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I'm getting some really, really bad ghosting on my N910C. When pixels on the screen change from black (off), there's a lag of about a 1/3 of a second before they turn on again, which is leading to some horrible looking black smearing.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I've never seen it before on the Note 2 or 3, but have read about it happening on the S4. Might I have a defective panel, or is this just the state of Samsung's amoleds at the moment?
It's how it works, you can't do much about it and it's only noticeable in zero brightness. You will get used to it on some days. You can find the link on my sig regarding the same thing In s4.
Hi,
Can anyone please check with this image and 10% brightness to see if there's any ghosting?
Best regards
So far this has been the best mobile device I have ever owned from Palm, to BlackBerry, Motorola, iPhone, Samsung, Nexus, Asus. This has also been the best OS I have used to date. No lag, no battery drain, no boot loop, and I get a removable battery.
Too many features others lack for the same price with less storage for the same money as the V20.
All that being said there is a problem with this phone that also ocurred with my V10. I keep the screen on at maximum brightness all the time since battery is not an issue with this phone (I have many spare batteries). About 7 months into my V10 I started noticing "ghosting" along the left and right edge of the screen. I use white icons which means I always have a dark wall paper. I could notice a very thin whitish smear along the edges. Its not bleed like you sometimes see on the second screen. What I notice goes away when you turn off the screen a while or you switch to a lighter colored background. Then I started noticing that icons for notifications were beginning to burn into the screen when using a dark background... Very odd because this is almost always an issue with OLED screens and not LCD displays like on the LG phones. Then the screen burn in started occurint on the main screen, typically when a bright image is on the screen for a long time and when switching to a screen image with a dark background the borders of the previous image are still visible on the new image. Once the phone is off for while, again, the retention issue goes away but comes back if the same image is on the screen for more more than 30 seconds or so.
Thankfully This does not affect video playback or video streaming. Its only with digital images, logos, or text.
For those not familiar with this problem its called image retention.
I placed a warranty claim on the V10 and a new phone was sent. I traded in the replacement phone immediatley for the V20. And now only 4 months into ownership the exact same problem is occurring... Grrrreat.
When I called LG about the V10 they had no idea what I was talking about. I pointed out that this issue has been discussed in the forums for the last year.
Are you also seeing this issue?
porscheoscar said:
So far this has been the best mobile device I have ever owned from Palm, to BlackBerry, Motorola, iPhone, Samsung, Nexus, Asus. This has also been the best OS I have used to date. No lag, no battery drain, no boot loop, and I get a removable battery.
Too many features others lack for the same price with less storage for the same money as the V20.
All that being said there is a problem with this phone that also ocurred with my V10. I keep the screen on at maximum brightness all the time since battery is not an issue with this phone (I have many spare batteries). About 7 months into my V10 I started noticing "ghosting" along the left and right edge of the screen. I use white icons which means I always have a dark wall paper. I could notice a very thin whitish smear along the edges. Its not bleed like you sometimes see on the second screen. What I notice goes away when you turn off the screen a while or you switch to a lighter colored background. Then I started noticing that icons for notifications were beginning to burn into the screen when using a dark background... Very odd because this is almost always an issue with OLED screens and not LCD displays like on the LG phones. Then the screen burn in started occurint on the main screen, typically when a bright image is on the screen for a long time and when switching to a screen image with a dark background the borders of the previous image are still visible on the new image. Once the phone is off for while, again, the retention issue goes away but comes back if the same image is on the screen for more more than 30 seconds or so.
Thankfully This does not affect video playback or video streaming. Its only with digital images, logos, or text.
For those not familiar with this problem its called image retention.
I placed a warranty claim on the V10 and a new phone was sent. I traded in the replacement phone immediatley for the V20. And now only 4 months into ownership the exact same problem is occurring... Grrrreat.
When I called LG about the V10 they had no idea what I was talking about. I pointed out that this issue has been discussed in the forums for the last year.
Are you also seeing this issue?
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it will go away its not really screen burn in, lcd's have this issue and its common, turn screen off for 24 hours and let the lcd cool off and the ghosting will go away. The LCD's dont have the same screen burn in that the OLED screen would.. but latent images will occur if your keeping it on non stop and high brightness. IPS at its best.
also try and use the screen burn in app and let it spam the screen with the multi colors overnight, this will help cover the burn in like ghost images.
24 hours? Hmm... I will try 8 hours tops because of obligations I need to be available by phone all the time.
I have had IPS displays before that were on all the time and didnt see this issue before...and I run all my devices into the ground.
My Plasma TV has latency issues, my Samsung AMOLED displays have burn in, Samsung LCDs had vertical banding, this LG IPS display has latency...so which displays are immune from premature (in less than one 12 month) issues?
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24 hours? Hmm... I will try 8 hours tops because of obligations I need to be available by phone all the time.
I have had IPS displays before that were on all the time and didnt see this issue before...and I run all my devices into the ground.
My Plasma TV has latency issues, my Samsung AMOLED displays have burn in, Samsung LCDs had vertical banding, this LG IPS display has latency...so which displays are immune from premature (in less than one 12 month) issues?
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V10 , V20 , G5's displays ( maybe include G6) are quantum dot IPS so they all meet image retention . Other IPS displays never meet this problem
I noticed this issue on my v20. If the phone remains off for a bit the image goes away. It can be annoying but if it doesn't hurt the phone
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The screen on the V20 isn't a regular IPS, it's a "quantum dot IPS" which may be more prone to some degree of image retention due to their form of illumination (I don't know a lot about it but it's a kind of atomic luminesence) which supposedly increases colour accuracy and range while lowering the power requirement for for the backlight.
It's possible this might be the root cause of the 'ghosting' but I'm mostly guessing.
Ironic though if QD displays are prone to ghosting, and LG knowingly equipped thier phone with an always-on second screen with that tech.
Yes. I'm on my 2nd replacement for the same issue. The phone I'm typing on is now having it. The screens last anywhere from 6 to 8 months before breaking down.
Glad to see that this isn't only happening to me, I find it super annoying, I never had this happen before on other devices, and it's an unacceptable occurrence that of course nothing will be done about it, I for one can't wait to get rid of the V20.
same thing started happening to my v20 recently, around 4-5 month old phone. it's an annoyance that should happen to a flagship phone, but it looks like we're SOL...
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Tilted Pixel lines Problem.
I am also facing same problem with my 3 months old LG V20 Phone.
My phone have one more Problem.
I can see pixel lining (in whole screen) even though it is quad hd display. But the problem is that it is not horizontal, It is tilted 10 degree, and there is no vertical lines that I can recognize . And it is annoying to me.
If the screen is equally pixelated then I should have seen both vertical and horizontal lines of pixel equally like you can see in TV LCD Displays.
I encourage anyone whose 12 month warranty is about to expire to file a claim. And not use the phone at maximum brightness unless outdoors. Luckily I had some other issues with the phone like NFC and the speaker being somewhat distorted and the phone was replaced for those issues as well. If you see any deterioration in any other hardware aspect of your V20 you should definitely file a warranty claim.
I plan to keep this warranty replacement for another year as the only phone with the image quality I like is the Sony Experia XZ Premium which doesn't work with Verizon. Believe it or not I compared the V20 to virtually every new OLED flagship anr they all had a dingy yellowy color compared to the V20, including the new iPhone X. The Sony was the only phone that had both the color accuracy like and LCD but the deep color pop of an OLED. Best of both worlds with the only 4K screen and battery life better than my V20
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It is my understanding that the V20 will get image retention, but not actually burn-in. Is this true?
Also, I have searched for solutions to the image retention problem. Most solutions advise the use of apps that cycle through colors or simply leaving the device off for awhile. I used a color cycle app, which helped, but the issue returns. And leaving my device off is, simply put, not an option. I did come across a post about replacing the thermal paste. Any truth to this method?
But I'm wondering, if I go through with taking my phone apart to apply paste, wouldn't it be beneficial to also replace the screen as well? Or am I missing some factor I haven't read about yet?
JynxTheFierce said:
It is my understanding that the V20 will get image retention, but not actually burn-in. Is this true?
Also, I have searched for solutions to the image retention problem. Most solutions advise the use of apps that cycle through colors or simply leaving the device off for awhile. I used a color cycle app, which helped, but the issue returns. And leaving my device off is, simply put, not an option. I did come across a post about replacing the thermal paste. Any truth to this method?
But I'm wondering, if I go through with taking my phone apart to apply paste, wouldn't it be beneficial to also replace the screen as well? Or am I missing some factor I haven't read about yet?
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Once image retention sets in it will return once the screen is on for long enough. I ran those screen burn in apps overnight for months. Made no difference at all. The only option is to completely replace the display if you can get it cheap.
JynxTheFierce said:
It is my understanding that the V20 will get image retention, but not actually burn-in. Is this true?
Also, I have searched for solutions to the image retention problem. Most solutions advise the use of apps that cycle through colors or simply leaving the device off for awhile. I used a color cycle app, which helped, but the issue returns. And leaving my device off is, simply put, not an option. I did come across a post about replacing the thermal paste. Any truth to this method?
But I'm wondering, if I go through with taking my phone apart to apply paste, wouldn't it be beneficial to also replace the screen as well? Or am I missing some factor I haven't read about yet?
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No need to do all that, install Night Screen by paper airplane dev team and set the slider at around 80%(make sure you're on the moon icon). Also let the screen cool off before you do this and set it up. You won't really notice the filter much and all the retention problems will be a thing of the pass.
@porscheoscar - No kidding lol Replacement LCD are not cheap. I'm gonna keep an eye on them cause I want to keep my V20 as long as possible. One of the last phones, that I'm aware of, I can carry an extra battery for. I love switching batteries while my friends with their latest, greatest phones watch their battery percentage like a hawk hehe
@salvichulo - Thanks for the tip ^_^ I installed it & am giving it a workout. I try not to be on my phone a lot, but I'm a gamer ;P Once phones became powerful enough to really game on, I killed my Xbox Live account & game exclusively on my phone. When I get the money I'm gonna look into getting an Android Emulator for my laptop.
A bunch of people are on here saying that they notice this ghosting problem after a few months, and that after that their phone's screen deteriorates rapidly. I just got this phone for Christmas, and I love it, but I noticed this annoying ghosting problem immediately. Should I be worried? I'm a little nervous it's getting worse.
why don't you root your phone? By rooting your phone you can change color setting by using custom kernel it help you with this problem .
VocaloidBoy said:
why don't you root your phone? By rooting your phone you can change color setting by using custom kernel it help you with this problem .
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I don't really know how to root my phone, it seems complicated, and wouldn't it void the warranty?
FasterThanAnarchy said:
A bunch of people are on here saying that they notice this ghosting problem after a few months, and that after that their phone's screen deteriorates rapidly. I just got this phone for Christmas, and I love it, but I noticed this annoying ghosting problem immediately. Should I be worried? I'm a little nervous it's getting worse.
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You can use app Nightly from Play Store, set to 75% and ghosting effect disappear
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I don't really know how to root my phone, it seems complicated, and wouldn't it void the warranty?
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Of course warranty will be void
So.. Just today ive been noticing the remnants of a game or video name being "left" "burnt" (if you will) into the right top to mid side down the ride side of my display.. Any ideas? Has anyone else experianced this? Trying to recreate it but its only doing it very fantly currently.. And barley noticable.. But after i had played my game for a little while earlier i could clearly make out parts of the game remnants on my display..
I get this too but it only shows up on grayish colors and it goes away after about an hour or so. Happens mainly with 2nd screen but it'll do it every now and then on the main one. Brightness seems to affect it's appearance more as well. It shows up more frequently for me when Brightness is @ 90 and up.
same here , i am getting the pixel burn as well. what can i do any suggestion?
I'm getting the same problem, called T-Mobile they're sending me a replacement unit to replace the replacement for the original that was bootlooping.
For all with the problem, I suggest getting LG to repair it since it should be covered under warranty. Also, just thought I'd add that LCD screens don't burn in, like their AMOLED counterparts. I believe you can describe this as ghosting, or just say the pixel is stuck on the same color if a customer service rep asks. I could be wrong, but this is what I've heard for most of my life. Hope that you guys solve your issues and return to a problem free experience!
Guys try a program called Pure Noise 2 and let it work overnight. I never had this issue with my Note 4 but even then I periodically ran the noise program. Let me know if it works!
Residual Image
I have this issue as well. From Google sleuthing I've discovered it is referred to as "Residual Image" and it is not a "burn in". It was said that the lcd tech used by LG has this "characteristic". It does self correct. And, most definitely appears most often with gray backgrounds. After seeing both of my parents s7 Edges AMOLED screen burn in issues, I feel we have the better tech comparatively. yay?
Screen Retention\Ghosting
Same problem.
Is covered under warranty?
Did anyone solved this?
Some screens - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72790659&postcount=5
gediv2 said:
I have this issue as well. From Google sleuthing I've discovered it is referred to as "Residual Image" and it is not a "burn in". It was said that the lcd tech used by LG has this "characteristic". It does self correct. And, most definitely appears most often with gray backgrounds. After seeing both of my parents s7 Edges AMOLED screen burn in issues, I feel we have the better tech comparatively. yay?
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This is pretty much the conclusion I've come to after researching for awhile
I have a 5 months old G5 plus and I frequently notice that the screen starts flickering whenever the phone is in low-medium brightness.
It gets fixed if I increase the brightness but again after sometime, as the brightness changes with lighting conditions, same issue occurs again.
Anyone else noticing same problem? I'm guessing this is a common problem with Moto G5 Plus
Thanks
arun6106 said:
I have a 5 months old G5 plus and I frequently notice that the screen starts flickering whenever the phone is in low-medium brightness.
It gets fixed if I increase the brightness but again after sometime, as the brightness changes with lighting conditions, same issue occurs again.
Anyone else noticing same problem? I'm guessing this is a common problem with Moto G5 Plus
Thanks
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I didn't exprence any such problems. It seems your screen is not working properly, take a replacement by going to Motorola service centre as it was only 5 months older.
AFAIK the display does use pulse-width modulation to dim the screen (quickly switching it off and on), but at such high frequencies that it shouldn't be visible at all. Even using a custom kernel to lower the brightness to nearly zero I can't spot any flickering. As riyan said it's likely malfunctioning.
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Yes this is a problem with many G5+, for me it mostly happens when I use my phone during charging (which is a very bad practice). I face the issue once in a month or so.
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If the device is having warranty, then give it to service centre as they will replace a screen at free of cost, before the warranty get expired and screen get screwed, I suggest you to do a screen replacement under warranty. If warranty is expired then wait until the screen just get screwed and buy a new screen or buy a new device.
Yesterday i noticed this, it's a very subtle flick but it does happen..
So, I am 1 unlucky in 1000 who has a tianma lcd panel and facing screen ghosting since one month after buying the Note 7. Is there any software fix for this? I heard Redmi note 4x has similar issue. It doesn't affect performence but unpleasing to the eyes. I am not looking forward to replace the lcd as the phone us still brand new. It is imported, so there’s no way to return it. Thanks in advance.
Same thing is happening to me, sadly... Don't think there's a way to solve this through software, as it's a hardware issue
Bought Redmi Note 7S (Lavander) Onyx Black 4GB/64GB Yesterday , Faced Touch Ghosting.
Edit : Requested For Replacement * From Flipkart.
how to check display if Tianna?
JR Bautista said:
how to check display if Tianna?
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Go to phone info/about, Press kernel info several time, select option 1
Sithhy™ said:
Same thing is happening to me, sadly... Don't think there's a way to solve this through software, as it's a hardware issue
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Actually, I did a little goof. Turns out I have a BOE panel instead of Tianma which is good, but even on that panel, I still get some ghosting... so I can't imagine how bad it must be for the worst panels Guess that's what you get when you cheap out on a phone
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Actually, I did a little goof. Turns out I have a BOE panel instead of Tianma which is good, but even on that panel, I still get some ghosting... so I can't imagine how bad it must be for the worst panels Guess that's what you get when you cheap out on a phone
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what is better panel?
Sithhy™ said:
Actually, I did a little goof. Turns out I have a BOE panel instead of Tianma which is good, but even on that panel, I still get some ghosting... so I can't imagine how bad it must be for the worst panels Guess that's what you get when you cheap out on a phone
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Why not get a replacement? They would've replaced/fix it anyways
Adromedemon said:
Why not get a replacement? They would've replaced/fix it anyways
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Wouldn't I need to pay for the replacement? Or if covered under warranty as it's a manufacturing issue?
So basicly even if you replace the phone under warranty, you will get the same panel and the ghost screen will be there again after some use?
you can use this tips to modify the display color a little, to minimize the ghosting effect.
I have tianma with pretty nasty retention, and modifying the display kcal does the job.
**You need use custom kernel with kernel manager or simply a LOS-based ROM to apply this mod.
I have tianma, everything just looked fine, this is only "things" , not she or he , so for me just use it
Fix for now
I thought I was the only one. Bought this device from China and started having this issue after around 4 months.
The problem does not occur with pitch black wallpaper.
I did some research and found this app (Ghost screen).
It's not in play store.
https://apkhome.net/ghostscreen-1-0-1-4/
I do not face the problem anymore.
Try it. And let us know.
ahmedmohammadshams said:
I thought I was the only one. Bought this device from China and started having this issue after around 4 months.
The problem does not occur with pitch black wallpaper.
I did some research and found this app (Ghost screen).
It's not in play store.
https://apkhome.net/ghostscreen-1-0-1-4/
I do not face the problem anymore.
Try it. And let us know.
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Thanks brother.
vexa said:
you can use this tips to modify the display color a little, to minimize the ghosting effect.
I have tianma with pretty nasty retention, and modifying the display kcal does the job.
**You need use custom kernel with kernel manager or simply a LOS-based ROM to apply this mod.
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Does the retention goes away completely. ? It mainly visible on grey colors
vexa said:
you can use this tips to modify the display color a little, to minimize the ghosting effect.
I have tianma with pretty nasty retention, and modifying the display kcal does the job.
**You need use custom kernel with kernel manager or simply a LOS-based ROM to apply this mod.
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Image retention is gone when you do this. Its a must to do this if you are facing the issue.
Pls what Los ROM in particular
Redmi Note 7
Image retention
Solution in Pixel Experience Rom
I found a workaround in the pixel experience rom without any apps .
Go to Settings > Display > Live display > Colour Calibration > and set all 3 values to 92.
Weird. I have a Tianma display, yet I am not experiencing any noticeable ghosting. Maybe your screen is faulty.
ahmedmohammadshams said:
I thought I was the only one. Bought this device from China and started having this issue after around 4 months.
The problem does not occur with pitch black wallpaper.
I did some research and found this app (Ghost screen).
It's not in play store.
https://apkhome.net/ghostscreen-1-0-1-4/
I do not face the problem anymore.
Try it. And let us know.
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Solution not working for me.