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[LAG FIX/GPS] Can someone study this for us?

According to this link, the upcoming Epic 4G has an I/O benchmark that is much higher than Vibrant (and therefore the similarly handicapped Captivate and international and Bell Galaxy S i9000). I started wondering whether this is due to actual hardware differences, or if there have been tweaks incorporated into the firmware that are helping. Then I found an Epic 4G system dump here. I haven't personally downloaded the dump from that link, because even if I did, I wouldn't know how to find anything. Could someone with more ability study this dump and possibly learn something useful for us?
I have also heard reports that Epic 4G has a GPS that works well. This is less of an issue for me personally, as I am on JH2, and find my GPS adequate for the occassional use I have put it through. This is another area that might be worth looking at.
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alternate Epic 4G dump download location

Interesting to say the least. Wonder if they dumped RFS or if they just figured out how to optimize it. The hardware differences between the devices shouldn't be significant enough to show that big of an I/O difference.
Who knows, maybe this indicates that Samsung has an idea what's going on with the performance issues and will eventually filter it down to the SGSs variants

Zilch25 said:
Interesting to say the least. Wonder if they dumped RFS or if they just figured out how to optimize it. The hardware differences between the devices shouldn't be significant enough to show that big of an I/O difference.
Who knows, maybe this indicates that Samsung has an idea what's going on with the performance issues and will eventually filter it down to the SGSs variants
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QFT .................

I am going to go ahead and download the system dump zip file for archiving purposes. I'll probably put it up at an alternate download location, once I have it.

I'm not 100% sure on this but I think the Epic's total internal memory is NAND (1GB) unlike the other phones that use an internal SD card. Much different memory transfer speeds.
Thats why the one lag fix works so well, it copies data/data to the internal NAND.

I am already running the gps fix from the dump(haven't tested it yet). There is no lag fix as far as I can tell. The epic gets 850+ in quadrant. If it had a lag fix it would get a lot higher score.

I believe derek4484 is right on the 1gig of NAND. I just checked it out on a review site.
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Yeah doublechecked derek too... it appears it comes with 1GB ROM only, all other storage is via microSD.
False alarm =P Samsung didn't fix or optimize anything, they just used a cheaper, more shortsighted method to avoid having to give up their precious RFS

Those test results are questionable. You can click on the link under the graph and compare other phones. They have Droid X edging out SGS in linpack: SGS- high 7's; X- low 8's.
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tiger4j said:
Those test results are questionable. You can click on the link under the graph and compare other phones. They have Droid X edging out SGS in linpack: SGS- high 7's; X- low 8's.
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I dont think they are right either. If the phone had that fast of a file system it would kill in quadrant. The epic has been reported to only get 850+ in quadrant.

Unless you're actually running an epic, the GPS fixes out there only dump the GPS files, so it wouldn't do anything to indicate the speed of the actual Epic in terms of file system performance =P

why would they let sprint have the nicest version of the galaxy s ugh -___-

Zilch25 said:
Unless you're actually running an epic, the GPS fixes out there only dump the GPS files, so it wouldn't do anything to indicate the speed of the actual Epic in terms of file system performance =P
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Two different issues regarding GPS locking and file system I/O performance

rajendra82 said:
Two different issues regarding GPS locking and file system I/O performance
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I know, I was commenting on sheps post =P He seems to be saying that using the gps fix from the epic would alter file system performance.

No I am saying people with epics have tested them with quadrant and are getting 850+. I cant see it getting so high scores from laptopmag.com under the file sytem benchmarks but only get 850+ in quadrant. laptopmag.com says the droid x file system benchmarks the same but it gets over 1200 in quadrant with slower cpu and gpu.

shep211 said:
No I am saying people with epics have tested them with quadrant and are getting 850+. I cant see it getting so high scores from laptopmag.com under the file sytem benchmarks but only get 850+ in quadrant. laptopmag.com says the droid x file system benchmarks the same but it gets over 1200 in quadrant with slower cpu and gpu.
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Ah okay Thanks for the clarification. The posts were a little confusing as to what you were saying.

shep211 said:
No I am saying people with epics have tested them with quadrant and are getting 850+. I cant see it getting so high scores from laptopmag.com under the file sytem benchmarks but only get 850+ in quadrant. laptopmag.com says the droid x file system benchmarks the same but it gets over 1200 in quadrant with slower cpu and gpu.
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FYI, Quadrant scores MEAN JACK

andy2na said:
FYI, Quadrant scores MEAN JACK
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Unless youre comparing the same phone. Especially when one with lag vs one without it get the same score. Even though quadrant isn't the best thing to use you can still use it to show an improvement after a fix or a mod from the base number. So his question was why do the phones get the exact same score but one has lag.
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Clienterror said:
Unless youre comparing the same phone. Especially when one with lag vs one without it get the same score. Even though quadrant isn't the best thing to use you can still use it to show an improvement after a fix or a mod from the base number. So his question was why do the phones get the exact same score but one has lag.
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Quadrant only tests throughput bandwidth not latency, etc. The internal NAND may be just as fast in terms of MB/s but it could have lower latency or other charecterists that Quadrant does not test.

Best Way to Improve Performance

So I am wondering what others opinions are of the roms and kernels available for the SF. Doesn't seem to be much of an improvement on Quadrant scores utilizing another rom or even stupidfast kernels.
Are we just kind of screwed a bit until 2.2? Is there a kernel that is overclocked?
TIA.

Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary. The phone performs well on 2.1 - keep reading the forum and you'll get there.

In my opinion the biggest performance increases ive seen werent in any benchmarks but in dj05. it runs amazing. If u havent tried it i dont know whether you should or not. With the impending froyo release no one knows if they are actually going to release DJ05 or not. I think they should release it and then put froyo on top of that foundation if at all possible
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What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath

jfigura said:
What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath
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I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.

Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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Where did you get the dj05 update?
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Ive only tried voodoo/lagfix
It made a significant difference on my phone. I reverted and restored all the factory stuff in anticipation of JD05 because I want to get it OTA when it drops.
I tried to get the leaked one in IRC but people just kept calling me n00b so I gave up.
I am hopeful that it will solve all my woes and usher in a new era of speed only previously dreamt about

Powell730 said:
Where did you get the dj05 update?
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its been discussed dozens of times where and how to get dj05

joe3681 said:
I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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@Joe: same setup here (DJ05 deo, Stock Kernel and Rom, Frozen bloat in Titanium) without SetCPU. It's FAST. My GF and both my sons have EVOs running 2.2 and my Fascinate is just as fast (or faster)
@ksizzle: I agree, it's hard to quantify exactly what is so good about it. I think it's not what's there, but what's NOT there (lag) I think there are going to be plenty of happy n00bs when the OTA hits. This phone will be a screamer right out of the box!

NOsquid said:
Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary.
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Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% -- that's not a typo -- faster, which directly impacts most apps.
And, 2.2's browser is also significantly faster than 2.1's -- and iOS4's, for that matter.
I like my Fascinate, and yes, I would consider it fast (especially running DJ05 with Geeknik's kernels) but like many others, I too see slowdowns sometimes that just shouldn't happen with the phone's hardware. Froyo isn't a magic pill, per se, but it should significantly reduce or eliminate those slowdowns (as it did on my old Droid 1, despite it's far-slower processor).
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/and...r-vs-android-15-cupcake-speed-taste-49305763/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demolishes-ios4-in-javascript-benchmarks.ars

Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% in benchmarks -- that's not a typo -- faster, which do not directly impact most apps.
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Fixed that for ya. Don't let marketing hype get the best of ya.

Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

imnuts said:
Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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This is because JIT was designed specifically around a Snapdragon processor.

Desire performance hack

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/
Would this work on our phone? It greatly increases performance, and someone is porting it to the nexus one.
heres a link to the script : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419

homewmt said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-hack-for-desire-and-nexus-one-data2ext/
Would this work on our phone? It greatly increases performance, and someone is porting it to the nexus one.
heres a link to the script : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
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I only took a quick look but it seems as they are just using an ext partition on sd card in place of the data partition. That is what we did with Dual Rom. We used system and data partitions of the phone, one for each rom. Then both roms used and ext partition of sd for the data partitions. We did see benchmarks about 25% higher with that method. I hit as high as 617 quad score with a Froyshedyo. Average was around 590-600. But again these are benchmark scores so take them for what they are worth. I ran the rom for an extended period of time and also have gone back and forth and I can't say that I really see a 25% increase in performance that the benchmarks showed.
Then again maybe i read the links wrong and this is completely different lol.

I think this is just creating a buffer for the I/O using a SD partition. It was done a while ago I think on a galaxy phone I believe... I don't know. I mentioned it a long time ago but I think the consensus was that it wouldn't do much for us.

If anyway could give a straight answer on this it would be fantastic. (not being sarcastic towards the other replies. those are greatly appreciated as well)
I'm pretty curious about this though. Does anyone know if this would actually cause a significant increase in noticeable performance for us? And if so would this be possible?

From what I read about it last night it basically only improves the Quadrant scores, and doesn't do anything really noticeable for performance.
Don't take my word for it though, I could be wrong, thats just what I found from the small bit of research I did.

ToastPwnz said:
From what I read about it last night it basically only improves the Quadrant scores, and doesn't do anything really noticeable for performance.
Don't take my word for it though, I could be wrong, thats just what I found from the small bit of research I did.
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Yeah that's pretty much all I can really find too. That it increases quadrant scores. Particularly the I/O score. But i don't have enough knowledge on this stuff to know what exactly that would do to the phone's performance overall.

I recall someone saying that all it really did was "give Quadrant what it wanted", so basically does nothing more then increase your scores.
Sounds pretty useless to me. >.>

I've had this on my Moment for awhile, Samdroid developed this for the Galaxy spica, which is the GSM version of the Moment. SDX ported it to the Moment, and while yes it does give better quadrant scores, it does increase performance. It did help out a lot even more when Samsung and Sprint just abandoned the phone completely. For phones with older and slower hardware, you'll notice a difference. But with phones with Snapdragon or faster, you won't notice it too much.

Best Before Date

my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks

Is the phone actually slower? Or just scoring lower scores?
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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Alcapone263 said:
Benchmarks mean nothing
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That was going to be my next statement.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.

gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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gentledroid17 said:
my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!

thanks for the info fellow xdaers,,,,,

Voelker45 said:
I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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Actually I had the opposite experience. My original phone wouldn't boot with the clemsyn kernel. My digitizer bombed and I received a refurbished unit from repairs. The new unit runs the clemsyn kernel just fine. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw...
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tobnddl said:
There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
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gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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As tob said, those "so verry little script" can makes big differences sometimes
I would like to add my personal toughts, for me, the ROM actually scoring higher and higher and feel a litle bit more freshier each week past within the ROM... so my thoughts would be, the cache partition, the more longer the rom is implemented, the more score you'll get cause the cache slowly become bigger and bigger giving you full power to open something tough!
As for the battery, from my experiences, you can't really judge a battery life while you just flashed a rom, you got to wait until the first week to see if there a big changes between the other ROM you came from ... so my guess would be, those scripts and the longer the ROM is implemented on your phone, the more fast and stable it will get, and you will feel the power slowly coming out again!
My bad if I'm completely wrong, but it is my guess!
Hood luck with your "new" phone

i brought up some old Antutu scores and notice that my ram. cpu integar and floating point scores are extremely low. i have tried multiple kernels but still no change. now i am even more confused......doesn't take much. could it be that my cpu is locked so i can not overclock. it kinda feels like its only utilizing one core.

after weeks of exhaustive searching i finally found a fix that worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
pdsfix.zip
now my antutu scores are back up to around 7000. less lag in app drawer and opening /closing certain app. its back to silky smooth yeehaw.

The Best Kernel

Here is the best kernel for stock based x10 roms.
n5-1 http://www.mediafire.com/?z8voe760ok24doy
ALL THANKS TO THJAP
You don't know what you've been missing! This is for locked bootloaders so flash it with xrecovery. For unlocked bootloaders flash baseband .71 with flashtool first which also gives you the stock kernel. Then you can flash this kernel through recovery.
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Features?

Farik335 said:
Features?
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Im not even sure whats different about this one over others. All I know is its way better than any other I've tryed.
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There is no such thing as a "Best kernel"! it grealty depends on what rom you're using, which settings you apply, ram, number of apps, cpu frequencies, governors and i/o scheduler. It also greatly differs per phone!!!!!

This one doesnt work on jaf rom!
It makes my phone to stuck at bootscreen!
And after flashing back to dooms kernel,everything is lagging,so i had to restore a backup!really a great kernel!

After flashing this My phone speed is like flashing the new Adreno ICS Driver its really slow

OK OK OK
I know benchmarks don't mean anything to you guys.
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JeffreyPiket said:
Read this and weep!!!!!
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Man. I thought that would spark a reaction.
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tonyreimer said:
OK OK OK
I know benchmarks don't mean anything to you guys.
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Read it and weep!!!!!
Dani897 said:
benchmarks are basically useless to the end user. fun to compare but dont think about it too much. a benchmark like quadrant can show a low score based on one area of poor performance but there is no guarantee that that will cause a bottleneck for data. it can also generate a high score based on one area and there is no proof that it is benificial. for instance we use voodoo lagfix that increases filesystem io according to the method quadrant usses to measure it by a fairly significant amount. it has never been proven to reduce hesitation of the phone outside of perception of the user, it is a good mod and i dont knock it im just trying to be objective. the thing is that data goes throught many componants and is held in ram and cached on the cpu, as long as the useage is light the file system performance is barely an issue because there are several systems that act as buffers, only when processing long sets of data uninterupted will the certain speeds become a bottleneck.
for a good analogy it is like drinking through a straw vs drinking through a hose vs drinking through a 1ft diameter pipe. the straw may slow the speed you can drink while the hose will not, but the pipe can supply much more water yet it is of no benifit to the person drinking because he can only drink so fast.
add cacheing into the analogy and it is like filling a glass through a straw a pipe and a hose. the glass can supply the person drinking as fast as they need it, but only holds so much liquid, it is enough in for on person but if several people want to drink (multi tasking or heavy usage) the staw will be a bottle neck, the hose will not and the pipe though overkill may make things marginally faster. now if there is alot of caheing it may be more like filling buckets and then the pipe may help but only when there is an enormous amount of data being used and in that case it needs to be processed just as fast, this is when the cpu can become a bottle neck.
it is very difficult to write a benchmark that can take this into account so it is hard to tell the usefullness of the data the benchmark gives you without reading the results of the individual tests it performs and making judgment calls.
we can increase our benchmark scores for filesystem by changing the filesystem to ext4, and even better by going with nilfs or nilfs2. we can increase sequencial reads by increasing readahead but that reduces random performance and waists resources. it all becomes a big balancing act and the end results can vary.
there are also ways to change the ram timing, the dalvik cache heap size, alter the ram disks, we can make the rom smaller and remove stock apps that are not needed, turn off background services that use resources, change polling frequencies to save resources, change governors to ramp up faster, alter and compile drivers for more efficient use of hardware, and a long list of other things. some work extremely well, some don't. some will make the phone snappier and have no effect on benchmarks, some will greatly increase benchmarks and not the feel of the phone.
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:highfive:

Check out the 2d and 3d on the bottom of the top screen shot. I challenge you to get that good on both of them with any other kernel on our old x10.
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tonyreimer said:
Check out the 2d and 3d on the bottom of the top screen shot. I challenge you to get that good on both of them with any other kernel on our old x10.
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No Comment... don't feel offended.. but
Did you read anything from the text Jeffrey posted?
You, well not you, but any good Dev can tweak a kernel and rom, to be good in Benchmarks.. while the general User Experience just plain sucks..
And to be honest, almost every ICS Rom with a somewhat decent optimized Kernel, has more 2D and 3D points than your screenshot.. i don't even need to post proof. it's a fact, even with the Xperia X10.
And there is no such thing as a best kernel...
Depending on the user, every Kernel has it dis-/advantages..
And thats why i think it's good for your ROM to support multiple Kernels, a thing many dev's are still missing, because when you have multiple Kernels, every user can use the Kernel best suited for his needs.

Tekkpriest said:
No Comment... don't feel offended.. but
Did you read anything from the text Jeffrey posted?
You, well not you, but any good Dev can tweak a kernel and rom, to be good in Benchmarks.. while the general User Experience just plain sucks..
And to be honest, almost every ICS Rom with a somewhat decent optimized Kernel, has more 2D and 3D points than your screenshot.. i don't even need to post proof. it's a fact, even with the Xperia X10.
And there is no such thing as a best kernel...
Depending on the user, every Kernel has it dis-/advantages..
And thats why i think it's good for your ROM to support multiple Kernels, a thing many dev's are still missing, because when you have multiple Kernels, every user can use the Kernel best suited for his needs.
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Ya, I read it. I haven't tryed ics yet cause i use my phone as my internet connection. OK thats fine. I don't really care if not anyone else uses this kernel but as for me its the best one I've ever had. Peace
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:silly: That's all!

etedeni fhall
JeffreyPiket said:
There is no such thing as a "Best kernel"! it grealty depends on what rom you're using, which settings you apply, ram, number of apps, cpu frequencies, governors and i/o scheduler. It also greatly differs per phone!!!!!
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Totally agree with this post