suppose to get. if you run neocore test you might only peg and 25-28. Good Luck!!
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try running the test again after the unit has settled down (no activity for a while). you might get different results.
hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files
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Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
xxcysxx said:
Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
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like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
min free kb: 900000
dirty ratio:500000
dirty background:200000
vfs cache pressure:10
Oom allocating: checked
like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
TidusWulf said:
holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
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no the one at the top where it says your device. 2233
or how about now after i modded my sysctl settings.screen shot below taken just seconds before this post
xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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Install JIT from here.
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Install JIT from here.
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i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4, and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result..
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thank you for your respond again.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores.
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will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!!
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yes, i done this already. but still learing on settings.
i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
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on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
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i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
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i have a question about xrecovery.
are you familiar with bare metal restore, acronis true image, or norton ghost.
i use these software to customize my laptop for different occations. whether i use my laptop to play games with my buddies at break hours durring schools, or do homework assignments in the library, or other general work. all i have to do is lay the image at boot and i have a completely different pc. it can be any os using any software customize in anyway, and took about five to ten minutes to lay down the image.
now back to the xrecovery question. can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
thanks again, your time and help is very much appreciated.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Bold step... always worth a shot.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
i always keep several older phones for camera use, or other things so this is always a good idea.
will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i agree in holding off, really overclock widget should be utilizes when operating stock 1.6. anything after that 2.1 2.2 2.3 their optimized with jit or are optimized enough without it
on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
these settings, im actually getting stats on this today as i was modding my phone alot yesterday and did not much have chance to let charge until last night. will let you know how well those settings work through out the day.
i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
to my knowledge is has not been tampered with by sony, cant recall if the dev had placed any se apks in theme. but it is a great rom. so is blue sparks. if going 2.1 anyway. these are roms and not just themes overlay. so should be as open source as the dev made it.
i have a question about xrecovery, can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
yes you can. when in xrecovery, go to back up and restore. and backup. this will save all settings, phone book, contacts text message, everything! if not happy with custom software you have installed. just go back to xrecovery>backup and restore> restore. back to 2.1 software before the custom rom
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
the JiT version that is with the new flashtool is JiTv2 i believe.. dont quote me on that. i believe it is as i have looked at the files in the optimizer and compared them to the copy of JiTv2 i have saved on my comp. to my knowledge, there is only two versions. again, dont quote me on it. i havent seen an chatter going on about newer versions so this might be all we get. not sure though
thanks again, your time and help is very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
always happy to try and help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935919
Refer this
Cheers!
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SErooted said:
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Sorry took so long to kget back to you. hope you catch this.
Sysctl settings really dont make large change in how fast all functions of the phone operate. most increase in performance for settings is shutdown and power on time. as well as a little better scrolling of menus.
basically running the 2.2 software from z or trip, adding the data2sd.zip will get you well into having quad scores of 2+++. if aiming for higher closer to around 3000. which i am very near doing. ill show when i have the proof not till then
anyway, getting mid 2+++ scores and higher, do require using something like set cpu or Overclock widget, in order to get your phone to run at top speed while doing the test..
after that run a test then another and so on until you have achieved what is perfect W/O for you.
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i did tried the setting parameters you suggested earlier before your latest post and i found the improvement is not that noticable, but the battery did die very quick. i found the original configuration work just fine at this point.
i'm still doing some reading on the custom firmware to make sure i make the proper approach without any hickups. i still have a lot of school work to finish and a part time job so the custom firmware is moving along quite slowly.
Can someone point me in the right direction about overclocking the vibrant to 1.2ghz. And things that I should worry about. Thanks
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fear676 said:
Can someone point me in the right direction about overclocking the vibrant to 1.2ghz. And things that I should worry about. Thanks
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go into the development section and look for a thread that says [Kernel] Overstock and start reading
You can do two things:
Install a kernel that allows overclocking and use a program like SetCPU to turn up the speed.
or
Install Tegrak from the market.
You will need to experiment with different settings and voltages depending on your particular device.
Just like the guys said, Go to the dev forum and look for a kernel called Overstock. Download the 2.4.1 version and use tegrak to overclock from 1.0-1.3. Your choice.
Has to be said though, not every Vibrant handles overclocking so on the first sign of things going wrong, like sudden lags and reboots stop OCing.
Step one: Get root
Step two: Read about how to get root
Step three: Install a custom oc kernel
Step four: Post additional threads later on asking why your battery life sucks
Step five: Post additional threads later on asking why your phone isn't very stable
Step six: Post additional threads later on asking why your phone is broke.
Step seven: Get a new phone or send the one you have back to T-Mobile or Samsung
Step eight: Hope they (T-Mobile/Samsung) doesn't find you that you voided your warranty by achieving step 1.
Point taken thanks. I think I wont mess with OC.
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Step one: Get root
Step two: Read about how to get root
Step three: Install a custom oc kernel
Step four: Post additional threads later on asking why your battery life sucks
Step five: Post additional threads later on asking why your phone isn't very stable
Step six: Post additional threads later on asking why your phone is broke.
Step seven: Get a new phone or send the one you have back to T-Mobile or Samsung
Step eight: Hope they (T-Mobile/Samsung) doesn't find you that you voided your warranty by achieving step 1.
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Point taken thanks. I think I wont mess with OC.
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Now don't get me wrong... many LOVE to overclock their devices. There are some great advantages to it.... but however there are drawbacks as well.
I was one of the very few that fried the insides of my phone by overclocking it. It couldn't detect the internal storage. I'm not saying which one it was b/c I don't want to single anyone out and that's not what I'm trying to do. What I am trying to do here is to point out that sometimes the risks are not worth the rewards. Yet another example is the oc kernal that I'm currently using. See signature. It's great! I can also run Avatar (most custom kernals won't let you and you will get an error when you try to play the movie) and it has BLN which is a MUST for me. But when I tried to install it, it completely wiped my internal storage. My backups and everthing. *POOF!* Gone. Again... it's a risk that you take and you will never realize it until AFTER you get the feeling of regret. It could happen immediately, it could happen months from now. Heck... it may never happen. But is the risk really worth it? If yes, then go ahead. If not... just stick with stock.
This is what im talking about. Otherthreads sugar coat things but you Sr. Gave me an honest answer
And I thank you for it.
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Look at my signature. Yeah, it's fast as hell.
Crashing? Lol...none. It is VERY stable. Battery problems? 20 hours with moderate use. I would say it impacts it about 5-10% total even with my insane overclock.
Do note also that my phone doesn't like overclocking much in general. Many kernels in the past had stability issues past 1.3Ghz but I'm glad to say I have finally found my sweetspot and this thing is BLAZING
I haven't heard of anyone really "killing" their phone with an overclock. Worst you would do is random freezes requiring restarts cause you pushed it too much. You won't harm your phone, it just won't be stable if you go too far.
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Now don't get me wrong... many LOVE to overclock their devices. There are some great advantages to it.... but however there are drawbacks as well.
I was one of the very few that fried the insides of my phone by overclocking it. It couldn't detect the internal storage. I'm not saying which one it was b/c I don't want to single anyone out and that's not what I'm trying to do. What I am trying to do here is to point out that sometimes the risks are not worth the rewards. Yet another example is the oc kernal that I'm currently using. See signature. It's great! I can also run Avatar (most custom kernals won't let you and you will get an error when you try to play the movie) and it has BLN which is a MUST for me. But when I tried to install it, it completely wiped my internal storage. My backups and everthing. *POOF!* Gone. Again... it's a risk that you take and you will never realize it until AFTER you get the feeling of regret. It could happen immediately, it could happen months from now. Heck... it may never happen. But is the risk really worth it? If yes, then go ahead. If not... just stick with stock.
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This is not related to overclocking your CPU, sir. This is related to you installing Dead Horse, a custom kernel which HAS the bug that it WIPES storage on some phones when it is installed. NOTHING to do with overclocking. Now, this has been fixed in its newer versions but when you used it, apparently it was still there. It was posted in BOLD BIG RED LETTERS that it will wipe your storage when you install it, I'm sorry that you couldn't read it or chose to ignore it. ALL CURRENT kernels are safe to use. They will not wipe or delete or do anything unusual to your phone after you install them.
As far as heat produced due to overclocking. I can reach 57C with a stock 1Ghz kernel as well as my 1.48Ghz current kernel. Granted, if I push my 1.48Ghz to 40C or higher, it starts crashing. I use a SetCPU profile to throttle it down to 1Ghz when the phone gets too hot so it doesn't crash. Usually it runs at 24-35C. Note that 40C feels rather hot when holding the phone and 50C feels like you are holding something on FIRE. Still, it is fine working in these temperatures (even if it is not good for it).
Overclocking with this phone is very "safe". The worst you can do is push it to where it is unstable and then it will TELL you its unstable and you've pushed it too far by CRASHING the phone. It is pretty obvious. It won't fry the phone. It won't damage it. And god forbid, it doesn't randomly wipe your storage. However, it WILL technically void your warranty. So if you DO break your phone due to something else and want to send it in for warranty, don't say you overclocked. Samsung and T-Mobile really don't have a way of telling if it was overclocked if you revert everything back to stock (ROM and kernel).
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It was posted in BOLD BIG RED LETTERS that it will wipe your storage when you install it, I'm sorry that you couldn't read it or chose to ignore it. ALL CURRENT kernels are safe to use. They will not wipe or delete or do anything unusual to your phone after you install them.
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Yeah... he added that after I told him (post 38) about the issue my friend. And in post 43 he updated the OP smartass. Thanks anyway. I think I know how to read. Look I gave him an honest answer. There are always risks to doing anything. Can you deny that? If the device was specifically built to be overclocked past 1ghz then it would have been designed for it. I'm glad that everybody is having positive experiences but I'm a REALIST. I see posts all of the time where people have had problems with battery life, instability, wiped or destroyed storages, etc. I am an experienced user that does read the threads (regardless of what you think) and I feel that he should be warned. Yet, even I experience some of the very issues that I read about. Which is why I READ about them. You know what... I hope that something happens to yours. I really do. Just so you will actually know for certain what you're talking about because you're misleading the OP.
And in regards to this statement "I haven't heard of anyone really "killing" their phone with an overclock. Worst you would do is random freezes requiring restarts cause you pushed it too much. You won't harm your phone, it just won't be stable if you go too far."
How can you explain these?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11576415&postcount=259
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955593
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956164
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955623
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957675
And more information for the OP that contradicts your 100% safe theory and your statement that you've never heard of anything getting "fried" then how else could my phone get a bad BGA component that required to replace the entire PBA? Oh! I forgot! That's normal... huh.
So your turn. Give us 100% undeniable evidence that it's 100% safe. Otherwise stop misleading people in the threads.
And if "ALL CURRENT kernels are safe to use. They will not wipe or delete or do anything unusual to your phone after you install them." was actually accurate then there wouldn't be the issue with Dead Horse now... would there? In my book that is a contradiction.
Look... not trying to discourage anybody here from at least trying it. But I'm saying that unless you want to have a quadrant score race or something like that then there is really no benefit to overclocking your phone. And by the way... it's a P-H-O-N-E. If you can place and receive calls then you are fullfilling it's intents and purposes. It has other features such as internet, mms, camera, speaker for playing music, etc. But it's no more a computer than it is a Kodak camera, Bose stereo, etc.
By current I mean CURRENT. Dead Horse doesn't wipe anymore I believe (though I stopped using it a good while back). Just about all T959 based kernels out now (DoW, Dragon, Overstock, Tiger's Blood, Bullet) do not have issues regarding to overclocking.
Also note the Hummingbird is a Cortex processor rated up to 1550mV or in other words 1.55V. The highest OCing Kernels push 1.5 Volts. Technically, this means the CPU is still within specs and hence why it is stable for the majority of people. Not all CPUs can do it though due to the physical layout of the PCB and phone and hence why it fails for some. Can it do pernament damage if you overclock?
If it crashes due to being unstable and you never restart it for an hour or so, it WILL likely do some damage. This is why I'm saying if you do it properly, it is safe to do. If you do it improperly, it does have a chance of doing damage to your phone though still unlikely.
ONE thing TO note however is that overclocking WILL shorten the lifespan of the CPU. Typically I believe processors are rated for roughly 50 years of usage. Overclocking will shorten that to roughly 10 years (with very extreme overclocking). This is still past the 2-3 years most people will keep it.
PS: Most of those bricks you linked were from an older version of the DOW kernel which had that "chance of bricking the phone" for a few days, kinda like Dead Horse had the "chance of wiping your memory". It was quickly taken down I recall and fixed but it did brick some people.
I'm not saying overclocking is foolproof. If you do it wrong, you will require a re-flash of the phone and in rare cases can cause damage to the hardware (Yes, it CAN. But you'd have to screw it up with either high temperature or over 1.55Volts). However, overclocking this phone is much safer than overclocking anything else.
Why is overclocking necessary afterall? Only for marginally higher quadrant scores? What real world app benefit from overclocking? I am sure it reduces battery life. So in my opinion - for normal use of phone, not only you don't gain anything but you lose something.
Zup everybody.
Im a new android user and im loving it. With Nexus 10 to be my first android device im very happy with it after i installed ktmanta Kernel.
although i had very litte knowlidge about what roms and kernel is/was i went for it anyways. It improved my experience alot, and everything is running real nice. Also gta vice city doesent lag at all. it lagged like hell before the kernal install.
Now i have few questions and i hope someone out there could help me with. ive seen a few threads on this forum and everyone seems to be nice unlike other forums (no names mentioned)
When i flashed (i think its called that way) the ktmanta kernel i knew that everything would dissapear, but im wondering now if there is a way to backup exact everything before loading a new rom or kernel?
also. when i play gta vice city i use min/max 1500/1500 on the cpu and it works really nice. the only problem is that i have to manually change it and after i have played the game i have to go back and change it to 200/1700 again.
can i somehow make an ikon that i push and the cpu go to 1500/1500 and if i push another icon it will go on the other setting? something like that?
Ive seen folks wright on forums that there is an app that can make your battery life better but never mention such app.
i have batterycalibr, is that the only one?
And the last question is, is there something you could recommend to a new android user (apps,widgets, specific roms, etc) ?
Im loving the android experience and im considering to sell my iphone 5 and buy a droid phone.
(please i apologize if my grammar or spelling isn't at the top)
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Zup everybody.
Im a new android user and im loving it. With Nexus 10 to be my first android device im very happy with it after i installed ktmanta Kernel.
although i had very litte knowlidge about what roms and kernel is/was i went for it anyways. It improved my experience alot, and everything is running real nice. Also gta vice city doesent lag at all. it lagged like hell before the kernal install.
Now i have few questions and i hope someone out there could help me with. ive seen a few threads on this forum and everyone seems to be nice unlike other forums (no names mentioned)
When i flashed (i think its called that way) the ktmanta kernel i knew that everything would dissapear, but im wondering now if there is a way to backup exact everything before loading a new rom or kernel?
also. when i play gta vice city i use min/max 1500/1500 on the cpu and it works really nice. the only problem is that i have to manually change it and after i have played the game i have to go back and change it to 200/1700 again.
can i somehow make an ikon that i push and the cpu go to 1500/1500 and if i push another icon it will go on the other setting? something like that?
Ive seen folks wright on forums that there is an app that can make your battery life better but never mention such app.
i have batterycalibr, is that the only one?
And the last question is, is there something you could recommend to a new android user (apps,widgets, specific roms, etc) ?
Im loving the android experience and im considering to sell my iphone 5 and buy a droid phone.
(please i apologize if my grammar or spelling isn't at the top)
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1. Try using titanium backup to backup your app data and you can restore it once you flash a new ROM/kernel. Remember, only backup app data, NOT system data or you may result in bootloops.
2. Not 100% sure if you could use the KTweaker app or SetCPU to set profiles when you're gaming but you might want to look into that. That being said, you shouldn't have to set your min at 1500 to have fluid gameplay, or at least I don't think so and it will drain your battery much faster. IMO, check out the franco kernel if you want to have the smoothest gameplay with no tweaking necessary and no drops in framerate.
3. I really don't believe in all of that battery calibrator, juice defender, or any other app that claims to significantly increase battery life. However, if you are going to use the KTManta kernel, you can undervolt your device and get some pretty awesome battery life.
4. What kind of apps, widgets, etc. are you looking for? Find out what your style is and customize accordingly. That's the awesome thing about Android!
Hope this helped... :good:
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1. Try using titanium backup to backup your app data and you can restore it once you flash a new ROM/kernel. Remember, only backup app data, NOT system data or you may result in bootloops.
2. Not 100% sure if you could use the KTweaker app or SetCPU to set profiles when you're gaming but you might want to look into that. That being said, you shouldn't have to set your min at 1500 to have fluid gameplay, or at least I don't think so and it will drain your battery much faster. IMO, check out the franco kernel if you want to have the smoothest gameplay with no tweaking necessary and no drops in framerate.
3. I really don't believe in all of that battery calibrator, juice defender, or any other app that claims to significantly increase battery life. However, if you are going to use the KTManta kernel, you can undervolt your device and get some pretty awesome battery life.
4. What kind of apps, widgets, etc. are you looking for? Find out what your style is and customize accordingly. That's the awesome thing about Android!
Hope this helped... :good:
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Thanks for the fast answer.
IF i dont set my min to 1500 gta vice city laggs.
I downloaded the Franco kernel from play store bit nothing happend...
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Thanks for the fast answer.
IF i dont set my min to 1500 gta vice city laggs.
I downloaded the Franco kernel from play store bit nothing happend...
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You have to flash the kernel with the app. It should be a very fast and easy process.
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You have to flash the kernel with the app. It should be a very fast and easy process.
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Thanks alot mate. I payed for the Franco kernel and then downloaded a file and had to restart my tablet. I guess i did the process right.
Now gta runs really nice without me putting min/max at the same mhz
Can i delete the ktweakert now ?
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Thanks alot mate. I payed for the Franco kernel and then downloaded a file and had to restart my tablet. I guess i did the process right.
Now gta runs really nice without me putting min/max at the same mhz
Can i delete the ktweakert now ?
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Yep! You won't be needing it anymore. I'm glad everything worked out for you!
I am sorry if what im about to ask is already posted somewhere (probably is), but this forum is pretty vast and I couldnt find what im looking for. The question is this, Im using Vanir ROM. Now with the inbuilt kernel I had around 20k benchmark on antutu. I flash hells core, excited to see any difference and whoop, i got 14k. Also i checked the part with 3D testing and fps was higher for about 5-7 points. So what Im asking is this,What is the meaning of this and also how can I, how to put it to not sound noobish, tweak the kernel to perform/save battery etc.?Because Im assuming thats not the top what HellsCore kernel can do, am I right? Or if you guys have any kernels to recommend, all is appreciated. Also if this helps, Im using Nexus 4, Vanir ROM(as posted above) and dont know what else would you need to know to answer.
Thanks in advance
/So I rebooted and now I am on 20840 for some reason.
Benchmarks are not very conclusive abnout anything. Each phone is different each user has different needs and how and where there phone is used. Everyone will tell u to try this kernel and that kernel but u just have to find one that works for you
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Benchmarks are not very conclusive abnout anything. Each phone is different each user has different needs and how and where there phone is used. Everyone will tell u to try this kernel and that kernel but u just have to find one that works for you
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I get that, i was more concerned about those numbers. Why did it drop to 14k and then went to 20k again.
Probably some patches were included in the rom's kernel, which can affect the scores.
When you flashed another kernel (helldoctor), you stopped using these patches, so scores went down.
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Almayce said:
I am sorry if what im about to ask is already posted somewhere (probably is), but this forum is pretty vast and I couldnt find what im looking for. The question is this, Im using Vanir ROM. Now with the inbuilt kernel I had around 20k benchmark on antutu. I flash hells core, excited to see any difference and whoop, i got 14k. Also i checked the part with 3D testing and fps was higher for about 5-7 points. So what Im asking is this,What is the meaning of this and also how can I, how to put it to not sound noobish, tweak the kernel to perform/save battery etc.?Because Im assuming thats not the top what HellsCore kernel can do, am I right? Or if you guys have any kernels to recommend, all is appreciated. Also if this helps, Im using Nexus 4, Vanir ROM(as posted above) and dont know what else would you need to know to answer.
Thanks in advance
/So I rebooted and now I am on 20840 for some reason.
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Anututu and other benchmarks depend on a number of factors/conditions which affect the final result . The major conditions which affect it result are below
1) The CPU temperature !! When ur phone gets hot the CPU throttle will automatically reduce the active cores and the clock speed to cool down your CPU !! This results in decrease in performance !! When you flash new kernels its possible that ur phone is hot and hence performance decreases
2) Using your phone while running tests also affect the results . for eg if there is a notification during the test or background sync going on it will affect the result
3) probably the kernel packed with vanir had 4 cores active all the time to increase scores and hells core has just 2 cores active ( at a given moment) will mean decreased performance
The ideal way to test kernels is as follows
1) Dirty flash your ROM before flashing kernel
2) Reboot your device after the first boot
3) Let it settle down for an hour
4) turn of data/WiFi during the test
5) see the kernels specs( like cores active/the maximum CPU speed) through an app like trickster/faux clock
6) Now run the test
7) after test let your phone cool down for 15 mins
8) repeat the test a few times and take the average of all scores
Kindly hit the thanks button as a token of appreciation
Antutu was never accurate if you ask me. Sometimes it goes down and the other it went up..so..
I see, thank you guys.
Benchmarks are like putting makeup on.
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Post 1 : General discussion of experience, crashes etc.
Post 2 : Link to the kernels
Post 3 : FAQ(to me )
Post 4 : Important Must Read stuff.
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[size=+2]The Beginning[/size]
After much waiting and ETA posts by users, when DN3 v5+ was launched, it was met with quite some positive reviews, and being a loyal user to that rom since v2(why, you ask. It's because I like stock like looks that come with my phone, but under the hood optimizations and available customizability and features).
And just in time, Samsung had released the kernel sources for Touchwiz kitkat, so everyone including me were waiting for a good custom kernel, which would allow us to tweak our device to a further extent. During some random discussion @singhpratik87 informed me about an upcoming custom kernel called Nadia kernel, which was made by a small group of devs and modders calling themselves as EmoTdroiD Team.
So, as experiment hungry scientist for my device I am, I went ahead and flashed it. After just some time, I saw that it wasn't yet fully mature and still under construction, although it gave me a good amount of tweaking with the Trickster Mod and a usable battery life, so I went on to search for other kernels too, which would be satisfying my needs, and I found AGNI and Phoenix kernel compatible with my device and rom.
When I started using those, I noticed that many users wanted to know of a good custom kernel they could use, and thus kept spamming different threads asking questions, so I got an idea that I will test the kernel thoroughly and do a proper writeup, so users can be better informed of their needs.
[size=+2]The testing begins[/size]
As I had to begin the test and be thorough with everything I quickly bookmarked some guides to reading a logcat, downloaded tools on PC to capture logcats from boot to shut-down, downloaded each and every kernel and recommended fixes(if any).
I thought of beginning with my stock kernel, since it is the one deemed as the most stable. I got a good battery life but not the advanced tweaking. So, at first I decided to test the most near to stock phoenix kernel, which doesn't have much customisability but is quite stable(for me) for my daily use, but I always have wanted advanced tweaking, so I decided to go for the highly acclaimed AGNI kernel, followed by the under development Nadia kernel.
[size=+2]Stock kernel and Phoenix kernel[/size]
Obviously a starting point for testing the rom itself, I started with the stock kernel. My governor for all the time was pegasusq due to it being optimized properly for multicore systems, but I realized that my music used to have a bit of stutters every 15-20 seconds, so I read and read and found the cause, which you can find on the 31st page of the Nadia Kernel thread(don't be lazy, search for it, I have at least provided the link for the thread ), so I set up profiles suing Xposed module performance profiles and had the switch to ondemand governor whenever I wanted to listen to music, and that made for a smooth experience for me.
As the technology on device gets faster and better, there is one thing we crave for - battery life. Although I got 5 and half hours screen time with 24 hours sage on stock, I still wanted more, seeing that people managed to get upto 7hrs screen time with that usage(I don't know whether they listened to music for at least an hour everyday, though). What can be the best way for getting a better battery life? Underclock? not any way, I want my device to perform to it's full potential rather than be a super sluggish long lasting one. Any more guesses? Undervolting, you say? Yes, that's just what I needed, CPU/GPU undervolting and better control on the governors and LMK(low memory killer).
[size=+2]Reading, Researching, Writing and considerations of various possibilities[/size]
Many of the users who have known me from the time I've joined XDA know that I'm of the kind who is willing to spend his time in reading and solving problems on his own, rather than ask questions repeatedly, so that's what I did again - start reading :cyclops:
I read about the problems faced, questions asked, solutions provided, suggestions given and the proper changelog and FAQs for the kernels.
I researched about how users feel with a kernel, I saw their comments on the threads, I read about their problems faced, their attitude towards the developers and fellow members(which can turn out to be a bit-off when someone is unable to find a solution and gets frustrated) and what they have done to obtain something or how they managed to correct their problems.
Now, after compiling all the things I read and researched about into a small 30+ page word document I wrote to myself, it was time for me to flash a good custom kernel.
Again, which do I go for first? I had to spend my time thinking about the possibilities taking place and the issues I read about :
1) AGNI had some problems with downloading of some apps(Fixed now, but was present when I had to test).
2) AGNI doesn't play well with folder-mount(Dev is working on fix).
3) Nadia gave a bootloop when flashed over AGNI ( as reported by @NickVXD).
4) Some users lost root access when flashing Nadia(Rare and fixed in latest R4).
5) Nadia uses Trickster Mod and thus doesn't provide a full fledged GUI for tweaking the parameters( Dev plans to integrate the best app for this, Synapse, in a bit of time).
[size=+2]It begins with AGNI[/size]
After much thinking, I decided to go for AGNI first, because a bootloop and lost root aren't a big issue for me, as I always keep the fixes with me and know how to recover from these small issues.
I made a nandroid backup, in case for a bootloop, flashed the kernel and wiped cache and dalvik cache and rebooted and I was greeted with my lockscreen(yes it booted successfully) and AGNI control app in my app drawer. I began my testing for the lower clocks, conservatively ramping governors, high undervolts( my device can bear upto -80 on CPU and -75 on GPU while still being stable) and lower GPU clocks, because the first thing I wanted was battery life and indeed I got it.
Then, since I was at home only for a long time(many know why) and had thge charging port next to me(lucky me ) so I decided to give a try to other settings as well. The first thing I wanted for my device was a good read speed for my internal and external SD, so I benchmarked and logged performance for each scheduler over an extensive period of time and found Row suited my needs, because I don't write lots of stuff onto my device's memory, but rather need higher priority for reading of the already present memory blocks.
I tested with different governors now and the name of each is self explanatory so I won't tell which gave me the best battery life or performance. Anyways, I tested the smoothness, battery life, framerate in general use to heavy games, device temperature and noted down each and every value thoroughly.
I benchmarked the SD card read write with different cache sizes and noted down each value.
I tested different LMK minfree values and wrote down the results to myself.
I tested the power saving load balance for performance to battery ratio and wrote down the results thoroughly.
I used the 512mb preloadSWAP and checked and wrote down it's results.
I tested the LZ4 ram with different values and wrote down my results. Did the same for Swappiness priorities, and FRandom RNG entropy generator.
I checked the effects of Dynamic file sync and filesystems checking on boot and again, wrote down.
[size=+2]Shifting to Nadia[/size]
I was done with all the possible combinations of settings with AGNI and now it was time for Nadia kernel. I had been active at the thread for quite some time, helping users and even requesting features.
I read some complaints about lost root and bootloop if used after AGNI, and indeed I got a bootloop once, but naturally, as I am not of the types who would just go ahead for anything, I kept a nandroid backup just before flashing, and then I restored my backup, and some user mentioned using the AGNI script cleaning tool for driving away the issues, so I downloaded that and read through the updated script, and then after I was done I decided that I trust my own experienced hands rather than automated tools, so I removed the required init.d scripts from /system/etc/inti.d (Be careful not to remove 00test and 99superSU daemon, as these are needed for proper functioning of root rights).
After I was done, I flashed the kernel, but a bootloop again , silly me realized that I forgot to wipe cache and dalvik cache, which actually I understood from the logcat, so I went to recovery and did that and my phone was up.
After all was up I opened Trickster Mod and went on to customize my kernel and test different settings.
I did the tests with the available settings and wrote down the results like I had done before.
Contrary to as some users had mentioned, I didn't experience lost root, so all was fine for me, and after the R4 release of the kernel some days ago, no one has complained of any such error.
[size=+2] Finalizing [/size]
After I was done with my thorough testing, capturing logcats on hourly basis and for each system crash or reboot(rare) and compiling of a 60-page word document for each kernel's testing(except for stock and phoenix, which gave me no more than 15 pages :silly: ) it was time for me to report everything, as I had promised to various users.
I read through my writings, preserved logcats and memories and collected everything to write up and express this testing in the best manner I could manage(I usually turn out to be short tempered and rude, so it was another challenge for me).
I also had to decide which kernel to keep for my daily driver(I won't report that here, and neither will answer it via PM, though there are exceptions for the PM one, maybe @smeet.somaiya and @singhpratik87, because I trust them for this and I and they both know why).
[size=+2]And this small article is the outcome of all what I had done over the course of the time I had spent[/size]
Links to the Kernels
Phoenix Kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759906
AGNI Kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311094
Nadia Kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760203
FAQ
How did the testing take so long time?
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Yes I agree that I took a lot of time, the kernels had a lot of settings to explore, but most of it could be done quite quickly and the results logged down, but the main delay was caused due to problems with my lower back which I had in the month of may, some emotional issues also strayed me away from this motive, so I apologize for any delay and to keep you guys waiting.
May I know your settings and any results/logs you have written to yourself?
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A big NO. It is because the usage pattern and requirement for each of us is quite different and it can be that my settings give you a worse battery life. Also, I won't show those logs/notes to anyone no matter how good friend/relative/pet/neighbour/acquaintance he/she is because those are results for me, and is can also be that your device can take higher or lower undervolting as compared to me.
Any suggestion to which kernel I should use for getting this/that?
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Again, NO. I won't entertain these kind of questions or spam on this thread, and while none have seen it yet, I am stricter than a moderator with the rules of this forum and any post relating to asking or suggesting a kernel to someone shall be instantly reported to a moderator and I want the readers here to follow this behaviour too.
I have this/that issue with this kernel, any help?
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Post this in the respective kernel's thread and you'll get a much better and quicker reply, though I may occasionally feel like reply too, if you get lucky(but don't try to by spamming the thread, else instead of you post I will report your profile itself).
You haven't mentioned your battery life in any post
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Yes, I forgot.
Anyways, Have a look at these screenshots.
Total battery time
Time I listened to music on my battery test days
Screen time
Note : I listened to music for only 1 hour, by setting up a timer, because this provided the ideal conditions for possible calculations of total time I can get on the battery. Also, my battery is quite old(not replaced or checked even once since I bought the device on the 2nd day of launch in India)
I need better battery life/ this feature/ that feature, so what kernel do you suggest me?
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I can't suggest anything. There are no best kernels, you'll have to check about which one satisfies your needs and is stable too(remember read, read and read thoroughly and be patient).
I tried undervolting but my device gets unstable even on small values or doesn't respond to voltage change and continues to use stock voltages
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Nearly forgot that one.
Use this Xposed module to disable the touchwiz DVFS, which has the highest priority for voltage and frequency settings, even more than the kernel, and causes more problems than fixes.
Important Notes
Battery life on stock kernel and Phoenix kernel was some, but with just half an hour less of screen time than the one I have shown in my screenshots.
The difference of battery life between was just of 12 seconds between AGNI and Nadia, so what are you going to do in those 12 seconds? Type Nuclear launch codes?
There were some random reboots, shutdowns on both AGNI and Nadia, but extremely rare and because I undervolted too much, both are equally stable for their current stage.
If you are going to post a reply here, post something worth reading, no spam.
Got a suggestion for me, which you think I might not be knowing? I appreciate you posting it here, will try to consider it gladly
There are to be no suggestions given to users for switching kernels just because you use it and like it, I will report that post at the instant I see it.
Don't worry about me being super strict with all this, usually I'm quite soft to everyone and would be willing to help without any hesitation, but don't want unnecessary spam here, neither do I want any fights for which a moderator has to kick in and do the cleanup and also serve you with a warning which you won't like to see.
Thank you for the time you spent on this.
EDIT : Just read through the whole thing. Great guide(?) indeed. It helped me make better choices regarding kernel settings.
Nice info..thanks mate..keep it up..?
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nice writeup..
i lack patience for such research as i get no mental energy remaining after development
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psndna88 said:
nice writeup..
i lack patience for such research as i get no mental energy remaining after development
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Thanks
And I have tried making some small mods/these and I know it's really tiring for the brain to have everything done correctly and make sure that users are happy.
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Nice thread mate. It really showed that it needed a lot of time and patience to know your best setting to optimize your phone depending the usage. This inspires me not to just stick on a single thing but to take the risk and explore for the other things. Again, thanks you mate. Now I may go and explore my own settings. Cheers!!!!
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i posted thanks by mistake, i edited it
but how can i delete my post ?
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what does undervolting do ?
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i posted thanks by mistake, i edited it
but how can i delete my post ?
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what does undervolting do ?
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Don't worry if you did it by mistake.
And undervolting means controlling of voltages and reducing the power requirement per clock.
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@KNIGHT97
Last month I accidentally undervolted my cpu to -100mv
That caused my phone to freeze. I rebooted it. It booted fine but freezed at the lockscreen after boot.
So I decided that I should flash the agni-oc-uv-reset.zip which is saved in your sdcard as soon as you flash agni kernel. But that zip failed to flash. I tried with philz, twrp both.
What could be the reason?
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@KNIGHT97
Last month I accidentally undervolted my cpu to -100mv
That caused my phone to freeze. I rebooted it. It booted fine but freezed at the lockscreen after boot.
So I decided that I should flash the agni-oc-uv-reset.zip which is saved in your sdcard as soon as you flash agni kernel. But that zip failed to flash. I tried with philz, twrp both.
What could be the reason?
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High undervolting has led to freezes that you have figured out. But zip failing to flash? I can't seem to comment on that, becuase I don't know about that issue, was that something like status 6/7 or bad zip error?
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High undervolting has led to freezes that you have figured out. But zip failing to flash? I can't seem to comment on that, becuase I don't know about that issue, was that something like status 6/7 or bad zip error?
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Yeah. forgot to mention. status 7 it said. Error executing update-binary.
Flashed stock kernel then and everything was fine.
After that I went on to check the zip file. And shockingly it was of 0 bytes.
So I think there was some error in extracting that zip while flashing agni kernel.
Anyways that has been fixed in the latest version. Was just informing you☺
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smeet.somaiya said:
Yeah. forgot to mention. status 7 it said. Error executing update-binary.
Flashed stock kernel then and everything was fine.
After that I went on to check the zip file. And shockingly it was of 0 bytes.
So I think there was some error in extracting that zip while flashing agni kernel.
Anyways that has been fixed in the latest version. Was just informing you☺
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Yea, I saw the earluer ones just now, seems to be an typo in updater script which caused status 7 error.
But yes, glad that its fixed now.
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KNIGHT97 said:
Yea, I saw the earluer ones just now, seems to be an typo in updater script which caused status 7 error.
But yes, glad that its fixed now.
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What typo was it?
And yeah one more thing, kindly let me know what does Frandom rng to? It uses random entropy generator but can't figure out what it is exactly☺
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smeet.somaiya said:
What typo was it?
And yeah one more thing, kindly let me know what does Frandom rng to? It uses random entropy generator but can't figure out what it is exactly☺
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Frandom is a Linux kernel random number generator, which is 10-50 times faster than what you get from Linux' built-in /dev/urandom. And it uses very little (/dev/frandom) or none (/dev/erandom) of the kernel's entropy pool, so it is very useful for applications that require a handy source for lots of random data.
Its most common use seems to be wiping large hard disks with random data before encryption
here you have the link for more info: http://billauer.co.il/frandom.html
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smeet.somaiya said:
What typo was it?
And yeah one more thing, kindly let me know what does Frandom rng to? It uses random entropy generator but can't figure out what it is exactly☺
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I couldn't figure put the typo, but that's the most probable problem for status 7 error.
And your answer for Frandom RNG is already answered below
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Frandom is a Linux kernel random number generator, which is 10-50 times faster than what you get from Linux' built-in /dev/urandom. And it uses very little (/dev/frandom) or none (/dev/erandom) of the kernel's entropy pool, so it is very useful for applications that require a handy source for lots of random data.
Its most common use seems to be wiping large hard disks with random data before encryption
here you have the link for more info: http://billauer.co.il/frandom.html
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So if the kernel has in impact on memory, would it be possible to allocate the data into random blocks onto the memory, both internal and external, just like it is on 64-bit. Intel has managed a 64-bit kernel so maybe you can look at that to get some idea about it.
Or is this thing completely 64-bit only?
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So if the kernel has in impact on memory, would it be possible to allocate the data into random blocks onto the memory, both internal and external, just like it is on 64-bit. Intel has managed a 64-bit kernel so maybe you can look at that to get some idea about it.
Or is this thing completely 64-bit only?
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Didn't even get a single word of what you said. My knowledge on memory allocating is limited. I always make mistakes in sums related to memory mapping in my microprocessor exams??
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Pafcholini said:
Frandom is a Linux kernel random number generator, which is 10-50 times faster than what you get from Linux' built-in /dev/urandom. And it uses very little (/dev/frandom) or none (/dev/erandom) of the kernel's entropy pool, so it is very useful for applications that require a handy source for lots of random data.
Its most common use seems to be wiping large hard disks with random data before encryption
here you have the link for more info: http://billauer.co.il/frandom.html
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Okay. Got what you mean. But what is its application on a phone with limited memory?
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What I meant to say is please elaborate. Don't mind was just kidding☺
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Didn't even get a single word of what you said. My knowledge on memory allocating is limited. I always make mistakes in sums related to memory mapping in my microprocessor exams??
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Okay. Got what you mean. But what is its application on a phone with limited memory?
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What I meant to say is please elaborate. Don't mind was just kidding☺
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hi do you know how can I enable frandom in nadia kernel