Having your cake and eating it too - Nexus 7 (2013) General

Most of life is a choice between one or the other but with the Nexus 7 along with Root, Custom Recovery, cm10.2 unofficial, Faux Clock Kernel Control App and Jassy Release 5 Kernel it might just be possible to have both. Jassy has managed to put together a kernel that combines a 1.9 GHz over clock and a 487 MHz GPU over clock. With a global undervolt of -24 MV I managed to pull off stunning benchmarks, smooth lag free performance and incredible battery time. Just under 13 hours battery time in fact. I did this with a YouTube kung fu movie fest for about 12 and a half hours and a half hour of benchmarks and downloading a few apps. Remember if you game you can not expect this kind of battery performance but it does do great at that as well. I've attached some screenshots of my settings so you can reproduce these results if you would like.
Remember when you Root, ROM and Over clock you do it at your own risk and please thank the fine Developers who gave their time to make this kind of fantasy possible. I in no way had a hand in developing this software, I just took the time to do many benches and battery tests on many Roms and kernels then undervolted a bit.
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Benchmarks
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Nice, will have to check this out
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787

Gareee said:
So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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Sorry I never saw your posts. Never looked at the thread again. To replicate my results you would have to download cm10.2 and Jassy release 5 and faux kernel control app paid version and set exactly like in the screen shots. I have since made a few more refinements but nothing you couldn't play with yourself. Make sure you enable mpdecision. Make every screen look like mine.

Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.

conan1600 said:
Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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How's stability with your set-up?

Gareee said:
Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Cleanrom will not bench as high. Its a stock based ROM. Truth is though once your this high your not gonna see a whole lot of improvement in daily performance unless you go looking for it. Cleanrom is one of the best Roms I've ever used and there is absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it. I go back and forth between the 2 myself. As themes and tweaks come out for nexus 7 2013 you'll find cleanrom will get even better than it is now also. Wish someone would do a tablet ui lol.

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How's stability with your set-up?
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I haven't had a single random reboot. Chrome works real well as long as you can change it from beta in lower left of xda page. I haven't overheated but I gotta tell you I'm no hardcore android gamer. Some angry birds from time to time or subway surfers lol. I have probably gamed for about an hour or so on these settings and not gone into a state of panic about temps though. Any longer than that or some other game and I couldn't say. in fact FOR me things are so smooth on this machine I had to order a new HP to tinker with lol. Seriously this is the best android machine I've owned. And buddy, I've had em all. I also use adaway so that may help with chrome as well.

Impressive scores man.
Yeah hesitant to jump to other roms myself at least at this time. Everything is so new finding a "good one" is hard to do at least yet. Though I've used CleanROM's on other devices I've had in the past and love them. Personally if CleanROM comes out with a 1.4 I might consider jumping into it.

Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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stanglifemike said:
Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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I have absolutely No interest in politics on my nexus 7 2013. if he did wrong, shame on him however I have tried each and every kernel control app on the market and reported my best results. I have yet to produce scores or battery life comparable even within 10% of fauxclock/Jassy R5 combo. I do not intend to do any research at all about whatever faux123 did or didn't do. I understand a personal grudge and respect your right to hold one. If your looking for something as close as you can get to his kernel control app try trickster. I didn't have a lot of success with it but you might find a combination that works close. If I were in the middle of whatever happened between faux123 and you or whoever I might have formulated an opinion. I'm not chiding you either. You brought an issue before me and I am simply stating I don't want involved as its in my humble opinion not my place or my fight, not to mention it appears it was already fought.
if I simply hated and didn't use a product based on someone else I don't know having a problem with that individual I wouldn't be able to buy anything, at all, anywhere, on earth, or in heaven, ever! If you tell me he harmed a baby and I see he was convicted of it in a trial of his peer's elected in a fair and balanced environment I will most certainly NOT have anything to do with him. But unproven or conflicting information, that may be due to personal interpretations is difficult for me to get involved in. Especially after the fact. And then there is the whole, if a man was punished for his crime do you continue to persecute him after he paid his dues thing.

Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.

What's your binning?

appreciate you sharing your jassy 5 set up with the fauxclock app. im on jassy 5 as well and have been running the setup that jassy posted but now im gonna try your set up. i just got one question about it: how is your sleep mode stand by time? i lose 1-2% in 8 hours

Gareee said:
Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
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I personally would call the current cm build almost RC material. I have no problems with it at all.
My bin was 14/2 if I'm not mistaken.
I probably lose a bit less than that but can't say for certain as I constantly use it lmao. I do get exceptional screen on time really. There are some screen shots on previous page I think.

Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)

Gareee said:
Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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You have to wipe on a first install.

conan1600 said:
You have to wipe on a first install.
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Ugh.

Related

Kernel scheduler improvement.

Hi there a good news for responsiveness.
A patch of 200 lines have been checked and approved by Linus, improving greatly responsiveness maybe it should be interesting to test it on our phones.
News and links available here.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
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Holy hell, thats a monumental difference!
Awesome, I HATE how laggy my Nexus One gets when I'm compiling the kernel with 64 threads.
Integrated it into my latest kernel build...hasn't tested it out yet though...
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Integrated it into my latest kernel build...hasn't tested it out yet though...
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Cool Can't wait to get my hands on this, (But have no time right now) .
Tested with new Rodriguez rom + intersectRaven kernel,
the new room is really nice to use, and the reactivity is awesome !
Really amazing, feel a huge difference in multitasking and fluidity.
Tried with the Miui browser included in the room, the web pages render time are really surprising really nice.
What is the name of the IR kernel you used?
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What is the name of the IR kernel you used?
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http://www.mediafire.com/intersectRaven
2.6.35.8_AVS-CM-NOBOOST_CFS_20101116_2127.zip
so... does this take care of the "Cannot find CPU Subsystem.." (something like this) errors in the logcat when the CPU is pegged ?
buttery smooth!! thanks!!
holy ****. so smooth. got 22fps in nenamark
vivanshah said:
holy ****. so smooth. got 22fps in nenamark
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Doubt thats related as this particular fix is about scheduling.
I get 21.7 FPS @1113, old 2.6.35.7 CM kernel
I'm not seeing any improvement actually...
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What benchmarks would this show up in on the n1?
There's no benchmark about responsiveness or latency of the system at the moment.
But you really can feel it with multitasking.
I've nimbuzz, Skype, tweetdeck, Gmail, Ms email etc everything always ON.
I switch a lot between applications and so I really fell the difference not freeze while switching between browser and calandar music etc.
My nexus one is clearly under heavy usage with me all the time.
So since there's no benches I cannot tell exactly how good it is. But phoronix speak about
-10% lag
+60% responsiveness
Which is awesome! Even just half of that would be excellent!
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What benchmarks would this show up in on the n1?
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What is wrong with you people??? If you can only see it in a benchmark, who cares?
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What is wrong with you people??? If you can only see it in a benchmark, who cares?
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Nothing wrong with me, would just like to see some real stats, its way too easy to think things "feel faster" especially if you are expecting them to, just like some people feel certain UV kernels have longer life than others, unless you actually do the numbers(which was done), it is really just what people "feel", and that is extremely unreliable.
IntersectRaven - how did u integrate the patch, i am unable to integrate it cleanly
Great!
Applied to PureFroyo kernel. Let's test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820172
got it to compile, now testing

Best Before Date

my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
Is the phone actually slower? Or just scoring lower scores?
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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Alcapone263 said:
Benchmarks mean nothing
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That was going to be my next statement.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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gentledroid17 said:
my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
thanks for the info fellow xdaers,,,,,
Voelker45 said:
I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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Actually I had the opposite experience. My original phone wouldn't boot with the clemsyn kernel. My digitizer bombed and I received a refurbished unit from repairs. The new unit runs the clemsyn kernel just fine. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw...
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tobnddl said:
There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
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gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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As tob said, those "so verry little script" can makes big differences sometimes
I would like to add my personal toughts, for me, the ROM actually scoring higher and higher and feel a litle bit more freshier each week past within the ROM... so my thoughts would be, the cache partition, the more longer the rom is implemented, the more score you'll get cause the cache slowly become bigger and bigger giving you full power to open something tough!
As for the battery, from my experiences, you can't really judge a battery life while you just flashed a rom, you got to wait until the first week to see if there a big changes between the other ROM you came from ... so my guess would be, those scripts and the longer the ROM is implemented on your phone, the more fast and stable it will get, and you will feel the power slowly coming out again!
My bad if I'm completely wrong, but it is my guess!
Hood luck with your "new" phone
i brought up some old Antutu scores and notice that my ram. cpu integar and floating point scores are extremely low. i have tried multiple kernels but still no change. now i am even more confused......doesn't take much. could it be that my cpu is locked so i can not overclock. it kinda feels like its only utilizing one core.
after weeks of exhaustive searching i finally found a fix that worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
pdsfix.zip
now my antutu scores are back up to around 7000. less lag in app drawer and opening /closing certain app. its back to silky smooth yeehaw.

User feedback

So I've got some time at the moment to work on the vibrant again, so I figured I'd ask you guys a question.
What are you guys wanting out of the vibrant?
I'm not really one to go for the latest and greatest buzz word feature like "Linaro build" or "optimized build prop," etc.
lengthy posts are encouraged, tell me what you still want out of this device. What do you use it for? What do you want to use it for? Etc.
Like I said, not looking for "gimme 500MB ram" or " an updated 2.3 kernel", I wanna know what user experience your looking for.
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No takers?
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Now we have almost faultless ROMs and kernels, the only issue is GPS.
+1 on GPS
lorendroll said:
Now we have almost faultless ROMs and kernels, the only issue is GPS.
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Point if the question was missed, it's not about faults. Also there are very talented individuals working on the GPS issues. I cannot test GPS as mine no longer works. I want to know not just for me but also the talented Devs working on the vibrant, what ideas do you guys have for improving the Android experience, just in this case I happen to be gearing it toward the vibrant as I won't be working in anything else myself. That doesn't mean it's faulty, there is always room for improvement.
Anyway...not monitoring this thread anymore....Idgaf anymore and people not gonna answer :3
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ECOTOX,
Just in case you do monitor this thread Ill give you a request. Ive built a couple of Froyo ROMs now, and plan to stick with Froyo for some time (at least until the EU error fixed)
That said I usually package the Bali 18.8.UV kernel with them. My favorite Froyo kernel is the DMZ kernel.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/633-kernel2213ghzdragonmodz-nightly3smartassscary8262011140pm/
What set your work apart is the fact it could stepclimp in 100mhz increments. My phone pukes at anything over 1100mhz. Its has the smartass governor (the one I want) that works perfectly. It is smooth, quick, and almost perfect for my needs. Ive only packaged it with one of my ROMs due to the lack to stepclimbing. Here is a request:
Ive tried up to 3 different overclock / volting programs. Tried to set it manually via init script, but the kernel has 2 stock settings: 500mhz / 1000mhz. If I I overclock to 1100mhz I only get three settings: 500/1000/1100. Is there any way you could get a 200mhz in there?
That said your git is available. I don't know how but I guess I could try and build my own based off your source / patches. You kinda sounded like you wanted to help/work some on the T959. With the EU error we have more folks coming back to Froyo every day. Froyo is not dead if I have anything to say about it -
Thanks for your time (I if read this)
+1 on GPS
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GPS is primarily due to inadequate or faulty hardware design. We have pushed the limits of trying to fix it with software guys.
I personally would love more battery life. I truly cannot get more than 45 minutes of screen time in ICS.
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How about intergrating more RAM?
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Moped_Ryder said:
ECOTOX,
Just in case you do monitor this thread Ill give you a request. Ive built a couple of Froyo ROMs now, and plan to stick with Froyo for some time (at least until the EU error fixed)
That said I usually package the Bali 18.8.UV kernel with them. My favorite Froyo kernel is the DMZ kernel.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/633-kernel2213ghzdragonmodz-nightly3smartassscary8262011140pm/
What set your work apart is the fact it could stepclimp in 100mhz increments. My phone pukes at anything over 1100mhz. Its has the smartass governor (the one I want) that works perfectly. It is smooth, quick, and almost perfect for my needs. Ive only packaged it with one of my ROMs due to the lack to stepclimbing. Here is a request:
Ive tried up to 3 different overclock / volting programs. Tried to set it manually via init script, but the kernel has 2 stock settings: 500mhz / 1000mhz. If I I overclock to 1100mhz I only get three settings: 500/1000/1100. Is there any way you could get a 200mhz in there?
That said your git is available. I don't know how but I guess I could try and build my own based off your source / patches. You kinda sounded like you wanted to help/work some on the T959. With the EU error we have more folks coming back to Froyo every day. Froyo is not dead if I have anything to say about it -
Thanks for your time (I if read this)
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Lol happened to be browsing the forum for info and saw you posted here.
I'll make you a kernel, but I'm not 100%sure I'm sticking with the 100mhz steps for my own release but I'll make you one specifically. I might, but I want to get voltage control working with 100mhz steps, I also gotta work on keeping the gpu clocks more stable.
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I would be in your debt sir. Thanks for your time.
I just wanted to say thanks for the great work on DMZ, ECOTOX. It has surpassed Overstock as my kernel of choice, but I had one quick question/request. Is it an issue with the kernel or with a particular ROM for some functions to get a little quirky when you start to overclock into the 1.2Ghz range? Whenever I set the CPU ceiling to 1.2Ghz the long press functions on the haptic buttons of the Vibrant would become flakey. I read that's fairly common with overclocking, but was curious who the culprit might be.
Not knowing anything about how scalers/governers can be implemented, what would the chances be to get something like Smartass v2 or a few more options on a new Froyo kernel? I liked messing around with them when I was running Sub-Zero on ICZen to find that happy medium of battery life vs performance.
I say a Galaxy S III themed gingerbread ROM. Anyone?

Some questions about ktmanta and other stuffszz

Zup everybody.
Im a new android user and im loving it. With Nexus 10 to be my first android device im very happy with it after i installed ktmanta Kernel.
although i had very litte knowlidge about what roms and kernel is/was i went for it anyways. It improved my experience alot, and everything is running real nice. Also gta vice city doesent lag at all. it lagged like hell before the kernal install.
Now i have few questions and i hope someone out there could help me with. ive seen a few threads on this forum and everyone seems to be nice unlike other forums (no names mentioned)
When i flashed (i think its called that way) the ktmanta kernel i knew that everything would dissapear, but im wondering now if there is a way to backup exact everything before loading a new rom or kernel?
also. when i play gta vice city i use min/max 1500/1500 on the cpu and it works really nice. the only problem is that i have to manually change it and after i have played the game i have to go back and change it to 200/1700 again.
can i somehow make an ikon that i push and the cpu go to 1500/1500 and if i push another icon it will go on the other setting? something like that?
Ive seen folks wright on forums that there is an app that can make your battery life better but never mention such app.
i have batterycalibr, is that the only one?
And the last question is, is there something you could recommend to a new android user (apps,widgets, specific roms, etc) ?
Im loving the android experience and im considering to sell my iphone 5 and buy a droid phone.
(please i apologize if my grammar or spelling isn't at the top)
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Zup everybody.
Im a new android user and im loving it. With Nexus 10 to be my first android device im very happy with it after i installed ktmanta Kernel.
although i had very litte knowlidge about what roms and kernel is/was i went for it anyways. It improved my experience alot, and everything is running real nice. Also gta vice city doesent lag at all. it lagged like hell before the kernal install.
Now i have few questions and i hope someone out there could help me with. ive seen a few threads on this forum and everyone seems to be nice unlike other forums (no names mentioned)
When i flashed (i think its called that way) the ktmanta kernel i knew that everything would dissapear, but im wondering now if there is a way to backup exact everything before loading a new rom or kernel?
also. when i play gta vice city i use min/max 1500/1500 on the cpu and it works really nice. the only problem is that i have to manually change it and after i have played the game i have to go back and change it to 200/1700 again.
can i somehow make an ikon that i push and the cpu go to 1500/1500 and if i push another icon it will go on the other setting? something like that?
Ive seen folks wright on forums that there is an app that can make your battery life better but never mention such app.
i have batterycalibr, is that the only one?
And the last question is, is there something you could recommend to a new android user (apps,widgets, specific roms, etc) ?
Im loving the android experience and im considering to sell my iphone 5 and buy a droid phone.
(please i apologize if my grammar or spelling isn't at the top)
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1. Try using titanium backup to backup your app data and you can restore it once you flash a new ROM/kernel. Remember, only backup app data, NOT system data or you may result in bootloops.
2. Not 100% sure if you could use the KTweaker app or SetCPU to set profiles when you're gaming but you might want to look into that. That being said, you shouldn't have to set your min at 1500 to have fluid gameplay, or at least I don't think so and it will drain your battery much faster. IMO, check out the franco kernel if you want to have the smoothest gameplay with no tweaking necessary and no drops in framerate.
3. I really don't believe in all of that battery calibrator, juice defender, or any other app that claims to significantly increase battery life. However, if you are going to use the KTManta kernel, you can undervolt your device and get some pretty awesome battery life.
4. What kind of apps, widgets, etc. are you looking for? Find out what your style is and customize accordingly. That's the awesome thing about Android!
Hope this helped... :good:
dust. said:
1. Try using titanium backup to backup your app data and you can restore it once you flash a new ROM/kernel. Remember, only backup app data, NOT system data or you may result in bootloops.
2. Not 100% sure if you could use the KTweaker app or SetCPU to set profiles when you're gaming but you might want to look into that. That being said, you shouldn't have to set your min at 1500 to have fluid gameplay, or at least I don't think so and it will drain your battery much faster. IMO, check out the franco kernel if you want to have the smoothest gameplay with no tweaking necessary and no drops in framerate.
3. I really don't believe in all of that battery calibrator, juice defender, or any other app that claims to significantly increase battery life. However, if you are going to use the KTManta kernel, you can undervolt your device and get some pretty awesome battery life.
4. What kind of apps, widgets, etc. are you looking for? Find out what your style is and customize accordingly. That's the awesome thing about Android!
Hope this helped... :good:
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Thanks for the fast answer.
IF i dont set my min to 1500 gta vice city laggs.
I downloaded the Franco kernel from play store bit nothing happend...
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p0xis said:
Thanks for the fast answer.
IF i dont set my min to 1500 gta vice city laggs.
I downloaded the Franco kernel from play store bit nothing happend...
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You have to flash the kernel with the app. It should be a very fast and easy process.
dust. said:
You have to flash the kernel with the app. It should be a very fast and easy process.
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Thanks alot mate. I payed for the Franco kernel and then downloaded a file and had to restart my tablet. I guess i did the process right.
Now gta runs really nice without me putting min/max at the same mhz
Can i delete the ktweakert now ?
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p0xis said:
Thanks alot mate. I payed for the Franco kernel and then downloaded a file and had to restart my tablet. I guess i did the process right.
Now gta runs really nice without me putting min/max at the same mhz
Can i delete the ktweakert now ?
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Yep! You won't be needing it anymore. I'm glad everything worked out for you!

settings for smooth scrolling

Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.
Try Faux123's latest kernel. While there may be no true cure for stuttery apps like Facebook, it almost goes away.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com
ShinnAsuka said:
Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com
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truth
simms22 said:
the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.
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What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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myturbo1 said:
What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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some apps still use software rendering, this forces them to use the hardware to render. this generally will give you a better experience. more battery.. no, not really.
You can use another governor like "interactive" to get more smoothness.
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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That`s total BS! MPDecision= Little smoothness at high price! Hot-plugging is wayyyy better than MPDecision! Less heat!? MAybe if your phone is idling but not if you`re using it!
SetiroN said:
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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I am also inclined to believe the opposite here man.. mpdecition has been around and used before project butter and Jelly Bean
. It literally sets your min freq to over 1 gigahertz just on a touch. Creates a lot of heat when turned on. Devs like faux who have building kernels for multiple devices for multiple years do know what their doing.
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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That was quite elaborative... I am also with mp decision might be... Coz on stock i dont know how but feel much smoothness rather than custom.
This might be might be coz i am not that much techy to tweak further the custom kernel. I run with default values of any custom kernel... Learning: wip. lolx
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Mokee os/sabermod + franko kernel linaro..
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And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Not all devs dropped mpdecision.
PJcastaldo said:
And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.
SetiroN said:
Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.
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i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
namurt said:
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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1. In scrolling is there a role of FPS?
2. What is sampling rate in a kernel. Increasing sampling rate in ondemand governer can make some resolve to this prob?
namurt said:
i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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hahahahaha
you really don't know who faux is

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