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Hard to believe I've been using my Athena for almost 2 1/2 years straight now. Its had a few drops but none recently. Lately I've been thinking that the color white on the screen has a slight pink shade to it. Anyone else notice this? White looks white everywhere else so I don't think its my eyes!
I take it from the 40 thread views but no replies that nobody else has seen this on their Athena. Happy to see this isn't a common issue.
I have this problem with my Note 3 that after using it for some time the screen resolution gets, well, fuzzy. That's the best way I can explain it. I know that it uses the Pentile display, but I read that I shouldn't be able to tell the difference, especially when zoomed all the way out. A restart will fix the issues, but it gets so fuzzy, especially on text, that it strains my eyes.
Also, does anyone know how I can tell Samsung about this issue and other issues? Because I also have REALLY bad issues with sound skipping, especially when receiving a notification.
Hi all,
Looked at my nice shiny new phone on the desk this morning in direct sunlight with the screen off and was shocked to see a huge ripple through the display.
I did some googling and it looks just like this on the Edge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61422936&postcount=29
Seems they all have this minor defect. It's only noticeable under direct sunlight or a very bright light but I'm not too happy about it given the price of this device
Anyone else have the same thing?
Not that crazy, but yes we all have that.
yes normal. Even worse if if you ever use your screen in direct sunlight, and in full brightness, go look at a white background and you'll see patches of grey. That 'issue' was on the first S6 edge as well.
Dear Friends,
In peripheral vision, I can see a the 6p screen flickering slightly. Mostly only noticeable on bright white and green screens on full brightness (without auto brightness adjustment)
Can you please do me a solid one and check it out on your device?
1. Turn Off brightness adjustment in Display settings
2. Set phone to full brightness
3. Load a completely white background (chrome browser starting page or any screen testing tool)
4. Hold the phone centrally close to your face and look at another object in the room while viewing the phone in your peripheral vision
5. Look back and forth at the object in the room and at the screen to see if you notice a slight flickering or restlessness in the screen
The flickering is very faint and hard to notice in peripheral vision but it is definitely there. I tired the same with an iphone 6plus and the iphone screen (my brothers Iphone, I'd never buy none) definitely has no flicker at all. It's very steady.
The screen is also not as bright as the iphone 6+ but I think that is well known.
I'd like to know if it is standard with all nexus 6p's and if it bothers you at all.... maybe I am just obsessing or maybe not and I need to RMA the device which is a huge pain in the ass.
Thanks!
Thomas
I do not have this issue at all. There are two possibilities, there is a defect with your device OR you are sensitive to the refreshing of the display. However, most modern displays have a refresh rate of 60Hz or higher (I assume the Nexus 6P and iPhone 6 are 60Hz, but I cannot find that info) so it's odd you haven't experienced this with other devices.
My best advice is for you to get your hands on a different Nexus 6P to see if you have the same problem. If you can't do that, I would suggest you try to see if you notice it in any other displays. Maybe go to a store and try it with a Samsung Galaxy S6/Note 5 as those have a similar AMOLED display, whereas the iPhone is LCD.
Thanks for your quick feedback. I am really surprised that noone has noticed this. I am looking at the device straight I don't notice it either it is only in peripheral vision that I can see it but even then it is very hard to catch. I think that indeed it must have something to do with the refresh rate of the screen.
Maybe other people can give it a try ? I have a gut feeling that it is an "issue" in all Nexus 6P devices but that most people don't notice it because it takes a very malicious mind to see it. Maybe it's because the device is brand new and the screen needs some time to "break in" or "adjust" ?
I just want to make sure that I don't have a defective device.
Thanks everyone
Maybe It's related to http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/screen-flicker-pwm-question-t3228826 ??
exxi said:
Maybe It's related to http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/screen-flicker-pwm-question-t3228826 ??
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I have heard of that before, but you're seeing the issue on super high brightness. Perhaps try it on a lower brightness to see if it worsens.
PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) is used for making the display darker. For example, say that a phone has a 60Hz refresh rate, meaning all of the pixels update 60 times each second. To make the display dimmer, the pixels are on for a shorter period of time in between each refresh. For maximum brightness, the pixels are on for the entire time between each refresh. Thus, when the display is dimmer, some might notice flickering as the pixels turn on and off.
Billy, again, thanks for your response. I will give it a try.
The best way I can describe it is that the effect is extremely subtle; so much, that I don't notice it looking directly at the screen but it translates into a sort of "nervousness" of the screen in general because you are left with the feeling that the screen is constantly moving and not really 100% steady. I am not sure if it is something I can/will get used to over time but I am willing to give it a try for a few days.
I am also almost certain that I don't have a hypersensitivity of some sorts but rather that all Nexus 6P phones have this issue just that most of the people don't really notice it.
I'd love to hear from others about if they see it
It's normal, it's caused by PWM. I don't notice it much on my 6P,my Note 4 had it much worse. Some people are more aware of it than others and seem more succepatble to seeing it.
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Batfink33 said:
It's normal, it's caused by PWM. I don't notice it much on my 6P,my Note 4 had it much worse. Some people are more aware of it than others and seem more succepatble to seeing it.
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Thanks nice to hear that it is "normal" i was worried i had a defective unit
So you are saying if you really pay attention to it, you WILL notice some of it for ANY person, right?
I have a Galaxy S6 and I have not noticed it there. Does that mean that the S6 is not using PWM ?
Thanks
exxi said:
Thanks nice to hear that it is "normal" i was worried i had a defective unit
So you are saying if you really pay attention to it, you WILL notice some of it for ANY person, right?
I have a Galaxy S6 and I have not noticed it there. Does that mean that the S6 is not using PWM ?
Thanks
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I think the S6 uses it also but some phones seem worse than others. As I said, I can see my 6P a little but my Note 4 was worse, I could see the flicker all the time.
I just checked my S6 for the issue (side by side with the 6P) and I can say with confidence that the S6 does not have the issue AT ALL. The screen does not flicker in peripheral vision and as a result appears steadier and calmer in general.
If i hold a video camera over each screen I can see scan-lines moving diagonally upward in regular intervals/spacing which both phones, however the lines are stronger and more visible with the 6P Screen. Which in my humble option explain why I am noticing this effect. I am just not sure if something like that warrants the effort of returning or swapping out my 6P
It doesn't really bother me but knowing that maybe other 6P devices have it less makes me think because I shelled out 699€ for it....
What would you do?
exxi said:
I just checked my S6 for the issue (side by side with the 6P) and I can say with confidence that the S6 does not have the issue AT ALL. The screen does not flicker in peripheral vision and as a result appears steadier and calmer in general.
If i hold a video camera over each screen I can see scan-lines moving diagonally upward in regular intervals/spacing which both phones, however the lines are stronger and more visible with the 6P Screen. Which in my humble option explain why I am noticing this effect. I am just not sure if something like that warrants the effort of returning or swapping out my 6P
It doesn't really bother me but knowing that maybe other 6P devices have it less makes me think because I shelled out 699€ for it....
What would you do?
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Does it get worse on the 6P when you turn the brightness down? How about on the S6, if you turn the brightness down (which should exemplify the PWM issue) does it have the same effect as the 6P?
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Does it get worse on the 6P when you turn the brightness down? How about on the S6, if you turn the brightness down (which should exemplify the PWM issue) does it have the same effect as the 6P?
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Thanks for asking. When I turn the brightness down on the 6P it gets better; the effect is not noticeable anymore when it's set on 50% brightness. As soon as I have it on 100% I can see it from the corner of my eyes when set on a white background.
The question is really if I can expect it to be different on another 6P or if all the 6P's have this level of subtle "flickering" if I may call it.
I suspect the latter... and from this point of view it doesn't make sense to swap it out. if you are able to notice it ever so slightly on your device then changes are that it is present on all devices and that the 6P just has it more than for example the Samsung S6 because on the sammy I can't notice it at all, even on full or low brightness for that matter.
As you've said , if it were a PWM issue, It would worsen with low brightness, correct? In my case it worsens with high brightness. So what really is it then?
Quick question... Under normal day-to-day usage, you look at your screen out of the corner of your eyes and have the brightness set at 100%?
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Quick question... Under normal day-to-day usage, you look at your screen out of the corner of your eyes and have the brightness set at 100%?
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You're asking the right questions here and the answer is no to both ?
However I hope your can understand my concern because in the beginning nothing is more important than having a flawless device to my very rigid mind.
Also im worries that the screen in general is not calm as compared to other models such as the s6. Basically that since the flicker is present I might still perceive it even when looking straight at the screen.
I decided to order another 6P to be able to compare the 2 and see if the issue persists on the new device. Depending on the outcome I will keep one or return both. The flickering is really evident and IMO unacceptable for a device with this pricetag.
I am not sure if this is the same thing, but see the flicker in the attached video. It's at 5th,10th and 15th seconds. But then I checked it on Galaxy S4 and see it there as well. I don't notice it in any other screen. May be NBA app is causing it.
https://youtu.be/wtAiMt32GfI
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I am not sure if this is the same thing, but see the flicker in the attached video. It's at 5th,10th and 15th seconds. But then I checked it on Galaxy S4 and see it there as well. I don't notice it in any other screen. May be NBA app is causing it.
https://youtu.be/wtAiMt32GfI
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that is indeed odd. I think the app is causing it
I am just surprised that noone else has noticed the flickering as i described above. It is quite evident when you hold the phone in front of your face and look at something in the room. I wish others would give me some feedback on it
exxi said:
I am just surprised that noone else has noticed the flickering as i described above. It is quite evident when you hold the phone in front of your face and look at something in the room. I wish others would give me some feedback on it
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I have been searching for someone, anyone, who has this issue as I do. Everything you said previously, I experience as well. I've had a 6p since November, and the flickering was there from day one. It's easy to notice at >50% brightness on white or greenish screens. Less so on red and blue. It's something I've gotten somewhat used to, but sometimes it really bugs me. Have you had any success with trying things?
I have recorded the screens of the 6p and 5x. The difference and flicker of the 6p is clear.
Nexus 6p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEA41Uoehkg
Nexus 5x: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCMEvUsA0TQ
Hello guys, suddenly I'm having display issues on my k20. I've attached a link to the video, when i pull down the notification bar, look how the blacks are loading a bit late. When i turn off dark mode, i see no issues like this, it's just the beautiful display again. Even i had same issues with my dark wallpaper. Please check, if you've same issues. I'm really concerned about it. Also, this maybe screen flickering but when i increased brightness, the issue didn't disappear, it was still persistent but at lower levels.
Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1--merciSogckieE_p9QRm9WdwtedFAYq/view?usp=drivesdk
That's normal behavior for amoled displays.
1st: If this is the display problem, how can you expect we can see this on a screen capture??
2nd (probably because of the 1st): I can't see anything wrong.
3rd: I have no display issues at all.
GloryIan said:
That's normal behavior for amoled displays.
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Never heard of this.
opica said:
1st: If this is the display problem, how can you expect we can see this on a screen capture??
2nd (probably because of the 1st): I can't see anything wrong.
3rd: I have no display issues at all.
Never heard of this.
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Can't you see that voilet-ish colour instead of black when I'm swiftly moving the notification bar? It's clearly visible in video, you might want to check again.
Nope, watched it at least 5 times, on my PC and my 9T. Can't see anything peculiar.
I can not see anything wrong or violet at all. Am playing this on my computer at 1080 resolution and 0.25 playback speed and there is nothing to see.
If your screen is faulty, we are not able to see it on video you have shared with us of course
DAMN IT! Even i see nothing from my laptop
I think I'm having screen issues, only when its dark mode, else the screen is working absolutely fine!
I need to get to the service center ASAP! :crying:
Edit: Guys can you try doing the same and look if the issue is persistent in your screen too?! It would really be helpful for me.
Kaiwalya said:
DAMN IT! Even i see nothing from my laptop
I think I'm having screen issues, only when its dark mode, else the screen is working absolutely fine!
I need to get to the service center ASAP! :crying:
Edit: Guys can you try doing the same and look if the issue is persistent in your screen too?! It would really be helpful for me.
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It's normal for OLED panels, some are better, some worse. My phone has it too. No need to go to the service center.
I too have it brother. Dark mode has it normal mode doesn't. It can also be noticed if you open youtube and scroll back and forth quickly. The blacks seem to be spilling or streching. I saw that on your video and I don't know if it is normal or not but i too have that and wanted to ask someone about that.
Take a look at this
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...moled-phone-have-this-or-only-the-op3.451965/
i guess this is normal ,im having it too in my past mate 10 pro .
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I too have it brother. Dark mode has it normal mode doesn't. It can also be noticed if you open youtube and scroll back and forth quickly. The blacks seem to be spilling or streching. I saw that on your video and I don't know if it is normal or not but i too have that and wanted to ask someone about that.
Take a look at this
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...moled-phone-have-this-or-only-the-op3.451965/
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People are claiming this to be normal, but after searching a lot i got to know these kind of issues come after 1-2years, not in a week or month. So I'm trying my best to replace my device or get the screen changed. I don't understand why Xiaomi is keeping the colours to pure blacks when they know their displays are facing smearing issues. I hope someone just changes that pure black colour to very dark grey colour, system widely. Some developer tested(on OP7 pro) the battery consumption difference with pure black and dark grey and it turned out that, dark grey consumes only 0.067% more power than dark inky blacks. I'm humbly requesting developers to change the colour, or at least have an option for the same.
My display when there is low light, the brightness is set to low and the image I see on the display is darkish I can see a vertical line at the left side of the display, is this normal or should I return It?
It's normal for Amoled screens (from first day of use). Just search for Amoled black smearing and you'll find a lot of videos and articles. S10 has it, iPhones have it too.
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People are claiming this to be normal, but after searching a lot i got to know these kind of issues come after 1-2years, not in a week or month. So I'm trying my best to replace my device or get the screen changed. I don't understand why Xiaomi is keeping the colours to pure blacks when they know their displays are facing smearing issues. I hope someone just changes that pure black colour to very dark grey colour, system widely. Some developer tested(on OP7 pro) the battery consumption difference with pure black and dark grey and it turned out that, dark grey consumes only 0.067% more power than dark inky blacks. I'm humbly requesting developers to change the colour, or at least have an option for the same.
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That article it's literally from weeks after users got their OP3.
Ikarem said:
My display when there is low light, the brightness is set to low and the image I see on the display is darkish I can see a vertical line at the left side of the display, is this normal or should I return It?
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I have faint vertical lines on the right of the display when the brightness is low which is how I normally use it. I also have black smearing on pitch black to dark color transition. I think thats normal, it doesn't really bother me all that much.
The best way to reproduce this issue is turn off brightness to minimum and turn on reading mode to max. Then you'll see delay of displaying some colors (mostly gray)
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My k20 has this issue and it's annoying that after paying for a flagship killer, we just got a cheap display which is not just low in quality but has these issue in dark mode which i think most of us use. Interestingly when i record this from screen recorder,it doesn't show up much but the same can be seen visually. So, this is definitely an issue that redmi is trying to let go.
Xda_captain said:
My k20 has this issue and it's annoying that after paying for a flagship killer, we just got a cheap display which is not just low in quality but has these issue in dark mode which i think most of us use. Interestingly when i record this from screen recorder,it doesn't show up much but the same can be seen visually. So, this is definitely an issue that redmi is trying to let go.
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As you "record from screen recorder" you do not record from the screen as you may like to think. You capture the video signal BEFORE it gets to the screen. So any imperfections caused by the amoled screen do not show up on a screen capture.
Anyway, this is a normal weakness with all amoled screens that I have seen.
It is soooo annoying when in dark mode at low brightness, I feel like I couldn't stand it anymore. The worst experience of display usage ever.
Maybe with DC dimming update that might happen someday, the issue won't be as intrusive and pronounce as it is right now. But whenn???
UPDATE:
So I found a workaround for this issue with an app. It's called Screen Balance. Basically it adds a filter overlay on your screen (ineffective on notification panel, because android restriction). Set it to either flourescent or flourescent (warm) at 15% strength minimum, and both brightness and contrast at 100%. You won't see perfect black anymore, but very close to that and no smearing effects visible unless you're really trying to.
I've bought Mi 9T Pro and have the same issue (also see it in your video). Did you fixed that?