Here you go guy's, just found this, maybe Sony should send them a Arc.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bracing-hacker-community-for-galaxy-s2-963122
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Here you go guy's, just found this, maybe Sony should send them a Arc.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bracing-hacker-community-for-galaxy-s2-963122
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I'm sorry.. this whole post screams awesome.
My next smart phone will have to be a Samsung.
Haha this is the way to go!
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I'm sorry.. this whole post screams awesome.
My next smart phone will have to be a Samsung.
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Hey Omega,
My thoughts exactly, "awsome", what a way to go just a shame Sony can,t get there heads round treating it's customers right, i looked into the Arc, if i buy one i can unlock the bootloader, but then you read on its at the exspense of throwing away your warranty, they give with one hand and take with the other, i'm just thankful i only bought a phone from them and they never had my bank details.
For sure this is the best phone out with all that tech! 1.2 dual core, 1080p recoreding, 8mp camera, dnla, super amoled plus, gyroscope etc etc. It has a very impressive tech list and what I really like is how Samsung are sending it to cyanogenmod, possibley to remove the touch wiz ui and bring it closer to a native android feel or perhaps cyanogemod have something of their of own planned espicially for this ;-)
My only concearn and thing stopping me from rushing and buying one right now, is this phone ugly? I just find the general looks to be uninspiring and under stated. It just looks like bigger version of the iPhone.
I know that's quite a big contrast in my own opinion but if a phone like this existed but with arc looks or had game controls like a play then definately I'd be rushing out to get it now. I just feel Samsung should if made this phone pretty like our x10's which I reckon is still up their in best looking android phones.
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I agree completely that the biggest flaw of the gs2 is the crappy design and even crappier touch wiz iphone wannabe interface. You can always replace the home launcher and I am positive the share brute power and features will win you over faster than it takes the eye to blink.
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I agree completely that the biggest flaw of the gs2 is the crappy design and even crappier touch wiz iphone wannabe interface. You can always replace the home launcher and I am positive the share brute power and features will win you over faster than it takes the eye to blink.
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I agree, the power in the samsung will win hands down and wait untill cyanogen mod have done there magic on it, who wants a pretty phone to look at with open bootloader and no warranty, sony are so out of touch.
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Hey Omega,
My thoughts exactly, "awsome", what a way to go just a shame Sony can,t get there heads round treating it's customers right, i looked into the Arc, if i buy one i can unlock the bootloader, but then you read on its at the exspense of throwing away your warranty, they give with one hand and take with the other, i'm just thankful i only bought a phone from them and they never had my bank details.
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Reading the article, I don't see any mention that Samsung will allow its bootloader to be unlocked whilst retaining warranty. So at the end of the day, the 2 companies might still have the same policy.
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Reading the article, I don't see any mention that Samsung will allow its bootloader to be unlocked whilst retaining warranty. So at the end of the day, the 2 companies might still have the same policy.
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not Samsung.
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not SE.
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For your last sentance you mean Samsung not SE. I wish SE had a phone that good in 2011 range.
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Well, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc.
And I just read through some reviews of the Galaxy S2 but none of them mentioned that it's shipped pre-rooted. I believe the online store you mentioned above rooted the phone before selling it to its consumers; perhaps the warranty it mentions is from them, not SE.
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So just having the Arc rooted is going to release the full potential of that phone, don't think so buddy, just look whats happening to our x10 with the custom kernels around now.
What differance does it make who covers the warranty at least its got one unlike your Arc if you unlock the bootloader.
Lastly, as you have now got our best Dev over in the Arc forum, Jerpelea, you will miss out greatly if you do not unlock your bootloader, freexperia will live on in the Arc.
Bootloader already open......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046748
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For your last sentance you mean Samsung not SE.
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Sorry about that. Corrected.
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So just having the Arc rooted is going to release the full potential of that phone, don't think so buddy, just look whats happening to our x10 with the custom kernels around now.
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I was merely addressing your statement "I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy" which seems to imply one needs to unlock the bootloader to root the arc. And I didn't say that root will release the phone's full potential.
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Sorry about that. Corrected.
I was merely addressing your statement "I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy" which seems to imply one needs to unlock the bootloader to root the arc. And I didn't say that root will release the phone's full potential.
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What you on about dude, read again, where do i say you have to unlock the bootloader to root the arc, its obvious as you have a arc that you are a fanboy and its that good you are here in a x10 forum, Sony do not give you nothing and never will, you have a company like samsung selling phones with the bootloader already unlocked and it kicks the ass off sony, to many cutomers have been and still are being let down by sony, only time will tell if they will ever change but i can't see it.
Thanks for the discussion, good luck with your arc but i not be following you to your forum for sure, not now i know if i want to use a arc and have the bootloader unlocked i sign away my warranty. The post was merely saying Samsung are leading the way, what i do not understand is why is not sony??
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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Now your talking, that would be nice.
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I think with all smart phones once you root your phone you violate your warranty, with Sony and the arc you have to give your IMIE number to unlock the bootloader, this then signs away your warranty for good there is no return buddy.
EDIT... AND here's the answer it already comes rooted and with warranty.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=SAMSUNG_GALAXY_S2_ROOT
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Yea it only comes rooted because "On The Go Solutions" has rooted it for you.
It does not come pre-rooted with warranty from Samsung. So you would rely on the warranty that On The Go Solutions provide.
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Rooted Android 2.3 - You are in control!
Having an Android device with out Root is like having a computer with no password. We upgrade our devices before they go, giving you root access, for total control over your device.........
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XB_LI said:
Design of SE + Hardware of Samsung + Sense of HTC = prefect phone ever!!!
This is what i expected...tat's all
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personally I don't really like Sense. I found the X10's UX, and now the Arc's UX was very nice and clean, but had shortcomings like lag and 5 homescreen limit. I don't really like Sense's theme.
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Yea it only comes rooted because "On The Go Solutions" has rooted it for you.
It does not come pre-rooted with warranty from Samsung. So you would rely on the warranty that On The Go Solutions provide.
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But your missing the simple point - It's still got warranty and say like our x10 you only have to flash with seus and its back to stock, with the arc you sign away your warranty with your imie number, its not rocket science to know which phone you would choose is it.
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personally I don't really like Sense. I found the X10's UX, and now the Arc's UX was very nice and clean, but had shortcomings like lag and 5 homescreen limit. I don't really like Sense's theme.
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Sony's design + Samsung's hardware + CM(latest version) + Sony's UI
Related
hello
today i'm going to buy my new phone because i've sold yesterday my samsung i8910. i was going on the htc desire but i've see that xperia is already rootable. thanks to that. can you tell me if now, with the root, we will have2.1 sooner than we expect and custom roms? the hardware of the xperia is better than the desire but i was going on the desire because of the faster and more actual os. thanks
The X10 is NOT rooted yet people working on it but it is difficult.
so what's your opinion, should i go for the xperia and wait for the root or should i buy the desire?
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so what's your opinion, should i go for the xperia and wait for the root or should i buy the desire?
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its risky. the X10 might never get rooted. however.
X10 rooted = million times better than desire/nexus
X10 not rooted = POS you should avoid. unless the phone design is the only thing matters to you
I have my hopes up for the froyo petition, especially answer to that. Ofc nothing confirming but atleast it was'nt a defenitive no.. still, if you want an up to date phone X10 is not your choice as of right now. Sad thing couse its one damn fine device and im pleased with it, but ofc i'd like to see some updates soon
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serious hardware that is crippled by an outdated OS. if it would get 2.1 or if the OS gets a fix for the laggy interface, i would say it's a good buy.
you should wait and see what's up.
because if this phone is rooted, it's a different ball game.
So, what ods am i looking?i'm afraid i buy the desire and tomorrow the x10 gets rooted. Lol. I've read that paul is working on this. Should i have hope on paul?
nosidefcp said:
So, what ods am i looking?i'm afraid i buy the desire and tomorrow the x10 gets rooted. Lol. I've read that paul is working on this. Should i have hope on paul?
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You must have hope in people
think you should give yourself a timeline
if paul is not able to root and SE is not giving a better announcement before your timeline
then you give up x10
for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=
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think you should give yourself a timeline
if paul is not able to root and SE is not giving a better announcement before your timeline
then you give up x10
for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=
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sorry but is paul even working on the phone? from what i understood he doesnt even have the phone and people were thinking to buy him one.
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for us user with a X10 already we can only pray=..=[/QUOTE said:
WE DO........... we don't have anything else to do
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lol SE have alot to answer for what a let down. Mind you I think if SE announced another fantastic android handset to be launched, with better specs then x10, i fear most people would probably fall for that aswell.
people need to stop moaning . x10 does everything it needs to do and does it great. the only lag is when using timescape (and se promise to fix this in the next update as they managed to make it not lag on the x10 mini and mini pro). i dont use timescape anyway
with the htc ime keyboard my x10 is great. i will only start feeling let down when everyone else is getting 2.2 and working flash. at the moment though im having no problems at all with SEs version of 1.6
also got to consider that x10 is about £100 cheaper than a desire/nexus one
root will come
Unless the prices have dropped the last i checked x10 was more expensive then desire.
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sorry but is paul even working on the phone? from what i understood he doesnt even have the phone and people were thinking to buy him one.
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andy8271 said:
people need to stop moaning . x10 does everything it needs to do and does it great. the only lag is when using timescape (and se promise to fix this in the next update as they managed to make it not lag on the x10 mini and mini pro). i dont use timescape anyway
with the htc ime keyboard my x10 is great. i will only start feeling let down when everyone else is getting 2.2 and working flash. at the moment though im having no problems at all with SEs version of 1.6
also got to consider that x10 is about £100 cheaper than a desire/nexus one
root will come
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you really not experience any lag at all in lock screen?
and for why x10 mini is not lagging there's a thread already told us it's the different of resolution make x10 mini smoother than x10 and I'm convinced.
and man if you can get a x10 cheaper than a nexus one for £100 get me 1 please i'll more than happy to have one
i've checked paul's twitter and i've seen is last message saying "Gah, every time I think i've cracked the X10 root, it slips away! :-(
about 18 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone "
what does this means?
It means that he believed he was so close to root it but something happened and he didn't.
I guess he didn't give up.
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i've checked paul's twitter and i've seen is last message saying "Gah, every time I think i've cracked the X10 root, it slips away! :-(
about 18 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone "
what does this means?
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for me it looks like at least he's definitely trying
shouldn't we be grateful since he is not paid and doing that for us??
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
X10 not rooted = POS you should avoid. unless the phone design is the only thing matters to you
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You're ridiculous.
Honeycomb is going to be awesome!
off course
If they lock the bootloader down like they did the Droid X Motorola can keep it.
I hope to see custom rom, but affraid that there wil be a lock
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If they lock the bootloader down like they did the Droid X Motorola can keep it.
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I'm hoping that the Tegra 2 doesn't have the eFuse lock either.
I'm hoping that because Google is involved from the outset, like the Nexus phones, that this will be considered a dev device as well as a kick ass consumer product. But as a former Milestone owner, I'm going to be very wary of it nonetheless.
Moto just doesn't understand open.
It's sad what they did with the bootloader on the new line of Droid and the milestone. As my Droid one was so easy to hack it wasn't funny. But there really isn't to much I can do with my x. Although out of the box with a little adw ex my x is sweet. Although not quite like the ole incredible with miui
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i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
adub007 said:
i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
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Where'd you get to play with it? Care to elaborate a little more than its "f-ing awesome"?
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i actually got to play with the prototype 2day but i didnt stop to think about the bootloader but its still f-ing awesome
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Um... You're supposed to prove these wild statements somehow, right? I played with HTC's new tablet last week, but forgot to take a picture of it too. Or was it that they confiscated my Dinc and unrooted it after they saw I tethered it for upload the video i took of myself on it's 400 million megapixel ffc? Get the point? I like you, just not that much.
And what the hell does playing with the device have to do with the boot loader? I'm pretty sure you will need a USB cable and at least an incredible to root it, aren't you?
I def understand where your coming from but i got to test the devices cause the motorola rep for my district came to my job with it.
And i had the physical devices in my hands so in theory i would've been able to test the bootloader
No i don't have pictures of me holding the devices so all i have is my word, believe me or not i got to demo it, i guess the next time he comes with the bionic i'll make sure to sneak a picture for hard proof
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Um... You're supposed to prove these wild statements somehow, right? I played with HTC's new tablet last week, but forgot to take a picture of it too. Or was it that they confiscated my Dinc and unrooted it after they saw I tethered it for upload the video i took of myself on it's 400 million megapixel ffc? Get the point? I like you, just not that much.
And what the hell does playing with the device have to do with the boot loader? I'm pretty sure you will need a USB cable and at least an incredible to root it, aren't you?
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Did you heard that it will cost about 799$???
It's too much!!!
raptor92 said:
Did you heard that it will cost about 799$???
It's too much!!!
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Engadget is reporting that the price at Best Buy will be 699.99, which is a marked improvement over the 800 that has been making waves. That makes it much more reasonable, but I want to know about the bootloader (aka is it locked) before I buy it.
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Engadget is reporting that the price at Best Buy will be 699.99, which is a marked improvement over the 800 that has been making waves. That makes it much more reasonable, but I want to know about the bootloader (aka is it locked) before I buy it.
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Still is alot.....i could see the $450-500 range and this would def be a competitor for, well any tablet out there!
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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I'm up for that!
zillahakzor said:
I just went to Motorola's FB page. I don't think it's a bad idea to start asking them to unlock their boot loaders. Maybe if enough people tell them they want it unlocked they'll start unlocking them. I see no way it can hurt.
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Good idea.
[Motorola's FB page]
Let's do it.
Comment on any/all of their wall posts.
//Edit: you have to "Like" them to post wall comments...
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Still is alot.....i could see the $450-500 range and this would def be a competitor for, well any tablet out there!
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At that price, it would be way to cheap. We're talking about state of the art tech that completely knocks the winds out of the highest price iPad ($799-$849).
Even though I'd love to buy it for $450, I'd be worried why is was so cheap.... $699 is OK. If I had to wish a reasonable price, I'd say $599.
Damn I was just getting lots of schemes to buy one with my tax money, then you guys have to mention the bootloader!
It might be too late for the Xoom Facebook spam plan though. If its going to launch in a couple weeks they are probably already making them.
Anybody know if any Dev's have said they are definitely going to develop for it yet?
The xoom looks very cool.
but i will not buy this if moto locked the bootloader.
We all march towards the SE talk forum and spam and ***** and attack as hard as we can.
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/community/support/xperiahome/xperia?view=discussions
Putting pressure on SE to unlock it.
Since there is no further support for the phone.
Question...what makes you think that would work? how would *****ing and moaning on their site make them unlock it?
Just because the smaller minority who want to mod there phones want the bootloader unlocked doesnt mean SE will. The majority of phone users dont care about it as a phones a phone in their eyes
So SE wont unlock it
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we can try!
Lame (10 chars)
useless threat
Not gonna happen...don't matter how much we *****...its totally against company policy. People have been *****in on the se blog at rikard forever now....please just let it go already.
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What's with "Since there is no further support for the phone"
Can you tell me where did you get this from?
as I know, the support is still available, but no futher OS upgrades. Big difference mate
Good luck to you.
But honestly, I'd rather you use the time to do something meaningful like volunteering work instead. -_-
so what would this acheive guys? im new to this and am wondering what we could do with our phones if they unlocked the bootloader?
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so what would this acheive guys? im new to this and am wondering what we could do with our phones if they unlocked the bootloader?
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My most wildest dream........
A louder speaker volume.
curtisjones1 said:
so what would this acheive guys? im new to this and am wondering what we could do with our phones if they unlocked the bootloader?
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overclocking, custom roms, 16m colours.... etc.
i won't be surprised if SE team even dont know HOT TO UNLOCK bootloader =)
It wont matter to them whatever we do .
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It wont matter to them whatever we do .
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Hmmm maybe not. Try asking someone from Sweden to take a spray can, go to the Company and do a 'Give us your bootlader!' graffiti on the front door and see if they can still ignore your pleas.
Hurhurhur.
Or just collect a whole ton of money and bribe a disgruntled SE employee to give you the key
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Or just collect a whole ton of money and bribe a disgruntled SE employee to give you the key
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Or just tell them you'll never buy another sony phone again, since all new product will have the bootloader locked the same way (Think about it before you upgrade! the Sony xperia ARC will use the same bootloger lock).
So Xperia ARC is just hum .............................a no go...
End of story. (or not..., it's up to SE)
HTC here i come =)!
You are right, my next upgrade will be a HTC for sure.
htc thunderbolt looks pretty awesome
GOod try We speak out
Please no flamming ... SE may have other reasons for not releasing Bootloader
1. I am not a fan of SE and NO my next phone will NOT be SE.
2. If SE indeed uses the same/similar bootloader for smartphones, playstation and more importantly for medical and security equipment they sell it will be irresponsible of them to release the code.
3. If they do get convinced that a significant percentage of their customer base will get eroded if they don't treat the market right .. that might work!
Looking to upgrade from nexus one to either atrix or galaxy sII. They both have good hardware and it would be nice to have the bigger screen of the galaxy but it doesn't really matter to me.
I don't really trust Samsung with software upgrades and I have never had a Motorola before. I think what my decision is going to come to is which one will have the most custom rom development.
Anyone have any guesses on which one you believe will have more custom rom options?
Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
That has nothing to do with the bootloader.
I would choose the atrix,only cause of the massive battery.
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Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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I haven't been paying much attention to it, but I thought they already figured out a way to root the atrix
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Problem is that you can be rooted but if the bootloader is encrypted like many Motorola's you cannot install a custom recovery to flash custom ROM's, you just have SU access being rooted.
I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
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I would take a nook color modded to have honeycomb over both
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Right, because that is a phone.
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Right, because that is a phone.
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That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
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That's NOT the question of this topic, "Which do you beleive will have better roms?".
I agree with with donmoosavi. I too would take the Nook Color over anything Motorola or Samsung.
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Seems to me the OP is asking the question in reference to phones, since he is looking to upgrade his Nexus One to an Matrix/GS2
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looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
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looks like the bootloader is encrypted on the atrix, that is now off the list.
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Actually the bootloader isn't encrypted, but it does perform a signature verification on the files... so the end result is the same. No custom roms as it sits right now.
Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
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Neither. Motorola still has the encrypted bootloader and Samsung just lies about releasing updates.
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this. and htc puts stupid sense on the phones, only sense-less makes sense for me...
thus i wait for the nexus 2, the nexus s isn't appealing at all for me.
the atrix is sweet but no stock android, encrypted bootloader, firefox on the webtop.
there's currently just no phone that is a worthy replacement imo.
dronarg said:
Samsung and motorola are trying to prevent installation of alternative roms. So I will avoid these.
LG maybe.
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This is my thought as well. I won't get another android phone without community support. After watching Vibrant & Droid X development and their troubles I've ruled out both these manufactures regardless of specs.
I expect LG to be the most open of the upcoming android dual core models. It's just a guess though.
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
The SGS II looks like the way to go between those two. Unless you feel like waiting to see what HTC ends up releasing.
As for LG, I have no idea. Never owned an LG phone before... The Optimus' bezel sticks out too much along the touch screen, so that'll probably be a deal breaker for me. We'll see when it actually comes out. Till then, it's a waiting game for me.
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Bummer.
I thought that by now, Motorola would have embraced the community.
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The Xoom has the same oem unlock/lock features of the Nexus S but unfortunately I think that's simply because it's a pure Google experience rather than a change in Motorolas views.
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gstar_raw said:
Most definitely NOT the Atrix. XDA should let that phone die... Hit them where it actually hurts with phone sales, rather than buying it in hopes to it being cracked one day.
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It's too bad that the number if people using cooked roms are a margin of error if the phone is successful for the normal consumer. The network perception will do 20x more to hurt sales than the locked bootloader ever will.
That being said, I'd wait for HTC to announce thier next gen (pyramid et al.)
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Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpZ892Unbs&feature=channel_video_title
Sony ericsson comp, comment on you throughts on their devices on the video to enter and with xperia x8, sure they wont be expecting somany bad comments lol
watch the video.. guys says - if you have something you do not like about the device, let them know...
yeah well I can't be bothered telling them how much they fail at being in open source - I've wasted enough of my life with this **** phone.
MrHassell said:
watch the video.. guys says - if you have something you do not like about the device, let them know...
yeah well I can't be bothered telling them how much they fail at being in open source - I've wasted enough of my life with this **** phone.
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sell it if U hate it. Buy an Iphone like millions Aussie do. it's just a phone, don't expect too much from it.
kanchigo said:
sell it if U hate it. Buy an Iphone like millions Aussie do. it's just a phone, don't expect too much from it.
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Problem is by the time you realize there will not be any update, it's too late to sell it's not worth anything!
We paid a lot of money for this phone.
kanchigo said:
sell it if U hate it. Buy an Iphone like millions Aussie do. it's just a phone, don't expect too much from it.
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but as it is an "android" phone and hence open source, cant we at least expect it to be somewhat open?
kanchigo said:
sell it if U hate it. Buy an Iphone like millions Aussie do. it's just a phone, don't expect too much from it.
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the iPhone may be better supported, but it's still crap in a fancy box.
Just gave my little rant on the matter, thanks xD
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Problem is by the time you realize there will not be any update, it's too late to sell it's not worth anything!
We paid a lot of money for this phone.
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EXACTLY! AT&T started selling the x10 in August 2010, I got mine in October, and now they're not even selling it anymore (at least on their website). The x10 looks to be (unfortunately) a test-bed phone for Sony's intro to the android market, and those who've bought it are the guinea pigs. When the Xperia Play comes out, I'll just give my x10 to my wife and get that one. I have already made my views perfectly clear to SE AND AT&T on their facebook oages and through emails to them. They could care less though.
SPIDERTECH said:
EXACTLY! AT&T started selling the x10 in August 2010, I got mine in October, and now they're not even selling it anymore (at least on their website). The x10 looks to be (unfortunately) a test-bed phone for Sony's intro to the android market, and those who've bought it are the guinea pigs. When the Xperia Play comes out, I'll just give my x10 to my wife and get that one. I have already made my views perfectly clear to SE AND AT&T on their facebook oages and through emails to them. They could care less though.
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yet you're buying another one? lol
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yet you're buying another one? lol
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i'm waiting for the dev. to release a full custom rom with camera working based on froyo ,cm or gingerbread(don't really care which one) but it has to work flawless then i'll give my x10 to my wife who doesn't care that much too and i'll buy a htc or samsung galaxy 2,.tne new sony xperia family spec are not ready to fight the next amart phones comming(dual core).plus,i know other phones have their issues but i'm tired of waiting for sony to release the bootloader code or whatever is that.too bad coz the arc looks very nice. peace.
Wow, quite a lot of scathing comments...
Did a post over ther but bet. SE dont even read or care about reading what we think about them
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