I am sorry if what im about to ask is already posted somewhere (probably is), but this forum is pretty vast and I couldnt find what im looking for. The question is this, Im using Vanir ROM. Now with the inbuilt kernel I had around 20k benchmark on antutu. I flash hells core, excited to see any difference and whoop, i got 14k. Also i checked the part with 3D testing and fps was higher for about 5-7 points. So what Im asking is this,What is the meaning of this and also how can I, how to put it to not sound noobish, tweak the kernel to perform/save battery etc.?Because Im assuming thats not the top what HellsCore kernel can do, am I right? Or if you guys have any kernels to recommend, all is appreciated. Also if this helps, Im using Nexus 4, Vanir ROM(as posted above) and dont know what else would you need to know to answer.
Thanks in advance
/So I rebooted and now I am on 20840 for some reason.
Benchmarks are not very conclusive abnout anything. Each phone is different each user has different needs and how and where there phone is used. Everyone will tell u to try this kernel and that kernel but u just have to find one that works for you
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mymeatb18 said:
Benchmarks are not very conclusive abnout anything. Each phone is different each user has different needs and how and where there phone is used. Everyone will tell u to try this kernel and that kernel but u just have to find one that works for you
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I get that, i was more concerned about those numbers. Why did it drop to 14k and then went to 20k again.
Probably some patches were included in the rom's kernel, which can affect the scores.
When you flashed another kernel (helldoctor), you stopped using these patches, so scores went down.
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I am sorry if what im about to ask is already posted somewhere (probably is), but this forum is pretty vast and I couldnt find what im looking for. The question is this, Im using Vanir ROM. Now with the inbuilt kernel I had around 20k benchmark on antutu. I flash hells core, excited to see any difference and whoop, i got 14k. Also i checked the part with 3D testing and fps was higher for about 5-7 points. So what Im asking is this,What is the meaning of this and also how can I, how to put it to not sound noobish, tweak the kernel to perform/save battery etc.?Because Im assuming thats not the top what HellsCore kernel can do, am I right? Or if you guys have any kernels to recommend, all is appreciated. Also if this helps, Im using Nexus 4, Vanir ROM(as posted above) and dont know what else would you need to know to answer.
Thanks in advance
/So I rebooted and now I am on 20840 for some reason.
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Anututu and other benchmarks depend on a number of factors/conditions which affect the final result . The major conditions which affect it result are below
1) The CPU temperature !! When ur phone gets hot the CPU throttle will automatically reduce the active cores and the clock speed to cool down your CPU !! This results in decrease in performance !! When you flash new kernels its possible that ur phone is hot and hence performance decreases
2) Using your phone while running tests also affect the results . for eg if there is a notification during the test or background sync going on it will affect the result
3) probably the kernel packed with vanir had 4 cores active all the time to increase scores and hells core has just 2 cores active ( at a given moment) will mean decreased performance
The ideal way to test kernels is as follows
1) Dirty flash your ROM before flashing kernel
2) Reboot your device after the first boot
3) Let it settle down for an hour
4) turn of data/WiFi during the test
5) see the kernels specs( like cores active/the maximum CPU speed) through an app like trickster/faux clock
6) Now run the test
7) after test let your phone cool down for 15 mins
8) repeat the test a few times and take the average of all scores
Kindly hit the thanks button as a token of appreciation
Antutu was never accurate if you ask me. Sometimes it goes down and the other it went up..so..
I see, thank you guys.
Benchmarks are like putting makeup on.
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I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.
Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?
Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.
I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?
Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first
Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.
and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery
Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.
Hey everyone, I have been on the hunt for the last few days for the best Kernel for my N7, in regards to performance. Earlier today someone turned me onto M-Kernel. I must say, it is very impressive. It has a built in 1.9 GHz overclock, that I was able to set via no-frills. I am running Clean ROM.
This is a multi-purpose post. First off, I wanted to let everyone know about my experience because I had a little trouble figuring out the best combo. The second reason is I would like to know if anyone knows of any other ROM/Kernel combos to get the highest quadrant score possible.
I have a co-worker who has a Galaxy SIII, and we have a friendly rivalry. I would really like to blow his phone away with my Nexus.
Thanks!
Check the link in my sig for my guide to the 'best' kernels. I don't think there is a lot of difference between roms in terms of benchmarks results.
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Check the link in my sig for my guide to the 'best' kernels. I don't think there is a lot of difference between roms in terms of benchmarks results.
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Clemsyn's Elite Kernel CPU overclock to 1.8GHz and GPU overclocked to 700MHz
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Hey everyone, I have been on the hunt for the last few days for the best Kernel for my N7, in regards to performance. Earlier today someone turned me onto M-Kernel. I must say, it is very impressive. It has a built in 1.9 GHz overclock, that I was able to set via no-frills. I am running Clean ROM.
This is a multi-purpose post. First off, I wanted to let everyone know about my experience because I had a little trouble figuring out the best combo. The second reason is I would like to know if anyone knows of any other ROM/Kernel combos to get the highest quadrant score possible.
I have a co-worker who has a Galaxy SIII, and we have a friendly rivalry. I would really like to blow his phone away with my Nexus.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
Motley is an overall great kernel
Hi every one,
I tried to post this to the main thread of the kernal, but i could not since i am new member.
I just flash my new S4 I9500 to "Adam Kernel".
Main thing i noticed that the phone respond was better, and i really cant judged about other stuff since i did not use it.
But when i tired to test the phone with Antutu benchmark, noticed that the score was dropped from 281xx to 276xx, even when i am using the Performance instate of on-demand or other battery save options.
I hope if someone can help me to understand this.
Thank you very much,
Emad
rubema said:
Hi every one,
I tried to post this to the main thread of the kernal, but i could not since i am new member.
I just flash my new S4 I9500 to "Adam Kernel".
Main thing i noticed that the phone respond was better, and i really cant judged about other stuff since i did not use it.
But when i tired to test the phone with Antutu benchmark, noticed that the score was dropped from 281xx to 276xx, even when i am using the Performance instate of on-demand or other battery save options.
I hope if someone can help me to understand this.
Thank you very much,
Emad
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i don't see why you should be upset over benchmarks.
Benchmarks *can* give you an indication of performance, but *nothing* is better than simply making your own objective decision.
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i don't see why you should be upset over benchmarks.
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply.
Actually i am not upset quz of the benchmark result, all what i want to know in that case, is the new kernal give me less cpu power that the original?
I am only wondering..
Thank you,
its probably due to Governors change.
Adam kernel tweaked cpu governors to be power a power saver than performance. if you have Wanamlite rom you can manualy set cpu governors so you will see better benchmarks
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its probably due to Governors change.
Adam kernel tweaked cpu governors to be power a power saver than performance. if you have Wanamlite rom you can manualy set cpu governors so you will see better benchmarks
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Oky i understand it, in that way.
Thank you 1+
Most of life is a choice between one or the other but with the Nexus 7 along with Root, Custom Recovery, cm10.2 unofficial, Faux Clock Kernel Control App and Jassy Release 5 Kernel it might just be possible to have both. Jassy has managed to put together a kernel that combines a 1.9 GHz over clock and a 487 MHz GPU over clock. With a global undervolt of -24 MV I managed to pull off stunning benchmarks, smooth lag free performance and incredible battery time. Just under 13 hours battery time in fact. I did this with a YouTube kung fu movie fest for about 12 and a half hours and a half hour of benchmarks and downloading a few apps. Remember if you game you can not expect this kind of battery performance but it does do great at that as well. I've attached some screenshots of my settings so you can reproduce these results if you would like.
Remember when you Root, ROM and Over clock you do it at your own risk and please thank the fine Developers who gave their time to make this kind of fantasy possible. I in no way had a hand in developing this software, I just took the time to do many benches and battery tests on many Roms and kernels then undervolted a bit.
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Nice, will have to check this out
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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Sorry I never saw your posts. Never looked at the thread again. To replicate my results you would have to download cm10.2 and Jassy release 5 and faux kernel control app paid version and set exactly like in the screen shots. I have since made a few more refinements but nothing you couldn't play with yourself. Make sure you enable mpdecision. Make every screen look like mine.
Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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How's stability with your set-up?
Gareee said:
Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Cleanrom will not bench as high. Its a stock based ROM. Truth is though once your this high your not gonna see a whole lot of improvement in daily performance unless you go looking for it. Cleanrom is one of the best Roms I've ever used and there is absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it. I go back and forth between the 2 myself. As themes and tweaks come out for nexus 7 2013 you'll find cleanrom will get even better than it is now also. Wish someone would do a tablet ui lol.
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How's stability with your set-up?
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I haven't had a single random reboot. Chrome works real well as long as you can change it from beta in lower left of xda page. I haven't overheated but I gotta tell you I'm no hardcore android gamer. Some angry birds from time to time or subway surfers lol. I have probably gamed for about an hour or so on these settings and not gone into a state of panic about temps though. Any longer than that or some other game and I couldn't say. in fact FOR me things are so smooth on this machine I had to order a new HP to tinker with lol. Seriously this is the best android machine I've owned. And buddy, I've had em all. I also use adaway so that may help with chrome as well.
Impressive scores man.
Yeah hesitant to jump to other roms myself at least at this time. Everything is so new finding a "good one" is hard to do at least yet. Though I've used CleanROM's on other devices I've had in the past and love them. Personally if CleanROM comes out with a 1.4 I might consider jumping into it.
Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
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EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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I have absolutely No interest in politics on my nexus 7 2013. if he did wrong, shame on him however I have tried each and every kernel control app on the market and reported my best results. I have yet to produce scores or battery life comparable even within 10% of fauxclock/Jassy R5 combo. I do not intend to do any research at all about whatever faux123 did or didn't do. I understand a personal grudge and respect your right to hold one. If your looking for something as close as you can get to his kernel control app try trickster. I didn't have a lot of success with it but you might find a combination that works close. If I were in the middle of whatever happened between faux123 and you or whoever I might have formulated an opinion. I'm not chiding you either. You brought an issue before me and I am simply stating I don't want involved as its in my humble opinion not my place or my fight, not to mention it appears it was already fought.
if I simply hated and didn't use a product based on someone else I don't know having a problem with that individual I wouldn't be able to buy anything, at all, anywhere, on earth, or in heaven, ever! If you tell me he harmed a baby and I see he was convicted of it in a trial of his peer's elected in a fair and balanced environment I will most certainly NOT have anything to do with him. But unproven or conflicting information, that may be due to personal interpretations is difficult for me to get involved in. Especially after the fact. And then there is the whole, if a man was punished for his crime do you continue to persecute him after he paid his dues thing.
Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
What's your binning?
appreciate you sharing your jassy 5 set up with the fauxclock app. im on jassy 5 as well and have been running the setup that jassy posted but now im gonna try your set up. i just got one question about it: how is your sleep mode stand by time? i lose 1-2% in 8 hours
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Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
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I personally would call the current cm build almost RC material. I have no problems with it at all.
My bin was 14/2 if I'm not mistaken.
I probably lose a bit less than that but can't say for certain as I constantly use it lmao. I do get exceptional screen on time really. There are some screen shots on previous page I think.
Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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You have to wipe on a first install.
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You have to wipe on a first install.
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Ugh.
Hello guys,
Im brasilian and my english is so bad.
Recently I got a used Nexus 6P 64gb. I already had a nexus 6P previously, and I love this device.
So, the performance is not normal, very slow for some tasking. I just downloaded CPU Z and it shows that all cores is working normally, but testing on antutu, i just got a 68k.
Already installed another rom but nothing changes...
Can anyone help me with some directions to solve that?
Thanks in advance.
Make sure all apps in the background are closed. Don't think your score is all that bad. You could try a custom kernel if your using twrp.
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Make sure all apps in the background are closed. Don't think your score is all that bad. You could try a custom kernel if your using twrp.
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All apps closed.
no, sorry but 68k is not normal for a nexus 6P.
I need to know what a hell is going on with this phone. Maybe it got a BLOD and the old owner raised him.
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All apps closed.
no, sorry but 68k is not normal for a nexus 6P.
I need to know what a hell is going on with this phone. Maybe it got a BLOD and the old owner raised him.
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Ok sorry your title said one thing and your comments another. Go to settings-system-about phone and look what is says under kernel. Or if that doesn't tell you could get a free kernel app like elemental app or kernel aduitor. Sometimes the big cores are put to sleep to save power but if you run something in the background will wake them up.
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Ok sorry your title said one thing and your comments another. Go to settings-system-about phone and look what is says under kernel. Or if that doesn't tell you could get a free kernel app like elemental app or kernel aduitor. Sometimes the big cores are put to sleep to save power but if you run something in the background will wake them up.
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To be clearer. I realized that my device was performing very poorly, so I downloaded CPUZ thinking that maybe my device had suffered BLOD and four cores was disabled.
In CPU-Z, i saw that the 8 cores is working normally.
I already changed the rom and with that the kernel has also been changed. but nothing has changed.
now, I have a cell phone with half the performance, but apparently the 8 clocks are working.
Can you understand now?
ps: a normal nexus 6P get 110k+ on antutu, mine is 68k.
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To be clearer. I realized that my device was performing very poorly, so I downloaded CPUZ thinking that maybe my device had suffered BLOD and four cores was disabled.
In CPU-Z, i saw that the 8 cores is working normally.
I already changed the rom and with that the kernel has also been changed. but nothing has changed.
now, I have a cell phone with half the performance, but apparently the 8 clocks are working.
Can you understand now?
ps: a normal nexus 6P get 110k+ on antutu, mine is 68k.
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I'm using stock 8.1 from March Google has really stepped up there game. I've never run this test before but here are my results. Maybe stock will yield better preformance give it a try.
Got 88,000 on lineage 15.1 with no tweaks. I did get an incoming text message and updates were installing while the test was running so I think my score could've been higher.