Cyanogen 5.0.4.1
KspekLite (mainly or the black notification bar)
I deleted every apk possible I knew I would never use or need, and it runs like a champ.
Wallpaper is from the new Coheed and Cambria album art, just incase you were wondering.
I attached the wallpaper as well. Original cover has text, I just removed the text for my wallpaper.
Enjoy!
looks nice but its kinda odd that no music player?
chronzz said:
looks nice but its kinda odd that no music player?
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Maybe he doesn't like music?
/shrug I never listen to stored music as well. Mostly podcasts / NPR and sometimes online radio.
Why remove all those apps though? I don't think there will be any speed gain from freeing up a dozen megs of data...
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looks nice but its kinda odd that no music player?
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the music player on the nexus one is far from usable in my opinion, especially since I was spoiled with the iPhone's music player for so long.
Paul22000 said:
Maybe he doesn't like music?
/shrug I never listen to stored music as well. Mostly podcasts / NPR and sometimes online radio.
Why remove all those apps though? I don't think there will be any speed gain from freeing up a dozen megs of data...
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well...a lot of them would be ones that would just automatically come on and I would end up killing them with a task manager anyways, this way I save the trouble of killing and sorting, etc. so I just have more readily available ram at all times.
i think your N1 has de-evolved into an iphone... i am sooooo sorry...
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i think your N1 has de-evolved into an iphone... i am sooooo sorry...
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lol'd
but yeah pretty boring imo
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well...a lot of them would be ones that would just automatically come on and I would end up killing them with a task manager anyways, this way I save the trouble of killing and sorting, etc. so I just have more readily available ram at all times.
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What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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Free RAM, duh!
rookie1082 said:
What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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haha, SPEED son.
rookie1082 said:
What's the purpose of all this readily available RAM if you're never going to use it?
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Free RAM, duh!
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haha, SPEED son.
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Common misconception... your phone, or any computer, shouldn't slow down until it gets past a certain threshold of available memory. So having 150mb or 100mb of free RAM ought not be noticeable, and likely aren't.
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Common misconception... your phone, or any computer, shouldn't slow down until it gets past a certain threshold of available memory. So having 150mb or 100mb of free RAM ought not be noticeable, and likely aren't.
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Yea, but then I can't say I have alot free RAM.
What happens then?
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Yea, but then I can't say I have alot free RAM.
What happens then?
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HAhaha... Fair enough... the ability to tell everyone you have loads of free RAM might be important to you.
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HAhaha... Fair enough... the ability to tell everyone you have loads of free RAM might be important to you.
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Yea, you should see some of the looks I get when I wave my phone around in public showing off my RAM.
I would smash my phone against the wall if it looked like that.
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I would smash my phone against the wall if it looked like that.
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Wrong thread?
i used to be a ram nazi like that...and then I learned better. Constantly killing tasks is not needed - and actually slows down the phone - for 2.0+. The platform's designed to have everything open and in a "sleep mode". This allows you to open all your common apps blazingly fast because it doesn't need to be loaded from the beginning.
Ditching my task killer OCD has resulted in my phone being faster than ever. My N1 instantly opens and closes apps like it was racing for its life. I often sit at my desk at work doing but going in and out of apps and admiring the speed and smoothness.
Having more unused ram does not result in more efficient or effective operation. Quite the opposite actually. Linpack and other benchmarks prove it. You can have 200MB free ram after a fresh task killing and score a really low benchmark score and visibly stuttery movement, or not use any task killer, 50MB free, score the highest benchmarks you can, and have the smoothest, quickest experience.
I can't speak for 1.6 and under because I haven't had experience. And the above is just my experience. I still use a task killer, but only for apps gone rogue.
Its ironic that you only have 4 apps on your homescreen, and you choose Market to be one of them. You're not going to download anything anyways. If you want nothing to run in the background, might as well stick to your iphone.
little did you all note, I have 300mb of RAM free, and that's at all times with facebook and twidroid always open 8)
in any case, it doesn't really matter whether you all think its useless to do it or set it up the way i do, because i'm the one who uses the phone and its what appeals to my eyes.
just wanted to share how I like my setup, not see what you guys dislike about it
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little did you all note, I have 300mb of RAM free, and that's at all times with facebook and twidroid always open 8)
in any case, it doesn't really matter whether you all think its useless to do it or set it up the way i do, because i'm the one who uses the phone and its what appeals to my eyes.
just wanted to share how I like my setup, not see what you guys dislike about it
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LMAO... if you don't want people to comment on your setup, don't post it up for us to see. No one asked you to.
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LMAO... if you don't want people to comment on your setup, don't post it up for us to see. No one asked you to.
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This is so true..
It was obvious that you would get comments.. Whether they would be nice or not is the question. I for one agree with everyone else, quite idiotic (not to sound harsh) setup you got here.. Well no, its not an idiotic setup, just a bad way to use your android phone for what it is.
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Man I love having everything that could be fun and useful on my G1, so far I am at 149 apps. How many does everyone else have? Also this doesnt hurt the SD card holding all this does it? =/
Anyways last night, some new apps came up like a G1 FTP Server for file transferring. So thats nifty. ConnectBot is good too.
Anyways just wondering, having so many apps, does it slow up the G1 any or can the G1 be like a PPC and handle all this? Open source android is nice but downside is, so many apps that have potential or worth putting on the G1 add up heh.
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Anyways just wondering, having so many apps, does it slow up the G1 any or can the G1 be like a PPC and handle all this? Open source android is nice but downside is, so many apps that have potential or worth putting on the G1 add up heh.
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There is a difference between how many applications you have installed versus how many applications you have running.
I tell people who ask that I have maybe 13k mp3's on my computer and the common response is "omg your computer must be so slow!"
wtf?
Users seem to correlate lots of stuff on device = slow device.
Correlation does not imply causation
Ah while I understand your post, the G1 is a tad different. Afterall the Apps ARE installed to the SD. As you know the G1 itself if "running" too many apps would cause it to lag up. However having alot of apps too I dont know if it slows down the G1 by trying to have it all show up or so. Imagine this. You have EVERYTHING on your Windows Desktop, that has been known to cause slowdowns too, Its not running but the system still maps to it and tracks it so to say.
Plus some apps install and auto run in the background. Since its loading off the SD, depending on the class of your SD it could cause sluggishness I would say.
Not sure what the count is exactly, but I have backups on my sd card, my netbook, and my laptop. Sometimes I download apps, back them up, uninstall and just store them on my comp just incase I might need them someday. Haha
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Users seem to correlate lots of stuff on device = slow device.
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I have ten apps installed.
By the way, while apps that are not running will not cause slowdown perse, some apps start background services or periodic recurring timers (e.g. Loopt, Twidroid) which can cause slowdown.
I have 368 Applications. only problem- HOME SCREEN RELOADS AFTER COMING OUT OF APP
368? WOW You must install everything that sucks too. =p
What do you have thats interesting maybe? =D
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368? WOW You must install everything that sucks too. =p
What do you have thats interesting maybe? =D
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i have a lot of things. All gameloft games(Bought it from xda user gameloft) all ea games(from handloft.com), Snesoid, Gnesoid, Jrioni terminal(for gp2x), Sim Checker Cupcake, Nesoid,Youtube downloader, Steamy window, Spray can, Meridian, Mechanics TOuch, Military Madness, VNC Viewer, Phone MY PC, IM+, Better Keyboard, Blues etc. These are some of the apps i can remember. I dont install apps that suck . They are 368 +. A week ago with aTrackdog they were 368. I use Swapper, SetCPU to run my phone smoothly. They really help. I have windows X, Debian etc. running too. 1200+ songs, 3+ movies
Swapper, what about the warnings about how bad that actually is?
Also Windows X and Debian, tell me how are those and is there a guide somewhere to get info on it and easy to setup?
Military Madness...? WHERE?! I love games like Battle Isle!
SetCPU tell me about it some, Ive been wondering about it but is OCing really worth it on the G1?
Kk I found a xwindows/debian guide.
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=1615
Everything i use is worth using coz i have to use them regularly. About swapper, most SD cards todayhave the power to cover the damage done(most class 6). So its worth. You should have root to enjoy your g1. SETCPU- my g1 is clocked at 528 MHz permanently so i dont experience lag.
Btw as you can tell another point of this thread is to get info on apps. =)
But online, got a link for a good class 6? Ive had issues trying to determine WHICH is a class 6 or what.. Upgraded to a 4GB Sandisk which runs better but I still am not sure its class.
Also Doesnt the setCPU drain your battery more? Any risks on that?
dont worry anout battery it is not much affected
i have about 135 apps
I am very picky about the apps I install on my devices. According to aTrackDog, there are 46 on my G1, but I probably use half of them. Time to do some cleaning
charnsingh_online said:
I have 368 Applications. only problem- HOME SCREEN RELOADS AFTER COMING OUT OF APP
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This makes me feel a little better since I only have 314 lol. My ext3 partition is 2GB with Debian installed. No need to really delete anything
How many others here use SetCPU, whats stable, a solid increase and wont hurt the G1 or battery? Also yea, its nice to compare notes heh. Keep installing new apps all the time.
I WISH however that the market was easier to navagate tho.. Like add a "Apps added since you last checked" type of thing or DATE them. "Apps added on "x" date" cause its a pain to track them since looking last with so much junkware being added and your limited to scrolling. =/
atrackdog is least a VERY helpful tool.. if your G1 doesnt know its installed in the market. Least this app does..
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I WISH however that the market was easier to navagate tho..
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Some people still navigate the Market on their phone? I always use Cyrket (Newest Content category seems close to what you're looking for) and then when I find something of interest search for it directly on the phone.
Oh that website is nice, I have seen it, but doesnt help TOO much for installing it to your G1 Not like you can click on the website and have it install to the G1 like Xbox live lol.
Trying to figure out what's a problem and what's not. Advanced Task Manager....says 18 apps are open. Is that fibbing?
ok so not 18...10.
Voice search, gallery, maps, car home, clock, settings, gmail, voice dialer, weatherbug, mp3 store....the G1 never had that many going at once in memory.
and the phone still zips around im hoping?
it does give very small lag when they are all running, then when i kill them all it speeds up. i actually recorded a video of the whole process.
Mine has 31 currently running?!?! WTF??? Some are running twice like AK Notepad and The Weather Channel? I'm thinking 2.1 is having issues managing applications. I keep hitting my end all widget and it's always like 20+ apps running. So much for the extra ram, things just keep restarting for now reason!
EDIT: After more playing around, it looks like the Back button does not close applications like it does on the G1 and MT3G. Great, better get used to using the Task Manager Widget or nothing will close!!!
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Mine has 31 currently running?!?! WTF??? Some are running twice like AK Notepad and The Weather Channel? I'm thinking 2.1 is having issues managing applications. I keep hitting my end all widget and it's always like 20+ apps running. So much for the extra ram, things just keep restarting for now reason!
EDIT: After more playing around, it looks like the Back button does not close applications like it does on the G1 and MT3G. Great, better get used to using the Task Manager Widget or nothing will close!!!
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Do we *really* need to kill apps though? We have ample memory to cope, right?
Either that or Advanced Task Manager is giving a false report...I don't know which. But yeah the back button doesn't seem to exit the app.
I'm waiting for this video to finish rendering and I'll post it up on Vimeo. It clearly shows the phone lagging, then speeding back up when they are all killed.
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Do we *really* need to kill apps though? We have ample memory to cope, right?
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I don't think they all need to be running at once though, no matter how much memory we have. I don't want it running unless I open it, with the exception of the few that have to run if your using widgets.
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Do we *really* need to kill apps though? We have ample memory to cope, right?
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According to Task Manager before I started launching apps I had 109Mb avail mem. After launching and backing out of a bunch I was down to 49Mb. That was withing 5min. Can you imagine a full day of not ending apps?
I just emailed the developer to rule out a false report with his app and Android 2.1.
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According to Task Manager before I started launching apps I had 109Mb avail mem. After launching and backing out of a bunch I was down to 49Mb. That was withing 5min. Can you imagine a full day of not ending apps?
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Android manages that for you, it utilises the most amount of RAM possible. It'll end apps once it needs more RAM
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Android manages that for you, it utilises the most amount of RAM possible. It'll end apps once it needs more RAM
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I never encountered this with my G1 though. It never ran that many apps at once.
OK video is here:
http://www.vimeo.com/8604778
Video mark 2:48 and go from there.
Some would probably call this "finicky" but I don't expect any lag on a $500 phone. I also understand that not everyone moves as fast as I do.
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OK video is here:
http://www.vimeo.com/8604778
Video mark 2:48 and go from there.
Some would probably call this "finicky" but I don't expect any lag on a $500 phone. I also understand that not everyone moves as fast as I do.
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Like has been said.. Android is managing this for you. Unused RAM is worthless RAM. this is the same issue people tried to ***** about with Windows Vista. The system is keeping the application in memory incase you switch back to it. If you do, you avoid the load times. If you don't keep applications in RAM then switching between them would take forever and pretty much negate the ability to multitask.
THIS IS BY DESIGN.
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Like has been said.. Android is managing this for you. Unused RAM is worthless RAM. this is the same issue people tried to ***** about with Windows Vista. The system is keeping the application in memory incase you switch back to it. If you do, you avoid the load times. If you don't keep applications in RAM then switching between them would take forever and pretty much negate the ability to multitask.
THIS IS BY DESIGN.
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I'd like to think that we could have a civil and professional conversation without jumping in with your panties in a wad. Do you see my post count? Do you tink I was here when people we're complaining about this? Oh that's right we we're born with knowing how Android works that's right.
At any rate....I appreciate your response.
I think he got irritated you were jumping the gun a bit, you went even so far to post a video of it lagging..that kinda seems to lower the credibility of the device for people without that specific knowledge.
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I'd like to think that we could have a civil and professional conversation without jumping in with your panties in a wad. Do you see my post count? Do you tink I was here when people we're complaining about this? Oh that's right we we're born with knowing how Android works that's right.
At any rate....I appreciate your response.
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My apologies for seeming harsh. But, there is another thread on this exact same topic already in which this answer has already been stated :-/
If for some reason it really worries you, just use the Taskiller widget or something.. but, it really isn't anything to worry about. The slight second long pause in your video is simply from Android being notified it is low on memory and killing off a background process to make room for the one you are loading up. You shouldn't see it too often and the fact that it keeps the programs/apps in RAM is part of the reason the phone feels so snappy compared to a G1/MyTouch
hmmm, the only lag I saw in the video was the occasional having to press the touch sensitive buttons one more time?
Correct me if Im wrong?
Thing is: the more you use taskiller the slower it'll get unlike what everybody thinks...
Just leave the apps in the RAM and they'll load from the RAM (= instantly) otherwise they'll load from storage card (=milliseconds of delay)
All I can say from the video is that the Nexus is hugely fast. When you started the camera I thought "alright sit back & relax for 5sec like on most Androids" but this was insane!
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I never encountered this with my G1 though. It never ran that many apps at once.
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"It'll end more apps once it needs more ram".
The G1 had less rom and therefore had to end apps earlier because it needed to free up ram for the Os/new apps.
Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.
I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.
Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.
Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.
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Personally, having used the jailbroken multitasking solutions on previous iPhones I didn't find them that great or graceful. The Palm Pre is still the king of multitasking hands down.
Android is working on it. Gingerbread will bring an improved UI with more flashy animations/graphics. For now, holding down the Home button is an acceptable method.
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I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.
I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(
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I found one or two apps for my old iphone that looked damn close to the pre, and worked pretty damn good on my 3g.
I know 3.0 is going to be a UI revamp, but who knows if the evo will ever get it. ;(
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If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.
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If you haven't already, purchase Powerstrip. It's one of the most useful Android apps ever.
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sidenote, i dunno if i'm just retarded or what, but i installed power strip and i am unable to get the shortcut to work. i have it set to a double tap of the home screen. nothing happens when i do this. what am i missing??
I think you're supposed to double click the home button
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Why couldn't it be more like the Palm Pre? I mean even my jailbroken iphone could pull off some multitasking that looked damn close to the pre.
I think the biggest thing I hear about android is it's got real multitasking (which works and I love), but I don't see why they couldn't make it better, or at least better looking. It's based on linux and there are some pretty snazzy graphics out there for that.
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What's wrong with Android multitasking?
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What's wrong with Android multitasking?
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^ this
I don't get it, OP
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^ this
I don't get it, OP
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neither do i. i would like a explanation what the evo is not doing.
you compare the pre to be the king of multitasking? windows mobile (touch pro2 which is with me daily in addition to my evo) multitasks beautifully and so does android in my experience with android (hero from launch day and win mo since 2002). just the other day i was on a call , was updating some apps and using tapatalk on a forum. i even had lookout scanning the apps as they were installing.... (4G area). phone did not hiccup... stock non rooted. thats multitasking to me...
I use MultiTask Manager, and it's totally configurable and display the following:
- Running Apps
- Recently closed apps
- Fav Apps
Also you can hide apps that you don't want to see, max number of apps, background and much more.
I have the icon on my main screen
Is free.
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I don't get it, OP
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It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.
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It sounds to me like the op is only concerned with how asthetically pleasing multitasking is. The fact that android doesn't have the pretty cards animation that the webos and jailbroken iPhones have means it sucks. That seams silly to me. Wanting nicer animations is fine, but saying that multitasking sucks because of the lack of these animations is silly.
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If that is the case, then the OP doesn't understand the design philosophy behind Android multitasking.
1) All apps are loaded into memory from the get go.
2) Task managers are unnecessary, just pick whatever app you want to switch to, and start it to switch to it. Hence the last 6 used apps menu when holding down the home key.
In a sense, Android multitasking is intended to be superior to any other implementation - there's no need to be even thinking about it. It just does its thing.
I like multitasking on Android way better than the Pre. First off it works without me having to worry about what's open, second I never get an error telling me to close apps even though no cards are open. Third it just works on Android. palms system is nowhere near stable yet, and backgrounder on iPad has closed apps so often that multitasking was bad.
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I as well fail to see a problem with Android's multitasking abilities.
same....OP please elaborate.
I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)
But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.
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I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously. That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
And the problem with the jab at WebOS saying well, you don't get too many cards errors in Android; well wouldn't exist b/c well for 1, the Evo has a 1GHZ processor and 512MB Ram... Compared to my original Pre (non plus) with much slower CPU; that's a no brainer that the Evo would be able to handle the tasks more effectively, (yet the GPU performance on the Pre is better, go figure)
But, it does sound like the OP was referring more to the way it looks... while, I don't care what it looks like... I just want it to work better.
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I agree with the mp3 thing. It's annoying. I think there must be better mp3 players out there.
Try Quickdesk. You won't be disappointed.
Yeah I've experienced that problem with the mp3 player. I've noticed it varies from App to app. The standard music app will stop sometimes, as does Xiialive - but Last.fm app seems to be extremely stable - never had it stop regardless of what I was doing. I don't think there's anything wrong with holding the home button - it works nicely but I am more concerned about how programs function while in the background. As I mentioned it seems to vary from program to program, and the are said to be revamping the standard music program, so I guess we can keep our fingers crossed.
I doubt it will be much work to fix but I agree, they need to step it up a notch in this respect.
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I understand what the OP means... I have BOTH and the Pre DOES BEAT Android in multitasking capabilities.... I'll give u an example
On my Evo, I use Tweetcaster a lot...let's say I need to open up ZumoDrive and share something... I hit home, then open programs then open up ZumoDrive... If I wanna go back to where I was prior (Tweetcaster, looking at a persons profile), I hold the home button...and select Tweetcaster from the recently used apps, and it reopens the app from scratch, forgetting about where I was previously.
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But that isn't a good example because that isn't what should happen with the current paradigm. I've left countless programs and come back to exactly the same spot when I return. Something else is going on there. How many programs are you using in between these two? Are you waiting a bunch of time? Maybe Android closes out programs after a certain period of inactivity.
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That's just 1 example (that I happened to think of right now, but there's others) Another would be, try downloading a mp3 from the web browser and playing it...then switch apps... The song stops (unless u play it from the music player)
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This one confuses me. I can play music with something other than the music player and switch apps without the music stopping no problem.
If I were to offer one easy change to the current UI, it would be to put a little circle or star on the icons next to the programs that are still processing in the recent apps list. That's the only issue I can see. I can't tell which ones on that list are closed and which ones are still open.
I was wondering, now that the bootloader has been cracked, is it possible for WP7 to be installed on the Xperia X10?
**Please no "windows is crap" or "why would you want that?" stuff, I've seen my fair share.**
Who tell you that the bootloader is cracked?
It is just bypassed.
Although I dont know much about wp7,at least I know it is not linux based.
We can only run non stock kernel but noy other computer language things
Cheers,
L
Sent from my rooted FreeXperia X10
Thanks
Oh, that's disappointing. Oh well. Thanks for your help
There is a theme on market makes it like wp7
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Yeah, I've tried them but they just aren't as responsive as a real WP7 handset. 1GHz processor doesn't really mean anything when the operating system hasn't been optimised - look at iOS and how snappy it feels even on older generation devices, then look at current generation android devices like the Xperia and you really notice how much it lags. Oh, how I dream of a day when I don't need Advanced Task Killer....
maxidude44 said:
Oh, how I dream of a day when I don't need Advanced Task Killer....
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You don't need it.
ooidort said:
You don't need it.
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We still need it even in 2.3.3 in some species.
As the ram of our Xperia is very small,sometimes a kill will make the phone smoother,yes,just sometimes,killing those apps that wont restart
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laill said:
We still need it even in 2.3.3 in some species.
As the ram of our Xperia is very small,sometimes a kill will make the phone smoother,yes,just sometimes,killing those apps that wont restart
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Well you obviously don't know what you're doing.
I'm on a froyo miui rom and NEVER use it and my phone is always smooth as silk.
If you're still using one after 2.2+, you don't know what you are doing
linux/android memory management is boss
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
fiscidtox said:
Well you obviously don't know what you're doing.
I'm on a froyo miui rom and NEVER use it and my phone is always smooth as silk.
If you're still using one after 2.2+, you don't know what you are doing
linux/android memory management is boss
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
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Perhaps I dont know what I am doing.
Insufficient ram is one of the dead flaw of our Xperia.
Even though you are using Android 2.2+,this flaw is stilo bitting our mind.
Yes,Android's memory manage sys does work.However,it has no doubt that some laggs can be experinced when such mechanism is working,I am talking about heavy use(available memory is smaller than 80mb?).
Killing some non-restart apps does make you feel smoother no matter what roms
You can see tha why wb's rom is very smooth and FAST?
Autokill is implempted in it.
Also,the definition of lag varies among people.
For me,unless the Xperia smooth lik iphone,I wont be satisfied.
Cheers
L
Ps,Ahh,tricky wp7
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laill said:
Perhaps I dont know what I am doing.
Insufficient ram is one of the dead flaw of our Xperia.
Even though you are using Android 2.2+,this flaw is stilo bitting our mind.
Yes,Android's memory manage sys does work.However,it has no doubt that some laggs can be experinced when such mechanism is working,I am talking about heavy use(available memory is smaller than 80mb?).
Killing some non-restart apps does make you feel smoother no matter what roms
You can see tha why wb's rom is very smooth and FAST?
Autokill is implempted in it.
Also,the definition of lag varies among people.
For me,unless the Xperia smooth lik iphone,I wont be satisfied.
Cheers
L
Ps,Ahh,tricky wp7
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have you ever used a mac computer?
Just because ram isn't showing free does not mean it isn't there. It keeps apps background but using no actual ram or cpu so they can be quickly opened. If it needs the ram it is easily freed up for other things instantly.
Free ram sitting there doing nothing is actually a waste on a linux based system
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have you ever used a mac computer?
Just because ram isn't showing free does not mean it isn't there. It keeps apps background but using no actual ram or cpu so they can be quickly opened. If it needs the ram it is easily freed up for other things instantly.
Free ram sitting there doing nothing is actually a waste on a linux based system
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Of cous I have used mac,my home has one mac book pro.
I understand your point.Memory not free doesnot mean it cannt be used.
I am concerning the case that heavy use.
Even system freeze( correct me if I use this word wrong) those low priority apps,however,in such case,too much apps to be freezed will make laggy.
So,try it yourself,open msn talk pro,facebook,xda app,browser,poweramp with playing flac,dsp manager and large game(Heavy use enough?)
In the game,switch back to launcher,wow,shouls be laggy(Sys just do what it supposed to do.
Sometimes the memory manage mechainsm can not been done within in a short time,killing some non-restart may make you feel less laggy.
Compare the smoothness when the free ram is 30mb and 130 mb,give it a try
cheers,
L
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I did, I keep clicking on a bunch of stuff and I'm not getting lag....
Maybe it's the rom you are on? I'm on cob's miui and I literally never experience lag. Then again I haven't on any of the 2.2 or up roms I use. I generally always make full use of the multitasking too
maxidude44 said:
look at iOS and how snappy it feels even on older generation devices, then look at current generation android devices like the Xperia and you really notice how much it lags.
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I threw up a little bit in my mouth when I heard this. Have you used a 3g iPhone since ios4 came out? Its the slowest smartphone I have ever experience, jailbroken or not. The xperia runs circles around that. Why would you prefer no multitasking or flash over what you have currently?
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I did, I keep clicking on a bunch of stuff and I'm not getting lag....
Maybe it's the rom you are on? I'm on cob's miui and I literally never experience lag. Then again I haven't on any of the 2.2 or up roms I use. I generally always make full use of the multitasking too
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All the 2.2,2.3 rom here have tasted by me.
Are you really sure that you have completely no lags(not even a very very tiny) when your free mem is below 30?
If so,okay,as I have mentioned,definition of lag varys amomg people><
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laill said:
All the 2.2,2.3 rom here have tasted by me.
Are you really sure that you have completely no lags(not even a very very tiny) when your free mem is below 30?
If so,okay,as I have mentioned,definition of lag varys amomg people><
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the launcher gives me no lag, maybe an app opening might take a millisecond more but thats negligible and doesn't bother me
fiscidtox said:
Well you obviously don't know what you're doing.
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
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Please do remember that I stated "**Please no "windows is crap" or "why would you want that?" stuff, I've seen my fair share.**"
I got rid of my task killer after I went on 2.2 read in another post its supposedly bad for the phone but I'm no dev so I wouldn't know. But I've had no problems without it.
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laill said:
Perhaps I dont know what I am doing.
Insufficient ram is one of the dead flaw of our Xperia.
Even though you are using Android 2.2+,this flaw is stilo bitting our mind.
Yes,Android's memory manage sys does work.However,it has no doubt that some laggs can be experinced when such mechanism is working,I am talking about heavy use(available memory is smaller than 80mb?).
Killing some non-restart apps does make you feel smoother no matter what roms
You can see tha why wb's rom is very smooth and FAST?
Autokill is implempted in it.
Also,the definition of lag varies among people.
For me,unless the Xperia smooth lik iphone,I wont be satisfied.
Cheers
L
Ps,Ahh,tricky wp7
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It's not the RAM, it's mostly the CPU + FPS Cap that causes or x10 to be/look slow. SE hasn't put much work in our 2.1 firmware. Only 1.6 was some kind of work.
maxidude44 said:
Please do remember that I stated "**Please no "windows is crap" or "why would you want that?" stuff, I've seen my fair share.**"
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You crap all over android and say this so I'm allowed to have my say as well
maxidude44 said:
Yeah, I've tried them but they just aren't as responsive as a real WP7 handset.
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fiscidtox said:
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
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Isn't that windows OS run on Intel kind of CPU, what CPU is SE phone?
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A few months ago I would end up with 600 mb of ram after opening a few apps including settings. Each month has brought improvements. After the January update I now have around 1200 or more free mb after opening and closing apps keeping the phone fast. I use a lot of ram with my widgets and apps so I like this last update
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A few months ago I would end up with 600 mb of ram after opening a few apps including settings. Each month has brought improvements. After the January update I now have around 1200 or more free mb after opening and closing apps keeping the phone fast. I use a lot of ram with my widgets and apps so I like this last update
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Does that mean to say that some background apps are being shut down more? As they say, unused ram can be at times wasted ram, so I hope this freeing up of the ram is not at the expense of apps being closed!
cd993 said:
Does that mean to say that some background apps are being shut down more? As they say, unused ram can be at times wasted ram, so I hope this freeing up of the ram is not at the expense of apps being closed!
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Man, I must be huge minority. I never leave apps open. When I'm done I close everything, always.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Man, I must be huge minority. I never leave apps open. When I'm done I close everything, always.
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Right there with ya bruh :good:
Badger50 said:
Right there with ya bruh :good:
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Are we wrong? Lol
Am I using Android wrong all these years?
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Are we wrong? Lol
Am I using Android wrong all these years?
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Oh hell no! I love swiping stuff away too! :laugh:
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Man, I must be huge minority. I never leave apps open. When I'm done I close everything, always.
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Badger50 said:
Right there with ya bruh :good:
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For me I generally do too. Back in the day I used to have "long press back to kill" and so my method of returning to home screen was always to kill an app. But I've found recently with some apps, e.g. Di radio music streaming, despite being ignored from battery optimisation, kept getting closed in the background the other day...
Therefore I hope this potential new ram management with Jan update is smarter...
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Oh hell no! I love swiping stuff away too! :laugh:
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Often, I open a bunch of apps just to swipe them away lol.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Often, I open a bunch of apps just to swipe them away lol.
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Nice! My record is 83 while sitting in an airport! Gotta have something to do while drinking and waiting! ???
Badger50 said:
Nice! My record is 83 while sitting in an airport! Gotta have something to do while drinking and waiting! ???
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Lmao!
I'm not even gonna try to touch that. You win. Lol
cd993 said:
Does that mean to say that some background apps are being shut down more? As they say, unused ram can be at times wasted ram, so I hope this freeing up of the ram is not at the expense of apps being closed!
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It's better ram management. When I open and close settings I would lose 200mb...so it wouldn't free up the ram even though I closed settings. Now the ram is restored after closing settings.
So they have been working on ram management.
panflute said:
It's better ram management. When I open and close settings I would lose 200mb...so it wouldn't free up the ram even though I closed settings. Now the ram is restored after closing settings.
So they have been working on ram management.
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Great stuff, glad to hear! Will look forward to HavocOS being updated
Same for me. Around 900mb left
Badger50 said:
Nice! My record is 83 while sitting in an airport! Gotta have something to do while drinking and waiting! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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I don't even have 83 apps in my app drawer. LOL. I keep it minimal.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I don't even have 83 apps in my app drawer. LOL. I keep it minimal.
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Hyperbole bruh! ???
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Are we wrong? Lol
Am I using Android wrong all these years?
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Actually you are, opened apps stored in RAM does not use any additional cpu/battery resources. On the other hand closing and then reopening apps uses the cpu so it uses more battery.
Mikulec said:
Actually you are, opened apps stored in RAM does not use any additional cpu/battery resources. On the other hand closing and then reopening apps uses the cpu so it uses more battery.
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Yep, I believe that. However, I bet the difference is so minimal it really makes no difference at all.
I don't know what they improved, but I know that I have loosed 2 at 3 hours of SOT.
I was (on December Patch) between 7-8 hours of SOT and now only 5-6.
It's crazy
I swear my phone seems faster since this update
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I swear my phone seems faster since this update
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My guess is placebo effect for everyone.
Some people swear the battery life is worse, other it's better, some said the device is faster, other it's slower.