Jan update improves RAM - Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion

A few months ago I would end up with 600 mb of ram after opening a few apps including settings. Each month has brought improvements. After the January update I now have around 1200 or more free mb after opening and closing apps keeping the phone fast. I use a lot of ram with my widgets and apps so I like this last update

panflute said:
A few months ago I would end up with 600 mb of ram after opening a few apps including settings. Each month has brought improvements. After the January update I now have around 1200 or more free mb after opening and closing apps keeping the phone fast. I use a lot of ram with my widgets and apps so I like this last update
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Does that mean to say that some background apps are being shut down more? As they say, unused ram can be at times wasted ram, so I hope this freeing up of the ram is not at the expense of apps being closed!

cd993 said:
Does that mean to say that some background apps are being shut down more? As they say, unused ram can be at times wasted ram, so I hope this freeing up of the ram is not at the expense of apps being closed!
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Man, I must be huge minority. I never leave apps open. When I'm done I close everything, always.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Man, I must be huge minority. I never leave apps open. When I'm done I close everything, always.
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Right there with ya bruh :good:

Badger50 said:
Right there with ya bruh :good:
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Are we wrong? Lol
Am I using Android wrong all these years?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Are we wrong? Lol
Am I using Android wrong all these years?
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Oh hell no! I love swiping stuff away too! :laugh:

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Man, I must be huge minority. I never leave apps open. When I'm done I close everything, always.
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Badger50 said:
Right there with ya bruh :good:
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For me I generally do too. Back in the day I used to have "long press back to kill" and so my method of returning to home screen was always to kill an app. But I've found recently with some apps, e.g. Di radio music streaming, despite being ignored from battery optimisation, kept getting closed in the background the other day...
Therefore I hope this potential new ram management with Jan update is smarter...

Badger50 said:
Oh hell no! I love swiping stuff away too! :laugh:
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Often, I open a bunch of apps just to swipe them away lol.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Often, I open a bunch of apps just to swipe them away lol.
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Nice! My record is 83 while sitting in an airport! Gotta have something to do while drinking and waiting! ???

Badger50 said:
Nice! My record is 83 while sitting in an airport! Gotta have something to do while drinking and waiting! ???
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Lmao!
I'm not even gonna try to touch that. You win. Lol

cd993 said:
Does that mean to say that some background apps are being shut down more? As they say, unused ram can be at times wasted ram, so I hope this freeing up of the ram is not at the expense of apps being closed!
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It's better ram management. When I open and close settings I would lose 200mb...so it wouldn't free up the ram even though I closed settings. Now the ram is restored after closing settings.
So they have been working on ram management.

panflute said:
It's better ram management. When I open and close settings I would lose 200mb...so it wouldn't free up the ram even though I closed settings. Now the ram is restored after closing settings.
So they have been working on ram management.
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Great stuff, glad to hear! Will look forward to HavocOS being updated

Same for me. Around 900mb left

Badger50 said:
Nice! My record is 83 while sitting in an airport! Gotta have something to do while drinking and waiting! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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I don't even have 83 apps in my app drawer. LOL. I keep it minimal.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I don't even have 83 apps in my app drawer. LOL. I keep it minimal.
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Hyperbole bruh! ???

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Are we wrong? Lol
Am I using Android wrong all these years?
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Actually you are, opened apps stored in RAM does not use any additional cpu/battery resources. On the other hand closing and then reopening apps uses the cpu so it uses more battery.

Mikulec said:
Actually you are, opened apps stored in RAM does not use any additional cpu/battery resources. On the other hand closing and then reopening apps uses the cpu so it uses more battery.
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Yep, I believe that. However, I bet the difference is so minimal it really makes no difference at all.

I don't know what they improved, but I know that I have loosed 2 at 3 hours of SOT.
I was (on December Patch) between 7-8 hours of SOT and now only 5-6.
It's crazy

I swear my phone seems faster since this update

prot- said:
I swear my phone seems faster since this update
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My guess is placebo effect for everyone.
Some people swear the battery life is worse, other it's better, some said the device is faster, other it's slower.

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My Setup: About as minimal as you can get

Cyanogen 5.0.4.1
KspekLite (mainly or the black notification bar)
I deleted every apk possible I knew I would never use or need, and it runs like a champ.
Wallpaper is from the new Coheed and Cambria album art, just incase you were wondering.
I attached the wallpaper as well. Original cover has text, I just removed the text for my wallpaper.
Enjoy!
looks nice but its kinda odd that no music player?
chronzz said:
looks nice but its kinda odd that no music player?
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Maybe he doesn't like music?
/shrug I never listen to stored music as well. Mostly podcasts / NPR and sometimes online radio.
Why remove all those apps though? I don't think there will be any speed gain from freeing up a dozen megs of data...
chronzz said:
looks nice but its kinda odd that no music player?
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the music player on the nexus one is far from usable in my opinion, especially since I was spoiled with the iPhone's music player for so long.
Paul22000 said:
Maybe he doesn't like music?
/shrug I never listen to stored music as well. Mostly podcasts / NPR and sometimes online radio.
Why remove all those apps though? I don't think there will be any speed gain from freeing up a dozen megs of data...
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well...a lot of them would be ones that would just automatically come on and I would end up killing them with a task manager anyways, this way I save the trouble of killing and sorting, etc. so I just have more readily available ram at all times.
i think your N1 has de-evolved into an iphone... i am sooooo sorry...
JHaste said:
i think your N1 has de-evolved into an iphone... i am sooooo sorry...
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lol'd
but yeah pretty boring imo
thisiskyleadams said:
well...a lot of them would be ones that would just automatically come on and I would end up killing them with a task manager anyways, this way I save the trouble of killing and sorting, etc. so I just have more readily available ram at all times.
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What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
rookie1082 said:
What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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Free RAM, duh!
rookie1082 said:
What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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haha, SPEED son.
rookie1082 said:
What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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muncheese said:
Free RAM, duh!
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thisiskyleadams said:
haha, SPEED son.
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Common misconception... your phone, or any computer, shouldn't slow down until it gets past a certain threshold of available memory. So having 150mb or 100mb of free RAM ought not be noticeable, and likely aren't.
uansari1 said:
Common misconception... your phone, or any computer, shouldn't slow down until it gets past a certain threshold of available memory. So having 150mb or 100mb of free RAM ought not be noticeable, and likely aren't.
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Yea, but then I can't say I have alot free RAM.
What happens then?
muncheese said:
Yea, but then I can't say I have alot free RAM.
What happens then?
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HAhaha... Fair enough... the ability to tell everyone you have loads of free RAM might be important to you.
uansari1 said:
HAhaha... Fair enough... the ability to tell everyone you have loads of free RAM might be important to you.
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Yea, you should see some of the looks I get when I wave my phone around in public showing off my RAM.
I would smash my phone against the wall if it looked like that.
xManMythLegend said:
I would smash my phone against the wall if it looked like that.
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Wrong thread?
i used to be a ram nazi like that...and then I learned better. Constantly killing tasks is not needed - and actually slows down the phone - for 2.0+. The platform's designed to have everything open and in a "sleep mode". This allows you to open all your common apps blazingly fast because it doesn't need to be loaded from the beginning.
Ditching my task killer OCD has resulted in my phone being faster than ever. My N1 instantly opens and closes apps like it was racing for its life. I often sit at my desk at work doing but going in and out of apps and admiring the speed and smoothness.
Having more unused ram does not result in more efficient or effective operation. Quite the opposite actually. Linpack and other benchmarks prove it. You can have 200MB free ram after a fresh task killing and score a really low benchmark score and visibly stuttery movement, or not use any task killer, 50MB free, score the highest benchmarks you can, and have the smoothest, quickest experience.
I can't speak for 1.6 and under because I haven't had experience. And the above is just my experience. I still use a task killer, but only for apps gone rogue.
Its ironic that you only have 4 apps on your homescreen, and you choose Market to be one of them. You're not going to download anything anyways. If you want nothing to run in the background, might as well stick to your iphone.
little did you all note, I have 300mb of RAM free, and that's at all times with facebook and twidroid always open 8)
in any case, it doesn't really matter whether you all think its useless to do it or set it up the way i do, because i'm the one who uses the phone and its what appeals to my eyes.
just wanted to share how I like my setup, not see what you guys dislike about it
thisiskyleadams said:
little did you all note, I have 300mb of RAM free, and that's at all times with facebook and twidroid always open 8)
in any case, it doesn't really matter whether you all think its useless to do it or set it up the way i do, because i'm the one who uses the phone and its what appeals to my eyes.
just wanted to share how I like my setup, not see what you guys dislike about it
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LMAO... if you don't want people to comment on your setup, don't post it up for us to see. No one asked you to.
uansari1 said:
LMAO... if you don't want people to comment on your setup, don't post it up for us to see. No one asked you to.
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This is so true..
It was obvious that you would get comments.. Whether they would be nice or not is the question. I for one agree with everyone else, quite idiotic (not to sound harsh) setup you got here.. Well no, its not an idiotic setup, just a bad way to use your android phone for what it is.

[HOW] Do you keep the RAM free?

How do you keep the memory RAM not on the low memory..?
leeoleelo said:
How do you keep the memory RAM not on the low memory..?
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no need on linux
any way you can set background process limit in developer options to 4
samersh72 said:
no need on linux
any way you can set background process limit in developer options to 4
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Thank you! What does this do by the way..?
leeoleelo said:
Thank you! What does this do by the way..?
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it free some ram by limiting some stuffs running in background, but it makes multitasking "worse" not better. maybe some apps will take much time to open
samersh72 said:
it free some ram by limiting some stuffs running in background, but it makes multitasking "worse" not better. maybe some apps will take much time to open
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thank you for explaining.. thank you!
The phone will automatically free up ram when it needs it. Leave task manager alone, it keeps your apps in memory. So for example, if you open Facebook, leave and come back, it will pickup where you left off. Instead of opening the app all over again (using more power).
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[Q] RAM usage high

I just got my galaxy s4 and right out of the box i realized the RAM usage is quite high (around 1.2gb). i've cleared running apps and cleared the memory on the in the ram settings. is this just something i have to deal with or something else?
Its touchwiz. Its like that. Try aosp.
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toxicpaulution said:
Its touchwiz. Its like that. Try aosp.
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Oh that sucks. I would root, but I do like some of Samsung's added features and I don't know if I would lose them or not.
that's what the ram is there for. to be used.
you could consider a debloated and slimmer touchwiz rom from the android development section and pair it with one the great kernels also located here. might get the results you want plus be able to keep touchwiz, if thats your thing.
xxorianna said:
I just got my galaxy s4 and right out of the box i realized the RAM usage is quite high (around 1.2gb). i've cleared running apps and cleared the memory on the in the ram settings. is this just something i have to deal with or something else?
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High RAM usage is a good thing not a bad thing. The whole point to RAM is to keep stuff in it so it doesn't have to be reloaded, which causes lag. What are you trying to accomplish by clearing the memory?
GeorgeP said:
High RAM usage is a good thing not a bad thing. The whole point to RAM is to keep stuff in it so it doesn't have to be reloaded, which causes lag. What are you trying to accomplish by clearing the memory?
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Oh I always thought that if the RAM is full the phone would run slower.
xxorianna said:
Oh I always thought that if the RAM is full the phone would run slower.
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this is not windows. in android, unused/idle ram is wasted ram.
xxorianna said:
Oh that sucks. I would root, but I do like some of Samsung's added features and I don't know if I would lose them or not.
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If you root you won't lose any Samsung features unless you delete them with Titanium Backup. I deleted all crapware on my phone and it is fast as anything with awesome battery life.
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[Q] Anyone else seeing very high RAM usage?

Should I be concerned? So used to closing things out via Task Manager (from S3 & S4) to keep running smooth. I can't get the S5 below 1.34GB usage of 1.81GB available. Seems really high with nothing open or running.........
jcool13 said:
Should I be concerned? So used to closing things out via Task Manager (from S3 & S4) to keep running smooth. I can't get the S5 below 1.34GB usage of 1.81GB available. Seems really high with nothing open or running.........
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Same here
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Free RAM is wasted RAM.
tdrussell said:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Yes. you are right to talking about. Every time Free RAM will become a expandable RAM. Must irresponsible...
More reply if you post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help
Lodaserves said:
More reply if you post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help
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:good::good: i think this are really good area to get any reply or help..
Empty ram uses the same amount of battery as full ram. Might as well have some things loaded into ram for faster access and so other apps calling on these resources don't have to expend your battery while trying to turn things on
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Lodaserves said:
Yes this is true.
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Thanks. Can you see my signature ? Do not remember it..

Question about RAM usage

Hey guys, I hope you're all doing well.
My question is why in my RN7 that hast 4gb of RAM, there is alway at least 1.5GB free? I also noticed it in a friend's phone that have 3GB and with 1 or 2 GB free, I wouln't mind if my phone usage was low, but almost always it has to reload the apps that were opened before the 3rd or 4th most recent. I dont know if I'm making any sense but the RAM usage shouldn't be almost 100%?
Thank you
Is that for what u ask?
That's exactly what I mean, the RAM is free but several apps have to be reloaded after a while.
Edit: I think I found an answer, I suppose is the battery optimizer that closes apps after a while, if anyone knows about this, please confirm.
2Gb free here. On latest RevOS MIUI.
I'm not worried about using 2 of 4gigs, is the contrary, I want to use all the gigs so my apps don't reload too often and are ready to use
Psicovirus said:
I'm not worried about using 2 of 4gigs, is the contrary, I want to use all the gigs so my apps don't reload too often and are ready to use
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Linux don't work like windows.
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/mm/index.html
https://serversuit.com/community/technical-tips/view/how-does-linux-handle-ram.html
Psicovirus said:
I'm not worried about using 2 of 4gigs, is the contrary, I want to use all the gigs so my apps don't reload too often and are ready to use
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Change app battery saver of particular app to no restrictions and lock the app in recents. Maybe it'll not kill the app.
!!!!!!!Root2!!!!!! said:
Change app battery saver of particular app to no restrictions and lock the app in recents. Maybe it'll not kill the app.
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After a bit of usage, this is the answer I was looking for, I was not used to have a task killer built into the phone OS by default, doing what you said did the trick for me, thanks!

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