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HTC Incredible vs Samsung Vibrant: HTC Incredible is faster?

I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?

I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here

My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
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DarkAgent said:
I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?
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Have you applied the "fix" yet? I don't see any delays or lag when I open apps.

if you apply the "lag fix" i'm almost certain you won't be able to notice any slow downs in terms of opening applications.
from the limited knowledge I have of the whole "samsung vibrant lag" it's caused by the way the vibrant processes I/O read/write? it's very inefficient as compared to other phones. the fix is a work around and it literally makes it amazingly "snappy" and fast.
I'm choosing to hold off on the fix for now, people reporting issues and having to ODIN flash back to stock is turning me off.
*edit - totally missed the part that said you applied the lag fix. reading comprehension ftl

the OP said:
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
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He has applied the lag fix.

Tpavey said:
I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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Naw, hes on 2.1

heygrl said:
We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here
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Not trying to prove anything. I am half venting my superphone is not-so-super and half asking for advice on this issue (indirectly).

bdveteran18 said:
My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
Sent from my awesome Vibrant using XDA App
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The problem is it isn't just on messaging; its pretty much everywhere (except browsing... browsing is blazing fast.)

I have a friend with an incredible its a few months old but I found the opposite to be true. Using her phone made me appreciate the speed of the vibrant, I almost felt like I was back using a G1. my phone is about as stock as you can get aside from running launcher pro instead of the regular home app.

2.2 will only make this thing faster. I use touchwiz to show off my phone. It is a lil choppy but never slow. I think our only competitor when we get 2.2 will be the x but for some reason im not worried.
Sgs

My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1

Classie83 said:
My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1
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Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol

After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.

heygrl said:
After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.
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I wonder how it would run on a snapdragon .. lol
Probably horrible ..

smashpunks said:
Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol
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Yupe .. same here.

The love of this phone

I love this damn phone. I dont know about yall, but I could give a **** about stock 2.2 our any of the other newer phones out.. This puppy is a beast running team whiskey, master, and eugenes roms...
These do so much, phone, browser with full flash, gps (yes mine works great), alarm, games, camera, video camera, movie player, mp3 player etc. phones do so damn much, its fun as **** trying out all these fun mods that these great developers make for our bad ass phone....
What else yall use these bad ass toys for? I love mine and had it on day 1 release

I've had mine for 2 weeks and I'm still trying to figure out everything. (I still need to get the balls to root it so I can enjoy those sweet roms)

smashpunks said:
I love this damn phone. I dont know about yall, but I could give a **** about stock 2.2 our any of the other newer phones out.. This puppy is a beast running team whiskey, master, and eugenes roms...
These do so much, phone, browser with full flash, gps (yes mine works great), alarm, games, camera, video camera, movie player, mp3 player etc. phones do so damn much, its fun as **** trying out all these fun mods that these great developers make for our bad ass phone....
What else yall use these bad ass toys for? I love mine and had it on day 1 release
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+1 beside the stock part (if it runs on android im interested)
sgsV Nero-DoW1.4 OC

Love mine as well!!
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You can love it all you want, but unless you heavily MOD this phone up (Root + Lagfix and more often than not a Custom ROM), the out of box experience is similar to these.
All of these lag/free/blackscreen issues still exist on JI6 for the Vibrant. I may put a video on YouTube with a demonstration soon, cause it's a myth, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do065zuSUI

This is kind of ironic...
I was just going to post how my stock JI6 vibrant is running pretty well; I opened and closed a bunch of stuff in a short period of time, but then tried to open the gallery and bam, my phone froze. No response from the keys, then I went to lock the phone, but it never turned back on.
Just did a battery pull

I've had mine freeze up and require a battery pull just swiping to another home screen.

im running stock ji6, no problems ever, with gps, gallery, lags.
Both of the youtube vids are with the i9000.

Maybe the vibrant just works great in Oregon! =)

I think if it's going to "just work" anywhere it should be either Mountain View, CA or Cupertino, CA.

ZombiiBite said:
I've had mine for 2 weeks and I'm still trying to figure out everything. (I still need to get the balls to root it so I can enjoy those sweet roms)
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you won't regret it..learn all the ins and outs of rooting and you will constantly be flashing roms, which never gets old

N8ter said:
You can love it all you want, but unless you heavily MOD this phone up (Root + Lagfix and more often than not a Custom ROM), the out of box experience is similar to these.
All of these lag/free/blackscreen issues still exist on JI6 for the Vibrant. I may put a video on YouTube with a demonstration soon, cause it's a myth, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do065zuSUI
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When mine behaves like that I unload some apps. Even though it has 16 gigs, it seems you really can't just add apps until it's full.
I also suspect there is some kind of multitasking pre-emption problem too. For example, when you install an app, the phone virtually freezes when it's actually writing the app to disk. Maybe it's just a disk format or sd driver problem.
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ZachLL88 said:
im running stock ji6, no problems ever, with gps, gallery, lags.
Both of the youtube vids are with the i9000.
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The same issues on every other Gs.
Why do lag fixes exist, if not?
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cyberbillp said:
When mine behaves like that I unload some apps. Even though it has 16 gigs, it seems you really can't just add apps until it's full.
I also suspect there is some kind of multitasking pre-emption problem too. For example, when you install an app, the phone virtually freezes when it's actually writing the app to disk. Maybe it's just a disk format or sd driver problem.
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No. these phones have terrible I/O performance. Notice in thr video when she runs twicca it freezes while loading data (most likely from cache). It's due to the RFS filesystem Samsung uses.
The fact that those are i9k's doesn't change anything. All the stock Galaxy S phones have this issue, save for the Nexus.
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cyberbillp said:
When mine behaves like that I unload some apps. Even though it has 16 gigs, it seems you really can't just add apps until it's full.
I also suspect there is some kind of multitasking pre-emption problem too. For example, when you install an app, the phone virtually freezes when it's actually writing the app to disk. Maybe it's just a disk format or sd driver problem.
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This is a problem on JI6. Nothing short of a different firmware version will fix the pause when installing apps. Not a "lag fix" either.
I have no problems with my Vibrant. Trolls will Troll because that's what they do, but the 0.001% of owners here don't give a good idea of what regular owners really think. The ones that consistently complain about how horrible the phone is and continues to use it, even after claiming to have sold it or will be, should just be ignored. There is an ulterior motive here.
I have stock JL5, and it runs great. JI6 has a problem with the Gallery, well known and I posted a solution for it already. But JL5 is running so good there really isn't much reason to be running JI6 over it.

N8ter said:
You can love it all you want, but unless you heavily MOD this phone up (Root + Lagfix and more often than not a Custom ROM), the out of box experience is similar to these.
All of these lag/free/blackscreen issues still exist on JI6 for the Vibrant. I may put a video on YouTube with a demonstration soon, cause it's a myth, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do065zuSUI
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Geez, my phone sure has never behaved like that (thankfully!); and I'm "out of the box." I can see how it would drive you nuts, lead you to "lag-fixes," etc.! Just want to point out that the problem sure ain't universal, for whatever reason. (I don't have a ton of apps installed; I wonder if that makes a difference.)
Occasionally, there will be a slight pause when opening an app or something, but it doesn't ruin my day...

pavvy said:
Geez, my phone sure has never behaved like that (thankfully!); and I'm "out of the box." I can see how it would drive you nuts, lead you to "lag-fixes," etc.! Just want to point out that the problem sure ain't universal, for whatever reason. (I don't have a ton of apps installed; I wonder if that makes a difference.)
Occasionally, there will be a slight pause when opening an app or something, but it doesn't ruin my day...
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Like I said in another thread... My YouTube video will be up soon

I keep getting nervous about rooting, because I see people who write stuff in these and phandroid's forums about peoples phones starting to act weird right after they do it. I'm also worried about how to do updates to newer versions of android, and how make sure I have my contacts backed up because my buddy did his EVO and told me he lost all hiscontacts and wasn't able to sync them with google. PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SOMEONE!

ZombiiBite said:
I keep getting nervous about rooting, because I see people who write stuff in these and phandroid's forums about peoples phones starting to act weird right after they do it. I'm also worried about how to do updates to newer versions of android, and how make sure I have my contacts backed up because my buddy did his EVO and told me he lost all hiscontacts and wasn't able to sync them with google. PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SOMEONE!
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First time owning a smartphone and first time owning an Android phone, I rooted the phone on day one, nothing bad happened. All I gained are benefits, adblock, costume roms (froyo 2.2), root explorer, voodoo, etc

Yeah, I've had it for two weeks and love it! I can only imagine how much better it'll be when I do root it. Should I just follow the tutorial on here? And then what roms does everyone suggest?

keyboard lag

Is anyone else getting lag when using the keyboard? It usually just happends when i am in the browser.

clandest said:
Is anyone else getting lag when using the keyboard? It usually just happends when i am in the browser.
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Most sites I go to seem fine but XDA in particular, the lag is always present. Not enough to bother me too much though.

True, I am mainly only experiancing it on xda. I might have to use their app.

I'm actually seeing this on a bunch of sites I frequent, this along with some other misc. slowdowns make me anxious for some OS updates... I cannot WAIT for CM and the crew to get going on this thing!
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True, I am mainly only experiancing it on xda. I might have to use their app.
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Do you have to do that on your PC...? Me either.

I am seeing a very annoying lag typing into forums like this (and others). 1-2 second lag - very frustrating!
Using the "about:debug" approach to disable OpenGL Rendering seems to address, but I am not clear what we lose in return.

I am also experiancing lag when typing in the browser. I think USAA and Netflix are the worst sites. I just got my xoom so I'm not sure how it was in the past with 3.0 but I think the browser still needs some work. The force closes in the browser are also annoying.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App

i find it worst on this site, but any site to fill in a form is crazy slow for me off and on, there seems to be no rhyme or reason. It makes editting difficult. Arrow keys would be nice. Lol
I do hve some lag on google talk but nothing like in the browser. So you're not alone

Helped reduce the lag
I disabled the Opengl rendering setting and then enabled the Normal rendering on the browser's Debug setting. Disabling the Opengl prevents the browser from properly playing the flash embedded objects though.

I have also been getting the lag on keyboard its very frustrating as its effectively reducing the productivity of a device that's designed to improve it. I am rather disgusted with Motorola for having the balls to release a device with such a fundamental flaw. I have dropped from 60 wpm to a rather disgustingly low 20 wpm! I have heard using a bluetooth keyboard negates this (can anyone confirm this) but I may aswell have purchased a laptop if I wanted a hard keyboard. I have also been having fun with the copy and paste feature when moving the cursor or actually needing to use it lol.

To fix lag follow these instructions:
Go to XDA
Scroll all the way to the bottom
Switch to XDA Classic instead of XDA 2010
Problem solved on XDA website.
As far as other forums I would imagine you could use an older version of their site.

gqstatus0685 said:
To fix lag follow these instructions:
Go to XDA
Scroll all the way to the bottom
Switch to XDA Classic instead of XDA 2010
Problem solved on XDA website.
As far as other forums I would imagine you could use an older version of their site.
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Nice fix for xda but tbh this realy shouldnt be an issue and should have been solved before they released the device to consumers

Same issue with alot of sites. Facebook does alot also. Any real fixes, dolphin, opera etc do it also , I hate this thing

eatonjb said:
Same issue with alot of sites. Facebook does alot also. Any real fixes, dolphin, opera etc do it also , I hate this thing
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I am running a ICS rom and the keyboard doesn't lag. Not a real fix since the ICS roms are not fully functional, but it should provide hope since the ICS update should fix the lag.

sonicaholic said:
Nice fix for xda but tbh this realy shouldnt be an issue and should have been solved before they released the device to consumers
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Who knows. I tan into that fix one day while messing around on the browser. I'm gqstatus0685 by the way.
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this is one of my biggest issues with android ... while we get a lot of extra freedom and other stuff, iOS users dont have to deal with this crap because if something was this bad (typing from my xoom right now) I dont think apple would allow it to leave their hands. I love my xoom, I really do, but even almost a year since release, its still not as good (in terms of everything working like it should) than my mom's ipad 2.... just very frustrating to say the least

shorty6049 said:
this is one of my biggest issues with android ... while we get a lot of extra freedom and other stuff, iOS users dont have to deal with this crap because if something was this bad (typing from my xoom right now) I dont think apple would allow it to leave their hands. I love my xoom, I really do, but even almost a year since release, its still not as good (in terms of everything working like it should) than my mom's ipad 2.... just very frustrating to say the least
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ICS is the answer. No lag. It's a beautiful thing.

Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.

AstroDigital said:
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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I'm running ICS and it has made the browser work wonders I tell you.
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AstroDigital said:
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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We don't think you're insane...we know we have the best all around Android tablet currently available.

I can't wait for ICS, but still why does it not work in 3.x.x really.

[Q] Windows Phone 7

I was wondering, now that the bootloader has been cracked, is it possible for WP7 to be installed on the Xperia X10?
**Please no "windows is crap" or "why would you want that?" stuff, I've seen my fair share.**

Who tell you that the bootloader is cracked?
It is just bypassed.
Although I dont know much about wp7,at least I know it is not linux based.
We can only run non stock kernel but noy other computer language things
Cheers,
L
Sent from my rooted FreeXperia X10

Thanks
Oh, that's disappointing. Oh well. Thanks for your help

There is a theme on market makes it like wp7
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Yeah, I've tried them but they just aren't as responsive as a real WP7 handset. 1GHz processor doesn't really mean anything when the operating system hasn't been optimised - look at iOS and how snappy it feels even on older generation devices, then look at current generation android devices like the Xperia and you really notice how much it lags. Oh, how I dream of a day when I don't need Advanced Task Killer....

maxidude44 said:
Oh, how I dream of a day when I don't need Advanced Task Killer....
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You don't need it.

ooidort said:
You don't need it.
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We still need it even in 2.3.3 in some species.
As the ram of our Xperia is very small,sometimes a kill will make the phone smoother,yes,just sometimes,killing those apps that wont restart
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laill said:
We still need it even in 2.3.3 in some species.
As the ram of our Xperia is very small,sometimes a kill will make the phone smoother,yes,just sometimes,killing those apps that wont restart
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Well you obviously don't know what you're doing.
I'm on a froyo miui rom and NEVER use it and my phone is always smooth as silk.
If you're still using one after 2.2+, you don't know what you are doing
linux/android memory management is boss
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally

fiscidtox said:
Well you obviously don't know what you're doing.
I'm on a froyo miui rom and NEVER use it and my phone is always smooth as silk.
If you're still using one after 2.2+, you don't know what you are doing
linux/android memory management is boss
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
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Perhaps I dont know what I am doing.
Insufficient ram is one of the dead flaw of our Xperia.
Even though you are using Android 2.2+,this flaw is stilo bitting our mind.
Yes,Android's memory manage sys does work.However,it has no doubt that some laggs can be experinced when such mechanism is working,I am talking about heavy use(available memory is smaller than 80mb?).
Killing some non-restart apps does make you feel smoother no matter what roms
You can see tha why wb's rom is very smooth and FAST?
Autokill is implempted in it.
Also,the definition of lag varies among people.
For me,unless the Xperia smooth lik iphone,I wont be satisfied.
Cheers
L
Ps,Ahh,tricky wp7
Sent from my rooted FreeXperia X10

laill said:
Perhaps I dont know what I am doing.
Insufficient ram is one of the dead flaw of our Xperia.
Even though you are using Android 2.2+,this flaw is stilo bitting our mind.
Yes,Android's memory manage sys does work.However,it has no doubt that some laggs can be experinced when such mechanism is working,I am talking about heavy use(available memory is smaller than 80mb?).
Killing some non-restart apps does make you feel smoother no matter what roms
You can see tha why wb's rom is very smooth and FAST?
Autokill is implempted in it.
Also,the definition of lag varies among people.
For me,unless the Xperia smooth lik iphone,I wont be satisfied.
Cheers
L
Ps,Ahh,tricky wp7
Sent from my rooted FreeXperia X10
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have you ever used a mac computer?
Just because ram isn't showing free does not mean it isn't there. It keeps apps background but using no actual ram or cpu so they can be quickly opened. If it needs the ram it is easily freed up for other things instantly.
Free ram sitting there doing nothing is actually a waste on a linux based system

fiscidtox said:
have you ever used a mac computer?
Just because ram isn't showing free does not mean it isn't there. It keeps apps background but using no actual ram or cpu so they can be quickly opened. If it needs the ram it is easily freed up for other things instantly.
Free ram sitting there doing nothing is actually a waste on a linux based system
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Of cous I have used mac,my home has one mac book pro.
I understand your point.Memory not free doesnot mean it cannt be used.
I am concerning the case that heavy use.
Even system freeze( correct me if I use this word wrong) those low priority apps,however,in such case,too much apps to be freezed will make laggy.
So,try it yourself,open msn talk pro,facebook,xda app,browser,poweramp with playing flac,dsp manager and large game(Heavy use enough?)
In the game,switch back to launcher,wow,shouls be laggy(Sys just do what it supposed to do.
Sometimes the memory manage mechainsm can not been done within in a short time,killing some non-restart may make you feel less laggy.
Compare the smoothness when the free ram is 30mb and 130 mb,give it a try
cheers,
L
Sent from my rooted FreeXperia X10

I did, I keep clicking on a bunch of stuff and I'm not getting lag....
Maybe it's the rom you are on? I'm on cob's miui and I literally never experience lag. Then again I haven't on any of the 2.2 or up roms I use. I generally always make full use of the multitasking too

maxidude44 said:
look at iOS and how snappy it feels even on older generation devices, then look at current generation android devices like the Xperia and you really notice how much it lags.
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I threw up a little bit in my mouth when I heard this. Have you used a 3g iPhone since ios4 came out? Its the slowest smartphone I have ever experience, jailbroken or not. The xperia runs circles around that. Why would you prefer no multitasking or flash over what you have currently?
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fiscidtox said:
I did, I keep clicking on a bunch of stuff and I'm not getting lag....
Maybe it's the rom you are on? I'm on cob's miui and I literally never experience lag. Then again I haven't on any of the 2.2 or up roms I use. I generally always make full use of the multitasking too
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All the 2.2,2.3 rom here have tasted by me.
Are you really sure that you have completely no lags(not even a very very tiny) when your free mem is below 30?
If so,okay,as I have mentioned,definition of lag varys amomg people><
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laill said:
All the 2.2,2.3 rom here have tasted by me.
Are you really sure that you have completely no lags(not even a very very tiny) when your free mem is below 30?
If so,okay,as I have mentioned,definition of lag varys amomg people><
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the launcher gives me no lag, maybe an app opening might take a millisecond more but thats negligible and doesn't bother me

fiscidtox said:
Well you obviously don't know what you're doing.
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
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Please do remember that I stated "**Please no "windows is crap" or "why would you want that?" stuff, I've seen my fair share.**"

I got rid of my task killer after I went on 2.2 read in another post its supposedly bad for the phone but I'm no dev so I wouldn't know. But I've had no problems without it.
Sent from my X10a using XDA Premium App

laill said:
Perhaps I dont know what I am doing.
Insufficient ram is one of the dead flaw of our Xperia.
Even though you are using Android 2.2+,this flaw is stilo bitting our mind.
Yes,Android's memory manage sys does work.However,it has no doubt that some laggs can be experinced when such mechanism is working,I am talking about heavy use(available memory is smaller than 80mb?).
Killing some non-restart apps does make you feel smoother no matter what roms
You can see tha why wb's rom is very smooth and FAST?
Autokill is implempted in it.
Also,the definition of lag varies among people.
For me,unless the Xperia smooth lik iphone,I wont be satisfied.
Cheers
L
Ps,Ahh,tricky wp7
Sent from my rooted FreeXperia X10
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It's not the RAM, it's mostly the CPU + FPS Cap that causes or x10 to be/look slow. SE hasn't put much work in our 2.1 firmware. Only 1.6 was some kind of work.

maxidude44 said:
Please do remember that I stated "**Please no "windows is crap" or "why would you want that?" stuff, I've seen my fair share.**"
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You crap all over android and say this so I'm allowed to have my say as well
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Yeah, I've tried them but they just aren't as responsive as a real WP7 handset.
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fiscidtox said:
wp7 is not responsive, it just uses long drawn out animations to cover up lag/delay. I think it sucks personally
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Isn't that windows OS run on Intel kind of CPU, what CPU is SE phone?
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Rubbish phone

I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster

So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.

welshandy2322 said:
I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
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Try the J firmware.

If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.

The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...

I've changed keyboard

I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
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The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up

There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device

Not rubbish @ all
Robin2 said:
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.

Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT

You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
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Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.

Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.

I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
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lossah said:
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
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Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Well its not me who said "lag free".

lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
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Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
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