settings for smooth scrolling - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.

Try Faux123's latest kernel. While there may be no true cure for stuttery apps like Facebook, it almost goes away.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com

ShinnAsuka said:
Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com
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truth

simms22 said:
the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.
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What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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myturbo1 said:
What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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some apps still use software rendering, this forces them to use the hardware to render. this generally will give you a better experience. more battery.. no, not really.

You can use another governor like "interactive" to get more smoothness.

While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.

SetiroN said:
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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That`s total BS! MPDecision= Little smoothness at high price! Hot-plugging is wayyyy better than MPDecision! Less heat!? MAybe if your phone is idling but not if you`re using it!

SetiroN said:
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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I am also inclined to believe the opposite here man.. mpdecition has been around and used before project butter and Jelly Bean
. It literally sets your min freq to over 1 gigahertz just on a touch. Creates a lot of heat when turned on. Devs like faux who have building kernels for multiple devices for multiple years do know what their doing.
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.

SetiroN said:
Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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That was quite elaborative... I am also with mp decision might be... Coz on stock i dont know how but feel much smoothness rather than custom.
This might be might be coz i am not that much techy to tweak further the custom kernel. I run with default values of any custom kernel... Learning: wip. lolx
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SetiroN said:
Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Mokee os/sabermod + franko kernel linaro..

PJcastaldo said:
And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Not all devs dropped mpdecision.

PJcastaldo said:
And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.

SetiroN said:
Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.
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i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.

namurt said:
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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1. In scrolling is there a role of FPS?
2. What is sampling rate in a kernel. Increasing sampling rate in ondemand governer can make some resolve to this prob?

namurt said:
i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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hahahahaha
you really don't know who faux is

Related

Kernel scheduler improvement.

Hi there a good news for responsiveness.
A patch of 200 lines have been checked and approved by Linus, improving greatly responsiveness maybe it should be interesting to test it on our phones.
News and links available here.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
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Holy hell, thats a monumental difference!
Awesome, I HATE how laggy my Nexus One gets when I'm compiling the kernel with 64 threads.
Integrated it into my latest kernel build...hasn't tested it out yet though...
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Integrated it into my latest kernel build...hasn't tested it out yet though...
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Cool Can't wait to get my hands on this, (But have no time right now) .
Tested with new Rodriguez rom + intersectRaven kernel,
the new room is really nice to use, and the reactivity is awesome !
Really amazing, feel a huge difference in multitasking and fluidity.
Tried with the Miui browser included in the room, the web pages render time are really surprising really nice.
What is the name of the IR kernel you used?
fallingd0wn said:
What is the name of the IR kernel you used?
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http://www.mediafire.com/intersectRaven
2.6.35.8_AVS-CM-NOBOOST_CFS_20101116_2127.zip
so... does this take care of the "Cannot find CPU Subsystem.." (something like this) errors in the logcat when the CPU is pegged ?
buttery smooth!! thanks!!
holy ****. so smooth. got 22fps in nenamark
vivanshah said:
holy ****. so smooth. got 22fps in nenamark
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Doubt thats related as this particular fix is about scheduling.
I get 21.7 FPS @1113, old 2.6.35.7 CM kernel
I'm not seeing any improvement actually...
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What benchmarks would this show up in on the n1?
There's no benchmark about responsiveness or latency of the system at the moment.
But you really can feel it with multitasking.
I've nimbuzz, Skype, tweetdeck, Gmail, Ms email etc everything always ON.
I switch a lot between applications and so I really fell the difference not freeze while switching between browser and calandar music etc.
My nexus one is clearly under heavy usage with me all the time.
So since there's no benches I cannot tell exactly how good it is. But phoronix speak about
-10% lag
+60% responsiveness
Which is awesome! Even just half of that would be excellent!
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liam.lah said:
What benchmarks would this show up in on the n1?
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What is wrong with you people??? If you can only see it in a benchmark, who cares?
teh_lorax said:
What is wrong with you people??? If you can only see it in a benchmark, who cares?
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Nothing wrong with me, would just like to see some real stats, its way too easy to think things "feel faster" especially if you are expecting them to, just like some people feel certain UV kernels have longer life than others, unless you actually do the numbers(which was done), it is really just what people "feel", and that is extremely unreliable.
IntersectRaven - how did u integrate the patch, i am unable to integrate it cleanly
Great!
Applied to PureFroyo kernel. Let's test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820172
got it to compile, now testing

What's the point of overclocking???

Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.
bruceko86 said:
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
bruceko86 said:
Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain
It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.
If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).
Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth
Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.
I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!
OneGoodKnock said:
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.
I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.
mputtr said:
For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.

The Best Kernel

Here is the best kernel for stock based x10 roms.
n5-1 http://www.mediafire.com/?z8voe760ok24doy
ALL THANKS TO THJAP
You don't know what you've been missing! This is for locked bootloaders so flash it with xrecovery. For unlocked bootloaders flash baseband .71 with flashtool first which also gives you the stock kernel. Then you can flash this kernel through recovery.
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Features?
Farik335 said:
Features?
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Im not even sure whats different about this one over others. All I know is its way better than any other I've tryed.
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There is no such thing as a "Best kernel"! it grealty depends on what rom you're using, which settings you apply, ram, number of apps, cpu frequencies, governors and i/o scheduler. It also greatly differs per phone!!!!!
This one doesnt work on jaf rom!
It makes my phone to stuck at bootscreen!
And after flashing back to dooms kernel,everything is lagging,so i had to restore a backup!really a great kernel!
After flashing this My phone speed is like flashing the new Adreno ICS Driver its really slow
OK OK OK
I know benchmarks don't mean anything to you guys.
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JeffreyPiket said:
Read this and weep!!!!!
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Man. I thought that would spark a reaction.
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tonyreimer said:
OK OK OK
I know benchmarks don't mean anything to you guys.
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Read it and weep!!!!!
Dani897 said:
benchmarks are basically useless to the end user. fun to compare but dont think about it too much. a benchmark like quadrant can show a low score based on one area of poor performance but there is no guarantee that that will cause a bottleneck for data. it can also generate a high score based on one area and there is no proof that it is benificial. for instance we use voodoo lagfix that increases filesystem io according to the method quadrant usses to measure it by a fairly significant amount. it has never been proven to reduce hesitation of the phone outside of perception of the user, it is a good mod and i dont knock it im just trying to be objective. the thing is that data goes throught many componants and is held in ram and cached on the cpu, as long as the useage is light the file system performance is barely an issue because there are several systems that act as buffers, only when processing long sets of data uninterupted will the certain speeds become a bottleneck.
for a good analogy it is like drinking through a straw vs drinking through a hose vs drinking through a 1ft diameter pipe. the straw may slow the speed you can drink while the hose will not, but the pipe can supply much more water yet it is of no benifit to the person drinking because he can only drink so fast.
add cacheing into the analogy and it is like filling a glass through a straw a pipe and a hose. the glass can supply the person drinking as fast as they need it, but only holds so much liquid, it is enough in for on person but if several people want to drink (multi tasking or heavy usage) the staw will be a bottle neck, the hose will not and the pipe though overkill may make things marginally faster. now if there is alot of caheing it may be more like filling buckets and then the pipe may help but only when there is an enormous amount of data being used and in that case it needs to be processed just as fast, this is when the cpu can become a bottle neck.
it is very difficult to write a benchmark that can take this into account so it is hard to tell the usefullness of the data the benchmark gives you without reading the results of the individual tests it performs and making judgment calls.
we can increase our benchmark scores for filesystem by changing the filesystem to ext4, and even better by going with nilfs or nilfs2. we can increase sequencial reads by increasing readahead but that reduces random performance and waists resources. it all becomes a big balancing act and the end results can vary.
there are also ways to change the ram timing, the dalvik cache heap size, alter the ram disks, we can make the rom smaller and remove stock apps that are not needed, turn off background services that use resources, change polling frequencies to save resources, change governors to ramp up faster, alter and compile drivers for more efficient use of hardware, and a long list of other things. some work extremely well, some don't. some will make the phone snappier and have no effect on benchmarks, some will greatly increase benchmarks and not the feel of the phone.
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Check out the 2d and 3d on the bottom of the top screen shot. I challenge you to get that good on both of them with any other kernel on our old x10.
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Check out the 2d and 3d on the bottom of the top screen shot. I challenge you to get that good on both of them with any other kernel on our old x10.
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No Comment... don't feel offended.. but
Did you read anything from the text Jeffrey posted?
You, well not you, but any good Dev can tweak a kernel and rom, to be good in Benchmarks.. while the general User Experience just plain sucks..
And to be honest, almost every ICS Rom with a somewhat decent optimized Kernel, has more 2D and 3D points than your screenshot.. i don't even need to post proof. it's a fact, even with the Xperia X10.
And there is no such thing as a best kernel...
Depending on the user, every Kernel has it dis-/advantages..
And thats why i think it's good for your ROM to support multiple Kernels, a thing many dev's are still missing, because when you have multiple Kernels, every user can use the Kernel best suited for his needs.
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No Comment... don't feel offended.. but
Did you read anything from the text Jeffrey posted?
You, well not you, but any good Dev can tweak a kernel and rom, to be good in Benchmarks.. while the general User Experience just plain sucks..
And to be honest, almost every ICS Rom with a somewhat decent optimized Kernel, has more 2D and 3D points than your screenshot.. i don't even need to post proof. it's a fact, even with the Xperia X10.
And there is no such thing as a best kernel...
Depending on the user, every Kernel has it dis-/advantages..
And thats why i think it's good for your ROM to support multiple Kernels, a thing many dev's are still missing, because when you have multiple Kernels, every user can use the Kernel best suited for his needs.
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Ya, I read it. I haven't tryed ics yet cause i use my phone as my internet connection. OK thats fine. I don't really care if not anyone else uses this kernel but as for me its the best one I've ever had. Peace
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:silly: That's all!
etedeni fhall
JeffreyPiket said:
There is no such thing as a "Best kernel"! it grealty depends on what rom you're using, which settings you apply, ram, number of apps, cpu frequencies, governors and i/o scheduler. It also greatly differs per phone!!!!!
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Totally agree with this post

How to speed up phone and fix launcher lag

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=ram+manager+free
Download this app grant superuser permissions click balance scroll down and check lock launcher in memory. And enjoy the speed.
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Or use the original V6 Supercharger, which was poorly copied by that app
V6 or nothing.
I don't need this app since I use DiXperia 2 ROM. Super smooth even with millions widgets installed.
Prefer stock for the official support and this app is helpful for gaming lag/etc.
Prefer this app to v6
I remember seeing Juwe11 post a ram script and it was hell popular last time too. Why is it accused of being a copy now?
i downlaoded the pro version, switch to hard gamming, and i still have the same performance on dead trigger, a bit laggy and with some frame drops, im running the game on the lowest setting
i wanna pimp my xplay..
gac3la said:
i downlaoded the pro version, switch to hard gamming, and i still have the same performance on dead trigger, a bit laggy and with some frame drops, im running the game on the lowest setting
i wanna pimp my xplay..
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Use the less aggressive hard gaming one. Its far better for our amount of ram
Jordanooo said:
Use the less aggressive hard gaming one. Its far better for our amount of ram
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Hard Gamming ( Less Agressive ) Mode: ON
Zep (the creator of V6) claims RMP stole some numbers and OOM fixes he used for his script. Which is why V6 wont even install if you have RMP somewhere installed.
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I don't need this app since I use DiXperia 2 ROM. Super smooth even with millions widgets installed.
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I only have 3 widgets and it still hangs :S
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drivenby said:
Zep (the creator of V6) claims RMP stole some numbers and OOM fixes he used for his script. Which is why V6 wont even install if you have RMP somewhere installed.
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I have both running :S
even with HARD GAMMING less agressive, the same laggy performance for my games
gac3la said:
i downlaoded the pro version, switch to hard gamming, and i still have the same performance on dead trigger, a bit laggy and with some frame drops, im running the game on the lowest setting
i wanna pimp my xplay..
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Go and check out Project Lard
It helps so much, even tho its Ment to speed up UI it speeds up gaming 2!!!,C:
This app is SUPER and better than RAM Manager app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5idXJha2dvbi5nYW1lYm9vc3RlcjIiXQ..
All of this is just placebo until numbers can be shown, and even then its not for sure. Even Antutu can be + or - 1000 points depending what cycle the moon is in (joke), but yeah I believe 90% of the scripts out there don't do anything useful at all. I've never noticed a difference. Even the bravia engine is a joke, unless you side by side a hi res picture, you really aren't going to notice difference.
In past, i used this. And i think that is placebo effect, like others. No real or significant results.
You guys are digging out 7 months old topic... I reckon that none of these folks from 08.2012 are going to look back into this thread after 7 months..
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olokos said:
You guys are digging out 7 months old topic... I reckon that none of these folks from 08.2012 are going to look back into this thread after 7 months..
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To be honest, I don't think people can win. If they start a new topic about something then they are told to use the search as the topic already exists elsewhere but then if they do use the search and find a relevant topic then they are told its too old. How can you win?
In my opinion, if the topic is relevant, the age of the thread shouldn't matter. Its much better to have an old thread with a lot of contributions to it than the same thread posted 100x over.
i hate all that placebo think they love to play with our mind....lol, like the volume control apps, that gains bout 120% of volume gain...lol not true

Having your cake and eating it too

Most of life is a choice between one or the other but with the Nexus 7 along with Root, Custom Recovery, cm10.2 unofficial, Faux Clock Kernel Control App and Jassy Release 5 Kernel it might just be possible to have both. Jassy has managed to put together a kernel that combines a 1.9 GHz over clock and a 487 MHz GPU over clock. With a global undervolt of -24 MV I managed to pull off stunning benchmarks, smooth lag free performance and incredible battery time. Just under 13 hours battery time in fact. I did this with a YouTube kung fu movie fest for about 12 and a half hours and a half hour of benchmarks and downloading a few apps. Remember if you game you can not expect this kind of battery performance but it does do great at that as well. I've attached some screenshots of my settings so you can reproduce these results if you would like.
Remember when you Root, ROM and Over clock you do it at your own risk and please thank the fine Developers who gave their time to make this kind of fantasy possible. I in no way had a hand in developing this software, I just took the time to do many benches and battery tests on many Roms and kernels then undervolted a bit.
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Nice, will have to check this out
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
Gareee said:
So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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Sorry I never saw your posts. Never looked at the thread again. To replicate my results you would have to download cm10.2 and Jassy release 5 and faux kernel control app paid version and set exactly like in the screen shots. I have since made a few more refinements but nothing you couldn't play with yourself. Make sure you enable mpdecision. Make every screen look like mine.
Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
conan1600 said:
Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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How's stability with your set-up?
Gareee said:
Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Cleanrom will not bench as high. Its a stock based ROM. Truth is though once your this high your not gonna see a whole lot of improvement in daily performance unless you go looking for it. Cleanrom is one of the best Roms I've ever used and there is absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it. I go back and forth between the 2 myself. As themes and tweaks come out for nexus 7 2013 you'll find cleanrom will get even better than it is now also. Wish someone would do a tablet ui lol.
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How's stability with your set-up?
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I haven't had a single random reboot. Chrome works real well as long as you can change it from beta in lower left of xda page. I haven't overheated but I gotta tell you I'm no hardcore android gamer. Some angry birds from time to time or subway surfers lol. I have probably gamed for about an hour or so on these settings and not gone into a state of panic about temps though. Any longer than that or some other game and I couldn't say. in fact FOR me things are so smooth on this machine I had to order a new HP to tinker with lol. Seriously this is the best android machine I've owned. And buddy, I've had em all. I also use adaway so that may help with chrome as well.
Impressive scores man.
Yeah hesitant to jump to other roms myself at least at this time. Everything is so new finding a "good one" is hard to do at least yet. Though I've used CleanROM's on other devices I've had in the past and love them. Personally if CleanROM comes out with a 1.4 I might consider jumping into it.
Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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stanglifemike said:
Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
SwiftKey'ed from my '13 Nexus 7 FHD using XDA Premium HD
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I have absolutely No interest in politics on my nexus 7 2013. if he did wrong, shame on him however I have tried each and every kernel control app on the market and reported my best results. I have yet to produce scores or battery life comparable even within 10% of fauxclock/Jassy R5 combo. I do not intend to do any research at all about whatever faux123 did or didn't do. I understand a personal grudge and respect your right to hold one. If your looking for something as close as you can get to his kernel control app try trickster. I didn't have a lot of success with it but you might find a combination that works close. If I were in the middle of whatever happened between faux123 and you or whoever I might have formulated an opinion. I'm not chiding you either. You brought an issue before me and I am simply stating I don't want involved as its in my humble opinion not my place or my fight, not to mention it appears it was already fought.
if I simply hated and didn't use a product based on someone else I don't know having a problem with that individual I wouldn't be able to buy anything, at all, anywhere, on earth, or in heaven, ever! If you tell me he harmed a baby and I see he was convicted of it in a trial of his peer's elected in a fair and balanced environment I will most certainly NOT have anything to do with him. But unproven or conflicting information, that may be due to personal interpretations is difficult for me to get involved in. Especially after the fact. And then there is the whole, if a man was punished for his crime do you continue to persecute him after he paid his dues thing.
Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
What's your binning?
appreciate you sharing your jassy 5 set up with the fauxclock app. im on jassy 5 as well and have been running the setup that jassy posted but now im gonna try your set up. i just got one question about it: how is your sleep mode stand by time? i lose 1-2% in 8 hours
Gareee said:
Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
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I personally would call the current cm build almost RC material. I have no problems with it at all.
My bin was 14/2 if I'm not mistaken.
I probably lose a bit less than that but can't say for certain as I constantly use it lmao. I do get exceptional screen on time really. There are some screen shots on previous page I think.
Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
Gareee said:
Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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You have to wipe on a first install.
conan1600 said:
You have to wipe on a first install.
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Ugh.

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