Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
How does the phone perform? Are you satisfied with it or does it lag considerably? A benchmark really means nothing other than bragging rights. If it feels fast and feels good then why worry about mflops?
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If you look in the developer forum just pick one of the ROMs and you will find info on enabling JIT
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My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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whether you updated via flashtool or through seus or pc companion, to optimize your phone is very simple especially if not wanting to root or install custom roms. download latest flash tool, once installed and up and running. make sure your phone is set on debug mode. connect to usb and plug into comp. though you may not want the apps that are in the custom folder. hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files. this will bring mflops up and quad scores up. it however will not give very high scores. quad will be around 800-850 tops. mflops will be increased to about 20-30 maybe 35. notice on quad when running the rotating planets test. you might hit 33fps!!! instead of the supposed 30 that its only suppose to get. if you run neocore test you might only peg and 25-28. Good Luck!!
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try running the test again after the unit has settled down (no activity for a while). you might get different results.
hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files
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Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
xxcysxx said:
Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
min free kb: 900000
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dirty background:200000
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Oom allocating: checked
like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
min free kb: 900000
dirty ratio:500000
dirty background:200000
vfs cache pressure:10
Oom allocating: checked
like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
TidusWulf said:
holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
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no the one at the top where it says your device. 2233
or how about now after i modded my sysctl settings.screen shot below taken just seconds before this post
xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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Install JIT from here.
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Install JIT from here.
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i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4, and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result..
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thank you for your respond again.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores.
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will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!!
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yes, i done this already. but still learing on settings.
i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
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on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
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i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
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i have a question about xrecovery.
are you familiar with bare metal restore, acronis true image, or norton ghost.
i use these software to customize my laptop for different occations. whether i use my laptop to play games with my buddies at break hours durring schools, or do homework assignments in the library, or other general work. all i have to do is lay the image at boot and i have a completely different pc. it can be any os using any software customize in anyway, and took about five to ten minutes to lay down the image.
now back to the xrecovery question. can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
thanks again, your time and help is very much appreciated.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Bold step... always worth a shot.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
i always keep several older phones for camera use, or other things so this is always a good idea.
will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i agree in holding off, really overclock widget should be utilizes when operating stock 1.6. anything after that 2.1 2.2 2.3 their optimized with jit or are optimized enough without it
on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
these settings, im actually getting stats on this today as i was modding my phone alot yesterday and did not much have chance to let charge until last night. will let you know how well those settings work through out the day.
i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
to my knowledge is has not been tampered with by sony, cant recall if the dev had placed any se apks in theme. but it is a great rom. so is blue sparks. if going 2.1 anyway. these are roms and not just themes overlay. so should be as open source as the dev made it.
i have a question about xrecovery, can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
yes you can. when in xrecovery, go to back up and restore. and backup. this will save all settings, phone book, contacts text message, everything! if not happy with custom software you have installed. just go back to xrecovery>backup and restore> restore. back to 2.1 software before the custom rom
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
the JiT version that is with the new flashtool is JiTv2 i believe.. dont quote me on that. i believe it is as i have looked at the files in the optimizer and compared them to the copy of JiTv2 i have saved on my comp. to my knowledge, there is only two versions. again, dont quote me on it. i havent seen an chatter going on about newer versions so this might be all we get. not sure though
thanks again, your time and help is very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
always happy to try and help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935919
Refer this
Cheers!
AdY
SErooted said:
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Sorry took so long to kget back to you. hope you catch this.
Sysctl settings really dont make large change in how fast all functions of the phone operate. most increase in performance for settings is shutdown and power on time. as well as a little better scrolling of menus.
basically running the 2.2 software from z or trip, adding the data2sd.zip will get you well into having quad scores of 2+++. if aiming for higher closer to around 3000. which i am very near doing. ill show when i have the proof not till then
anyway, getting mid 2+++ scores and higher, do require using something like set cpu or Overclock widget, in order to get your phone to run at top speed while doing the test..
after that run a test then another and so on until you have achieved what is perfect W/O for you.
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i did tried the setting parameters you suggested earlier before your latest post and i found the improvement is not that noticable, but the battery did die very quick. i found the original configuration work just fine at this point.
i'm still doing some reading on the custom firmware to make sure i make the proper approach without any hickups. i still have a lot of school work to finish and a part time job so the custom firmware is moving along quite slowly.
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Hi to all, I would share with you my experience with this software:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
just installed on my Diamond, and now everything runs smoother and faster!!
I don't know exactly how it works but I must say that it's amazing!
I didn't notice any difference ... :/
Thanks Diego,
I will play around with it this to compare the before and after.
give us a screenshot with the settings that you made so we can try them, I didn't notice any difference either...
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Hi to all, I would share with you my experience with this software:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
just installed on my Diamond, and now everything runs smoother and faster!!
I don't know exactly how it works but I must say that it's amazing!
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Yes, it makes a difference for my diamond too.
I'm using the settings shown on their forum:
Code:
increase gwes.exe for overall drawing speed
increase targetapp.exe to make it run smoother
change target app to the process you use most, like browser or game.
Does this app have any impact on Battery?
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Does this app have any impact on Battery?
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overclocking usually kills the battery but diamond microprocessor cant be overcloced... i dont understand very well what does this app do to the device....
i am gonna try it... the posted one is trial 5 days.
It does not overclock the diamond CPU as so far it is not possible, i have CPU benchmarked before and after to prove this and it is no different.
I also do not notice any performance difference from this software, but that may be due to running duttys rom which already includes many performance tweaks.
I installed the trial and maybe I was being paranoid but my battery levels were just dropping more than normal and I wasn't even using the phone . Didn't notice any improvement on the phone either while I had a quick play.
Speedbooster uninstalled.
Speedbooster - Does it work??
Well... I downloaded the 5 day trial but the trial is limited to only partially tweaking/enhancing aspects of the Diamond.
But in saying that I noticed some apps refreshing faster. At almost 15 Euro's I am not game enough to buy this program to see if it works. Our poor Australian dollar would make this program as expensive as 9 BigMacs (without fries!) or half a tank of petrol.
I have tried so many tweaking programs and my conclusion is that if you want your Diamond to run faster wait for future models with a faster processor than the now old & slow Qualcomm 528Mhz. I read that 600 Mhz to 1 Ghz processors are coming.
I would certainly give up my 9 BigMacs for a faster CPU. Only with that will we see a real speed boost in our HTC's!!!
Aussie
correct me if I am wrong but doesnt changing the Pagepool do the same?
anyway all we are talking about here is a milliseconds in time difference.
Are we that time poor that we cant wait 0.5 second for an app to load?
The diamond has its limitations & i would say after a year or so of tweaking the ROMs & all the apps that we have just about reached that limitation.
sounds like a scam to me
No much good reactions, thats sad, i hoped this program would be a nice add-on to our Diamond.
Yeah, just lets wait on new phones with a decent processor, 1 Ghz would be awesome, i'm sure they are will coming very soon
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Well... I downloaded the 5 day trial but the trial is limited to only partially tweaking/enhancing aspects of the Diamond.
But in saying that I noticed some apps refreshing faster. At almost 15 Euro's I am not game enough to buy this program to see if it works. Our poor Australian dollar would make this program as expensive as 9 BigMacs (without fries!) or half a tank of petrol.
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it tried a full cracked version and didnt like it. after a lot of benchmarks i didnt notice any difference...
Ι also used ful verison, to my custom rom, and turn to full gwes.exe and manila2.exe . The diference is very big. I didnt expected it. I dont know if the same will happen to original rom version . (I dont think there is manila2.exe to the original rom)
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Ι also used ful verison, to my custom rom, and turn to full gwes.exe and manila2.exe . The diference is very big. I didnt expected it. I dont know if the same will happen to original rom version . (I dont think there is manila2.exe to the original rom)
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Yeah its the same for me. Speedbooster makes some apps run much faster.
Strange thing is that the benchmark result is usually the same. This might be a good thing - meaning that the CPU speed remains the same, but it just gives more power to some specific app instead of another. Actually this is exactly what I want:
I don't care about the stupid OS doing stupid things, but I DO CARE about my GPS or webbrowser - and here this proggie seems to give a useful hand.
I agree about the price, is a bit expensive, but at least it works
About the price...
You can get it for free on the developer's website, it's some kind of promotion, you only need to install it, run a benchmark with the built in tool, and post your score:
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2011
hurry up, I don't know how much it will last!
How it works.
It modifies the process priority similarly to the task manager in windows.
It does other stuff too but that's basically what it does.
and what's the verdict ? does it speed up our Diamonds ? (i was testing it... and didn't notice any difference :/ )
It DOES have impact on performance.
Its very easy to test. Try to lower the system apps and services and you will se that the device run slower.
On TF3D its very clear the it makes it run faster/slower if you change the priority.
My opinion; It works...somehow.
Why am I getting such low scores? Isn't the average between 30-35
Because you touch yourself at night.
Kiddin' aside, you probably have a lot of things running in the background... Do you have a lot of widgets up and running? Have you disabled the bloatwares yet? If not I'd suggest killing your widgets and disabling a few of those unwanted apps (Finance, Photobucket and etc) and re-run Linpak to see what you get.
I don't use any widgets. I have two picture frames on my mainscreen but that's it. I close the finance widget which always seems to run in the background even though I never use it. Getting around 15-17 now haha.
Nah bro... You can disable the unwanted bloatwares, here... read the thread below in the Dev. section:
Disabling stock apps on the G2 (and other NAND locked devices)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
Oh and have you downloaded VISIONary from the market yet? If not I'd highly suggest that you do, it'll temp-root your phone in 1 step! Here's the link on that:
r9: VISIONary - one click temproot for G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808514
Yeah I appreciate the help but I'm not looking to root right now. I did however score way better in linpack a couple weeks ago though =\
Nobody likes the YouDon'tNeedThat attiude, but I have to ask - why bother benchmarking again? The processor hasn't changed since the last few weeks - it's just a case of backgrounded software.
I ended up running linpack again because I was trying to test some overclocks using this method: watch?v=wToXNT3zIqY (youtube)
Followed the guide step by step. Then at the end I tested linpack and it was low for some reason. So I uninstalled everything.
What helps me or makes me feel better is, root with visionary and clean cache then restart phone.. seems smooth or normal use after even without root.. just makes me feel better because it takes up a lot of MB with those bloatwares.. I just do it once in awhile..
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Just wondering what you are all clocked at
and if stable.
Currently at 1.4 myself and running smooth
MJ-12
I don't even know how to overclock it. Does one need a custom ROM for that or does the stock one suffice? Not that it really matters, I mostly just read comics or books or watch movies on my tablet, none of which needs that much CPU.
Greece during the summer can get quite hot, so it's definitely not a friendly place for overclockers, even desktop rigs can feel the extra heat, so for me, overclocking will not happen for another 3 months minimum. Even now, at stock 3.1 the tablet can get pretty hot when playing some HD games.
I'm sure only root is required but I agree - pushing the cores for nothing more than reading, watching movies or playing already tablet optimized games seems like a pointless endeavor and certainly dangerous to the long term health of the tablet.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I am happily running mine @ 1.6 and very stable with no fc. Did have it higher @ 1.7 but had major problems with reeboots. Benchmark above taken with current rom @1.6
Try "StabilityTest" from the Market to see what your device can handle.
Mine ran 2 hours without problems on 1.5GHz but crashed after 17mins on 1.6GHz.
Running the tablet at 1.5GHz makes a big difference, everything is much more responsive and the browser is way faster.
Can you suggest me the right app to overclock my iconia? And what I have to do to set that apps? I had some doubts with options like "interactive, on demand, ...etc". Which one could give a little bit of stability? I can't find any guide on the internet to understand what these settings change, and which one is the better way to optimize our tablet.
setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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setCPU works fine if rooted; you can also use the Virtuous method if you run one of their ROMs; check the DEV sections for more info...
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Not sure setcpu works on both cores.
Use the virtuous method it is a new way to overclock and it is faster than using any app...
Lets face it anyone running a rom I am sure it is virtuous something
Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
rasmith3530 said:
Thanks Trinnity66 and MJ-12. I think you've finally convinced me to root this device and run a custom ROM.
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You are welcome, if you do it right you will love the difference. I use the galaxy Rom tried the 3.2 xoom. But galaxy tab Rom is so nice and very smooth
Goodluck.
MJ-12
just in case people doesnt know
the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
but
overclocking does not give you that much improvement...
for sure optimized kernel with slight overclock are running smother than the stock stuck at 1GHz but.... when people are crying to have not enought battery... why overclocking ???? the things who use more battery is the SOC and the SCREEN....
I run for now Stock 4.010.24 with Stock Kernel (I will go back to custom firwmare when all will be ok and stable)
games are running perfectly... when they are dev for the tegra
sanaell said:
the mainboard are stressed on a bench before go outside and get sell
put the mainboard in a OVEN (not yours at home, it's a special OVEN) then after 1 hour at something like 60 - 70 degrees running
All mainboard got an error are returned to check and fixed
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What the hell are you babbling about and what does that even have to do with the discussion?
I don't even know if I understand you correctly since you're not even trying to make coherent sentences, but if you're referring to components on the motherboard being loose then there's WAY better ways of fixing that than throwing the whole thing in an oven of any kind. You should NEVER fry the whole motherboard just to fix one or two components that are loose, instead just apply a heatgun on those specific components. Besides, AFAIK none of the issues with A500 are related to loose parts...
His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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His post has everyting to do with this thread and nothing about "loose parts" He is refering to the physical conditions the parts are subject to ie......Heat. Which in turn is increased by overclocking the passively cooled processor. Which is not very efficent and can easily overheat. Its ok if you don't understand plain English, but your post is obnoxious...
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My english is not high but I think I was clear, proof someone understand what I was speaking about.
I forgot the most important
ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore can go between 800Mhz and 2Ghz if someone find a way to cool it, well maybe the tablet will go until 2Ghz (reducing the battery life a lot, something near of the W500 ..._)
anybody tried the v6 supercharger and loopy????
Yes v6 works fine, didn't really see such a great improvement in speed but I presume that's mostly just because of our phones low end spec, I prefer not to tweak so much now though so I don't use any memory tweaks anymore........
Tried v6. Didn't notice any difference at all.
Ahh the good old placebo scripts. Don't bother with them, they either don't do anything or tweak stuff that android/Linux are perfectly good at managing for themselves.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 running CM9 Alpha
but it works superbly in p500 roms,
really good, look this rom full of scripts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382033
Just because there are lots of scripts in a rom doesn't make them any good.
Have you looked at what the supercharger script is doing? Do you understand the changes it makes? There are a lot of things in that script that simply do not apply to android, the rest are placebo effects or "tweaks" that do nothing for real world usage and just boost scores in quadrant.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 running CM9 Alpha
schiznik said:
Just because there are lots of scripts in a rom doesn't make them any good.
Have you looked at what the supercharger script is doing? Do you understand the changes it makes? There are a lot of things in that script that simply do not apply to android, the rest are placebo effects or "tweaks" that do nothing for real world usage and just boost scores in quadrant.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 running CM9 Alpha
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im talking abt smooth scrolling and ram management... -.-
not quadrant scores zzzz
Even if you do go for the V6 Script,a bit of advice - stay away from the network / 3g tweaks. There are quite a few not-so-happy endings on the Wildfire forum for people who used them. (Which involved using an RUU to go back to a stock sense ROM, rerooting and coming back to CM)
I respect everyone's view on this kind of stuff and each to there own. Here's my take on them.
After numerous attempts of getting v6 to run I managed it only to have it screw my phone up totally and as 3xeno stated I had a ballache getting my phone back lol.
Juuwes script thing was easy to install but I seriously couldn't tell you if it was doing anything as I noticed no improvement.
Now at the times when everyone was going mad for these kind of tweaks I came across an app called autokiller memory optimizer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267425
To this day I swear by this little beauty. Some may say I be under the placebo spell but I doubt it with the amount of times I've run my phone with and without the app through numerous scenarios and I always end up setting it back up again. To me this is my preferred method as I can set exactly what I want tweaking, lower certain apps oom levels and set totally custom low memory kill levels too,I've yet to see a script that gives me that control.!!! The advanced options are very good too e.g changing my sdread speed and lowering my wifi scan time. Ok enough of the selling lol I have no connection to this app or the dev but I seriously recommend everyone to try it. Hey if its not for you then go try one of the others mentioned.
" once its gone,its GONE."
GAMING (This post).
Added: THE RETURN OF ATIFROYO (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29546400&postcount=14).
Added: TWEAKAGE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30130560&postcount=23).
Gaming.
Let's face it. For some their phones are just a gaming console... that can also happen to make phone calls! For whatever reason you ended up with a Xperia X8, case in point: my younger brother.
I happen to have a knack for computers, he just cares about what they would do. So, this is my small journey trying to help him. Probably someone can benefit from it.
So, here's my experience with ROMs running on stock kernel without overclocking. Why no overclocking? For the life of me, I couldn't tell the difference, even tho I really wanted it to work.
I judged the performance on gaming running Fruit Ninja: Puss in Boots and Dead Space. Arbitrary, I know; but it has worked in determining how stable and fast a ROM would be. Dead Space was specially helpful in determining stability since some ROMs would reboot or would close Dead Space after trying to open a saved state. What's more, I would have a frame of reference to test the ROMs with what would prove to be two demanding games for the X8.
· Stock 2.1.1 doesn't run PiB. I don't know about Dead Space because at the moment I didn't even know about that game.
· FroyoPro 2.5 would occasionally run PiB, when it would open it would be lag free. Dead Space wasn't tested on this ROM either.
· GingerDX from v26 onwards runs both. PiB runs with a little bit of lag. Dead Space would become laggy at parts, tho it is quite stable.
After those three ROMs, I tried a few more, mainly Gingerbread ROMs. Most of them were quickly changed. The next are the few who lasted more than half an hour to an hour, also a few of the most popular oner, which are bound to bring up questions.
· FroyoBread v23b. PiB would seldomly open and it would be laggy. Dead Space wouldn't open saved states.
· KuyaDroid 4.5.4. Fast first boot... that caught my eye, plus the cool bootanimation. Dead Space was slow and wouldn't open saved states. PiB had some lags, but it was playable.
· XG!N V8 (LinuXperia Xgin v.0.10). This one caught me by surprise, my first thought was: "This is one ugly ROM"; however both Dead Space and PiB were for the first time fast. Too bad Dead Space wouldn't open saved states. On a second run of this ROM, I might have made a mistake. The ROM originally tested couldn't possibly be XG!N V8 (not the same looks), it probably is LinuXperia Xgin v.0.10.
Tests up to this point seem to leave no clear winner... until:
· AtiFroyo 5.2. Both PiB and Dead Space run smooth. Dead Space opens saved states. First boot is fast... That fast that it deserves mentioning. The only drawback is auto brightness. I like installing Lux Auto Brightness so my brother doesn't burn his eyeballs at night but it's rendered useless since autobrightness is always ON. I tried changing hw_config.sh values, but nothing. I even tried deleting the whole settings that are supposed to manage auto brightness and it would still be active.
My advice: if you can live with the autobrightness bug, use AtiFroyo. Hands down. Use x8toolbox to install the DualTouch modules without hussle.
So, what's my brother's phone running now?
He needs Lux Auto Brightness. So AtiFroyo is ruled out. A shame, really.
Here's the set-up, keep in mind that I want my brother to mess with the settings as little as possible:
· GingerDX v28b. Minus lots of apps (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26683929).
· RAM Manager Pro. Balance is checked at all times. Couldn't tell the difference with the other settings. In fact the only difference I could tell while using RAM Manager Pro, is that when an app starts acting funny, it gets killed faster.
· Chainfire3d. With Reduce Texture Quality always ON. It makes even the games that don't need it run a little bit faster, or at least start faster. The only time you'll notice the difference is when there are gradients present.
· Zeam Launcher. It's a launcher. Seriously, if you only care for getting to your apps/games, this is the answer. For an ICS look go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558419. Word of caution: apparently what this modded version does, is pull the icons from the theme; so, if you're using, for example, the system theme the icons won't be the ICS icons.
The results of this set-up: PiB is not as fast, but playable. Dead Space is stable, some lags are still noticeable, but overall is playable.
A final note:
Thanks to all the developers here. You all pushed/discovered, and continue to push, the limits of what the X8 can do.
Who would have thought that some of the X8 phones had real dual touch capabilities?
This list/post is not, by any means, a final judgement/call on the ROMs on the forums. My brother has a very narrow specific use for his phone and this has been my experience trying to fill what he wanted.
You know that there are benchmarks
Yea ati froyo and froyopro are good but 2,2 android.
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Lukenda said:
You know that there are benchmarks
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Benchmarks only tell part of the story.
Which is why, for example, I should expect a considerable boost in performance from overclocking; but no noticeable difference.
Lukenda said:
Yea ati froyo and froyopro are good but 2,2 android.
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You mean old, right? Then, the question would be old for what?
And if you paid atenttion, with the tests GingerDX came on top: it would open PiB every single time.
2.2 cant play some new games...i love sas3.
Cyagenmod rc1 v4 seems to be perfect rom by xperiafan.
Based on minicm7 and stock kernel
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Hey Fortun, I really like your post and how you wrote it. Hope to see more of you,
Cheers,
elderduke said:
Hey Fortun, I really like your post and how you wrote it. Hope to see more of you,
Cheers,
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Glad you enjoyed it.
I really can't think of any other threads to start... Will see how it goes.
I'm sure u spent some time to test them & write here.
Tnx & waiting for more.
Is it important how did i send this?
floyo by racht (latest)
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Fortun, continuing the quest for the perfect stock kernel rom , have a look on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776643
Cheers,
elderduke said:
Fortun, continuing the quest for the perfect stock kernel rom , have a look on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776643
Cheers,
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sorry but I think the UI is [email protected] lol. nvm we need good performance tho. I'll try it later. thanks for the info mate ! :good:
that OP is a girl...so what did u expect.... LOL
elderduke said:
Fortun, continuing the quest for the perfect stock kernel rom , have a look on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776643
Cheers,
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Saw that ROM but wasn't actually going to try it since the latest LinuXperia, the base of this new ROM, didn't passed the tests. Plus: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27499552&postcount=241.
But I might give it a go this weekend along a few things.
There's this one ROM I would really want to try: LinuXperia Mika v9b. If anyone of you could hook me up with a working download link, it would be great.
PM'ed.
Since Alessio was disabled due to problems in paradise, I will send you the link by PM.
But as far as I remember, it was not so great in terms of batery or 2d/3d.
Also, he developped starting from XGin + Xperiafan, but lately he started to OC @691 and appeared is faster, but once you revert to 600 then is quite normal.
Also quite heavy on theme and colors.
Cheers,
The Return of AtiFroyo.
There. You already know how this post is going to end. However you may want to ditch RAM Manager if you're in it to play games. Wait. What?
In this second batch of testing, a few games come into play: Aby Escape, Ninja Fishing and the ARMv6 ported version of Sushi Chop. Fruit Ninja: Puss in Boots was also tested and runs more or less the same on all ROMs with the underdog being GingerDX.
The candidates? GingerDX v28b, LinuXperia Mika v9b (the one with amazing AnTuTu score), GingerCruzt Revision 8.4, LinuXperia FreeDom S1, VivoPrime V01 and AtiFroyo 5.2.
Let's start:
· LinuXperia Mika v9b. One more reason you shouldn't put too much weight on benchmark scores. Aby Escape and Sushi Chop are laggy to the point of making them unplayable. Aby Escape would just close when starting the actual gaming; had to reopen it to make it work. For Sushi Chop, phone just froze when trying to exit the game; had to reboot the phone.
· GingerDX v28b. Aby Escape would close when starting the actual gaming. No apparent solution. Sushi Chop, unplayable.
· GingerCruzt Revision 8.4, LinuXperia FreeDom S1 and VivoPrime V01. Why put the three together? Because they would perform on par with each other. Both Aby Escape and Sushi Chop would be playable. The edge on performance goes to GingerCruzt, which would be a little bit more responsive in Aby Escape. Now LinuXperia FreeDom makes my eyes bleed. So, in looks, the edge goes to VivoPrime. Also GingerCruzt is bloated with a lot of widgets, a few apps, and some manga and anime wallpapers I have no use for.
· AtiFroyo 5.2. Both Aby Escape and Sushi Chop are playable. The difference with the last three ROMs? Responsiveness. Aby Escape would get a little bit laggy in some parts just before a jump, costing you the game. In AtiFroyo, the lags are less frequent and briefer. Sushi Chop is also more responsive, resulting in cutting more sushi. Also, in the last three ROMs, Aby Escape would close if I played for a few minutes and then try to enter the in-game shop. Guess what. In AtiFroyo, it doesn't happen.
So, AtiFroyo is winning... and not in a Charlie Sheen kinda way. If it only weren't for the auto brightness bug, right? Well, now it's solved. Modify the hw_config.sh values in the ROM zip before flashing it. Done.
But if you just have to have a Gingerbread ROM for playing, I'd probably go with VivoPrime V01.
Where does Ninja Fishing enter into all of this? You won't play it. Here's the thing in all the ROMs, it would enter the game, but when you tried to actually start gaming by entering a level it would close. Enter Chainfire3d. In all ROMs but GingerDx, with reduced texture quality and size, you would be able to actually play the game until the end of the level. Then it would close. Winse and repead. The end.
Obvious question now is: can't I just change the looks of the ugly ROMs? Of course. The easy way is with themes. However most themes don't go that deep into the framework to change everything you might not like... especially some colors. Then, a stock look is preferable because its colors won't clash with most themes. Now, if you want you can go the hard way and modify the framework... Too much work.
That's all. Wait. RAM Manager, right? Don't get mad. Here we go.
Here's the thing. If you are with a Gingerbread based ROM, you might want to disable/uninstall it. How come? Remember when I said there was no apparent solution for playing Aby Escape? Well, the "apparent" part was intentional.
After testing GingerDX, I went ahead and installed GingerCruzt. After playing the games, I wanted to see performance with RAM Manager. Aby Escape would close when attempting to start the actual gaming with Balance enabled. Hard Gaming? Same experience. Hard Gaming (Less aggressive)? No luck. Déjà vu. Didn't this happened before with GingerDX? Which, by the way, had RAM Manager enabled? Let's first disable it, the game starts. Time to go back to GingerDX without RAM Manager. Confirmed. The culprit is RAM Manager. Aby Escape starts. Laggy to the point of making it unplayable, but it starts. Sushi Chop would cause less problems, but playing it would make you very angry.
Back to AtiFroyo. The games would behave the same with or without RAM Manager enabled. So, for now, no RAM Manager in the phone.
One last thing. What does AtiFroyo look like? Well, for sure it doesn't look like Froyo, it's modified to look like ICS. It even has a Sensified option... which I haven't tried. The font may upset some people, my brother likes it and I think it's got some flair. This is easily changeable, tho.
I might put some screenshots later to finish up this paid advertising for AtiFroyo...
... At least, I'm hoping Attis112 will give me something.
Well, as you stated, benchmark is not everything. But also playing games is not everything.
For some reason, on my device the one Rom with the best quality of sound into calling is FroyoPro 2.5. Also is the only rom who can score higher than stock in AnTuTu. that's why I allways go back to it when I'm tired of "trying out".
On the other hand , I tried the HoneycombFroyo also by Attis and it looks really nice but it has 2 problems: the backlight and the floating point which scores 17 ???? Please test AnTuTu on AtiFroyo and see if there is the same issue on variant 5.2. - maybe that is one cause also for lags....Anyways maybe I did something wrong when installed. I downloaded it from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763389
Please let us know if is any way to improve it.
Cheers,
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Well, as you stated, benchmark is not everything. But also playing games is not everything.
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Of course. Unless we're talking about a person whose phone is just a gaming console... that can also happen to make phone calls!
elderduke said:
On the other hand , I tried the HoneycombFroyo also by Attis and it looks really nice but it has 2 problems: the backlight and the floating point which scores 17 ???? Please test AnTuTu on AtiFroyo and see if there is the same issue on variant 5.2.
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Sure: 146.
HoneycombFroyo is build based around MiniCM6 as AtiFroyo. There shouldn't be such a big difference. Tho, the file sizes certainly differ: 106 MB against 80.6 MB (including fixes).
If you have the time, you could try formatting cache, data and system. Then doing a full wipe and wiping the dalvik cache. Install the ROM and see if that does something. I had a nasty GingerCruzt problem that I could only fix by doing that.
As for the backlight, if you mean it's always ON, I can give you the propper values for hw_config.sh.
My nasty experience with the backlight was that it was allways OFF. I had black screen and no chance to see what's going on for seconds, and after several pressing of menu button finally backlight would be revived....But also, I downloaded a variant of AtiFroyo 5.2 of 100.9 Mb from a polish site linking to a hotfile link....since I did not find it in xda.
As opposed to this HoneyFroyo - also by attis - here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449144&highlight=froyo
So I would appreciate if you could send me both: the link to your AtiFroyo 5.2 and the hw_config.sh (values of the file itself) - but I guess by PM because there must be a reason it was removed from XDA...
Thanks a lot,
Cheers
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My nasty experience with the backlight was that it was allways OFF. I had black screen and no chance to see what's going on for seconds, and after several pressing of menu button finally backlight would be revived....But also, I downloaded a variant of AtiFroyo 5.2 of 100.9 Mb from a polish site linking to a hotfile link....since I did not find it in xda.
As opposed to this HoneyFroyo - also by attis - here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449144&highlight=froyo
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Interesting since both have the same hw_config.sh values. And, yes, I have HoneyFroyo downloaded but I haven't tested it yet.
Here go the proper values:
# lm3530 LMU configuration
dev=/sys/devices/platform/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0036
echo linear > $dev/br::mapping # linear exp
echo 32768 > $dev/br::rate::up # 8, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65538
echo 32768 > $dev/br::rate::down # 8, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65538
echo 255 > $dev/br::limit # 0 - 255
echo 19.0 > $dev/br::fsc # 5.0, 8.5, 12.0, 15.5, 19.0, 22.5, 26.0, 29.5
echo 30,70,110,150 > $dev/curve::borders
echo 100,115,130,175,254 > $dev/curve::targets
echo high-z > $dev/als::r1 # high-z, 9360, 5560 .. 677.6 (see chip mnual)
echo high-z > $dev/als::r2 # high-z, 9360, 5560 .. 677.6 (see chip mnual)
echo 512 > $dev/als::avg-t # 32, 63, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096
echo i2c > $dev/mode # i2c, pwm, i2c_pwm, als, pwm_als, i2c_pwm_als, i2_als
Don't forget to change the values directly in the zip ROM before flashing it. And just to be sure that you won't get an episode similar to what you experienced with Honey Froyo, find the next value in build.prop:
settings.display.autobacklight=1
Change it to:
settings.display.autobacklight=0
Could you pm me a link to atifroyo? Just wanna test it out. Just curious. Thanks!
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Screenshots for both the normal look of the ROM:
And the one you obtain with the Xperia theme:
For anyone wondering, the first picture showcases the Holo Launcher, changed from Launcher Pro which comes in the original zip.