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Quadrant scores

Ok so ive rooted this toy, flashed the 1.2ghz kernal and ran quadrant on it. I hit anywhere from 1080 to 1180. Have setcpu on demand at 800 min and 1200 max so why on earth is my rooted nook color running android 2.1 and a flashed 1100mhz kernal hitting wayyyy higher scores? (Around 1280) doesnt seem logical at all. Specially cause this is an actual tablet and thats just a rooted e reader. Did I do something wrong?
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Quadrant is a bad benchmark. It weights i/o far too heavily.
The Tabs RFS filesystems bring its Quadrant score way below where it should be, though in actual use it's very fast.
If you move to EXT4, your Quadrant scores will shoot up by around 80%.
Regards,
Dave

O sweet love of mary. 80% you say. Ok ive seen some posts redarding this ext4 thingymabob. Ill check it out. So if im understanding you correctly by changing to this my tab will perform even better than it does now? Or ill just see a genaric increase on this quadrant test that really means nothing? Sorry im noobish lol
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Well, my tab is currently on ext4 and my quadrant scores completely destroys my rfs score taken earlier.
However, that said, i don't really feel any performance improvements except the satisfaction knowing that my toy is now on an open and faster file system as opposed to a propriatory and slower one ;-)
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Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
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Quadrant scores aren't as accurate as people think you know...
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There's an app called OCLF that will transparently add an EXT4 area on the RFS filesystem without needing to convert the whole thing to EXT4, giving you EXT4 IO performance in an easily installable and reversible way. Probably your best choice for trying it out. Otherwise, for the complete conversion, you could try this Modaco ROM/Kernel, which includes a complete conversion to EXT4.
As far as performance differences go, it makes a huge (10x) difference to the Quadrant IO score (measured before and after figures), but no measurable difference to actual performance (measured real-world usage figures). Some people claim to notice a subjective difference, but I never did.

Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.
And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.

conan1600 said:
Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
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hi,
please be aware that the modaco kernel (rfs/ext4) will not work on CDMA Tabs.
from modaco kernel thread
This kernel is ONLY tested on a UK Galaxy Tab. It MAY work on other GSM Tabs, it almost certainly WON'T work on a CDMA Tab. If you have a non UK Tab and want to test (and know how to flash back to a regular version), then go ahead and report your results. At your own risk.
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mike

robertsydbrink said:
Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.
And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.
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That's the point!
It makes a huge difference in Quadrant, which is a synthetic benchmark, but far, far less difference in real world usage - hence it is a crap benchmark!
Pre-EXT4 my Tab would pull around 1000 in Quadrant, whereas my Desire HD would pull around 1800. However in real usage, they seem to perform pretty much the same which is not too surprising as they are similarly specified. On EXT4, my Tab pulls around 1800 now, but still performs much like my DHD.
I so wish people would stop bandying about Quadrant scores because they are meaningless.
Regards,
Dave

If you look at the scores in quadrant , they are split by colour so you can see how good the graphics capabilities are for example and compare to other phones. The colour codes are at the bottom of quadrant by the way

Linpack is a better benchmark. Not perfect, but better

Not really - Linpack only tests floating point performance.
Regards,
Dave

Wow, I started a heated discussion lol. Well ive downloaded the one click lag fix but have not applied the ext2 tools as yet. Want to do more reading about it first. Obviously I want my yab to be the best it can be but I surely dont want to make it genericly better at the expence of my video grafix as one user said he suffered in that thread.
More reserch required
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Taking Quadrant scores aside, when I made the switch from CF-Root to the Ext4 MCK, I really did notice a huge improvement in real world usage. I'm not sure if it is really because of the change in file system, but nevertheless thats the only big thing present in that kernel aside from CWM.

Everything said make sense and seems to be valid but let me share my experience.
I have Samsung Galaxy Vibrant and T-mobile Tab. Now both are using EXT4 file system and have fully functional recovery allowing for flashing straight from the phone.
Both now have Quanrant score around 1700-1800 and run very smothly.
Is I/O speed important? I think it is very important because task switching requires reading of huge chuncks of memory. Until read operation completed the user is essencially suspended. Multitasking is the major distinction of Android and lags associated with the tasks switching might be the most noticeable issue since its used so much. Converting of the RFS file system to EXT4 practically reduced lags to unnoticeable level. I don't need any better.
Another critical area for I/O is playing video and especially capturing HD video. The latter works only if I set internal storage and shut down all tasks.
This is work in progress but it seems it reached level of usability when most critical bugs eliminated.
It should be noted that the Tab is flashed with Rotohammer KM2 v1 ROM and Paul Obrien's kernel on a top. The kernel contains scripts converting the file system and flashing recovery. This combination works well, no issues so far.

Well I decided to give it a try and after install my quadrant is 2556 and linpack is 16.865 mflops at 1200mhz. Good scores but just numbers. I do however believe im seeing a bit of snap that I didnt have before when accessing my library. Still really unsure if this is a good thing as im not sure if I can use apps to sd anymore so I may uninstall at some point in the future but thanks to all you who helped the old man out. Atm im quite happy
Now lets get ta craka lackin on a 1.5 ghz update for our tabs
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Of course you can use a2sd. Froyo does it by default
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I think you are pushing!
Overclocking will raise processor/RAM heat dissipation and thus might lead to a catastrophic failure. It would be great to have temperature sensor on the board or at least measure current consumption from the battery but it is not easy.

Of course im a pushin lol. Only way to achieve is to try. Course ive read about the tab proccessor being able to handle 1.4 stable and can handle 1.6... Not that id know about these things first hand. Just taking the words of better men.
Just an old man with a little time to kill and a dream to be able to play facebook cityville on my tab haha. Well that and I have always enjoyed souping up my toys lmao.
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What's the point of overclocking???

Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?

bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.

bruceko86 said:
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.

bruceko86 said:
Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain

It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.

If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).

Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth

Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.

Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.

here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.

I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!

OneGoodKnock said:
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.

I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.

mputtr said:
For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.

Benchmarks DO Matter!

hi. i have seen people here saying that "Benchmarks prove nothing" and even one of the Senior member saying so.
but what i have experienced after using Note and switching between different ROMS like Rocket Rom v22 and v23, Midnote, CheckRom and Stunner Rom, i have found that Yes the Benchmarks Do matter a lot in terms of just explaining how your phone will perform.
i mean i ran the bencmarks on all of these Roms and i used them all for about 4 to 5 days each, and i found that not all of these give equal results and not all of these are equal.
the Check rom performed the worst among all of these Roms. by the time i installed it, my phone started giving me issues. like the battery issue. whenever i connected the phone to the data cable and either connect to my pc or laptop or even the charger, there would a screen popup saying, battery removed! i did everything i could do to fix this issue but all in vain.
well the best Rom in terms of performance is the Rocket Rom. rocket rom gave me the highest scores and i found it to be the most stable Rom.
Midnote was ok rom. it gave me really good benchmark scores but there were lots of force closes.
i really dont want to talk about the CheckRom. it gave me the lowest scores and it proved to be the most buggy rom i have used, and then came the battery removed issue.
Surprisingly i, the ICS Stunner Rom was the Rom which gave me around 110000 score in the Browser mark in the native browser, but for the rest of the benchmarks it gave me normal scores.
so in my point of view the best rom for note for now is the Rocket rom, but if u want buttery smooth UI and 199% smoothness, go for the ICS Stunner. but the payoff is that u loose the SNote and the screen capture capability which i really love about my note.
hence proved, Benchmark Results Do make a difference!...... These are my own personal results and you may have different results but I thought I would share my findings....

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hence proved, Benchmark Results Do make a difference!
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Hardly proved! Far from it.
Benchmarks *can* give you an indication of performance, but *nothing* is better than simply trying out different ROMs and making your own objective decision.
Fwiw though, some benchmarks simply aren't worth the time and effort - Quadrant, I'm looking at you!
Regards,
Dave
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I am gonna steal my friend's Chasmodo quote (credits to Chas)
A man without a benchmark is like a camel without electric toothbrush
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Benchmarking could be slightly usefull when comparing different roms though optimalizations that are specifically made to reduce boottime, remove lag or whatever might not show up in te scores.
Using benchmarks to compare phones is definately useless, for example because Android forces you to run apps in the native phone resolution. The Note runs at 1280x800 which means any phone with a similar GPU but lower resolution like the standard 800x480 could synthetically outperform the Note.

Just to throw another point in there I know it can be easily disputed but take for example iOS and windows phone.
Windows phones are limited to single core and they still run smoothly due to optimization.
the latest iPhone 4s has a dual core A5s @ 800mhz, yet it still runs smoothly.
As mentioned above in the thread the only real way is to try out the phone for yourself.

Dude, it's obvious you're no scientist. You haven't proved anything trying to connect benchmark scores with stability and force closes. The only thing a benchmark could indicate is possibly smoothness. It's all about you simply trying different ROMs and finding one that is subjectively working best for you.
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Benchmarks generally test specific capabilities of hardware: arithmetic calculations, GPU performance, etc.
That being the case they are a good yard stick for how the HARDWARE of different devices compare in terms of performance for the most part. Although software and the OS do obviously play their part, the tests are generally targeted at exercising specific aspects of the 'computer' rather than the overall OS.
OS performance is another, much more complex, aspect that benchmarks struggle to cater for. Small changes in benchmark scores between different ROMs is unlikely to tell us much. Somebody who reviews those ROMs and give a fair summary of the overall performance, stability, etc is a much better guide (like the OP, in this case - after a fashion!)

Check Rom is '****ty'?
What utter claptrap. Only proves you have no idea about how to set your phone up properly.
As for the battery issue, really? I've been running checkrom on 3 notes(mine,my wifes and my dads) and never had fcs, battery issues.
Benchmarks are for people like you.

aami.aami said:
the Check rom is the Most ****ty Rom i have used among all of these Roms. by the time i installed it, my phone started giving me ****ty issues.
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Yo, Benchmarker, watch your language.
Calling any development '****ty' just showcases your poor manners, egomania and general absence of intelligent thinking.
The devs give you something for free.
You don't like it, move on. And keep shtum about it. That's what people with manners do.
I wish you luck in your future benchmarking endeavors, and hope never to hear about them.

Benchmarks don't prove a ****. But I do it every time I try out a new kernel and waste 5 precious minutes of my life.
By the way, calling Checkrom ****ty was insult of all checkrom devs and ultimately an insult of xda itself, we are here because of all these devs.
You simply could have said it had lowest benchmarks or even it was sub par.
May I hope that next time you will carry general code of conduct and keep your ****ty opinions within your skull ?

chasmodo said:
Yo, Benchmarker, watch your language.
Calling any development '****ty' just showcases your poor manners, egomania and general absence of intelligent thinking.
The devs give you something for free.
You don't like it, move on. And keep shtum about it. That's what people with manners do.
I wish you luck in your future benchmarking endeavors, and hope never to hear about them.
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That's what I'm talking about.
Don't benchmark the OS and mobile, but benchmark your brain that is it capable enough to run that device at its fullest without the need of any score to prove anything.
Just my 2 cents.

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hence proved, Benchmark Results Do make a difference!
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where have you proved anything? you really are a bit deluded arent you

Benchmark are valuable in terms of relative comparison to the same benchmark.
Benchmark just don't correlate well to real world performance.
IE: Note LTE ATT on speed app runs 15-20 M's, mine runs 7-9 in same location. Same network. Yet download Engadget simultaneously and they're even.

Benchmarks prove nothing.
/wisdom

mfractal said:
Benchmarks prove nothing.
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Benchmarks prove everything.
/wisdumb

Zamboney said:
Dude, it's obvious you're no scientist. You haven't proved anything trying to connect benchmark scores with stability and force closes. The only thing a benchmark could indicate is possibly smoothness. It's all about you simply trying different ROMs and finding one that is subjectively working best for you.
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i really dont understand why some people dont understand what the main point some statement is. its quite simple, nothing scientific and i did not talk about any technicalities. see for your self, the more smoother the ROM is the more better the Hardware of the phone is going with the build of the ROM that's obvious, right? now that would mean more room for the hardware of the phone to be available for better benchmark results.

aami.aami said:
i really dont understand why some people dont understand what the main point some statement is. its quite simple, nothing scientific and i did not talk about any technicalities. see for your self, the more smoother the ROM is the more better the Hardware of the phone is going with the build of the ROM that's obvious, right? now that would mean more room for the hardware of the phone to be available for better benchmark results.
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probably but not necessarily, correlation does not mean causation,
each benchmark result is moreless the weighted average of few or more individual test results - now let's take Quadrant, which is (was?) heavily biased towards 3D graphics performance - how much is that representative of ROM performance under typical (non-gaming) phone usage?
PS.
Benchmarks may matter. Size matters more.
(Anyone telling otherwise is either ashamed or trying to be nice)

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Watch your language....... nothing wrong with arguing about results or subjective findings, but almost all opinions are subjective..... so discuss nicely or we close the thread if flaming starts up
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One thing apple got google and its oem beats. Dont fking look at the hardware and benchmark. Look at the user experience. Not saying ios and iphone is great for the folks who like to tinker. But for a dual core 800mhz iphone4 or ipad2 it sure runs a lot smoother than a note with stock touchwiz or some other launcher. Afterall u r using ur device, ur own judgement should tell u how good the device is not some program score. And there will always room for hardware improvement, but can the software follows? How many app is actually utilizing multi core process?
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put new Kernels you will see big different in benchmark.
From my experience testing roms + kernels I see that benchmarks really nothing
I got with Antutu benchamrk with stock rom and stock kernel about 6900 score
but it was so laggy and battery sucks. atm using Chrack´s rom extra small + speedmod v10 and its perfect no lags good battery life smooth but the benchmark sucked got like 4500. So benchmarks aren't the way to chose a rom otherwise there is no need to test and share experience with people

Best Before Date

my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks

Is the phone actually slower? Or just scoring lower scores?
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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Alcapone263 said:
Benchmarks mean nothing
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That was going to be my next statement.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.

gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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gentledroid17 said:
my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!

thanks for the info fellow xdaers,,,,,

Voelker45 said:
I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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Actually I had the opposite experience. My original phone wouldn't boot with the clemsyn kernel. My digitizer bombed and I received a refurbished unit from repairs. The new unit runs the clemsyn kernel just fine. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw...
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tobnddl said:
There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
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gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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As tob said, those "so verry little script" can makes big differences sometimes
I would like to add my personal toughts, for me, the ROM actually scoring higher and higher and feel a litle bit more freshier each week past within the ROM... so my thoughts would be, the cache partition, the more longer the rom is implemented, the more score you'll get cause the cache slowly become bigger and bigger giving you full power to open something tough!
As for the battery, from my experiences, you can't really judge a battery life while you just flashed a rom, you got to wait until the first week to see if there a big changes between the other ROM you came from ... so my guess would be, those scripts and the longer the ROM is implemented on your phone, the more fast and stable it will get, and you will feel the power slowly coming out again!
My bad if I'm completely wrong, but it is my guess!
Hood luck with your "new" phone

i brought up some old Antutu scores and notice that my ram. cpu integar and floating point scores are extremely low. i have tried multiple kernels but still no change. now i am even more confused......doesn't take much. could it be that my cpu is locked so i can not overclock. it kinda feels like its only utilizing one core.

after weeks of exhaustive searching i finally found a fix that worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
pdsfix.zip
now my antutu scores are back up to around 7000. less lag in app drawer and opening /closing certain app. its back to silky smooth yeehaw.

settings for smooth scrolling

Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.

Try Faux123's latest kernel. While there may be no true cure for stuttery apps like Facebook, it almost goes away.
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faddyie said:
Can any one guide me thru the best setting for smooth scrolling.
While using facebook for example, the scrolling up and down is not smooth.
It lags.
Currently on pacman powered by franco m3.
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Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com

ShinnAsuka said:
Just use the mobile facebook site. It is much better and its practically the FB app.
Just create a shortcut on your launcher to m.facebook.com
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truth

simms22 said:
the facebook app just sucks.
try using the force gpu rendering option in developer options in the phones main settings.
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What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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myturbo1 said:
What exactly is force GPU rendering their for ?
Also does it effect battery or anything etc
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some apps still use software rendering, this forces them to use the hardware to render. this generally will give you a better experience. more battery.. no, not really.

You can use another governor like "interactive" to get more smoothness.

While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.

SetiroN said:
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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That`s total BS! MPDecision= Little smoothness at high price! Hot-plugging is wayyyy better than MPDecision! Less heat!? MAybe if your phone is idling but not if you`re using it!

SetiroN said:
While some apps aren't as well written as they should be, and Android isn't quite capable of perfectly fluid and hiccup-free performance just yet, use a kernel that doesn't do the ridiculous thing of disabling MPDecision, which is a part of project butter that many kernel developers pretentiously disable, thinking that they're more capable than google+qualcomm. Funny thing is, contrary to general belief, your phone will even heat up less.
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I am also inclined to believe the opposite here man.. mpdecition has been around and used before project butter and Jelly Bean
. It literally sets your min freq to over 1 gigahertz just on a touch. Creates a lot of heat when turned on. Devs like faux who have building kernels for multiple devices for multiple years do know what their doing.
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.

SetiroN said:
Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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That was quite elaborative... I am also with mp decision might be... Coz on stock i dont know how but feel much smoothness rather than custom.
This might be might be coz i am not that much techy to tweak further the custom kernel. I run with default values of any custom kernel... Learning: wip. lolx
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Yeah well, believe what you want to believe, it's not my job to change your mind.
I did my own testing rather than believing and came to my own conclusions; I could take 30 minutes to explain the actual behaviour of MPdecision compared to those hand written hotplug drivers, but I really have no interest in trying to convince anyone who's happy with their beliefs.
OP was asking for advice on how to make his device smoother (without even mentioning heat or power consumption) and I gave it to him. I'm happier with MPDecision, maybe he'll be as well; I don't really want to start a discussion with whom is already satisfied otherwise.
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And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Mokee os/sabermod + franko kernel linaro..

PJcastaldo said:
And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Not all devs dropped mpdecision.

PJcastaldo said:
And yes im confident your testing and knowledge goes beyond devs who have been building longer than you've been on XDA.. :thumbup:
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Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.

SetiroN said:
Again, I really don't care what you think.
Confide in whatever you wish, you're free to trust people whoring for donations as much as you want.
I'll keep compiling and testing things myself without giving a crap.
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i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.

namurt said:
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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1. In scrolling is there a role of FPS?
2. What is sampling rate in a kernel. Increasing sampling rate in ondemand governer can make some resolve to this prob?

namurt said:
i think "whoring" is overstepping. kernel devs such as franco and faux certainly aren't in it for the donations. they're just geeky enthusiasts like the rest of us, in it for the fun.
i think OP's problem is likely related (as others have mentioned) to poorly coded apps rather than rom/kernel.
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hahahahaha
you really don't know who faux is