https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/amp/
Well, it's where Google itself is going.
I like how your poll doesn't have yes as an option. Are you that much of a crybaby? It's a private company. You may not like it, but it's not your choice.
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I like how your poll doesn't have yes as an option. Are you that much of a crybaby? It's a private company. You may not like it, but it's not your choice.
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Yeah but no one will buy their product due to the non root capability.
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I like how your poll doesn't have yes as an option. Are you that much of a crybaby? It's a private company. You may not like it, but it's not your choice.
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What do you mean it's not my choice? I have the choice of buying their product or not, and call me whatever you want but the intention of the poll is to show how many people dislike the decision, maybe you can see it for yourself
Let's all calm down a bit. This news is unfortunate to hear.
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What do you mean it's not my choice? I have the choice of buying their product or not, and call me whatever you want but the intention of the poll is to show how many people dislike the decision, maybe you can see it for yourself
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Didn't say you couldn't buy or not buy one of their phones lol. The intention of your poll is to be a **** because you're upset. The fact is only a tiny fraction that buy phones unlock the bootloader and it's simply not cost effective. This is Huawei. The number ONE leader in the world for smartphones and you think a few people are going to sway them? Get over yourself. You sign their ToS when you set up THEIR phone. But hey, if you don't like something I guess instead of being an adult and moving on you should complain like a spoiled brat because you think you're special.
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Yeah but no one will buy their product due to the non root capability.
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Look man I can guarantee you that removing the ability to unlock the bootloader isn't going to harm Huawei/Honor's business one bit. They may lose about 500-1000 or even 2000 customers but that's nothing compared to their 40+ million customers. They're doing this claiming it is for ensuring that data isn't stolen and the system will continue preforming well. The ordinary Android user will think oh wow they're enhancing security, Huawei is great!
Take Nokia for example. They haven't bothered with enabling bootloader unlocking on several of their models and yet they sell like hotcakes in India.
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Huawei still makes one of the cheapest phones compared to their capabilities and there are unofficial (paid, but still cheap) ways to unlock the bootloader. I don't approve their decision, but it won't affect my decision when changing the phone. Not to mention devs will most probably find a way to omit the bootloader lock some way, just like they did with LG's G2, which is one of the most legendary phone on XDA. As long as they're releasing Oreo, I'm okay with this.
BTW - this is one of the most non-informative title of the thread I have ever seen, most forums would ban for such a thing.
Huawei doesn't care about what people think. If 50 people on XDA say they're not happy and will never buy Huawei again I guarantee you there are 500 new customers lined up and ready to buy one.
Is there anyone here who bough a Huawei device for it's wonderful modding capabilities?
Tel864 said:
Huawei doesn't care about what people think. If 50 people on XDA say they're not happy and will never buy Huawei again I guarantee you there are 500 new customers lined up and ready to buy one.
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Is there anyone here who bough a Huawei device for it's wonderful modding capabilities?
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I definitely don't understand what the xda/honor """partnership""" is about if Huawei prevents bootloader unlocking from now on.
pix106 said:
I definitely don't understand what the xda/honor """partnership""" is about if Huawei prevents bootloader unlocking from now on.
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Same here dude..infact I got the Honor 8 early last year thinking that the partnership will bring about a lot opportunities in new Rom development
But frankly disappointed.. don't see any help with the partnership from the outside
I think that "partnership" lasted about 1 day.
Check out OnePlus rom development without partnership...
I have downloaded my code before they'll stop the unlock service forever
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I have downloaded my code before they'll stop the unlock service forever
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Can i do this now?
I have 55 days yet. Ufff.
Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
ScardracS said:
I have downloaded my code before they'll stop the unlock service forever
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Hey, could you please explain how to do it so I could do that as well?
Blackherted said:
Hey, could you please explain how to do it so I could do that as well?
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Follow the bootloader unlocking guide.
Here's the link https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-tested-root-t3443946
Related
After the release of the wildfire it took a unusual amount of time to root and now the hboot has been changed to prevent rooting I ask the question why the consumer should have the right to run roms that suits them best I refer to geohotz jailbreak with the iPhone
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To sell newer products, thats why.
Alex_GP said:
To sell newer products, thats why.
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yeah i agree, they want to sell you newer devices with new android versions. they must also be pretty mad about the hacked app markets
Its the solemn duty p) of a company to protect its products. No product I believe has a weak security system, and, its always a cat and mouse game between the devs and the company devs. Be it iOS, Symbian, Game Consoles.. etc.
No one likes to see their product "hacked" and to be used in a manner better than it was intended to.
As far as I know the Nokia N900 and LiMo devices are very open to hacking, very much unlike Android, webOS and iOS phones.
Why would anyone protect their properties
Also maybe cos they were planning for Gingerbread release on the Wildfire, and by then they want all devices to be hackproof or something.. jus maybe..
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
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To sell newer products, thats why.
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
I'll give you a reason.. It's because their support teams couldn't cope with the amount of idiots they'd get phoning them saying that their phone wasn't working anymore after they'd made a complete bodge of modding it.. Just like the guy above said..
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Anyone who posts a reason other than this is very naive.
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Exactly, their cash flows in from the devices they sell. If they support old products, they won`t sell new devices, so no cash.
Skye Menjou said:
It's to keep idiots out.
Look around the forum and look at the amount of "OMG I BRICKD DAT WILDFIRE CUZ I FLASHED TEH ROMS PLZ HALP" posts.
Apple always try to find a way against jailbreaking aswell.
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Fair point.
but they knows that if device is such superb, someone sometime find the way to get in...
its all about offer and demand..
and yes - every year new toy.. forget to previous and go forward...
thats the consume way of life.
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To sell newer products, thats why.
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I think so...
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Fair point.
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Second that.
People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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People really ought to make sure they know what they are a\doing before they start messing around with technology and if they don't then they should leave it, the amount of posts i've seen on here about bricked wildfires is unreal
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But if they wouldn't lock the wildfire, the chance of getting your device bricked will be lower in my oppinion. The chance that a procedure fails is directly correlated with the amount of steps, and just because the phone is that locked, people have to do 1. a multitude of steps that 2. don't use software of the phone in the way its develloped to be used -> chance to brick your phone.
Compare it to a computer: ever bricked it because you wanted to install an new OS?
Erwin
That is true
Now, I want to change the phone, because I can't flash rom.
I think HD2 is a good.
HTC is not protecting wildfire so much.
They just want to check, how good team UNREVOKED is.
Or if they are better than similar product cracking team -> greenpois0n on apple iphone 4.2.1.
Me and my HTC:Wildfire "bee" xD trust in you UNREVOKED!
Is there any idea to downgrade?
We all march towards the SE talk forum and spam and ***** and attack as hard as we can.
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/community/support/xperiahome/xperia?view=discussions
Putting pressure on SE to unlock it.
Since there is no further support for the phone.
Question...what makes you think that would work? how would *****ing and moaning on their site make them unlock it?
Just because the smaller minority who want to mod there phones want the bootloader unlocked doesnt mean SE will. The majority of phone users dont care about it as a phones a phone in their eyes
So SE wont unlock it
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we can try!
Lame (10 chars)
useless threat
Not gonna happen...don't matter how much we *****...its totally against company policy. People have been *****in on the se blog at rikard forever now....please just let it go already.
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What's with "Since there is no further support for the phone"
Can you tell me where did you get this from?
as I know, the support is still available, but no futher OS upgrades. Big difference mate
Good luck to you.
But honestly, I'd rather you use the time to do something meaningful like volunteering work instead. -_-
so what would this acheive guys? im new to this and am wondering what we could do with our phones if they unlocked the bootloader?
curtisjones1 said:
so what would this acheive guys? im new to this and am wondering what we could do with our phones if they unlocked the bootloader?
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My most wildest dream........
A louder speaker volume.
curtisjones1 said:
so what would this acheive guys? im new to this and am wondering what we could do with our phones if they unlocked the bootloader?
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overclocking, custom roms, 16m colours.... etc.
i won't be surprised if SE team even dont know HOT TO UNLOCK bootloader =)
It wont matter to them whatever we do .
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It wont matter to them whatever we do .
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Hmmm maybe not. Try asking someone from Sweden to take a spray can, go to the Company and do a 'Give us your bootlader!' graffiti on the front door and see if they can still ignore your pleas.
Hurhurhur.
Or just collect a whole ton of money and bribe a disgruntled SE employee to give you the key
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Or just collect a whole ton of money and bribe a disgruntled SE employee to give you the key
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Or just tell them you'll never buy another sony phone again, since all new product will have the bootloader locked the same way (Think about it before you upgrade! the Sony xperia ARC will use the same bootloger lock).
So Xperia ARC is just hum .............................a no go...
End of story. (or not..., it's up to SE)
HTC here i come =)!
You are right, my next upgrade will be a HTC for sure.
htc thunderbolt looks pretty awesome
GOod try We speak out
Please no flamming ... SE may have other reasons for not releasing Bootloader
1. I am not a fan of SE and NO my next phone will NOT be SE.
2. If SE indeed uses the same/similar bootloader for smartphones, playstation and more importantly for medical and security equipment they sell it will be irresponsible of them to release the code.
3. If they do get convinced that a significant percentage of their customer base will get eroded if they don't treat the market right .. that might work!
Here you go guy's, just found this, maybe Sony should send them a Arc.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bracing-hacker-community-for-galaxy-s2-963122
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Here you go guy's, just found this, maybe Sony should send them a Arc.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bracing-hacker-community-for-galaxy-s2-963122
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I'm sorry.. this whole post screams awesome.
My next smart phone will have to be a Samsung.
Haha this is the way to go!
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I'm sorry.. this whole post screams awesome.
My next smart phone will have to be a Samsung.
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Hey Omega,
My thoughts exactly, "awsome", what a way to go just a shame Sony can,t get there heads round treating it's customers right, i looked into the Arc, if i buy one i can unlock the bootloader, but then you read on its at the exspense of throwing away your warranty, they give with one hand and take with the other, i'm just thankful i only bought a phone from them and they never had my bank details.
For sure this is the best phone out with all that tech! 1.2 dual core, 1080p recoreding, 8mp camera, dnla, super amoled plus, gyroscope etc etc. It has a very impressive tech list and what I really like is how Samsung are sending it to cyanogenmod, possibley to remove the touch wiz ui and bring it closer to a native android feel or perhaps cyanogemod have something of their of own planned espicially for this ;-)
My only concearn and thing stopping me from rushing and buying one right now, is this phone ugly? I just find the general looks to be uninspiring and under stated. It just looks like bigger version of the iPhone.
I know that's quite a big contrast in my own opinion but if a phone like this existed but with arc looks or had game controls like a play then definately I'd be rushing out to get it now. I just feel Samsung should if made this phone pretty like our x10's which I reckon is still up their in best looking android phones.
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I agree completely that the biggest flaw of the gs2 is the crappy design and even crappier touch wiz iphone wannabe interface. You can always replace the home launcher and I am positive the share brute power and features will win you over faster than it takes the eye to blink.
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I agree completely that the biggest flaw of the gs2 is the crappy design and even crappier touch wiz iphone wannabe interface. You can always replace the home launcher and I am positive the share brute power and features will win you over faster than it takes the eye to blink.
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I agree, the power in the samsung will win hands down and wait untill cyanogen mod have done there magic on it, who wants a pretty phone to look at with open bootloader and no warranty, sony are so out of touch.
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Hey Omega,
My thoughts exactly, "awsome", what a way to go just a shame Sony can,t get there heads round treating it's customers right, i looked into the Arc, if i buy one i can unlock the bootloader, but then you read on its at the exspense of throwing away your warranty, they give with one hand and take with the other, i'm just thankful i only bought a phone from them and they never had my bank details.
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Reading the article, I don't see any mention that Samsung will allow its bootloader to be unlocked whilst retaining warranty. So at the end of the day, the 2 companies might still have the same policy.
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Reading the article, I don't see any mention that Samsung will allow its bootloader to be unlocked whilst retaining warranty. So at the end of the day, the 2 companies might still have the same policy.
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not Samsung.
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not SE.
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For your last sentance you mean Samsung not SE. I wish SE had a phone that good in 2011 range.
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not SE.
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So just having the Arc rooted is going to release the full potential of that phone, don't think so buddy, just look whats happening to our x10 with the custom kernels around now.
What differance does it make who covers the warranty at least its got one unlike your Arc if you unlock the bootloader.
Lastly, as you have now got our best Dev over in the Arc forum, Jerpelea, you will miss out greatly if you do not unlock your bootloader, freexperia will live on in the Arc.
Bootloader already open......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046748
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For your last sentance you mean Samsung not SE.
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Sorry about that. Corrected.
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So just having the Arc rooted is going to release the full potential of that phone, don't think so buddy, just look whats happening to our x10 with the custom kernels around now.
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I was merely addressing your statement "I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy" which seems to imply one needs to unlock the bootloader to root the arc. And I didn't say that root will release the phone's full potential.
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Sorry about that. Corrected.
I was merely addressing your statement "I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy" which seems to imply one needs to unlock the bootloader to root the arc. And I didn't say that root will release the phone's full potential.
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What you on about dude, read again, where do i say you have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc, its obvious as you have a arc that you are a fanboy and its that good you are here in a x10 forum, Sony do not give you nothing and never will, you have a company like samsung selling phones with the bootloader already unlocked and it kicks the ass off sony, to many cutomers have been and still are being let down by sony, only time will tell if they will ever change but i can't see it.
Thanks for the discussion, good luck with your arc but i not be following you to your forum for sure, not now i know if i want to use a arc and have the bootloader unlocked i sign away my warranty. The post was merely saying Samsung are leading the way, what i do not understand is why is not sony??
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
XB_LI said:
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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Now your talking, that would be nice.
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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Yea it only comes rooted because "On The Go Solutions" has rooted it for you.
It does not come pre-rooted with warranty from Samsung. So you would rely on the warranty that On The Go Solutions provide.
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Rooted Android 2.3 - You are in control!
Having an Android device with out Root is like having a computer with no password. We upgrade our devices before they go, giving you root access, for total control over your device.........
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XB_LI said:
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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personally I don't really like Sense. I found the X10's UX, and now the Arc's UX was very nice and clean, but had shortcomings like lag and 5 homescreen limit. I don't really like Sense's theme.
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Yea it only comes rooted because "On The Go Solutions" has rooted it for you.
It does not come pre-rooted with warranty from Samsung. So you would rely on the warranty that On The Go Solutions provide.
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But your missing the simple point - It's still got warranty and say like our x10 you only have to flash with seus and its back to stock, with the arc you sign away your warranty with your imie number, its not rocket science to know which phone you would choose is it.
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personally I don't really like Sense. I found the X10's UX, and now the Arc's UX was very nice and clean, but had shortcomings like lag and 5 homescreen limit. I don't really like Sense's theme.
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Sony's design + Samsung's hardware + CM(latest version) + Sony's UI
Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
LOL pointless post.
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
lmao!
I hope it's really happening
spotmark said:
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
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spotmark said:
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
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What is this root news you speak of Spotmark?
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dlscott1111 said:
What is this root news you speak of Spotmark?
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Right here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/info-lg-g4-korea-variant-rooted-anable-t3163925. OP has confirmed that it will work on all variants. Now we just have to wait on a tool, or instructions.
I like lamp
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Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
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Man, some people are impatient. Enjoy a year old phone with subpar camera and features.
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Dennisg34 said:
Man, some people are impatient. Enjoy a year old phone with subpar camera and features.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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Nah, has nothing to do with patience and everything to do with the OEM's and Carriers. I'm tired of locked down phones that they wont allow us to use as we please. Most of us know the consequence of a botched unlock/root so that point is a wash. It's about the control, and monetization, even after full purchase. If I buy a phone outright from T-Mobile, I should be able to do anything with the phone I want, to include throwing on a ROM, most of which are superior to the bloated crap put out by the OEM and carrier. While I love the camera on the G4, and no doubt the G4's overall experience is superior, I refuse to play their game anymore.
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LOL pointless post.
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Which is more pointless, the OP or the bonehead who replied?
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Which is more pointless, the OP or the bonehead who replied?
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Come to think of it now... neither, just you
spotmark said:
Right here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/info-lg-g4-korea-variant-rooted-anable-t3163925. OP has confirmed that it will work on all variants. Now we just have to wait on a tool, or instructions.
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Good luck and enjoy, hope you guys get root quick!! :highfive:
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Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
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I came from the nexus 6. Great phone, already felt dated to me knowing 2 new variants around the corner.
Not being able to see whats on the screen in sunlight and issues with glass screen protectors had me looking.
Hopefully the huawei nexus 6 2015 will be affordable, more modern, legible in sunlight and have a better camera.
Locked stock my F500L has been great. Now with F500K rooted.. Ill get adaway and a few root apps installed any happier.
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Nah, has nothing to do with patience and everything to do with the OEM's and Carriers. I'm tired of locked down phones that they wont allow us to use as we please. Most of us know the consequence of a botched unlock/root so that point is a wash. It's about the control, and monetization, even after full purchase. If I buy a phone outright from T-Mobile, I should be able to do anything with the phone I want, to include throwing on a ROM, most of which are superior to the bloated crap put out by the OEM and carrier. While I love the camera on the G4, and no doubt the G4's overall experience is superior, I refuse to play their game anymore.
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Although I think putting up a post about how you're bailing on the G4 is silly, (much like people who put up posts about how much they hate a forum and are leaving, what are we supposed to beg you to stay? ), I get where you're coming from with taking a stand against carrier oppression. I also will write a company off quick if I feel they have wronged me or have business practices I don't like. Precisely why I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart.
Good luck with your new phone dude. I can't fault you for having principles.
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Although I think putting up a post about how you're bailing on the G4 is silly, (much like people who put up posts about how much they hate a forum and are leaving, what are we supposed to beg you to stay? ), I get where you're coming from with taking a stand against carrier oppression. I also will write a company off quick if I feel they have wronged me or have business practices I don't like. Precisely why I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart.
Good luck with your new phone dude. I can't fault you for having principles.
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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
I thought a long time about this and simply made a personal choice not to support OEM's who lock down their phones, nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it sounds like a hissy fit but whatever, I dont live vicariously through xda so I'm not
butt hurt by comments some people make. Anyway, take care and good luck!
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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
I thought a long time about this and simply made a personal choice not to support OEM's who lock down their phones, nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it sounds like a hissy fit but whatever, I dont live vicariously through xda so I'm not
butt hurt by comments some people make. Anyway, take care and good luck!
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I agree with you, I don't like how they lock down phones and try to control what you should do with it. Companies shouldn't release a phone if they want to control how you use it. Not the mention the huge amount of bugs this phone has. Makes LG seem quite pathetic.
I do like LG's other products though lol, their washing machines, microwaves, and fridges are pretty good!
painedglass said:
It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
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Wait for root, unlock whatever, THEN get the phone. Why is that so hard to figure out for some people.
Wait for NEXT nexus model, then get it.
Obviously you have a problem with waiting.
Nothing to see here, move along. Lol, just wanted to be the first one to make that joke.
So, we know virtually Nothing yet (so many jokes) but the ambition is clear: become what OnePlus used to be.
The question is: would you get one? Feel free to share your demands below.
#NeverSettle. Err, I mean #NoCompromise or something.
Bullwinkle:"Watch me pull a rabbit out of my..."
I'm ready for sure, I can't wait to see what this new Phone (1) will be like.
Oh here goes "Nothing". Really excited to see the Phone (1)
Probably not! Let's see maybe Nothing 2
I saw the article which caught my interest. With a name such as "Nothing" I was excited that it might be a vanilla AOSP phone with no preinstalled apps except F-Droid and Aurora Store.
zpunout said:
I saw the article which caught my interest. With a name such as "Nothing" I was excited that it might be a vanilla AOSP phone with no preinstalled apps except F-Droid and Aurora Store.
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Well, it certainly won't be that. They are going to use all the Google services.
Timmmmaaahh! said:
Nothing to see here, move along. Lol, just wanted to be the first one to make that joke.
So, we know virtually Nothing yet (so many jokes) but the ambition is clear: become what OnePlus used to be.
The question is: would you get one? Feel free to share your demands below.
#NeverSettle. Err, I mean #NoCompromise or something.
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Depends on price. If it's cheap like realme and xiaomi then yes it's worth price . But if it's overpriced like Samsung or apple then no it's not worth price.
zpunout said:
I saw the article which caught my interest. With a name such as "Nothing" I was excited that it might be a vanilla AOSP phone with no preinstalled apps except F-Droid and Aurora Store.
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If they are going to be as 'open' as they claim to be it should be a breeze to unlock and flash whatever you want. If they follow in the footsteps of the OnePlus One and even improve on that concept then it should be the most development friendly (mainstream) phone ever.
Timmmmaaahh! said:
If they are going to be as 'open' as they claim to be it should be a breeze to unlock and flash whatever you want. If they follow in the footsteps of the OnePlus One and even improve on that concept then it should be the most development friendly (mainstream) phone ever.
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Why be so critical of a product we don't know yet?
You just have to remember that not so long ago a large majority of smartphones were open and you could practically unlock it easily and flash what you wanted. You just had to wait for the kernel to be available.
I'm also looking forward to seeing what this new smartphone will be like. I've been on HTC for a long time, then I tested the OP7T, which disappointed me a bit and I followed the other OnePlus models which didn't really convince me.
Unlike some people, I don't swear by one brand, so I'm not really a fanboy, but I try to remain pragmatic and open to what can be offered. So I'm waiting and looking forward to see what Nothing will produce.
I hope it will be a really open smartphone so that we can integrate other external products to Nothing, according to our choices and desires.
philos64 said:
Why be so critical of a product we don't know yet?
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Not critical, having high expectations We're basically saying the same thing
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Yes, definitely interesting.
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Waiting to see the price. I have good expectations as it wants to redo the same magic as the 1+1 and on top of that they have bought essential phone assets. These were the best phones I had. Still have my ph1 with a cracked screen just to relief from time to time the itch to flash a ROM. Something my daily s10 can't do
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Waiting to see the price. I have good expectations as it wants to redo the same magic as the 1+1 and on top of that they have bought essential phone assets. These were the best phones I had. Still have my ph1 with a cracked screen just to relief from time to time the itch to flash a ROM. Something my daily s10 can't do
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I don't know much more than most people, but I think the selling price should be between 400/600€ for a wide price range.
Sib64 said:
I don't know much more than most people, but I think the selling price should be between 400/600€ for a wide price range.
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600€ that makes 800$ Canadian. Good price. The s21 FE is 700$
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I don't know much more than most people, but I think the selling price should be between 400/600€ for a wide price range.
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I think we can all agree that 300-400 won't be feasible any longer to achieve flagship specs like they did back in 2014. The price range you've mentioned would indeed hit the sweet spot. Anything upwards of that will quickly have the masses lose interest. I'd definitely shell out €500 for a new flagship killer.
Phone (1) Referral if you're interested in the waitlist!
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Phone (1) Referral if you're interested in the waitlist!
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Already did this and got the invite code with the offer price! I like this phone with a new concept rather than all other brands competing with the camera and forgot about other phone specs!
I've got nothing to say!
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Hey,
This topic doesn't concern your invite codes but if youre interresting by the Nothing Phone(1).
It's not necessary to pollute in posting everywhere your invite codes.
here => https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/info-nothing-phone-1.4421217/post-87126311
same post here => https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/nothing-phone-1-invite-link-share-thread.4461079/post-87127415
again here => https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/nothing-phone-1-invite-link-share-thread.4461079/post-87126249
It's borderline spam!