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Only 180 ~ 200 MB RAM free on boot?

What's going on? even after using advanced task killer, I only have around 200MB RAM free from the 512MB
What is eating up all my RAM?
It doesn't make sense that the OS requires 300MB of RAM to run, since it runs on devices with 128MB

I know I'm not the only one seeing this
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Yeah, whats up with this????
After a reboot and letting it sit for a minute, I kill all tasks and it tells me 237Megs available....
Can the system be using all of that or something???

The os could be caching ram, maybe like windows 7 does now where it always shows low free ram even when it isn't truly in use. We need a linux or android expert to chime in.
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Precaching photos for your contacts and their info and other photos in terms of widgets.
Droid X probably has some aggressive precaching.

Its pretty damn fast and everything runs great so i don't care too much how much it sais is free.
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Yet it seems like nobody has thought to precache the app icons in the launcher. The launcher has always been the most lag-prone part of any android phone.

InspecterJones said:
Its pretty damn fast and everything runs great so i don't care too much how much it sais is free.
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Right there with ya ; )

yes this phone has 512mb of ram, but the hardware in the phone makes alot of that ram dedicated to it, hardware such as the awesome gpu! so even 200mb free! is still alot let over.

Ryan Frawley said:
Yet it seems like nobody has thought to precache the app icons in the launcher. The launcher has always been the most lag-prone part of any android phone.
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Only takes a second and they may have aimed for a limit.

I assume froyo may help with this...i hope! Im dropping down into the 50s will normal use and if i kill everything i can get back up to about 120s. there is a little lag on scrolling but ill wait for froyo. loving my first android!

I'm hovering around 75 or so, with mild auto task killing. Is this something to be concerned about? It feels relatively smooth.
EDIT: Will auto-killing tasks (useless ones) improve battery life or hurt it by wasting cpu cycles? I've heard that task killers aren't good for Android, and yet I also hear that they can improve battery life if used properly. I figure XDA will have a few people who can help answer that question

which tasks can you kill?
i wanted to know which tasks can be killed with my auto task killer without messing up anything with the phone? thanks.

Mikerrrrrrrr said:
I've heard that task killers aren't good for Android, and yet I also hear that they can improve battery life if used properly.
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Unless you're running apps that are poorly designed and behaving badly, you probably won't see any benefits from using a task killer.

Lag? What lag?

Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?

What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?

The difference must just be that I'm not a heavy app user. I still have the stock firmware the phone came with. Never had a 10 second delay with anything. Never noticed any sort of build up of lag. It works great! Do you guys install like 50 apps on your phones or something? Clearly that must be your problem.

I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
Not saying others are only having problems with the above situation, but it does seem like there are specific factors that cause it, which is why a lot of people have had no problems.

The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)

Pika007 said:
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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I know, but until we can actually use it, we are limited to 256MB (or was it 232MB?)

SGS has 512MB RAM

Robin.B said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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And although I am not a really heavy app user, I am a heavy user, and it wasn't hard to make the phone lag quite heavily at times, so I'd say no, it has not been blown out of proportion.

Robin.B; said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.

Tachikoma_kun said:
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
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Tachikoma_kun,
Please understand that Android does not work like the Mac OSX on an iMac, and that, if you open 8 odd apps in a row, you should _not_ have them all running in the background at once.
Android's memory management should close applications and free memory as needed. Processes will start if needed, be set to inactive as long as possible and killed if necessary. This works fine with other Android devices and obviously not with the Galaxy S.
You can read about the life cycle of Android Components at
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Using a task killer to free up memory might make your Galaxy S faster than not using one, but this is still a lot less efficient than it should be. In a working Android system you should use the most out of your available memory and the system should stay fast as you open and switch between applications. You should never have to think about which applications are running or not running.
Again, this works just fine with other devices. If it does not work with the Galaxy S then this is a serious flaw in the system. The flaw might be related to the slow I/O on the internal SD, or maybe there is a firmware bug besides the I/O. But it is currently not working correctly.
If you have access to 256mb memory of RAM, and you use a task killer to always keep 100MB free, then you use your device like it only had 156MB.
I also do not believe that the average customer without a technical background is able to use a task killer without shooting himself in the foot. Without knowledge about what each application and service does, and how android manages background processes, how should a normal user know what he can kill and which services he should keep running?

lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.

lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.

eaglesteve said:
+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.

Enarca said:
I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?

That is exactly what i was telling people.
I come from the HTC Athena, and OMG... that thing is like crawling on sand, even with its super duper 625 Mhz CPU which by then was supposed to be the state of the art.
yet everything i did was sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, using the SGS was like smooth flowing water, everything is perfect in this phone out of the box.
Enarca said:
Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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ksizzle9 said:
Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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what made you choose a Droid X vs. a SGS i9000?
the 2 phones are almost identical, except for the camera.

the lag is very real.
try opening Dolphin HD and then closing it again .....about 8+ seconds to do either, and that's with nothing else open.
instantaneous on the nexus with 2.2.
some apps are much slower than others, some there is no difference, but even the default samsung apps such as phonebook have a good lag when switching between tabs.

eaglesteve said:
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I agree. I'm guessing you haven't used/owned a HTC Hero? If so, you haven't experienced the PAIN!! lol.

On my side I don't have any heavy app, I don't do games, or HD stuff what I expect from my phone is to be able to show me my mail ... and that's where I have plenty of lag ( not all the time but everyday for sure).
Lag to open the mail, lag to delete the mail, lag to come back on the homescreen.
Up to 15 sec to come back from the settings menu.
My benchmark is the iphone 3GS but also the HTC P3600 and the HTC diamond which are not that fast
I have never been waiting so long in front of my phone.
Excuse me if I am working with my phone and I don't want to wait 10 sec all the time.
And stop insulting people who complains please
Oh and the comment about installing 50 apps .... please learn how android is supposed to work. I should be able to install 1000 app without any problem. Who care about the number of app installed ???
By the way, when I have a lot of lag I go in systempanel to see what it my amount of memory and it's around 30-50 Mb so it should not be a problem.

Froyo is out and the LAG is still here, what next?

So the gps may be doomed forever, i can live without it but what about the lag? i dont want workarounds, i want a REAL fix , heck id settle for samsung speaking openly about the issue, but they wont say a word , so what do u think? the lag is here forever? is samsung working on a fix?

and people are still posting in this section.

Chad_Petree said:
the lag is here forever? (
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Yes
Chad_Petree said:
is samsung working on a fix?
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NO
case closed

Chad_Petree said:
So the gps may be doomed forever, i can live without it but what about the lag? i dont want workarounds, i want a REAL fix , heck id settle for samsung speaking openly about the issue, but they wont say a word , so what do u think? the lag is here forever? is samsung working on a fix?
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The only android phone i've used that didn't have lag was the Nexus One... I regret selling it now to get the SGS

My froyo feels smooth and the last time I had a bad case of lag/horrible jerkiness was at eclair. Dont know what im doing wrong except using auto killer and launcherpro instead of samsung's default

Use OCLF, Voodoo, z4mod - whatever. They all mostly fix the lag (there is still a bit of lag from low ram in some cases, but perhaps we can get that fixed too by tweaking and unmounting the initramfs after boot....)

cheetah2k said:
The only android phone i've used that didn't have lag was the Nexus One... I regret selling it now to get the SGS
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Well... I was going to agree, but I've just had to restart my n1. Why? Started to lag! I'm starting to think the lag is an android thing in general. Don't get me wrong, out of the box the n1 is clearly better, but its still there, eventually.
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512 ram
does the official has 512 ram

Grr you RAM TROLLS use search, u won't get 512Mb usable..NEVER
Check topics and you will get your anwser why.

Does anyone here really think samsung is going to fix rfs or the gps? Its samsung, get a life. They are happy in releasing a phone that has a working rom, and they wont do much more about it, dont expect them to release something magical the way nokia does...
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The lag was actually fixed in JM9 but it regressed in JPM...

lugi93 said:
Grr you RAM TROLLS use search, u won't get 512Mb usable..NEVER
Check topics and you will get your anwser why.
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Killing myself with laughter lol

he wants it to play crysis lol

stoneyfordni said:
he wants it to play crysis lol
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Rofl,
Well iam on jm9 n there is no lag at all.
The froyo more optimized to snap dragon 1ghz, thats the reason works well on nexus one.
Widows phone 7 samsung using snap dragon 1ghz lol

zyo said:
Yes
NO
case closed
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You guys have no idea what you're talking about!
The fact that some apps need time to process data here and there is NOT lag.
If you want lag, go back to JM1, I did, for product code tricks, and it's terrible, I really don't know how samsung could release the device in such a state!
But bottom line, the LAG IS GONE. the GPS ISSUES ARE GONE, if you don't believe it install any earlier eclair and the differences will be mind blowing!
Thread closed.

The GPS is FIXED! RFS issues are also much better than they used to be (though ext4 would still be an improvement). NewsRob is just about usable now.
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sometimes i start thinking that samsung has some kind of contract with that fruit company to produce over the top devices that have lousy performance so people start to belive android is ****....

I think the main problem in official froyo is laggy browser..tried Dolphin and xscope they are laggy too..even with flash disabled..

Lag very much still in SGS, open phonebook takes a sec or 2, on Desire its instant.
All the small delays gives SGS a laggy impression.

Android accelerator - A Magic runs same speed than a Nexus

Hi all,
Very impressed after watching this video on the Cyanogen Mod :
Demo video : http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...aster-flexycore-thanks-cyanogenmod-community/
I m pleased to share it with you and would like to know what you're thinking about this "droidBooster" which make an old HTC running at the same speed than a Nexus One! :

Whats the point of this?
What does a video of a video player proove? Wouldn't some real time benchmarks like linpack or quadrant be more proof.
Still why didnt they have 2 Nexus One's and show how much faster the one with droidbooster got.
All these booster softwares sound abit like all the BS booster softwares for windows.
sceptical...

Hmm I suspect that they are overclocking because they didnt mention anything about clock speed but lets hope that its legit
Edit: they have an apk in the market
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Imperial.mack said:
Hmm I suspect that they are overclocking because they didnt mention anything about clock speed but lets hope that its legit
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I hardly think they are overclocking becose that would make the software only runnable on rooted devices. Which would remove a huge part of their possible market share.
And overclocking with that much improvement in performance? Youd have to double the clock rates. Which on nearly all devices is damn close to impossible. Except for Desire-Z for example.
Unless they somehow are without Root overclocking it or changing the kernel to their own super optimized i dont really see how this is done.

nd the nexus one can fly beyond their limits?

They posted this video showing how it works basically:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEAz9fRoDmA

Their software modifies the Dalvik code, which means that you do not only need to be root, but you also can't install this software without modifying your ROM.

From the web page http://www.flexycore.com/droidbooster-overview.html
"DroidBooster technology enables to compile any Android Java code in optimized native binary when generating the ROM, taking full power of the underlying CPU for high performance and low power execution."
This is not overclocking, but maybe be a paid app (and very expensive app)
Sorry 4 my poor english

It's actually more like Jit.
See this video for further explications : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEAz9fRoDmA
Lol ok took me so much time to answer that already 4 ppl posted !!

After looking at the company website who developed DroidBooster, I discover an other Video with a principle presentation of droidbooster.
"DroidBooster relies on compiling and executing any embedded Java Code of an Android system as binary." according to the video available here:
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=tEAz9fRoDmA[/url]

this thing is kinda bs imo. And the guy's voice is just gay

LoL
I hope to come out soon

If this thing really does what the company claims, then Google will probably buy the code from them. Also limiting this software to rooted phones means it wouldn't make a ton of cash, and then expecting them to cook and sign their own ROMs is a weird business model. In other words, it's meant for developers only, so we kinda have to wait for official incorporation.

exciting! hope they support the nexus ..

DDM123 said:
If this thing really does what the company claims, then Google will probably buy the code from them.
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No, I doubt this code is worth anything to google. All they say they are doing it converting the dalvic code into native code. If google wanted to do that they could very easily, the JIT they included with Froyo already does do it to some extent.

I won't believe this for a second. I have both the N1 and Magic, and I can safely say the N1 is MUCH faster. It should be a no-brainer, just look at the specs. The Magic was what -- the second Android ever!? They were bound to improve, and the N1 set the bar high a year ago. Now look at the plethora of fast devices we have, and the N1 can be thanked for that. I once read that one of the reasons Google launched the Nexus was to jump-start the "super" smart phone market, because manufacturers weren't pushing the bar far enough in their devices. N1 set a standard for the rest of them. The way I see it, the Magic was nothing more than an early experiment.
And I never had an issue playing videos on my Magic anyway. What proof is that? The N1 is definitely more responsive, boots 10x faster, never runs out of memory. The Magic pretty much requires an app killer; never needed one on the Nexus. I can go on and on, but I think I made my point.

Bloodflame said:
I won't believe this for a second. I have both the N1 and Magic, and I can safely say the N1 is MUCH faster. It should be a no-brainer, just look at the specs. The Magic was what -- the second Android ever!? They were bound to improve, and the N1 set the bar high a year ago. Now look at the plethora of fast devices we have, and the N1 can be thanked for that. I once read that one of the reasons Google launched the Nexus was to jump-start the "super" smart phone market, because manufacturers weren't pushing the bar far enough in their devices. N1 set a standard for the rest of them. The way I see it, the Magic was nothing more than an early experiment.
And I never had an issue playing videos on my Magic anyway. What proof is that? The N1 is definitely more responsive, boots 10x faster, never runs out of memory. The Magic pretty much requires an app killer; never needed one on the Nexus. I can go on and on, but I think I made my point.
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Not really. The point is that this guy is claiming to make java code run in native binary, thus ensuring that the CPU isn't doing unnecessary work to interpret and run java code. If possible (who's to say) then it would make a Magic run much faster than it does. It might even be feasible to suggest that it would run as fast as a stock Nexus.
Think about it this way, why is it that the original iPhone UI is so smooth? The code is optimized and run as a native binary, not some VM that has to be compiled and run by the CPU every time it wants it. Native code would make the Magic much faster.
The whole point is moot though, because this isn't something that you will see bundled into an .apk anytime soon. It might be novel code that Google picks up on and uses in later OS revisions though. Who knows.
sassafras

As i understand it will cost a high memory consumption, where 512mb of ram will be not enought for it (Actually its already not enough on miui rom with Dalvik VM, on nexus1 i have only 130mb free). And high power drain.
Welcome back to Windows Mobile
Btw i dont believe it, they just want to make some money with air bubbles

Tim4 said:
As i understand it will cost a high memory consumption, where 512mb of ram will be not enought for it (Actually its already not enough on miui rom with Dalvik VM, on nexus1 i have only 130mb free). And high power drain.
Welcome back to Windows Mobile
Btw i dont believe it, they just want to make some money with air bubbles
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"Only" 130MB free? It's 130MB that isn't ever used by the system, making it wasted 130MB, and you're referring to it as "only"?
This point was discussed zillions of times in Autokiller Minfree and "Don't need task killers" threads. Android has efficient memory management, Nexus having it VERY efficient since Froyo, much more efficient than really needed. It never uses its 400MB of user memory or even close to it.
Funny, how marketing affects people. They want more of the things they don't need.

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"Only" 130MB free? It's 130MB that isn't ever used by the system, making it wasted 130MB, and you're referring to it as "only"?
This point was discussed zillions of times in Autokiller Minfree and "Don't need task killers" threads. Android has efficient memory management, Nexus having it VERY efficient since Froyo, much more efficient than really needed. It never uses its 400MB of user memory or even close to it.
Funny, how marketing affects people. They want more of the things they don't need.
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Yeah, i call it "the only free memory."
Take a look:
You have 130mb left.
1)browser eats 65mb of ram. 65mb left
2)+some other apps that running at background/service.
So what i have in result?
My apps often be killed by android because out of memory.
The most anoying thing is when im surfing, writing some stuff on forums i get my browser killed with data lost. Its rare but still hapens.
Another real example: Dungeon Defenders. When i play it, i got almost all my apps be kicked from memory.
P.s. I know about wipe. Just moved to latest 1.1.14miui, have wiped everything 3 times.
P.s.2 ofcource it depends on how many apps you have and which rom you use. No problems with ram on stock android but i just dont like it, so...

Smoothness of android

When is android going to be smooth as wp7 and ios? Why isn't it as smooth now? Why? They said group then gingerbread and now what ever comes after it?
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Nice troll.. Really..

mosd said:
When is android going to be smooth as wp7 and ios? Why isn't it as smooth now? Why? They said group then gingerbread and now what ever comes after it?
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My sgs running android 2.2.1 and a tricked out kernel is smooth as butter, easily as smooth as my 4th Gen iPod touch.
If your screen looks jerky, then likely it is a classic case of JoOSoS....Jerk on Other Side of Screen.
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Troll? This ain't world of war craft? So you mean your galaxy s is smooth as wp7 scrolling apps? I have Miui its very smooth but still not like the ios? When is hardware going to be activated? Will never buy Iphone because it locked im just wondering no need to get angry? Its. Not your mother im talking about its just a phone?
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Based upon some pf your past posts below .
I would guess that the problem is .
One your phone has a defect
or Two somehow you have defected it
or Three you have a defect .
jje
past posts include .>>>>>>>>>>>
Beta 1.3 is awsome no problems very smooth
I'm afraid that my phone will so hot that it takes fire
Can I stop background from moving when scrolling apps?
Is it just my phone that sharpness gets very bad on? On market and on game its so bad sharpness? Even stock is better
Also the apps and pictures on Internet is very pixladed
i had first juwes gingerbread rom, then i flashed jpy and miui? is that wrong ? where can i find Ezbase rom
cant see ext card ? not in phone or in computer? i have the latest kernel installed ? whats wrong ? tried to restard.

rschenck said:
My sgs running android 2.2.1 and a tricked out kernel is smooth as butter, easily as smooth as my 4th Gen iPod touch.
If your screen looks jerky, then likely it is a classic case of JoOSoS....Jerk on Other Side of Screen.
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not really JoOSoS... but Android inside... IDIOT outside

Haha no its not? You think I'm the only one experienced a hot phone? You should check cm7 thread? Anyway I have friends with desire hd, Htc desire, nexus phones and i still feel Iphone is smoother? Is. Hardware acceleration activated? Look at xoom it lags when scrolling thru screens Ipad not why is that? I'm just wondering? And if sharpness is good on galaxy s why put sharpness fix on?
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mosd said:
Haha no its not? You think I'm the only one experienced a hot phone? You should check cm7 thread? Anyway I have friends with desire hd, Htc desire, nexus phones and i still feel Iphone is smoother? Is. Hardware acceleration activated? Look at xoom it lags when scrolling thru screens Ipad not why is that? I'm just wondering? And if sharpness is good on galaxy s why put sharpness fix on?
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Easy fix. Sell your current phone, buy a wp7 one instead, switch forums then live happily ever after

You talking about Miui and CM7 and complaining about bugs. When it says all over the threads for both those roms that they have known issues. You got nothing better to do?

Non of thes OS'es is smooth as WINDOWS PHONE 7, not Android, Not IOS.
I have used HTC phones, Samsung, Motorola, difrent android phones, the smoothnes is nothing compering to WP7.
I like Android but to be honest, my next phone will definitiv be a WINDOWS PHONE 7, and the UI is, uuuuuuuuuuuuhu, so damn SEXY

suua said:
Non of thes OS'es is smooth as WINDOWS PHONE 7, not Android, Not IOS.
I have used HTC phones, Samsung, Motorola, difrent android phones, the smoothnes is nothing compering to WP7.
I like Android but to be honest, my next phone will definitiv be a WINDOWS PHONE 7, and the UI is, uuuuuuuuuuuuhu, so damn SEXY
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I prefere to stay in the REAL WORLD

What the **** is up with you guys and getting angry? Are we talking about your country or mother or something? We're taking about a system? And google don't give a **** about you? They just want your money so shop defending them like it was your family everyone knows ios and wp7 is smoother im just asking why is that? If you can't answer without getting angry don't answer?
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Android is coded with java which isn't the best thing to make an OS with as its bloated. Also companies like microsoft and apple can properly code the hardware with the OS. Its easy for apple as they dont make many phones. It is also easy for Microsoft as they ask for minimum requirements in terms of processor. Its harder for android as there are so many phones with different speed and types of processors.

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What the **** is up with you guys and getting angry? Are we talking about your country or mother or something? We're taking about a system? And google don't give a **** about you? They just want your money so shop defending them like it was your family everyone knows ios and wp7 is smoother im just asking why is that? If you can't answer without getting angry don't answer?
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And MS and Apple dont?
But in general i do agree that Android lags abit more,dont feel as smooth as WP7/iOS4.But to be honest,thats not why you buy an smartphone is it?

I'd agree and ask the question too.
I do have alot of apps and generally the phone isn't too bad with smoothness but if, e.g. newsrob is synchronising, things can get very slow and non-responsive and I'm using jvk.
Live wallpapers with multiple widgets can make scrolling jerky and sometimes with lag of seconds.
Here are all my apps...
http://www.appbrain.com/user/markdj/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
Sync/ background tasks are...
Tweekdeck - 2hrs
Gmail/contacts
Earthquake alerter
Tango
G talk
Beautiful widgets/weather
newsrob - 4hrs
Meteoblue widget
Aix weather widget
Bbc news
Sky news
hullomail
Tv show favs
Running with tv off animation/flip-flop screens/lock screen.
Maybe I'm answering my own question !!
These widgets are things that ios doesn't have, as well as live wallpapers. Does ios have apps that run in the background?
Please no flaming - we all want a better android, just trying to understand how android works.
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What the **** is up with you guys and getting angry? Are we talking about your country or mother or something? We're taking about a system? And google don't give a **** about you? They just want your money so shop defending them like it was your family everyone knows ios and wp7 is smoother im just asking why is that? If you can't answer without getting angry don't answer?
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Trust me i am not even close to getting upset. I just pointed out this thread as a waste of time especially the man who started it.

what ur saying m8 is totally true , android is no match to wp7 nor to ios in smoothness!!
having said that, its totally justifiable, android experience is the closest it can be with pc. u can do almost anything on ur device, like in windows for pc (on a tiny 1 gh processor with limited ram) ---------> the price is the smoothness.
will i go for another os,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, never, cause i want my phone to do everything

i know what are you talking about. this is all that i miss in my galaxy s - the smoothness. i have also jvk, with sweet honey 3.0 over jvk and it just not as smooth as iOS or some rom i saw on htc desire. don't think i don't like my phone. it's great and i love working with it. but what i miss is the smoothness.
CM7 and MIUI are not official now and have known bugs and not for my daily use.
so.. maybe we need to wait more.

Anywho....to answer the dudes question.... Both iOS and Metro UI are hardware accelerated. There you go.
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