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Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
lagfix hands down
i prefer both at the same time.. but if i can only go with one i'd go with lagfix myself
it really doesnt matter...you COULD have both if you know what you're doin...me personally im running a lagfix....
My cpu can't handle the OC so I don't even bother. Just use a lagfix, you really don't need to overclock. It's not like we use our phones for scientific computing.
I've tryed all three ways.
I've found that some of the newer roms run just fine without either, but at the moment I'm only running overclock.(1.12 ghz)
just before this I was running 1.3 GHZ overclock and JFS advanced lagfix and I really dont see a ton of difference beyond benchmark scores and battery drainage lol.
although addmittedly it is fun to show off your benchmark scores :-D
in real life performance you probably wont notice much difference.
but try all three ways and see which you like better I'm sure some people really do have a need for overclock and lagfix, heck, if I could find a way to compile the android os from my phone I'd probably want the extra power :-D
but just find whats right for you
I am by no means an expert on this hardware, but as with any device you are only ever as fast as the system that bottle necks first. From what I have been able to gather thus far, on the Vibrant, that is I/O hands down. The rest of the hardware keeps up with most tasks quite well, and the lag fix helps to alleviate the bottlenecks in I/O by speeding up the read/write operations fairly well.
That would be where I put my money. Overclock sounds cool, but on these phones seems unnecessary.
Just my 2/100 of a $
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Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
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Choosing one or the other is stupid, use both! Voodoo was a good idea months ago but it's outdated now, stop using it. Use a kernel like the one in my sig, it supports Ext4 lagfix (just like voodoo) AND overclocking, it's stable, and you won't softbrick if you flash over it.
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
How does the phone perform? Are you satisfied with it or does it lag considerably? A benchmark really means nothing other than bragging rights. If it feels fast and feels good then why worry about mflops?
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If you look in the developer forum just pick one of the ROMs and you will find info on enabling JIT
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My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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whether you updated via flashtool or through seus or pc companion, to optimize your phone is very simple especially if not wanting to root or install custom roms. download latest flash tool, once installed and up and running. make sure your phone is set on debug mode. connect to usb and plug into comp. though you may not want the apps that are in the custom folder. hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files. this will bring mflops up and quad scores up. it however will not give very high scores. quad will be around 800-850 tops. mflops will be increased to about 20-30 maybe 35. notice on quad when running the rotating planets test. you might hit 33fps!!! instead of the supposed 30 that its only suppose to get. if you run neocore test you might only peg and 25-28. Good Luck!!
-OP
try running the test again after the unit has settled down (no activity for a while). you might get different results.
hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files
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Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
xxcysxx said:
Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
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like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
min free kb: 900000
dirty ratio:500000
dirty background:200000
vfs cache pressure:10
Oom allocating: checked
like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
TidusWulf said:
holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
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no the one at the top where it says your device. 2233
or how about now after i modded my sysctl settings.screen shot below taken just seconds before this post
xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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Install JIT from here.
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Install JIT from here.
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i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4, and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result..
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thank you for your respond again.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores.
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will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!!
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yes, i done this already. but still learing on settings.
i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
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on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
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i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
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i have a question about xrecovery.
are you familiar with bare metal restore, acronis true image, or norton ghost.
i use these software to customize my laptop for different occations. whether i use my laptop to play games with my buddies at break hours durring schools, or do homework assignments in the library, or other general work. all i have to do is lay the image at boot and i have a completely different pc. it can be any os using any software customize in anyway, and took about five to ten minutes to lay down the image.
now back to the xrecovery question. can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
thanks again, your time and help is very much appreciated.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Bold step... always worth a shot.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
i always keep several older phones for camera use, or other things so this is always a good idea.
will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i agree in holding off, really overclock widget should be utilizes when operating stock 1.6. anything after that 2.1 2.2 2.3 their optimized with jit or are optimized enough without it
on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
these settings, im actually getting stats on this today as i was modding my phone alot yesterday and did not much have chance to let charge until last night. will let you know how well those settings work through out the day.
i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
to my knowledge is has not been tampered with by sony, cant recall if the dev had placed any se apks in theme. but it is a great rom. so is blue sparks. if going 2.1 anyway. these are roms and not just themes overlay. so should be as open source as the dev made it.
i have a question about xrecovery, can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
yes you can. when in xrecovery, go to back up and restore. and backup. this will save all settings, phone book, contacts text message, everything! if not happy with custom software you have installed. just go back to xrecovery>backup and restore> restore. back to 2.1 software before the custom rom
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
the JiT version that is with the new flashtool is JiTv2 i believe.. dont quote me on that. i believe it is as i have looked at the files in the optimizer and compared them to the copy of JiTv2 i have saved on my comp. to my knowledge, there is only two versions. again, dont quote me on it. i havent seen an chatter going on about newer versions so this might be all we get. not sure though
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always happy to try and help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935919
Refer this
Cheers!
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SErooted said:
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Sorry took so long to kget back to you. hope you catch this.
Sysctl settings really dont make large change in how fast all functions of the phone operate. most increase in performance for settings is shutdown and power on time. as well as a little better scrolling of menus.
basically running the 2.2 software from z or trip, adding the data2sd.zip will get you well into having quad scores of 2+++. if aiming for higher closer to around 3000. which i am very near doing. ill show when i have the proof not till then
anyway, getting mid 2+++ scores and higher, do require using something like set cpu or Overclock widget, in order to get your phone to run at top speed while doing the test..
after that run a test then another and so on until you have achieved what is perfect W/O for you.
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i did tried the setting parameters you suggested earlier before your latest post and i found the improvement is not that noticable, but the battery did die very quick. i found the original configuration work just fine at this point.
i'm still doing some reading on the custom firmware to make sure i make the proper approach without any hickups. i still have a lot of school work to finish and a part time job so the custom firmware is moving along quite slowly.
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.
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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain
It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.
If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).
Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth
Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.
I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!
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Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.
I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.
What exactly is ext4 because I don't notice any difference at all in the performance of my phone. I'm also running voodoo lagfix on GingerReal 5.1.
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hi, a little bit of info.
EXT4 is another Filesystem that we use instead of the stock RFS offered by Samsung
It IS faster but since 2.2.1 (IMO) you really can't see the difference in performance because Samsung optimised the Filesystem (god help them as they STILL didn't change it) It is faster in read write and is more robust than RFS
Anyone wanting to correct me may do so
EDIT: your benchmark scores, like quadrant will be higher
Everyone is always saying to get the ultimate experience you need to flash a custom rom, apply a lagfix and change to ext4. I have done all these and cannot see the difference in performance at all.
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seeraj15 said:
Everyone is always saying to get the ultimate experience you need to flash a custom rom, apply a lagfix and change to ext4. I have done all these and cannot see the difference in performance at all.
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well, the stock roms got way better over time. 2.1 was unusable and 2.2 just bad. with 2.2.1 things changed and the phone got pretty good without root or custom roms ... or lagfixes
If you don't feel any difference after applying a lagfix decide what you're more comfortable with and leave the phone on that file system. consider the fact that you'll have to be on rfs to flash a rom via odin.
If you want to speed up your phone try juwe's memory optimization
a different launcher might also help (launcher pro and gingerbread stock are fast ones I know)
what else... don't install IM clients or anti virus programs, they tend to kill battery and sometimes performance.
you could also look into overclocking but I was never either comfortable with the idea nor did I feel any need to.
EDIT:
instead of flashing the zip file from juwe you can download Galaxy tuner, go to memory manager and set up everything yourself
values are as following (juwe's)
VM: 50; 10; 50; 100; 90; 5
EDIT II:
praveen6585 did the math for the lowmemkill settings, those are:
10; 16; 24; 48; 56; 72
mine are a bit lower, I feel it's a bit faster in daily use because applications that were just used stay in the RAM longer
theduckking said:
well, the stock roms got way better over time. 2.1 was unusable and 2.2 just bad. with 2.2.1 things changed and the phone got pretty good without root or custom roms ... or lagfixes
If you don't feel any difference after applying a lagfix decide what you're more comfortable with and leave the phone on that file system. consider the fact that you'll have to be on rfs to flash a rom via odin.
If you want to speed up your phone try juwe's memory optimization
a different launcher might also help (launcher pro and gingerbread stock are fast ones I know)
what else... don't install IM clients or anti virus programs, they tend to kill battery and sometimes performance.
you could also look into overclocking but I was never either comfortable with the idea nor did I feel any need to.
EDIT:
instead of flashing the zip file from juwe you can download Galaxy tuner, go to memory manager and set up everything yourself
values are as following (juwe's)
VM: 50; 10; 50; 100; 90; 5
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just to be sure swp=50
vcp=10
dec=50
dwc=100
dra=90
dbr=5
is that correct?
ive never messed with these settings before and dont want to muck things up
gtda said:
just to be sure swp=50
vcp=10
dec=50
dwc=100
dra=90
dbr=5
is that correct?
ive never messed with these settings before and dont want to muck things up
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yes, that's correct, I added the lowmem kill settings to my previous post
thanks mate, giving them ago now, ill give it a day or so. rfs is fast but i do notice the difference with ext4
I don't know, but I surely felt aspeed difference when removing the ext4 partition both on froyo and gb. Also gb seems to be a lot smoother stock than froyo, even with the 500hz kernel. Also I prefer hardcore's speedmod on both versions.
PS: I used android assistant's hourly boost on both and it helped me much. I have yet to try these lowmem settings so I'd be glad for any info on their usefullness.
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Hey people, this is my first post.
So basically this post is for people still using xperia x8 / w8.
TIPS to increase performance :
1. Install a custom ROM (with a custom kernel). It's no use installing a ROM on stock kernel because it's not very fast and battery life is low too ( I like Minicm7 and Minicm10)
2. After installing the kernel and rom, install a nice launcher. (LauncherPro for gingerbread and nova /apex for ice cream sandwich or jelly bean).
3. Tweak cyanogenmod performance settings : increase vm heap size, allow purging of assets, disable surface dithering, set cpu governor to smartassv2. Overclock if you want but not too much.
4. Use v6 supercharger script. (easy to follow and works great). Do it only if you have custom kernel, because on stock it asks to update busybox which soft bricks the phone).
5. Use autostart manager to remove unnecessary apps from boot.
6. Install apps that you need.
7. Enable "long press to kill apps" in development and kill after you use them like browsers etc.
8. Don't use task killer.
Battery life tips (I assume you are on custom ROM with custom kernel) :
1. Use setcpu and enable profiles. Make the following
A) Screen off - Set Minimum and maximum values of clock the lowest.
B) Battery levels - Choose the maximum to any value below 600 mhz but above 320 when say, the level is less than 40 percent or maximum 480 when the level drops below 50 percent.
2. Make sure you uninstall Dsp manager with titanium backup or root uninstaller.
It sucks lots of battery.
3. Don't set auto brightness.
4. Keep vm heap size to 32.
5. Set governor to on-demand using set cpu for all profiles. AS WELL as for normal usage. (where there are sliders)
6. You may use antutu battery saver. It may or may not work for you.
7. Use v6 supercharger script.
That's it. Press thanks if I helped.
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I appreciate you for the effort you made.
But there are already many threads about it and also I think that most of the x8 users do have knowledge of these basic things..
Cheers..:beer:
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dagger said:
I appreciate you for the effort you made.
But there are already many threads about it and also I think that most of the x8 users do have knowledge of these basic things..
Cheers..:beer:
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Sir, Thank you for your review and the beer Yes I am aware of the fact that many people know about it but are tired going through many threads so I compiled a list. That's all.
Exactly this thread will be helpful for noobs much. Nice info :thumbup:
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@op you may want to review some info. for example, for performance, smartassv2 isn't really the best choice (interactive or ondemand, anyone?). you may also want to remove v6 supercharger since noobs will ultimately ask a lot of questions about it (specially ics/jb users). conversely, ondemand is NOT the best choice if you want to save battery. it has a hair trigger that jumps to max freq and stays there for a long time (like interactive but with different conditions for scaling iirc). there are also lighter launchers than nove/apex/launcherpro. uninstalling or freezing unused apps can also help performance instead of trying to kill them (specially with apps that simply restart themselves). you also have the undervolt option. and updating busybox will not necessarily cause issues if you're on custom kernel. i've updated mine on cm7&10 without issues. i do think gdx (at least on stock kernel) bootloops if you update it. as daggre said, we already have lots of tuts about this, so it would be best to give accurate info or else it will just confuse users.
Hey i heard that if i use my sd card for page file i can increase ram or something like that but is it safe i heard that sd card life will get decreased
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Hey i heard that if i use my sd card for page file i can increase ram or something like that but is it safe i heard that sd card life will get decreased
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Yes you can use Swapper 2. Useful only if you use class 6 SD card or above. otherwise no use.
cascabel said:
@op you may want to review some info. for example, for performance, smartassv2 isn't really the best choice (interactive or ondemand, anyone?). you may also want to remove v6 supercharger since noobs will ultimately ask a lot of questions about it (specially ics/jb users). conversely, ondemand is NOT the best choice if you want to save battery. it has a hair trigger that jumps to max freq and stays there for a long time (like interactive but with different conditions for scaling iirc). there are also lighter launchers than nove/apex/launcherpro. uninstalling or freezing unused apps can also help performance instead of trying to kill them (specially with apps that simply restart themselves). you also have the undervolt option. and updating busybox will not necessarily cause issues if you're on custom kernel. i've updated mine on cm7&10 without issues. i do think gdx (at least on stock kernel) bootloops if you update it. as daggre said, we already have lots of tuts about this, so it would be best to give accurate info or else it will just confuse users.
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Sorry for the mistakes. I wrote smartass v2 because interactive sucks too much battery and isn't practical to use. I would like to delete the thread. I'm new here so please tell me how. I will update the facts and then write
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Sorry for the mistakes. I wrote smartass v2 because interactive sucks too much battery and isn't practical to use. I would like to delete the thread. I'm new here so please tell me how. I will update the facts and then write
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you'll have to ask a mod to delete the thread. why not just update it though? it's a good thread for new guys. just update some info and you're good to go.
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you'll have to ask a mod to delete the thread. why not just update it though? it's a good thread for new guys. just update some info and you're good to go.
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Alright, I'll update by Monday. Thanks
Haha, thanks for the tips :good: