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Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?

This would also be a good way to save battery without losing all data connectivity.
3G/EVDO uses a lot of power. If you switch this setting to CDMA only you will force the phone to only use 1x. The data rates will be slower, but acceptable enough for most notifications and light things like facebook.
CDMA - 2G/1X Slower Data greater battery life
EVDO - 3G/EVDO Higher speed data, battery hog.

Maximilian Mary said:
Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Award Tour said:
Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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I dont think it is.
I have my phone set to Home network only. doing this boosted my signal from 1 bar (-90,-100dBm) to a full signal (-65dBM) it clearly says Sprint CDMA EvDo Rev. A in connection status.
Thank you very much =D

styckx said:
Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Yep that is correct. Just tested it...
Hybrid OR CDMA only are the only options you should choose here folks.
CDMA only WILL produce battery life savings though. Your data will be slower then molasses rolling uphill in December BUT it will be sufficient for emails.
It's a very nice find either way just on that fact alone. Back in the motorola days this was a very popular battery saver mod. Disabling EVDO and forcing it to always be 1X.

styckx said:
Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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hehe.... you are correct sir... going back to old ****ty service again so i can get phone calls

The EVDO radio and CDMA radio are two different radios I believe.
When you put EVDO only you're probably seeing JUST your 3G signal which might appear stronger.
CDMA only you're seeing just your 1x/voice/sms signal.
Hybrid the signal bars I'm sure just average the two out...
That's how I "think!" it works... could be way wrong.

Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.

fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...

Also, fixxer, I know you've been having horrid battery life. I'm sure the low signal is causing this as the lower the signal the more power the radio is going to be given to try and maintain the signal.
Try CDMA only and use WiFi whenever you can (also be sure to set WiFi sleep policy to never). 1x uses significantly less power then 3G... although it's to slow to be downloading big apps or loading really complex web pages, it would however be great for general notifications. Give it a shot and let me know if it helps your battery at all!

fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Hey, it can still work as a temporary solution for some people. I'm close to saying "Dagnabbit, I don't care if I get calls. I want to listen to twit live!" GV notifications should still work, anyway.

getprop ril.MSL
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in adb shell or terminal emulator will kindly reward you with your MSL

TheDub said:
I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
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yeah, I'm doing pretty great on signal.
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Could be a prl but i still think it needs a radio. This phone is set to wcdma when it should be cdma auto prl. Hopefully we get a fix or ota soon. My battery is better today since i flashed a stock rom and kernel. Not great but better.

I gave the CDMA-only option a shot, no incoming phone calls at all. Switched instead to EVDO only, and calls seems to be coming through better in an area where I had maybe 50% success rate for incoming calls when running unmodified. I'll leave it here for awhile, so I know when someone is actually trying to call me.
This is horribly frustrating, I suffered with poor AT&T service for years for the iPhone and never thought I'd be wishing I hadn't changed carriers. I could maybe justify the shoddy call coverage if data was at least fast, but it's not. I'm giving this another week, and going for a return and possibly switching carriers again.

CDMA only setting for calls/texts paired with 4G for data seems to work pretty well.
Since EVDO only mode seems to prevent receiving calls.
True test will be when I get home, 1930's brick building that has been raising hell with calls.

fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?

wirelessness said:
Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
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and i never said i wrote it, i put it here for you guys. i did however test it for this guy early this morning. were all trying to find a temp fix until the companies get off their asses.

Help in returning my Nexus 4

Hello. Since I buy this phone the signal wile on 3G keeps dropping from 5 bars to 2,5,2,3,2 etc. It does not totally disconnects but the issue is draining my battery because is always trying to get a full signal. Plus wile gaming it gets hot and even when I'm just browsing the web only it gets hot. I want to know if is just me or this is not happening to anyone else. This phone is a week old so I am in my 15 days return.

Doesn't sound as if anything is wrong. If your hand is covering the lower portion of the phone, that is where the cell antennae are and you will see reduced bars. If you set it on a table and the bars are more consistent it is your hand that is attenuating the antenna.
It does get warm when it is working hard.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Doesn't sound as if anything is wrong. If your hand is covering the lower portion of the phone, that is where the cell antennae are and you will see reduced bars. If you set it on a table and the bars are more consistent it is your hand that is attenuating the antenna.
It does get warm when it is working hard.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Another thing is the battery. Why the battery has more Mhz than the iphone 5 but it last less?

Because Apple designs and optimizes everything, from the OS down to the CPU.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Because Apple designs and optimizes everything, from the OS down to the CPU.
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So basically there is nothing wrong with the hardware of my phone, every issue is just the os for now?

darkdhanil said:
So basically there is nothing wrong with the hardware of my phone, every issue is just the os for now?
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That is my assessment. Nothing seems out of the ordinary based on your description. I have yet to see an Android phone anywhere near as efficient with battery as a modern day iPhone.

Solutions Etcetera said:
That is my assessment. Nothing seems out of the ordinary based on your description. I have yet to see an Android phone anywhere near as efficient with battery as a modern day iPhone.
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Last Questions
Is there any workaround on the signal? Or any help with the drops? Are you getting 3 to 4 signal bars on 3G?
Thanks for your patience.
PS: Yes i notice that i put it on a table and i get full signal bars but when i grab it it start to drop. Even with a bumper on. That sucks lol.

Holding the phone higher up helps some, so that your hand does not cover the antennas at the bottom of the phone.

darkdhanil said:
Last Questions
Is there any workaround on the signal? Or any help with the drops? Are you getting 3 to 4 signal bars on 3G?
Thanks for your patience.
PS: Yes i notice that i put it on a table and i get full signal bars but when i grab it it start to drop. Even with a bumper on. That sucks lol.
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who do you use for a carrier?

s2monkey said:
who do you use for a carrier?
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Is a Puerto Rico carrier called Claro. Basically Verizon since they buy Verizon in here.

darkdhanil said:
Is a Puerto Rico carrier called Claro. Basically Verizon since they buy Verizon in here.
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have you gotten the chance to look up your carriers apn's for your area? it can help with cell reception and data speeds. i use at&t and if i dont configure my apn properly my signal and data suck haha. only 2-3mbps compared to 15-20mbps.

s2monkey said:
have you gotten the chance to look up your carriers apn's for your area? it can help with cell reception and data speeds. i use at&t and if i dont configure my apn properly my signal and data suck haha. only 2-3mbps compared to 15-20mbps.
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Yes i have set the apn and still the same. A friend came to my house with the same carrier but using an iphone 5 and he had 3 bars only and i have 5 wile untouched but 3 while grabbing it so i think it is ok then.

darkdhanil said:
Yes i have set the apn and still the same. A friend came to my house with the same carrier but using an iphone 5 and he had 3 bars only and i have 5 wile untouched but 3 while grabbing it so i think it is ok then.
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yeah could also be how far you are to the nearest cell towers, but your grip on the phone shouldn't make that much of a difference . i've also seen a free app called getril help. it makes your ril(radio interface layer) match your baseband(radio) i've used it in the past when i was playing around with different radios.
good luck dude!

s2monkey said:
yeah could also be how far you are to the nearest cell towers, but your grip on the phone shouldn't make that much of a difference . i've also seen a free app called getril help. it makes your ril(radio interface layer) match your baseband(radio) i've used it in the past when i was playing around with different radios.
good luck dude!
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The app says the ril matches. I am sending the phone back to google. I already ordered the replacement. Was thinking that maybe they fixed this internally in the new white one but i'm not taking any chances so i replaced my new black one. BTW I have 7 days with it .

ATT Note guys maybe you got last laught :)

Wife and I got a Note 3 each. Mines on T mob and hers is on ATT networks. She consistently get more signal strength than I do. Both units are on ATT. Apps show mine as approx -111 db and hers as -107db . Signal strength bars wise, she has two and I have one or zero mostly, and thats outside!

Limeybastard said:
Wife and I got a Note 3 each. Mines on T mob and hers is on ATT networks. She consistently get more signal strength than I do. Both units are on ATT. Apps show mine as approx -111 db and hers as -107db . Signal strength bars wise, she has two and I have one or zero mostly, and thats outside!
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I can't help you, sorry, but I have been following your posts for several days so I am subscribing to see what you are able to find out. Good luck buddy!

This is one of the main things that concerns me about running t mobile version on ATT. It may technically work, but is it optimized for their network? I would like the fully unlocked bootloader, but not at the expense of phone funtionality.
And to that end, does visual voicemail work with the T Mobile phone? Just curious.
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drmacrofish said:
This is one of the main things that concerns me about running t mobile version on ATT. It may technically work, but is it optimized for their network? I would like the fully unlocked bootloader, but not at the expense of phone funtionality.
And to that end, does visual voicemail work with the T Mobile phone? Just curious.
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You mention the word "optimized" in vocabulary this means nothing until now. So perhaps, you have a point. We shall see. Generally speaking I go by whatis on the "box" if frequency is the same and then some then its good to go. I guess we shall see....:good:

GrandMasterB said:
I can't help you, sorry, but I have been following your posts for several days so I am subscribing to see what you are able to find out. Good luck buddy!
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Please do. I don't mind sacrificing my self for the majority LOL. Too many variables as my unit maybe within certain tolerences of Sam"soog". Hence why I posted here.

You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.

This should be expected, until maybe both phones using the same exact modem. At that point the comparison should be closer but even if you had purchased 2 att n3 and 1 was made from date xx/xx/xx and 2 xx/xx/xx the results might still vary.

Also the csc stuff that happens on first boot seems to be relevant for data speed.. don't give up your hopes yet
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Also the csc stuff that happens on first boot seems to be relevant for data speed.. don't give up your hopes yet
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What about radio? I dont have the T mob device only att but is it the same radio?
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I have had similar experience to the OP in the pass with an HTC HD2 and that was the last time I bought a Tmobile phone to use on AT&T. AT the time what I experienced was AT&T given data priority to their own phones vs. imported or other network phones. According to the 3rd level tech I spoke with during my issues, If you bring a non-AT&T IMEI on their network, they will give it the lowest priority on their network. The device will work but it won't work as good as the AT&T device. The device show up on your account as a unknown phone. It was true back then I am not sure if it is true now. But given the circumstances with the lock bootloader, I would not surprise if AT&T was up to the same old trick but using the different technology or methods.
Keep in mind AT&T has nothing to lose by making sure their phones perform much better on their network. The Note 3 just hit market and the truth will come out soon or later. At this point I am going to stick with AT&T Note 3 and wait for the dust to settle a bit.

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You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
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Agreed. My tests thus far are amatuerish at the best, we'll see...

KosanRio said:
You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
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I'm assuming he's with his wife and not at some gentleman's club
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Ran same more amateur radio testing side by side with wife's note 3. This time it was in the bedroom. LOL. Her db figures were higher slightly but showed two bars where as mine showed one bar.
I'm thinking the AT&T phone is set to display signal better.
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Limeybastard said:
Ran same more amateur radio testing side by side with wife's note 3. This time it was in the bedroom. LOL. Her db figures were higher slightly but showed two bars where as mine showed one bar.
I'm thinking the AT&T phone is set to display signal better.
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you are correct. the at&t displays a better signal when in reality, the differences between the two versions are insignificant.
I remember comparing the htc one developer edition to the at&t htc one and observing similar conclusions.

You are definitely right about priority on the network. That is still true today.
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By priority, I presume you guys mean when there is congestion?
With all those who are running T-Mo on ATT, I presume this would become prevalent during peak times or heavy congestion?
I think a good test would be a side-by-side ATT/T-Mo during peak hours to see if the ATT gets faster data...
At the same time, the SIM is an ATT SIM, which is an ATT account. I just wonder how the switch makes the decisions if in fact it prioritizes: Is it based on hardware IMEI or foreign accounts (roaming)?

I'm not sure how it's prioritized. But it would be in times of congestion. I can't explain how he gets less service than his wife.
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Lets not forget that AT&T fakes signal as well. Its been known when you run an AT&T ROM over a 3rd party ROM. Just some food for thought.

It may fake the bars but it can't fake the dB. That's the issue with the OP.
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It may fake the bars but it can't fake the dB. That's the issue with the OP.
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Completely agree there
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You are definitely right about priority on the network. That is still true today.
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If that is still the case then I will need a much better case to go out and buy other network phones to use on AT&T's network. My experience was pretty bad with the HTC HD2 during that time.
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By priority, I presume you guys mean when there is congestion?
With all those who are running T-Mo on ATT, I presume this would become prevalent during peak times or heavy congestion?
I think a good test would be a side-by-side ATT/T-Mo during peak hours to see if the ATT gets faster data...
At the same time, the SIM is an ATT SIM, which is an ATT account. I just wonder how the switch makes the decisions if in fact it prioritizes: Is it based on hardware IMEI or foreign accounts (roaming)?
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I believe one of the triggers was the IMEI because AT&T already have database of all the AT&T IMEI. When your IMEI does not match on their database, they normally don't know what kind of device you have. Essentially the network look at you as a step child and put you in the not an AT&T device bucket. I would presume if would definitely take effect during peak congestion time but I think it also play a role in other scenarios too. Again I am speculating on these scenarios but I recall my experience was not good. This was around the time where we did not have any LTE available. Either way, time will tell how they foreign devices with LTE on their network.

Essential

Does the Essential have strong cell radios? Does it work well on T-Mobile?
Thank You
Vinny [emoji631]

vinnyjr said:
Does the Essential have strong cell radios? Does it work well on T-Mobile?
Thank You
Vinny [emoji631]
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Fine on T-Mobile.
I only used mine on T-Mobile for a short period of time. Not sure about signal strength because I had nothing to compare.

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Does the Essential have strong cell radios? Does it work well on T-Mobile?
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Check this forum to get more info. My brother is with T-Mobile and he told me he got very good signal/reception most of the time on LTE plus.
But location plays a big part of the signal and reception.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/tmobile-signal-strength-issues-t3665999

Hi i hate T-mobile USA & the phone is all over the place losing LTE signal does anyone have any suggestions on the APN settings?

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Does the Essential have strong cell radios? Does it work well on T-Mobile?
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T-Mobile on the Essential phone is terrible in the N.Y.C. area. Same sim card in my Nexus 6P or G5 and I get much better results. It's definitely the phone .

essential paper weight?

so despite the warnings of signal issues with this phone I happen to pick one up for $50 off of eBay. I'm assuming that is a hardware issue with the signal and not a software issue. did I just pick myself up a $50 paper weight or is there any fixes for it? It is unlocked and I can root of there is a way to fix it

weirdfate said:
so despite the warnings of signal issues with this phone I happen to pick one up for $50 off of eBay. I'm assuming that is a hardware issue with the signal and not a software issue. did I just pick myself up a $50 paper weight or is there any fixes for it? It is unlocked and I can root of there is a way to fix it
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Fix what?
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avd said:
Fix what?
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The crappy reception on this phone

That is a feature for married men
weirdfate said:
The crappy reception on this phone
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play with APN settings . Is it a Model intended to be used by a certain carrier? There are you all the normal trouble shooting steps to that kinda issue.

litmus4to said:
play with APN settings . Is it a Model intended to be used by a certain carrier? There are you all the normal trouble shooting steps to that kinda issue.
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I was told it was unlocked. Not sure what to put in other than the carrier recommend APN settings. It has service but it's far worse than on any other device I've used

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I was told it was unlocked. Not sure what to put in other than the carrier recommend APN settings. It has service but it's far worse than on any other device I've used
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Essential PH-1 is known a device with weaker cell signal compare to other phones. However, to me, it's usable. Depending on what carrier and location you are, it might not the same as other people. I heard lots of people in Tmobile complained about signal problem. But with Verizon and AT&T (myself), I don't have any issue at all. Specially after Android 10 upgrade, I feel like the reception got better.
I'm not sure your device condition, but my suggestion is to restore stock ROM, put latest Android version, keep everything as default for few days and monitor its performance.
Good luck with debugging process.

I think i can help
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I was told it was unlocked. Not sure what to put in other than the carrier recommend APN settings. It has service but it's far worse than on any other device I've used
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Unlocked can be any and all carriers ..I assume it is setup to work with most all of them. If you need someone to walk you through setting it up and hopefully getting a good signal im me and ill help you out.

litmus4to said:
Unlocked can be any and all carriers ..I assume it is setup to work with most all of them. If you need someone to walk you through setting it up and hopefully getting a good signal im me and ill help you out.
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Thank you for the offer but I put the phone back up on eBay. Couldn’t take it with the signal issues. I’m turning a profit so it’s not a bad thing for me any how