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Unlocking question- so sick of ATT

I really want to get one of these G2 phones. Att's phones are horrible and their service is going down hill as well.
THe only problem is their coverage in my area is far superior to TMO.
When the G2 is able to be unlocked how would popping a prepaid sim card in the G2 work?
Would the G2 all of a sudden be able to use all of the ATT network with only limitation being edge only? Or would I have to configure the phone to use ATTs data and or voice?
I'd like to just tape the pre-paid sim to the inside battery case and pop it in when needed, but if it's time consuming to make the swap I might reconsider.

I don't think the G2 supports AT&T's 3G bands, so while it will work you won't have any fast data. Why not just get an iPhone4? Granted it has iOS, but the hardware is better than anything Android. Having said that I still bought a G2 because I hate AT&T.

krayshunist said:
I don't think the G2 supports AT&T's 3G bands, so while it will work you won't have any fast data. Why not just get an iPhone4? Granted it has iOS, but the hardware is better than anything Android. Having said that I still bought a G2 because I hate AT&T.
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Thanks. I'm aware that I won't have 3G- that's not a problem since I'll only use the ATT sim card when I leave the city- not much.
That's why I ask if it's as simple as popping in the ATT sim card and being able to get SMS/MMS/Data etc without having to change a bunch of settings?
I'd just forward my TMO number to the ATT sim.

pdxrealtor said:
I'd just forward my TMO number to the ATT sim.
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By this, I take it you mean to pay for 2 accounts? The only way you will have a TMo number is if you have service with them.
As for the settings, you could probably do it with an ATT sim if the radio bands overlap. As others have mentioned, you'll be limited to edge speeds at best, so it's probably a real bad idea.
Honestly, AT&T's network is pretty bad these days. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than Tmo.

HamNCheese said:
By this, I take it you mean to pay for 2 accounts? The only way you will have a TMo number is if you have service with them.
As for the settings, you could probably do it with an ATT sim if the radio bands overlap. As others have mentioned, you'll be limited to edge speeds at best, so it's probably a real bad idea.
Honestly, AT&T's network is pretty bad these days. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than Tmo.
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When I leave town i hit edge speeds on ATT anyways so what's the diff??
I would have a primary TMO line and a pre-paid ATT sim with access to data for when I hit the few spots that TMO doesn't cover.
I simply want to know if you have to mess with data settings to get data while switching between phones.

Once you swap SIM cards the phone should pick up the network automatically, but is it really worth it to swap sim cards (which includes shutting the phone down, removing battery, replacing card, putting battery back in, starting up phone, as I'm sure you know) just to get service out in the middle of nowhere? I mean I understand the need to be always connected, but is it really worth it?

No you don't have to do any switching. Just initial setup. You have to acquire an unlock code from t-mobile so your ATT sim works on it. Once you do that you can do voice calls. You need to add the APN for ATT in the network settings.
The APN which stands for Access Point Name is basically a collection of settings and variables to allow the phone to connect to the data network.
Since the G2 will already have the T-Mobile settings you just need to get the settings for ATT from ATT, unless you google it.
Hope i helped.

elmejor183 said:
No you don't have to do any switching.
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Just so nobody gets confused. Of course you have to switch the sim card, but apart from that nothing else.

LOOK AT THE SIGNATURE LINE! YA BABY!
I plan on using the att card when I know ill be in a remote area without TMO voice or data for extended periods. Long drive, the beach, the mountain, camping etc. I wouldnt switch in a situation that only warranted the need to do a quick switch.
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elmejor183 said:
No you don't have to do any switching. Just initial setup. You have to acquire an unlock code from t-mobile so your ATT sim works on it. Once you do that you can do voice calls. You need to add the APN for ATT in the network settings.
The APN which stands for Access Point Name is basically a collection of settings and variables to allow the phone to connect to the data network.
Since the G2 will already have the T-Mobile settings you just need to get the settings for ATT from ATT, unless you google it.
Hope i helped.
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Must have missed your post. Yes you answered my question. Thanks!
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Another question on this issue-
When I know I'll be out of TMO range for day or whatever and I forward my TMO number to my prepaid ATT sim card will txt/mms sent to the TMO number forward over to the ATT number??

If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks

Unlock me!

rhcp0112345 said:
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
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Already got mine unlock, but the cell won't pick up or register to any network something really wrong with this phone. Now I can't use my phone even with T-Mo sim. A lot of user oversea suffer from this issue, Bewarn.

bluemoko said:
Already got mine unlock, but the cell won't pick up or register to any network something really wrong with this phone. Now I can't use my phone even with T-Mo sim. A lot of user oversea suffer from this issue, Bewarn.
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Sounds like BS. How did you even unlock it? You may have had someone hack it up or bought it unlocked.

rhcp0112345 said:
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
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FYI- just like I pm'd you-
I just called T-MOBLIE and they are sending an unlock code within 24 hours.
Why would anyone pay 40.00? I guess you could call it the penalty fee for not using a search button. LOL

T-mo wifi calling?

Wondering if the device will support t-mo's wifi calling app. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me.****ty coverage where I am and I need it. I would buy the one from the play store, but the issue is if it's an app it may be firmware specific to the T-mo sold one maybe? I'm not sure how it'll work but has anyone heard anything? Really wanna get this launch day

I don't know about the Nexus 4 or t-mo's wifi calling but I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 WiFi only to make calls using GrooVe IP Lite for free it should work with an unlocked Nexas 4 also I would think without even having a regular phone connection like t-mobile.

miker525 said:
Wondering if the device will support t-mo's wifi calling app. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me.****ty coverage where I am and I need it. I would buy the one from the play store, but the issue is if it's an app it may be firmware specific to the T-mo sold one maybe? I'm not sure how it'll work but has anyone heard anything? Really wanna get this launch day
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Until now the T-Mobile WiFi Calling app required a radio/kernel combination that maybe only the T-Mobile version might have … Having said that since both would be pretty similar after getting kernel source from both it could be ported later on the near future … Unless T-Mobile its not planning on supporting it OR goes the Skype route and re-writes the app all together …..

donec said:
I don't know about the Nexus 4 or t-mo's wifi calling but I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 WiFi only to make calls using GrooVe IP Lite for free it should work with an unlocked Nexas 4 also I would think without even having a regular phone connection like t-mobile.
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Agreed. Use groove ip.
Hit me up on Gtalk if u need help @musclehead84

Nope this isn't going to happen. Nexus devices don't come preloaded with any additional software and/or features.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

If it has the hardware compatibility then it could simply be enabled via an app on the play store. I have also read it dependent on the kernel so maybe its something the t-mobile version would be including with their own nexus 4's and the app download would activate it. Which means some XDA hackery and a kernel flash could remedy all the play store purchasers on T-mobile. Here to hoping. Overall though based on the Nexus privy, its not likely.

watermoore said:
If it has the hardware compatibility then it could simply be enabled via an app on the play store. I have also read it dependent on the kernel so maybe its something the t-mobile version would be including with their own nexus 4's and the app download would activate it. Which means some XDA hackery and a kernel flash could remedy all the play store purchasers on T-mobile. Here to hoping. Overall though based on the Nexus privy, its not likely.
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T-Mobile's version is NOT modified at all, in any way, zero, nothing. They will hand you an identical device that someone who ordered through the Play Store will get.

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
According to tmonews, as expected there won't be wifi calling

There won't be wifi calling, and this is a good thing. If they allowed T-mobile to tweak the firmware, and add their own bloatware, this would no longer be a Nexus device!

rmkilc said:
There won't be wifi calling, and this is a good thing. If they allowed T-mobile to tweak the firmware, and add their own bloatware, this would no longer be a Nexus device!
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Disagree.... would be nice if we could at least download WifiCalling from Market... I've made infrequent use of WifiCalling on my Sensation4G.. but the times I did use it, it was a significant help. I care more about this than SD slot or removable battery. Hopefully it is something which some DEV can get to work (once there is a TMo phone with JB version.

zim2dive said:
Disagree.... would be nice if we could at least download WifiCalling from Market... I've made infrequent use of WifiCalling on my Sensation4G.. but the times I did use it, it was a significant help. I care more about this than SD slot or removable battery. Hopefully it is something which some DEV can get to work (once there is a TMo phone with JB version.
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Sounds more like you agree. Yeah if T-Mobile could make something you download from Google Play that enables wifi calling, that would be great. Love it or hate it, it's not going to be baked into the ROM. Google learned from letting Verizon have control over their Galaxy Nexus.

unfortunately seems right. With the question I didn't mean if tmo would modify the phone, I love nexus because there free of ****wear, but the wifi calling app is something I'd still have loved to see. Was hoping they'd bring to play store or something. Now I'm really at an impass though. At college with not much coverage and wanted this phone bad, but without wifi calling using the phone may be somewhat of an issue. Yeah I could use GrooVip but I'm not sure if that's really good enough. Maybe I'll give it a go. If it sucks I can switch to att at the end of my contract and use the same device to hopefully get service.

miker525 said:
unfortunately seems right. With the question I didn't mean if tmo would modify the phone, I love nexus because there free of ****wear, but the wifi calling app is something I'd still have loved to see. Was hoping they'd bring to play store or something. Now I'm really at an impass though. At college with not much coverage and wanted this phone bad, but without wifi calling using the phone may be somewhat of an issue. Yeah I could use GrooVip but I'm not sure if that's really good enough. Maybe I'll give it a go. If it sucks I can switch to att at the end of my contract and use the same device to hopefully get service.
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GRoove sucks, there is a delay that you can't get rid of. Okay in a pinch but not worthy of real use

T-Mo fail!!!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/

Lucke said:
T-Mo fail!!!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/psa-sorry-everyone-no-wi-fi-calling-on-the-nexus-4/
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How is that a T-Mobile fail?

rmkilc said:
How is that a T-Mobile fail?
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apparently, T-Mo is taking a functionality away from their own store bought phones, as opposed to the Google Play Store purchased phones. That is a fail (along with the pricing debacle, ie, paying more to be locked into a contract).
but i don't have T-Mo, so i don't really care :victory:
*EDIT* and apparently i jumped the gun and am completely wrong about this whole situation... oops

Lucke said:
apparently, T-Mo is taking a functionality away from their own store bought phones, as opposed to the Google Play Store purchased phones. That is a fail (along with the pricing debacle, ie, paying more to be locked into a contract).
but i don't have T-Mo, so i don't really care :victory:
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It is not a fail. They are selling a Nexus device. Nexus devices are pure Android, no added carrier bloatware.

No wifi calling is a deal killer for me.
It is not something that could ever be downloaded from the play store because of the way it works. It needs to interface with the radio at a low level. If TMO doesnt do it, it will never be added to the phone.
This is not a piece of "bloatware" for TMO users. This is a very very useful function which cannot technically be done any other way. An exception should have been made.

bradsh1 said:
No wifi calling is a deal killer for me.
It is not something that could ever be downloaded from the play store because of the way it works. It needs to interface with the radio at a low level. If TMO doesnt do it, it will never be added to the phone.
This is not a piece of "bloatware" for TMO users. This is a very very useful function which cannot technically be done any other way. An exception should have been made.
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You are under the assumption "bloatware" = "something bad". Some bloatware can be good, or useful. If you need TMO's wifi calling feature, a Nexus device is not for you. Get a Galaxy S III or something that T-Mobile was able to get their hands on the software and add their own here it comes-bloatware!

Argh.. yes I forgot... I do use WiFi calling in buildings sometimes.. the reception is so bad on the cell radio, its the only way to get calls sometimes... this is not a trivial thing to lose

Help in returning my Nexus 4

Hello. Since I buy this phone the signal wile on 3G keeps dropping from 5 bars to 2,5,2,3,2 etc. It does not totally disconnects but the issue is draining my battery because is always trying to get a full signal. Plus wile gaming it gets hot and even when I'm just browsing the web only it gets hot. I want to know if is just me or this is not happening to anyone else. This phone is a week old so I am in my 15 days return.

Doesn't sound as if anything is wrong. If your hand is covering the lower portion of the phone, that is where the cell antennae are and you will see reduced bars. If you set it on a table and the bars are more consistent it is your hand that is attenuating the antenna.
It does get warm when it is working hard.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Doesn't sound as if anything is wrong. If your hand is covering the lower portion of the phone, that is where the cell antennae are and you will see reduced bars. If you set it on a table and the bars are more consistent it is your hand that is attenuating the antenna.
It does get warm when it is working hard.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Another thing is the battery. Why the battery has more Mhz than the iphone 5 but it last less?

Because Apple designs and optimizes everything, from the OS down to the CPU.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Because Apple designs and optimizes everything, from the OS down to the CPU.
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So basically there is nothing wrong with the hardware of my phone, every issue is just the os for now?

darkdhanil said:
So basically there is nothing wrong with the hardware of my phone, every issue is just the os for now?
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That is my assessment. Nothing seems out of the ordinary based on your description. I have yet to see an Android phone anywhere near as efficient with battery as a modern day iPhone.

Solutions Etcetera said:
That is my assessment. Nothing seems out of the ordinary based on your description. I have yet to see an Android phone anywhere near as efficient with battery as a modern day iPhone.
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Last Questions
Is there any workaround on the signal? Or any help with the drops? Are you getting 3 to 4 signal bars on 3G?
Thanks for your patience.
PS: Yes i notice that i put it on a table and i get full signal bars but when i grab it it start to drop. Even with a bumper on. That sucks lol.

Holding the phone higher up helps some, so that your hand does not cover the antennas at the bottom of the phone.

darkdhanil said:
Last Questions
Is there any workaround on the signal? Or any help with the drops? Are you getting 3 to 4 signal bars on 3G?
Thanks for your patience.
PS: Yes i notice that i put it on a table and i get full signal bars but when i grab it it start to drop. Even with a bumper on. That sucks lol.
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who do you use for a carrier?

s2monkey said:
who do you use for a carrier?
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Is a Puerto Rico carrier called Claro. Basically Verizon since they buy Verizon in here.

darkdhanil said:
Is a Puerto Rico carrier called Claro. Basically Verizon since they buy Verizon in here.
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have you gotten the chance to look up your carriers apn's for your area? it can help with cell reception and data speeds. i use at&t and if i dont configure my apn properly my signal and data suck haha. only 2-3mbps compared to 15-20mbps.

s2monkey said:
have you gotten the chance to look up your carriers apn's for your area? it can help with cell reception and data speeds. i use at&t and if i dont configure my apn properly my signal and data suck haha. only 2-3mbps compared to 15-20mbps.
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Yes i have set the apn and still the same. A friend came to my house with the same carrier but using an iphone 5 and he had 3 bars only and i have 5 wile untouched but 3 while grabbing it so i think it is ok then.

darkdhanil said:
Yes i have set the apn and still the same. A friend came to my house with the same carrier but using an iphone 5 and he had 3 bars only and i have 5 wile untouched but 3 while grabbing it so i think it is ok then.
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yeah could also be how far you are to the nearest cell towers, but your grip on the phone shouldn't make that much of a difference . i've also seen a free app called getril help. it makes your ril(radio interface layer) match your baseband(radio) i've used it in the past when i was playing around with different radios.
good luck dude!

s2monkey said:
yeah could also be how far you are to the nearest cell towers, but your grip on the phone shouldn't make that much of a difference . i've also seen a free app called getril help. it makes your ril(radio interface layer) match your baseband(radio) i've used it in the past when i was playing around with different radios.
good luck dude!
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The app says the ril matches. I am sending the phone back to google. I already ordered the replacement. Was thinking that maybe they fixed this internally in the new white one but i'm not taking any chances so i replaced my new black one. BTW I have 7 days with it .

Cricket Wireless - Is the network down (maybe) ?

I haven't had service to my nexus 6p for almost three weeks, but I was able to pay for re-establishing service sometime around 1:28am on a whim that I might of got paid. This is when the problems started...LTE kept coming in and out very rapidly, I rebooted twice - did not work, so I figured maybe something was corrupt so I fastbooted N4F26J, N4F26O, NBD91K....26J-260 kept bootlooping. It went past the google animation screen, so I know I wasn't getting the BLOD I've heard everyone mentioning. Right now my phone is working, but I remembered I had saved NRD91U from that one time I decided to use Squabbi's Toolkit. I am now successfully booting, but now data is not working - just like before. I checked online to see if maybe Cricket had a network down issue and a lot of reports were coming in that people were having issues. I'm checking to see if a radio - mobile data issue could ever cause me so many issues. I think ill wait until the morning to figure out what the hell is going on, but I seriously doubt it's an issue with the phone as much as it is an issue with Cricket's network. Let me know if any you other cricket users have had issues too.

jxcorex28 said:
I haven't had service to my nexus 6p for almost three weeks, but I was able to pay for re-establishing service sometime around 1:28am on a whim that I might of got paid. This is when the problems started...LTE kept coming in and out very rapidly, I rebooted twice - did not work, so I figured maybe something was corrupt so I fastbooted N4F26J, N4F26O, NBD91K....26J-260 kept bootlooping. It went past the google animation screen, so I know I wasn't getting the BLOD I've heard everyone mentioning. Right now my phone is working, but I remembered I had saved NRD91U from that one time I decided to use Squabbi's Toolkit. I am now successfully booting, but now data is not working - just like before. I checked online to see if maybe Cricket had a network down issue and a lot of reports were coming in that people were having issues. I'm checking to see if a radio - mobile data issue could ever cause me so many issues. I think ill wait until the morning to figure out what the hell is going on, but I seriously doubt it's an issue with the phone as much as it is an issue with Cricket's network. Let me know if any you other cricket users have had issues too.
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You're running a really old build. I'm a Cricket customer and my phone is working fine. Does your phone boot loop when you try flashing the latest build? Are you flashing the full stock image or trying to flash OTAs?

I have cricket I'm on the latest 8.0 and have major connectivity issues I lose signal and have to reboot constantly. As well. IDK what to do anymore

Anyone else having this issue?

sexcytyme said:
Anyone else having this issue?
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.....No. Maybe time to look at a different carrier? <Chirp Chirp>

sexcytyme said:
I have cricket I'm on the latest 8.0 and have major connectivity issues I lose signal and have to reboot constantly. As well. IDK what to do anymore
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Cricket is working fine for me on all of the 8.0 roms that I have tried.

v12xke said:
.....No. Maybe time to look at a different carrier? <Chirp Chirp>
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I have no issues in my S7 edge, my wife's TMobile variant unlocked LG V10 is fast, and my son's ****ty ass LG power x runs data circles around my Nexus. Can't be the network

bmwkeith said:
Cricket is working fine for me on all of the 8.0 roms that I have tried.
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Would you mind sharing your apn settings with me?

sexcytyme said:
Would you mind sharing your apn settings with me?
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https://www.cricketwireless.com/sup...ice-byod/customer/bring-your-own-android.html

bmwkeith said:
https://www.cricketwireless.com/sup...ice-byod/customer/bring-your-own-android.html
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I had those they didn't work they are also different from the ones on my S7 which I tried and don't work either. Though u might have had something different making it work.

sexcytyme said:
I had those they didn't work they are also different from the ones on my S7 which I tried and don't work either. Though u might have had something different making it work.
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Not sure what is happening, but I checked my phone again and those are my settings and Cricket works fine in Fort Wayne, IN at least.

Try proxy.mobile.att.net and http://mmsc.mobile.att.net

idbl_fanatic said:
Try proxy.mobile.att.net and http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
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I will test this out it's working right now but I'm in hspa. It can't be the network cuz my S7 edge is sitting side by side and I have LTE with about 8gb down and the Nexus is pulling under 1gb on hspa. I'm getting frustrated. Gonna try a TMobile sim tomorrow and see if it performs different

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Try proxy.mobile.att.net and http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
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It worked! I haven't experienced any drops and speeds are a lot better. Thanks bro

sexcytyme said:
It worked! I haven't experienced any drops and speeds are a lot better. Thanks bro
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Great! I found this while trying to get my MMS to send while on WiFi

Is there a way to get tethering working without root on cricket wireless?

kinggame992000 said:
Is there a way to get tethering working without root on cricket wireless?
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For free? Not really. Get a phone that will tether without checking entitlement. If you want to pay all you need is to borrow a cricket branded phone that supports tethering, put your SIM card in it, turn the phone on and let it register, add the tethering feature to your line, then put the SIM back into your regular phone. It will continue to work as long as you don't make any changes to your account. I don't know why they only allow you to sign up with certain phones, I guess it saves them on troubleshooting costs.

So I ended up ditching my 6p and got a Pixel XL. It was fun but I kept having connection issues and have zero issues with the pixel so far and I've been using it now for 3 days . Same areas I'd get drop in connection and data service my pixel is still blazing fast.

Unlocked S8 switch to Verizon - Wireless signal

I have an SM-G950U1 that I switched from AT&T to Verizon today. My wireless signal strength appears to be MUCH worse at my house on Verizon than I was seeing on AT&T. In addition, I'm seeing much better signal strength on my wife's iPhone 8. Finally, I'm seeing much higher battery drain... likely due to the signal strength. My question is whether there is something that I might want to do in terms of settings/changes that might help me here?
Thanks,
Craig

csetera said:
I have an SM-G950U1 that I switched from AT&T to Verizon today. My wireless signal strength appears to be MUCH worse at my house on Verizon than I was seeing on AT&T. In addition, I'm seeing much better signal strength on my wife's iPhone 8. Finally, I'm seeing much higher battery drain... likely due to the signal strength. My question is whether there is something that I might want to do in terms of settings/changes that might help me here?
Thanks,
Craig
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possibly switch it to global mode but its the same at my house att has the best signal all the other carriers non att drain battery here
you might ask verizon for one of the micro cells or something

TheMadScientist said:
possibly switch it to global mode but its the same at my house att has the best signal all the other carriers non att drain battery here
you might ask verizon for one of the micro cells or something
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Do they do that for free or is it something that I would need to pay for?
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csetera said:
Do they do that for free or is it something that I would need to pay for?
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I dont know for sure I think its offered to customers
i actually use Xfinity which piggy backs on verizon towers

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csetera said:
Do they do that for free or is it something that I would need to pay for?
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It's right here in Mobile network settings

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It's right here in Mobile network settings
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Yes. I have it set to Global. I've tried a couple of those settings and it doesn't seem to matter. Thanks for the pointer.

csetera said:
Yes. I have it set to Global. I've tried a couple of those settings and it doesn't seem to matter. Thanks for the pointer.
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I would recomend the signal booster then

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I would recomend the signal booster then
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I spent some time with support today. It turns out that LTE/CDMA actually seems to work better in general. However, I still have terrible signal in the house. Are there any cheaper options than the $250 signal booster that actually work?
In addition, they suggested that a factory reset might help. I'm pretty skeptical that that would make any difference with the same firmware. Can anyone comment? I'm willing to do it (when I'm back from my upcoming trip), but only if it is worth the effort. Another option would be to switch to the Verizon version of the firmware, but I'd rather avoid the bloatware if it isn't going to help out.
Thanks again,
Craig