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Being a big LG fan and owning numerous LG phones over the years, I think I join the community when I say the G5 was a flop. I enjoyed the phone over the last year, but it had many quirks that should not exist for a flagship phone. One of those quirks being screen burn in. I feel it started about the 7 month mark and is only getting worse. What worries me is that the new G6, which I very much looked forward to, has the SAME screen!!!! Isn't burn in just going to be an issue on that phone as well or is there more to burn in that maybe I am aware of such as phone temp, heat dissipation and so on?
LCD shouldn't burn in.
Are you sure you don't have a fault with the display on the G5?
I have read about it in multiple forums. Its possible its a fault in the display, but its not just mine.
srbecker said:
I have read about it in multiple forums. Its possible its a fault in the display, but its not just mine.
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It`s not burn in, it`s image retention
I have the same issue. Hoping it's not same for the G6.
I was have same problem on g3, g4 and now on g5. I change screen (g5) but same problem
Screen is "same" so i think problem will be on g6
I had a Nexus 5 for 2 years and never had image retention.
I deliberately avoid amoled, so the last half a dozen or more phones I've had are LCD (some of which the display will have been made by LG if not the phone) and never had image retention.
Even my Sony TV has an LG panel.
The last good LG phone was G2, others had burn in issue, I'm pretty sure that G6 will have it.
I know that the technical name isn't burn in but ir looks the same and happens to every LG G3,4,5,V10,20 soon or later.
PS: I was a big LG fan due G2 but got disappointed.
I had "always on" turned on, on my g6
can confirm the clock has burnt in
firecrackerjim said:
I had "always on" turned on, on my g6
can confirm the clock has burnt in
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Can you confirm it with photo evidence ?
GrandArcher said:
Can you confirm it with photo evidence ?
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I can confirm the image retension fades after 7 hours of sleep so its all good
My LG G6 has a screen burn in that will not go away. Phone is 2 months old. Only noticeable on a light background. It is of the game Pokemon Go the poke ball at bottom of screen is burnt in. Haven't played the game in a week and burn in remains.
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My LG G6 has a screen burn in that will not go away. Phone is 2 months old. Only noticeable on a light background. It is of the game Pokemon Go the poke ball at bottom of screen is burnt in. Haven't played the game in a week and burn in remains.
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same problem.Only grey background and dark backgrıunds i can see noti bar and navbar
Got mine a week ago. It is used phone. I am facing same problem. Is tbere any solution for it? Only visible on grey screen. Navigation bar and Status bar burn in appears only rest of screen is fine.
So far this has been the best mobile device I have ever owned from Palm, to BlackBerry, Motorola, iPhone, Samsung, Nexus, Asus. This has also been the best OS I have used to date. No lag, no battery drain, no boot loop, and I get a removable battery.
Too many features others lack for the same price with less storage for the same money as the V20.
All that being said there is a problem with this phone that also ocurred with my V10. I keep the screen on at maximum brightness all the time since battery is not an issue with this phone (I have many spare batteries). About 7 months into my V10 I started noticing "ghosting" along the left and right edge of the screen. I use white icons which means I always have a dark wall paper. I could notice a very thin whitish smear along the edges. Its not bleed like you sometimes see on the second screen. What I notice goes away when you turn off the screen a while or you switch to a lighter colored background. Then I started noticing that icons for notifications were beginning to burn into the screen when using a dark background... Very odd because this is almost always an issue with OLED screens and not LCD displays like on the LG phones. Then the screen burn in started occurint on the main screen, typically when a bright image is on the screen for a long time and when switching to a screen image with a dark background the borders of the previous image are still visible on the new image. Once the phone is off for while, again, the retention issue goes away but comes back if the same image is on the screen for more more than 30 seconds or so.
Thankfully This does not affect video playback or video streaming. Its only with digital images, logos, or text.
For those not familiar with this problem its called image retention.
I placed a warranty claim on the V10 and a new phone was sent. I traded in the replacement phone immediatley for the V20. And now only 4 months into ownership the exact same problem is occurring... Grrrreat.
When I called LG about the V10 they had no idea what I was talking about. I pointed out that this issue has been discussed in the forums for the last year.
Are you also seeing this issue?
porscheoscar said:
So far this has been the best mobile device I have ever owned from Palm, to BlackBerry, Motorola, iPhone, Samsung, Nexus, Asus. This has also been the best OS I have used to date. No lag, no battery drain, no boot loop, and I get a removable battery.
Too many features others lack for the same price with less storage for the same money as the V20.
All that being said there is a problem with this phone that also ocurred with my V10. I keep the screen on at maximum brightness all the time since battery is not an issue with this phone (I have many spare batteries). About 7 months into my V10 I started noticing "ghosting" along the left and right edge of the screen. I use white icons which means I always have a dark wall paper. I could notice a very thin whitish smear along the edges. Its not bleed like you sometimes see on the second screen. What I notice goes away when you turn off the screen a while or you switch to a lighter colored background. Then I started noticing that icons for notifications were beginning to burn into the screen when using a dark background... Very odd because this is almost always an issue with OLED screens and not LCD displays like on the LG phones. Then the screen burn in started occurint on the main screen, typically when a bright image is on the screen for a long time and when switching to a screen image with a dark background the borders of the previous image are still visible on the new image. Once the phone is off for while, again, the retention issue goes away but comes back if the same image is on the screen for more more than 30 seconds or so.
Thankfully This does not affect video playback or video streaming. Its only with digital images, logos, or text.
For those not familiar with this problem its called image retention.
I placed a warranty claim on the V10 and a new phone was sent. I traded in the replacement phone immediatley for the V20. And now only 4 months into ownership the exact same problem is occurring... Grrrreat.
When I called LG about the V10 they had no idea what I was talking about. I pointed out that this issue has been discussed in the forums for the last year.
Are you also seeing this issue?
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it will go away its not really screen burn in, lcd's have this issue and its common, turn screen off for 24 hours and let the lcd cool off and the ghosting will go away. The LCD's dont have the same screen burn in that the OLED screen would.. but latent images will occur if your keeping it on non stop and high brightness. IPS at its best.
also try and use the screen burn in app and let it spam the screen with the multi colors overnight, this will help cover the burn in like ghost images.
24 hours? Hmm... I will try 8 hours tops because of obligations I need to be available by phone all the time.
I have had IPS displays before that were on all the time and didnt see this issue before...and I run all my devices into the ground.
My Plasma TV has latency issues, my Samsung AMOLED displays have burn in, Samsung LCDs had vertical banding, this LG IPS display has latency...so which displays are immune from premature (in less than one 12 month) issues?
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24 hours? Hmm... I will try 8 hours tops because of obligations I need to be available by phone all the time.
I have had IPS displays before that were on all the time and didnt see this issue before...and I run all my devices into the ground.
My Plasma TV has latency issues, my Samsung AMOLED displays have burn in, Samsung LCDs had vertical banding, this LG IPS display has latency...so which displays are immune from premature (in less than one 12 month) issues?
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V10 , V20 , G5's displays ( maybe include G6) are quantum dot IPS so they all meet image retention . Other IPS displays never meet this problem
I noticed this issue on my v20. If the phone remains off for a bit the image goes away. It can be annoying but if it doesn't hurt the phone
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The screen on the V20 isn't a regular IPS, it's a "quantum dot IPS" which may be more prone to some degree of image retention due to their form of illumination (I don't know a lot about it but it's a kind of atomic luminesence) which supposedly increases colour accuracy and range while lowering the power requirement for for the backlight.
It's possible this might be the root cause of the 'ghosting' but I'm mostly guessing.
Ironic though if QD displays are prone to ghosting, and LG knowingly equipped thier phone with an always-on second screen with that tech.
Yes. I'm on my 2nd replacement for the same issue. The phone I'm typing on is now having it. The screens last anywhere from 6 to 8 months before breaking down.
Glad to see that this isn't only happening to me, I find it super annoying, I never had this happen before on other devices, and it's an unacceptable occurrence that of course nothing will be done about it, I for one can't wait to get rid of the V20.
same thing started happening to my v20 recently, around 4-5 month old phone. it's an annoyance that should happen to a flagship phone, but it looks like we're SOL...
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Tilted Pixel lines Problem.
I am also facing same problem with my 3 months old LG V20 Phone.
My phone have one more Problem.
I can see pixel lining (in whole screen) even though it is quad hd display. But the problem is that it is not horizontal, It is tilted 10 degree, and there is no vertical lines that I can recognize . And it is annoying to me.
If the screen is equally pixelated then I should have seen both vertical and horizontal lines of pixel equally like you can see in TV LCD Displays.
I encourage anyone whose 12 month warranty is about to expire to file a claim. And not use the phone at maximum brightness unless outdoors. Luckily I had some other issues with the phone like NFC and the speaker being somewhat distorted and the phone was replaced for those issues as well. If you see any deterioration in any other hardware aspect of your V20 you should definitely file a warranty claim.
I plan to keep this warranty replacement for another year as the only phone with the image quality I like is the Sony Experia XZ Premium which doesn't work with Verizon. Believe it or not I compared the V20 to virtually every new OLED flagship anr they all had a dingy yellowy color compared to the V20, including the new iPhone X. The Sony was the only phone that had both the color accuracy like and LCD but the deep color pop of an OLED. Best of both worlds with the only 4K screen and battery life better than my V20
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It is my understanding that the V20 will get image retention, but not actually burn-in. Is this true?
Also, I have searched for solutions to the image retention problem. Most solutions advise the use of apps that cycle through colors or simply leaving the device off for awhile. I used a color cycle app, which helped, but the issue returns. And leaving my device off is, simply put, not an option. I did come across a post about replacing the thermal paste. Any truth to this method?
But I'm wondering, if I go through with taking my phone apart to apply paste, wouldn't it be beneficial to also replace the screen as well? Or am I missing some factor I haven't read about yet?
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It is my understanding that the V20 will get image retention, but not actually burn-in. Is this true?
Also, I have searched for solutions to the image retention problem. Most solutions advise the use of apps that cycle through colors or simply leaving the device off for awhile. I used a color cycle app, which helped, but the issue returns. And leaving my device off is, simply put, not an option. I did come across a post about replacing the thermal paste. Any truth to this method?
But I'm wondering, if I go through with taking my phone apart to apply paste, wouldn't it be beneficial to also replace the screen as well? Or am I missing some factor I haven't read about yet?
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Once image retention sets in it will return once the screen is on for long enough. I ran those screen burn in apps overnight for months. Made no difference at all. The only option is to completely replace the display if you can get it cheap.
JynxTheFierce said:
It is my understanding that the V20 will get image retention, but not actually burn-in. Is this true?
Also, I have searched for solutions to the image retention problem. Most solutions advise the use of apps that cycle through colors or simply leaving the device off for awhile. I used a color cycle app, which helped, but the issue returns. And leaving my device off is, simply put, not an option. I did come across a post about replacing the thermal paste. Any truth to this method?
But I'm wondering, if I go through with taking my phone apart to apply paste, wouldn't it be beneficial to also replace the screen as well? Or am I missing some factor I haven't read about yet?
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No need to do all that, install Night Screen by paper airplane dev team and set the slider at around 80%(make sure you're on the moon icon). Also let the screen cool off before you do this and set it up. You won't really notice the filter much and all the retention problems will be a thing of the pass.
@porscheoscar - No kidding lol Replacement LCD are not cheap. I'm gonna keep an eye on them cause I want to keep my V20 as long as possible. One of the last phones, that I'm aware of, I can carry an extra battery for. I love switching batteries while my friends with their latest, greatest phones watch their battery percentage like a hawk hehe
@salvichulo - Thanks for the tip ^_^ I installed it & am giving it a workout. I try not to be on my phone a lot, but I'm a gamer ;P Once phones became powerful enough to really game on, I killed my Xbox Live account & game exclusively on my phone. When I get the money I'm gonna look into getting an Android Emulator for my laptop.
A bunch of people are on here saying that they notice this ghosting problem after a few months, and that after that their phone's screen deteriorates rapidly. I just got this phone for Christmas, and I love it, but I noticed this annoying ghosting problem immediately. Should I be worried? I'm a little nervous it's getting worse.
why don't you root your phone? By rooting your phone you can change color setting by using custom kernel it help you with this problem .
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why don't you root your phone? By rooting your phone you can change color setting by using custom kernel it help you with this problem .
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I don't really know how to root my phone, it seems complicated, and wouldn't it void the warranty?
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A bunch of people are on here saying that they notice this ghosting problem after a few months, and that after that their phone's screen deteriorates rapidly. I just got this phone for Christmas, and I love it, but I noticed this annoying ghosting problem immediately. Should I be worried? I'm a little nervous it's getting worse.
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You can use app Nightly from Play Store, set to 75% and ghosting effect disappear
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I don't really know how to root my phone, it seems complicated, and wouldn't it void the warranty?
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Of course warranty will be void
Is there anyone here that has used LG V20 for more than 6 months and does not have any screen retention / burn in?
If yes, are you not using maximum brightness or is there any precautions that you have been practicing to avoid it? I am very tempted to get a V20, but the screen retention issue is kind of worrying me.
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Is there anyone here that has used LG V20 for more than 6 months and does not have any screen retention / burn in?
If yes, are you not using maximum brightness or is there any precautions that you have been practicing to avoid it? I am very tempted to get a V20, but the screen retention issue is kind of worrying me.
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I've had my phone since July and I am noticing retention. It's only around the edges though (part of the status bar clock, nav buttons.) You don't really see it unless you're using a fullscreen app with dark colors around the spots. Only the edges of the screen burn really, the navbar buttons are never burned in all the way, just the bottom half and then it fades the further up you go. Overall not much of an issue. I usually stay at 40% brightness, however. I only notice retention when the phone is hot (ie, charging).
I've had mine since February and I don't have any at all yet. It's on auto-brightness at 30% right now. I'm not the kind of person that is on their phone all the time though.
Download sfilter from play store and activate it at 10 % with the filter you like and bye bye screen retention ?
I have had mine since 10/25/16 and have glaucoma so I use it all the time at 80-93% brightness and do not have retention at all. I have the screen off glow from second screen but they all have that and its only when the screen is off in a dark room.
Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store and activate it at 10 % with the filter you like and bye bye screen retention
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Wouldn't Comfort view do the same thing unless it does not get dark enough?
reaverclan said:
I have had mine since 10/25/16 and have glaucoma so I use it all the time at 80-93% brightness and do not have retention at all. I have the screen off glow from second screen but they all have that and its only when the screen is off in a dark room.
Wouldn't Comfort view do the same thing unless it does not get dark enough?
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In the app sfilter keep it in 10 % (to keep filter near to the real color of the screen) and you can uncrease or decrease brightness as you want its confortable don't worry
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I've had my phone since July and I am noticing retention. It's only around the edges though (part of the status bar clock, nav buttons.) You don't really see it unless you're using a fullscreen app with dark colors around the spots. Only the edges of the screen burn really, the navbar buttons are never burned in all the way, just the bottom half and then it fades the further up you go. Overall not much of an issue. I usually stay at 40% brightness, however. I only notice retention when the phone is hot (ie, charging).
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Looks like a typical case of serious burn case since it has only bee 2 months.
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I have had mine since 10/25/16 and have glaucoma so I use it all the time at 80-93% brightness and do not have retention at all. I have the screen off glow from second screen but they all have that and its only when the screen is off in a dark room.
Wouldn't Comfort view do the same thing unless it does not get dark enough?
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Interesting. Did you try to check for screen retention by setting the screen to all white?
Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store and activate it at 10 % with the filter you like and bye bye screen retention
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This means I will have to keep it on like that for the whole day?
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This means I will have to keep it on like that for the whole day?
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As you like you can keep it work all the day without problem at all without battery drain to , i was using it all days in my lg v10 and no image retention with the app working in background .
It's a good solution try it and tell me your feedback.
You can also open it and close it when image retention is gone .
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Interesting. Did you try to check for screen retention by setting the screen to all white?
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I would love to take a pic for you but i'm here atm lol, when this is resolved I will take a pic for you.
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Okay I have a problem That I hope can be fixed. I followed the guide I have a vs955 I did all the steps to the point they said it would take 20 minutes to boot so go to fastboot and flash bootbackup.img so i did that then it rebooted and i got the static thing but it seemed to boot I did not at this point know that if you turn off the screen and cover the prox sensor the screen will come back. so I read that flashing instead boot2.img will fix this I did this and it loads fine but now wants the secure password and everytime it reboots it drops a chance, im at chance 7 now so I have pulled the battery till I get information. I can not get into twrp via the software reset command with hardware buttons it just reboots the phone again. I can use flastboot, that is it. I am aware this issue is due to the data needing formatted in twrp again correct? Should I reflash bootbackup.img and then do the prox trick when at lock screen or what?
Thanks for your time.
EDIT: I forgot I had looked into this before hand and forgot and now feel dumb but I started this on 12a so I can just KDZ with LGup and Uppercut to 12a again right and just try again or stay stock?
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Oh, I thought it was because I was running AOSP! I have this bad!
Aside from some on the secondary display a few months back, I haven't noticed any on my n918. Had it since February this year.
Try lcd & amoled-test on the play store and read the comments for using the app. Amazingly, it did fixed my retention and side ghosting on the color gray.
I have been using the phone in comfort view from day 1 and it's been ok so far!
My V20 has severe screen retention. I am always always on auto brightness or manually low.
I just played a game with a checkered background, went to browse the web and i could still clearly see it. That was just the most noticable. It happens with everything.
Just curious what everyone sets their brightness at?
I have had mine since September 8th 2017. So far I haven't noticed anything yet .............yet. (Knock on wood) ...ehhh. And I use my phone quite heavily. But I keep my screen between 21% and 30% ...(mostly stick to 25%. It works great, as long as I'm at home). (Edit - I forgot to add that I've had Comfort View enabled on it's lowest setting since about a month after I bought it. It helps with eye strain some...not sure about image retention tho).
It's obvious that higher brightness levels cause image retention faster. Try to knock down your brightness a little bit.
This issue isn't isolated to LG devices. I have noticed this on a couple other phones..and even lcd tv's. Our old Olevia tv does it. I notice it as im dragging images and windows around. Faint outlines of things "stick" for awhile. At least it's not like my Samsung S4. That thing has actual BURN-IN. There's no getting rid of that. Retention at least goes away in time.
I've been using the sfilter app on my V20 and two V10s. Opacity at just 5% on black color takes care of the image retention.
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I've been using the sfilter app on my V20 and two V10s. Opacity at just 5% on black color takes care of the image retention.
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I was reading in the play store that sfilter won't work on the V20's navbar even though the setting for it is on. Other things I caught sight of were sfilter randomly force closing multiple times per day causing the screen to quickly become bright (or brightness flickering at random).
I only mention it because there were quite a few of them (reports of issues). Seems it's not been updated since June.
Hi All,
I know that there are some topics regarding to ghosting/screen retention etc. What about now? Is it still safe on the long run for the users, are you experiencing the screen ghosting like on the G4, G5..??
I want to purchase this phone, but on the G2 i had screen issue.. G3 luckily no issue, G4 burn in/ screen retention, G5 burn in/ screen retention... So can someone give me some advice, is this still a problem on this devices?
No burn in so far. But that usually takes a while for it to show only had mine for 3 or 4 months so far
I had the G5 which had serious issues with screen retention, purple spots when screen was hot, etc.
The G6 does not exhibit any of these.
You can buy it without problems
Al3xxxinho said:
I had the G5 which had serious issues with screen retention, purple spots when screen was hot, etc.
The G6 does not exhibit any of these.
You can buy it without problems
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StonerSteve420 said:
No burn in so far. But that usually takes a while for it to show only had mine for 3 or 4 months so far
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Exactly, well it is a nice phone and it is 2-4 years proof..
What the hell are you talking about? I have the G2, G4 and now the G6. I don't have any issues like that.
unfortunately even the g6 has that ! but its not as bad as the g6 ! its not even noticeable you can see it only with white colours in certain backgrounds (grey)
Screen retention
Does anyone have exibit screen retention on the lg g6 or it a issue form the past lg phones
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Does anyone have exibit screen retention on the lg g6 or it a issue form the past lg phones
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It's a common problem for LCDs display, G5 was the worst because display was not perfectly mounted, on G6 there is way less retention
No problems on G6, even after the full day of usage on highest brightness settings. This Quantum Dot display is beautiful btw.
I got the screen retention problem after 2 months of use but it was gone without me doing anything after 10 or 15 days
Hi,
I bought a new G5 Plus. I noticed there is a yellowish tint towards the bottom of the screen. Is this normal?
unyk13 said:
Hi,
I bought a new G5 Plus. I noticed there is a yellowish tint towards the bottom of the screen. Is this normal?
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No, this isn't normal. I also have a slight tint towards the bottom and I tried to get it replaced under 10 days of buying but it was never replaced and I have to live with it now. If yours has a more distinguishable tint then I suggest you go for a replacement
psychopac said:
No, this isn't normal. I also have a slight tint towards the bottom and I tried to get it replaced under 10 days of buying but it was never replaced and I have to live with it now. If yours has a more distinguishable tint then I suggest you go for a replacement
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Thanks for the reply. I had bought it for a friend. Flipkart rejected my replacement request(as expected) after sending a guy to check on it. It's certainly more distinguishable. Didn't you try reaching Motorola service?
Try turning the display setting from vivid to standard, settings/display/colour mode.
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Thanks for the reply. I had bought it for a friend. Flipkart rejected my replacement request(as expected) after sending a guy to check on it. It's certainly more distinguishable. Didn't you try reaching Motorola service?
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I bought it from Flipkart as well and I have the same story as yours but the tint on my phone isn't very strong and is only noticeable when you look at it very carefully or compare it with another LCD screen phone side-by-side.
Also, my screen also used to flicker at a certain level of brightness (Google it, quite a few people have reported it on Moto forum). The technician only disabled hw overlays from developer options and called it a day. SMH
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Try turning the display setting from vivid to standard, settings/display/colour mode.
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Tried it.. no difference..almost half the screen has this yellowish patch.
psychopac said:
I bought it from Flipkart as well and I have the same story as yours but the tint on my phone isn't very strong and is only noticeable when you look at it very carefully or compare it with another LCD screen phone side-by-side.
Also, my screen also used to flicker at a certain level of brightness (Google it, quite a few people have reported it on Moto forum). The technician only disabled hw overlays from developer options and called it a day. SMH
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I have contacted Motorola & escalated the issue with Flipkart. Hoping for the best.
MotoG5 plus yellow screen
While in a TeamViewer secession (from my computer to my Mom's MotoG5+) i noticed her screen change color - like a light brown/yellow hue. with the phone up and down, the hue or overlay covers the entire screen. when turned sideways, it covers 90% of the screen (you can see a distinctive line). with the phone turned sideways the other direction, it covers half of the screen (starting in a little from the left). see the pics.